Venue: Mayapur
When: February 4th, 2004
Verse: Srimad Bhagvatam 1.3.27-28

Reading from Srimad Bhagvatam Canto 1, chapter 3, text no. 27 and 28.

rasayo manavo deva
manu-putra mahaujasah
kalah sarve harer eva
saprajapatayah smritah

Translation and purport by Srila Prabhupad.
Srila Prabhupad ki jai!

All the rishis, Manus, demigods and descendants of Manu, who are especially powerful, are plenary portions or portions of the plenary portions of the Lord. This also includes the Prajapatis.

Purport:
Those who are comparatively less powerful are called vibhuti, and those who are comparatively more powerful are called avesha, incarnations.

Text no 28, please repeat:
ete chamsa-kalah pumshah
krishnas tu bhagavan svayam
indrari-vyakulam lokam
mridayanti yuge yuge

Translation and purport by Srila Prabhupad.

All of the above-mentioned incarnations are either plenary portions or portions of the plenary portions of the Lord, but Lord Shri Krishna is the original Personality of Godhead. All of them appear on planets whenever there is a disturbance created by the atheists. The Lord incarnates to protect the theists.

Purport:
In this particular stanza, Lord Shri Krishna, the Personality of Godhead, is distinguished from other incarnations. He is counted amongst the avataras (incarnations) because out of His causeless mercy, the Lord descends from His transcendental abode. Avatara means “one who descends.” All the incarnations of the Lord, including the Lord Himself, descend on the different planets of the material world as also in different species of life to fulfill particular missions. Sometimes He comes Himself, and sometimes His different plenary portions or parts of the plenary portions, or His differentiated portions directly or indirectly empowered by Him, descend on this material world to execute certain specific functions. Originally the Lord is full of all opulences, all prowess, all fame, all beauty, all knowledge and all renunciation. When they are partly manifested through the plenary portions or parts of the plenary portions, it should be noted that certain manifestations of His different powers are required for those particular functions. When in the room small electric bulbs are displayed, it does not mean that the electric powerhouse is limited by the small bulbs. The same powerhouse can supply power to operate large-scale industrial dynamos with greater volts. Similarly, the incarnations of the Lord display limited powers because so much power is needed at that particular time.

For example, Lord Parasuram and Lord Narsimha displayed unusual opulence by killing the disobedient khatriyas twenty-one times and killing the greatly powerful atheist Hiranyakasipu. Hiranyakasipu was so powerful that even the demigods in other planets would tremble simply by the unfavorable raising of his eyebrow. The demigods in the higher level of material existence many, many times excel the most well-to-do human beings, in duration of life, beauty, wealth, paraphernalia, and in all other respects. Still they were afraid of Hiranyakasipu. Thus we can simply imagine how powerful Hiranyakasipu was in this material world. But even Hiranyakasipu was cut into small pieces by the nails of Lord Narsimha. Jai!

This means that anyone materially powerful cannot stand the strength of the Lord’s nails. Similarly, Jamadagnya displayed (as Parsuram), the Lord’s power to kill all the disobedient kings powerfully situated in their respective states. The Lord’s empowered incarnation Narada and plenary incarnation Varaha, as well as indirectly empowered Lord Buddha, created faith in the mass of people. The incarnations of Rama and Dhanvantari displayed His fame, and Balarama, Mohin? and Vamana exhibited His beauty. Dattatreya, Matsya, Kumara and Kapila exhibited His transcendental knowledge. Nara and Narayan? Rishis exhibited His renunciation. So all the different incarnations of the Lord indirectly or directly manifested different features, but Lord Krishna, the primeval Lord, exhibited the complete features of Godhead, and thus it is confirmed that He is the source of all other incarnations. And the most extraordinary feature exhibited by Lord Shri Krishna was His internal energetic manifestation of His pastimes with the cowherd girls. His pastimes with the gopis are all displays of transcendental existence, bliss and knowledge, although these are manifested apparently as sex love. The specific attraction of His pastimes with the gopis should never be misunderstood. The Bhagavatam relates these transcendental pastimes in the Tenth Canto. And in order to reach the position to understand the transcendental nature of Lord Krishna‘s pastimes with the gopis, the Bhagavatam promotes the student gradually in nine other cantos.

According to Srila Jiva Gosvami‘s statement, in accordance with authoritative sources, Lord Krishna is the source of all other incarnations. It is not that Lord Krishna has any source of incarnation. All the symptoms of the Supreme Truth in full are present in the person of Lord Shri Krishna, and in the Bhagavad Gita, Lord emphatically declares that there is no truth greater than or equal to Himself. In this stanza, the word svayam is particularly mentioned to confirm that Lord Krishna has no other source than Himself. Although in other places, the incarnations are described as bhagavan because of their specific functions, nowhere are they declared to be the Supreme Personality.

In this stanza, the word svayam signifies the supremacy as the summum bonum and the purport goes on. The summum bonum Krishna is one without a second. He Himself has expanded Himself in various parts, portions and particles as svayam-rupa, svayam-prakash, tad-ekatma, prabhava, vaibhava, vilasa, avatara, avesha, and jivas, all provided with innumerable energies just suitable to the respective persons and personalities. Learned scholars in transcendental subjects have carefully analyzed the summum bonum Krishna to have sixty-four principal attributes. All the expansions or categories of the Lord possess only some percentages of these attributes. But Shri Krishna is the possessor of the attributes cent percent. And His personal expansions such as svayam-prakash, tad-ekatma up to the categories of the avataras who are all vishnu-tattva, possess up to ninety-three percent of these transcendental attributes.

Lord Shiva, who is neither avatara nor avesha nor in between them, possesses almost eighty-four percent of the attributes. But the jivas, or the individual living beings in different statuses of life, possess up to the limit of seventy-eight percent of the attributes. In the conditioned state of material existence, the living being possesses these attributes in very small quantity, varying in terms of the pious life of the living being. The most perfect of living beings is Brahma, the supreme administrator of one universe. He possesses seventy-eight percent of the attributes in full. All other demigods have the same attributes in less quantity, whereas human beings possess the attributes in very minute quantity.

The standard of perfection for a human being is to develop the attributes up to seventy-eight percent in full. The living being can never possess attributes like Shiva, Vishnu or Lord Krishna. A living being can become godly by developing the seventy-eight-percent transcendental attributes in fullness, but he can never become a God like Shiva, Vishnu or Krishna. He can become a Brahma in due course. The godly living beings who are all residents of the planets in the spiritual sky are eternal associates of God in different spiritual planets called Hari-dhama and Mahesha-dhama. The abode of Lord Krishna above all spiritual planets is called Krishnaloka or Goloka Vrindavan, and the perfected living being, by developing seventy-eight percent of the above attributes in fullness, can enter the planet of Krishnaloka after leaving the present material body.

Haribol! Haribol!

Finally it’s a good news for us (laughs) so

ete chamsa-kalah pumshah
krishnas tu bhagavan svayam
indrari-vyakulam lokam
mridayanti yuge yuge

All of the above-mentioned incarnations are either plenary portions or portions of the plenary portions of the Lord, but Lord Shri Krishna is the original Personality of Godhead. All of them appear on planets whenever there is a disturbance created by the atheists. The Lord incarnates to protect the theists. This is most frequently quoted verse by Srila Prabhuapad. One of the missions of Prabhupad was to establish Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he never mentions Krishna in the purport, not only Krishna. No! Krishna, and Supreme Personality of Godhead, Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is never tired, 100s and 1000s of times and amongst other sources to backup that statement that Krishna is Supreme Personality of Godhead, this one is that authoritative statement.

“Krishnas tu bhagavan svayam”

What kind of Krishna? Bhagvan svayam others may be Bhagvan, that’s fine.

“Ete chamsa-kalah,” ete, all these 22 mentioned, so far 2 are not mentioned, there are some 24, only 22 are mentioned and they are referred to here as “ete” “all these,” “ca,” what is this “chamsa-kalah,” amsa and kalah, the ca should be in between but it is not. They are “amsa,” the portions or kalah, the portions of plenary portions and ca pumsah, whose portions are portions of plenary portion, they are “pumash,” Krishna parmesh…, Krishna bhagvata…, these are the words used “sa” means “Krishna sa” of Krishna and what of Krishna, “Krsnas tu bhagvan svayam.” Krishna is svayam bhagvan, fine, you could say Narada Bhagvan, that’s fine, Varaha Bhagvan, Narsimha Bhagvan but there is only one Svayam Bhagvan that is in person, Prabhupad translates in person, svayam means in person, means no one else is Svayam Bhagvan, others are Bhagvan amsa kalah, yes, but Krishna tu but, tu means but stop, ok!

“Ete chamsa-kalah pumshah krishnas tu” but Krishna is Svayam Bhagvan.

“saksad-dharitvena samasta – satrair”

Fine kintu kintu, soon break is applied. Stop! Stop! There is something else you have to know

“kintu prabhor yah priya evatasya”

Then two together goes, goes together Sri Krsnadasa Kvairaj Goswami Maharaj, his desire is of establishing the fact that Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabu is Supreme Personality of Godhead before he would like to talk right about His Lilas, Madhya lilas, Adi, Madhya, Antya, he wants to establish the fact that Caitanya Mahaprabu is Supreme Personality of Godhead and he undertakes that task in the very beginning only 2nd Chapter of Adi lila and how does he accomplish this task? First he establishes that Krishna is Supreme Personality of Godhead then he says that Krishna appeared as Caitanya Mahaprabhu. So Krishna, Supreme Personality of Godhead, then Krishna who appeared as Caitanya Mahaprabhu is Supreme Personality of Godhead, whole chapter, he only gives so many from this puran, that puran, this chapter of Upanishad, here there, Brahma Samhita, so many quotations there and of course he has quoted this verse which is today’s subject matter “ete chamsa-kalah pumshah.”

He starts like that, he quoted the verse nicely, explained I liked it and I am sure you will like it. He says Suta Goswami speaker of this verse and who are the listener? The sages, 88,000 of them, 88,000 sages headed by Shaunaka Muni are sitting in Naimisharanya and are listening this statement “ete chamsa-kalah pumshah.” oh! We want to hear, understand the avatar, katha, shobha. Oh! Please tell us, Suta Goswami that was the 5th question asked by Shaunaka Muni and this answer 3rd chapter of 3rd canto is answer to the 5th question asked by Shaunaka Muni and of course towards the end of 3rd Chapter is the answer to 6th question of Shaunaka Muni.

So he has described shobha, katha, the pastimes, the activities which are auspicious of all the incarnations, of course, he has mentioned these are only few, we read that yesterday, these are just few, Prabhupad pointed out, oh, this is just the limited list, so whatever 22 mentioned and then “ete,” this so Suta Goswami has quoted, that verse and then Krsnadasa Kaviraj writes, “avatar kari samanya lakshan tarmadhye Krishna chandrer karila ganam”. He listed these different avatars and just in the middle he mentioned “krsna chandrer ganam,” he counted Krishna as amongst that list, he put that on the list, Oh! What did I do? “tabe,” at that time, Suta Goswami, “mane paiya bada bhaya.”

Prabhupad translates that as this made Suta Goswami greatly apprehensive, Oh! What did I do? He had some bhaya abhaya, bhaya-abhaya, you know? He had little bhaya, he was apprehensive. Oh! Did I say something or make some correction, make some statement here, I have just included Krishna in that big list of incarnations, “vidheya vastu agyat anuvadan hai gyat.” Oh! I have mentioned the subject but where is the predicant, “anuvadan vidheya”. Predicant of a sentence is what is unknown to the reader where as the subject is what is known to him. When Suta Goswami uttered the list with little little attributes of this incarnations. He has talked of the subject matter but predicant has not been stated, then Krsnadasa Kaviraj says, “aei vipra param pandit,” “aei vipra param pandit,” for example, we may say this vipra is great learned, in this sentence vipra is the subject and the predicant is his erudition, do you get my pronunciation, his panditya, pandit he is that is mentioned but panditya, his scholarship not in this, there are both of course.

So vipra is subject and his panditaya, his erudition is predicant. Man being a vipra is known but his erudition is unknown therefore person is identified first and his erudition later. First make a mention, then talk more his qualificatins, his special position, attributes, “avatar sab hoila gyat,” “kar avatar aei vastu agayat”. He mentioned all the avatars, “ete amsa kalah” but “kar avatar,” whose avatar, they are whose incarnations, they are? This is agyat, this is unknown. Thus far, till yesterday, we did not know or the listener, they also did not know. In Naimasharanya, they heard the avatar but whose avatar they are? This was not known.

In the same way Lord Krishna was first counted amongst incarnations, specific knowledge about him was still unknown, this establishes Lord Krishna is the original Personality of Godhead, the original Personality of Godhead, therefore is necessarily Krishna and he has few more things, this is 2nd chapter of Chaitanya Caritamrita, only Personality of Godhead the source of all other divinities, he is eligible to be designated “svayam bhagvan” or the primeval Lord, he concludes and one more statement is there, when one candle, when from one candle many others are lit, I consider that one original, one that was used to light other candles. Thus original, that is the source of all divinities and thet is “svayam bhagavn” Sri Krishna and that Sri Krishna appeared as Chaitanya Mahaprabhu so Krishna is Supreme Personality of Godhead, then Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is Supreme Personality of Godhead. Who appeared here in this dham and not far from here, only one mile away from here, Lord gave a purport to this verse, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu sat on the altar and Srivas Pandit one day said, “call everyone, call everyone,” and his associates go running, gathering people and Lord displayed his opulence. He was trying to hide, conceal the fact of His Bhagvata or Godhood but that was becoming difficult, knowledge was leaking out, they were getting some indications.

He would say, No! No! He would plug his ears, shut up! Don’t say that! All his attempts were failing, ok, ok, got everyone and one day, one day, all the devotees were there and one by one, or simultaneously, infact they were all seeing, realizing that Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is Supreme Personality of Godhead. In Chaitanya Bhagvat He says, “Advaitacharya, ask for a boon? Advaitacharya ask for a boon?” No! no! My desire has already been fulfilled, ok. Who is next? “Murari Gupta, Murari Gupta come come. Look at me and as he was looking at Lord he wasnt Guaranga, he was Shri Ram, there with greenish complexion and he was in his veer ashan holding bow and arrow and as he kept looking, there was Laxman, there was Sita and there were chiefs of different monkey groups offering prayers to Shri Rama and soon he looked at himself, Murari Gupta, and he was a monkey himself. Oh! What is going on here? He fainted and Chaitnaya Mahaprabhu, who was Ram now, “aae…….….rise! rise!” And then as he rose, I am Shri Ram and you are Hanuman, look Laxman is here and Sita and wonderful description is there.

This was no more Navadvipa or Mayapur, this was Ayodhya and then another one and then another one, then another one, according to each devotee, personal relationship with the Lord, someone devotee of Ram, someone devotee of Varaha, someone devotee of Narsimha, someone of whoever, that is what Chaitanaya Mahaprabhu exhibited and as that particular devotee witnessing that particular display and the pastime, not only he was seeing the Lord but the whole world was different, world all together different, different times all together and this went on as you know, this is Mahaprakash Lila of Chaitanaya Mahaprabhu, how many hours? 21 good hours, just went on and on and on and Lord was dealing with each one of them, there was not only dharshan but there was bhashan, there was a dialogue within that devotee and the Lord and as they were both talking, Lord Ram and Murari Gupta and another incarnation and another devotee, they were not even bothered that others were there, they were not even thinking, each one was simultaneously talking with Sri Krishna Caitnaya Mahaprabhu, so that particular lila of Sri Guaranga Mahaprabhu explains it all “ete chamsa-kalah pumshah”

Also before the Lord Krishna was about to appear there were some developments in the Goloka, in the whole spritual sky, this is Jiva Goswami, I have to stop now. (laughs) I am trembling! One minute, two minutes, so what was happening, Jiva Gosawmi explains these different incarnations were rushing to Goloka, they were all merging with Krishna, Ram coming, Varaha coming, Narsimha coming, all coming and entering the Supreme Personality of Sri Krishna and finally Krishna appeared on the planet. But those devotees of respective inacarnations, Varaha, Narsimha, etc, they were thinking, Oh! that our Lord, that one you see, that’s our Lord, they were all feeling like that,thinking like this thats Varaha, thats Narsimha. So that another little connection how svayam bhagvan and within him are all amsa and kalah are included. So let us understand Krishna is Supreme Personality of Godhead, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is Supreme Personality of Godhead and tell the whole world, as we have come to this festival, lets sit down, understand, study, talk, argue Krsnadasa Kaviraj‘s some arguments, logic should be used to tell the whole world that Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is Supreme Personality of Godhead and he is appearing Pancha Bhagavan, Pancha Tattva in few days, so we welcome all the devotees, so sit back, relax, understand, realize that Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is Supreme Personality of Godhead.

Nitai Guar Premanande, Hari Haribol! Haribol!
Followed by applause.

Venue: Mayapur 2006

Hare Krishna!!! Everybody say Hare Krishna.Thank You. Thank you also for joining us once again. As we continue to narrate the pastimes of Guaranga, pastimes in connection with his visit to Vrindavan.

Yesterday! Was that yesterday?? Ok. Yes, it was yesterday. We did talk of how soon after taking sanayasa, first place he wanted to go to was Vrindavan.

“Where is Vrindavan??? Where is Vrindavan??? And as he inquired, he was misdirected. Even Supreme Lord could be misdirected, this was the job of those cowherd boys, you remember them. Haribol!!! They were all chanting ‘Hari Bol.’ Mahaprabhu was pleased with them, so they misdirected, misguided and ofcourse, our Lord Nityananda Prabhu, he had a role to play, gave the dictation; you tell Him if he asks, you tell him which way to Vrindavan. Tell Him where to go, just follow the path to the banks of Ganga and following that path as we heard Chaitanya Mahaprabhu ended up in Shantipur Dham. Shantipur Dham ki jay! That is where we also went. We were directed there today, not misdirected; we were directed to go to Shantipur. After spending some days in Shantipur, ofcourse Lord does not waste his time, He was using every minute, every second of his time.

Always, where ever He is, He does that and He did the samething in Shantipur. How did he spend his time? Chanting, dancing and feasting, meeting devotees and meeting Sachi Mata and ofcourse I am yours, this body is mine. You just order me, ofcourse; I cannot ask you to come back to Mayapur. “Dear son, could you please stay at Jaggannath Puri?” So it was settled that way and Caitnaya Mahaprabhu proceeded to Jaggannath Puri and on the way, as we were talking at Shantipur today, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, He did stop at many places and one of those places was Remuna. As the name, we should be remembering today, if not everyday or all the times. Today is the day, Madhavendra Puri’s disappearance day and he disappeared at Remuna at Shirchor Gopinath temple.

As Lord spent one night, what did He do? He spent all night talking about Madhavendra Puri, the glories of Madhavendra Puri. Chaitanya spent all night talking about Madhavendra puri to the assemble devotees. Madhavendra Puri was Lord’s grand spiritual master also. Ishwar puri the spiritual master and his spiritual master Madhavendra puri so he was his grand spiritual master, then Lord proceeded to Puri and well, we were talking how, where else Chaitanya Mahyaprabhu could be or could have stayed, this was the best location, best destination for Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.

Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and Lord Jaggannath is the match. They go well together, we spent yesterday sometime describing how, our Guar Govind Maharaj talks, these were the two Lords, two crying Lords.Two lords were crying in Jaggannath Puri. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu crying. He is in the mood of Radharani and he’s crying for Krishna and other Lord, Lord Jaggannath, crying for his devotees and specially Radharani. One is looking for Krishna, and the other is looking for Radharani and they meet, the great meeting took place in Jaggannath Puri, they spent time together, 24 years. Out of which, ofcourse, 6 years Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu spent traveling and finally 18 years, He was there with Jaggannath. Also taking part in ‘Rathyatra’ festivals and playing the role of Radharani. Jaggannath Krishna in the cart and Radharani right in the front, in the form of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.

When Lord arrived for first time to Jaggannath Puri. Jag….Jag….. he couldn’t even utter the full name Jaggannath. Jag…. Jag…. Is all that he could say or utter. His voice was chocked up and next minute He was rolling on the ground right there in the Darshan mandap of Lord Jaggannath. And Lord taking part in Jaggannath Rath Yatra, yesterday also we spoke about this, that way, He brings Krishna Jaggannath to Vrindavan that is Gundicha temple. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu stayed in Vrindavan. Gundicha is replica of Vrindavan. All those gardens around are non different from the forests of Vrindavan. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu thus proclaimed and he was introducing all surroundings and they were simply talking about Radha and Krishna for seven days and seven night. That is how much time Jaggannath spent in Gundicha temple, and there another Rath Yatra back to the main temple called Ulta Rath. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu as they were proceeding towards Gundicha, His mood was,

“Mora Mann Vrindavan”

All the devotees were pulling the cart of Jaggannath. Trying to bring him to Vrindavan in the mood of Braj vasis.

Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, his mood, my mind, my mind is Vrindavan, ‘Mora Mann is Vrindavan’; Mora Mann, ‘My Mind is Vrindavan’. “O Krishna, please enter my mind, reside in my mind, reside in my heart, please make my heart your residence, O Lord.”

And ofcourse by doing all this, as He is playing a role of a devotee,‘Bhaktavatar’ as he is known. He is teaching by example, it’s for all of us to take note of, watch him and understand Him, His mood, try to cultivate that kind of consciousness. So Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was there in Jaggannath Puri for some time. Then he does take his tour of South India. Travels extensively throughout South India and returns to Jaggannath Puri, we will not be talking details of that.

We could only take one drop of the ocean of pastimes of Guaranga. We are not very big, right!!! Even one drop good enough for us to get drowned. Kind of size that we understand, what we are one, 10,000th and that is also tips of the hair. I have a hair, tip of hair, you see, break that into 10,000, then take one, that’s our size. So that size we are, just one drop of the ocean of pastimes is just enough for us to get drowned. So He returned to Jaggannath Puri. Great to read and understand how he traveled, how he was spreading and chanting the holy name of the Lord everywhere. His purpose that time was to, he was looking for his brother Viswaroopa that was given as a reason. “I must go find my brother”. That was kind of a private, personal reason but than,

“Dharmasanthapanarthaya sambhavami yuge yuge” (4.8)

His purpose is also, different purposes to establish the chanting of the holy name as yuga dharma for this age of Kali. So he did that, and finally in Pandharpur, finally He comes to Pandhapur, Pandhapur dham ki jai! Which is one of the very dear dhams for us. He found out that Viswaroop, he was there in Pandhapur and that is where he departed from, he had taken Sanayasa. So he found out that his brother was no more and so then he comes back to Jaggannath Puri, then he had desire to go to Vrindavan.

King Pratap Rudra, the great devotee of the Lord. He found out Chaitanya Mahaprabhu contemplating on going to Vrindavan. King Pratap Rudra made a special request to Sarvabhom Bhatthacharya and Ramanand Rai, “please, please make sure that Lord Chaitanya doesn’t leave Jaggannath Puri” and not only King Pratap Rudra but no one wanted Guaranga, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu to leave Jaggannath Puri. So as now Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, he was appealing to the devotees, Ramanand Rai and Swaroop Damodhar, “please make arrangements for me to go to Vrindavan.” But devotees where, when he proposed for the first time, the devotees said, “Oh! This is not the proper time, this is rainy season, not good time for traveling.” Ok, rainy season was over. “So could you now make arrangement for me to go?” “No, no! It is too cold in Vrindavan now”. Then again he wanted to go.

“No, no! It’s time for Ratha Yatra. Soon the devotees would be coming from Bengal, looking for you also, besides taking part in Jaggannath Puri. Please stay. Please stay on”.
And like that, two years, they came up with this excuse and that reason, “No not now”. This time, that time. And two years passed that way. But finally Lord said, “No, I must go! Please make arrangements. Oh! Please let me go, please permit me to go, please happily give me permission to go. Then I’ll be happy on my way; on the way to Vrindavan.” So finally Mahaprabhu was ready to go and whole Jaggannath Puri was also ready to go with him, all devotees were there. As he started leaving Jaggannath Puri, all devotees were right behind him like an ocean. There is also an ocean, the Bay of Bengal, like that the ocean of devotee following Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. He forbade them. He had to do so many things to keep them behind and it was very very difficult for those devotees to see Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu leaving right in front of them. And some devotees traveled with him up to Cuttack, some more devotee’s upto some more points, and finally Lord practically by himself, Ok, we mentioned.

He wanted to go to Vrindavan but his idea was, “I’ll visit the devotees in Bengal first.” Especially he was thinking, “I should visit mother Ganga and mother Sachi.” He was thinking of these two mothers, I will go to Bengal and visit my mother Sachi Mata and Ganga Mata and also meet devotees there. And then via Bengal through Bengal then, I’ll head towards Vrindavan.” So with that idea, Mahaprabhu comes to Bengal side. One of the first places Mahaprabhu comes is Vidyanagar, you know Vidyanagar. Those who went on ‘Parikrama’, one day padayatra, parikrama stops at Vidyanagar, so just before Vidyanagar, there is a residence of Vidyavachaspati, the brother of Sarvabhom Bhattacharya and Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was staying there. And as news leaked, “Mahaprabhu is back.” “Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is here. “Guaranga! Guaranga! Guaranga is here”

The wave, the news was reaching; the news was reaching and the wave of people also coming back towards Vidyavachaspati’s home. There’s a description in Chaitanya Bhagavat, the kind of crowds came out and they were leaving for Vidyavachaspati home. Normally there are some paths for bullock carts or footpaths. But only few people could walk on those paths. When people came, they saw their path is blocked by the trees and bushes because there is only a little path. And they don’t want to go one after the other. They all wanted to go simultaneously like a wave. So it is described that people started cutting the trees and bushes and clearing the whole forest. And then they were walking on the trees, the bushes and crawling and proceeding towards Vidyavachaspati’s home. People just clearing the path, another wave came from the eastern side and then they have to stop.

Ganga was in the middle, there were few boats, but who wants to stand in a queue, ten people at a time and one boat coming back and another one going. It is also described that Vidyavachaspati personally arranged some additional boats for devotees. But they were not sufficient, they were not waiting for the boats to go and return, they were just jumping into the river, diving and trying to cross. There was a time, Ganga was filled with people, you could only see the heads of the people moving , not water, heads of people everywhere moving …moving…they did not care what would be the result, whether they could cross or whether would get drowned. All that they were thinking, “We want to see ‘Guaranga’.” “Where is Chaitanya Mahaprabhu? Where is He? Where is He? This is all they are thinking, just thinking, there spirit is just moving and the bodies are just following. Finally as people arrived, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu had realized that there is too much stamped could be too much to handle this crowd. So he had gone to kulingram. Devotees were disappointed and Vidyavachaspati was kind enough to bring all of them to bring to kulingram which is present in Navadvipa. And all the devotees met Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.

Chaitanya Mahaprabhu ki jay!

They met and they saw and they were just drinking the beauty of the personality of Guaranga. Full dandavats and ofcourse big kirtans. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu just sits and he gives darshan to everybody. He begins dancing and because he is very tall, everyone could take his ‘Darshan’. Bengalis are usually shorter people and Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is seven feet tall. Easy for darshan right! And to make it yet easier what would Guaranga do? He would jump, the golden, the real gold in this world everyone is mad after gold and Guaranga…. ‘Go’ for Guaranga is real gold. So they had a great time and they were following Chaitanya Mahaprabhu everywhere, wherever he would go, they would go with him. One devotee Narsingh Bramhachari, Narsinghanand Narsinghanand Bramhachari, he found out that Mahaprabhu is planning to go to Vrindavan ofcourse he is going to be walking. “Oh! What could I do? What could I do? What service could I render?” And he had great idea of fixing the road. Starting from Navadvipa, kulingram, all the way to Vrindavan, he wanted to fix the road. But how did he do that? He did that in the mind, easy Job! No, that was his devotion. Lord is ‘Bhavgrahi Janardan’. Even your ‘bhava’ counts, you get credit for that.

So he sat down he started constructing the road and not with the stones it was with flowers, stemless translation is no stem, stemless. The stems were cut and the flowers being spread on the road, a bed of roses. There were bakuls, special bakul flower, they are very rare, but he had so many of them on either side, he had bakul flowers at intervals, there were lakes. If you need to go into the lake, you need a ghat or steps. They were made up of jewels and then he was filling up those lakes with the waters. The lake is there the water is there, what else is required??? Lotuses have to be there, lotuses were there. There were bushes and there were beautiful trees on the banks of those lakes. And he had birds’ chirping and singing. He was trying to do the best, road for Chaitanya Mahaprabhu to walk on building and building and building, and making that bridge, I mean, the road, he went up to Kanhai Natshala.

It is the place in Bengal-Bihar border, up to there he built the road and from there onwards he had difficulty continuing the construction of the road, He had lots of flowers and more lakes, the idea, more trees, more birds everything was waiting, big stalk he had but he was not able to. He was struggling to go forward with the road construction but not possible. He was not even able to put one step forward and as he contemplated, he came to conclusion that this time Chaitanya Mahaprabhu will not go to Vrindavan, He will only go up to Kanhai Natshala. Upto that Kanhai Natshala he had built the road and he said only upto there, He will go and he will not go forward, he told the devotees, “You will see! You will see!” he was fully convinced; you will see it was like a prediction and he was convinced.

So Chaitanya Mahaprabhu from kulingram, he goes to Ramkeli and he met Rupa Goswami and Sanatan, the Dabir Khash and Sakar Malik, the two brothers, they were ministers. First time ever they were meeting, great meeting! These two brothers were holding a straw in between their teeth, “Dante Trina Dhari” and full obeisances at the feet of the Lord, full humility, folded hands and trembling voice and faltering of the voices, and they are speaking, Lord did not want to even hear so much. We are worst than Jagai and Madhai and we are this and we are that. It’s too much, the humility. He said leave it. No, I can’t hear. Enough…enough. Stop! Stop! And Chaitanya Mahaprabhu said, “You are my eternal associates.”

Rupa Manjiri and Vilas Manjiri, they are meeting in Ramkeli for first time, so there was a nice dialogue, everything is wonderful. Sanatan Goswami says one thing and all those devotees were following the Lord. Ramkeli is in Bangladesh. The present day Bangladesh, that time ofcourse, there was no Bangladesh, that’s new creation, new country. Sanatan Goswami said this is not the way to go to Vrindavan, going with hundreads and thousands of devotees. No, don’t do this. Sanatan Goswami is giving a kind of good advice. Srila Prabhupad writes in the purport there that in those days, one of the thing mentioned that people use to take big tours to Vrindavan on some kind of commercial basis and charge people pandas giving tour and take money, what they would think of you?, you are no better as one thing that comes up and it’s a disturbance. So Chaitanya Mahaprabhu now even after he had not taken it seriously and then he was traveling, he was on the way to Vrindavan and he was in Kanai Natsala spending night there and during the night, he was thinking what did Sanatan Goswami say?. No, No, dont go with hundreds and thousands of devotees to Vrindavan, then yes, that’s it. Mahaprabu decided I will not go to Vrindavan.

Narsinghananda Brahmacahri ki jai… Remember he had said he will not go. Mahaprabhu said I will return to Jagganath Puri. I will return to Nilachal, ofcourse yet he has not visited Sachimata, so Chaitanya Mahaprabu once again, he comes to Shantipur. Remember he had come after taking sanayasa and again he is in Shantipur and he meets Sachimata in Shantipur. First time also that meeting took place in Shantipur, second time also that meeting Sachimata in Shantipur. Spending time in Shantipur festival chanting, dancing, feasting and Lord proceeds to Jagannath Puri. Again every one wants to go with him and Lord had hard time keeping everyone behind in Bengal, only two devotees went with him, one is Balabhadra Bhattacharya and other is Damodhar Pandit, two devotees followed Mahaprabhu back to Jagannath Puri. Jagannath Puri dham ki jai! and he is in Jagannath Puri now.

He hadn’t forgotten his Vrindavan business, he wants to go to Vrindavan again, he calls Ramananda Rai and Swarupa Damodhar, “Please make arrangement for me to go to Vrindavan, but I dont want anybody, nobody will go with me to Vrindavan. I want to go by myself and then the whole dialogue.” No! No! No! (laughs) atleast take two and finally it was settled. Ok. Just one but make sure that devotee is peaceful in his mind, besides few other qualifications. Mahaprabhu said he has to be peaceful. You don’t know last time that Kaliya Krishna Das right, he was there but then he got into trouble, mind agitated. So make sure servant that goes with me, he has to be peaceful.

Who goes with Mahaprabhu? If someone wants to go with Mahaprabhu, then that is one of the requirements he has to be what? (Devotees saying) peaceful, not peaceful, then you will stay behind, you lag behind. So finally and then Oh! That Bhatacharya, Balabhadra Batacharaya, he is the one, he travelled with you from Bengal to Jagannath Puri, we are proposing his name, yes, yes, he could go and it was settled. So when Lord proposed that was kind of evening time and he said, “Tonight before sunrise, I will be out of here. Dont spread the news of my departure and I will go.”

So Lord, in the middle of the night, got up and took that one devotee with him and started his journey for Vrindavan. Next morning as devotees got up. Who are they thinking of? As soon as they got who are they thinking of, first who are they thinking?

“Guaranga” “Guaranga” “Guaranga”

First thing they think is of “Guaranga,” so morning, specially morning should be reserved for remembering the Lord and his devotees. Mornings are very very special, the best time of the day should be reserved for the best person best Lord and his devotees, so Jagannath Puri devotees were doing that. So Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is incognito, incognito, he is not going on the highways, he is taking some side ways, he is going through the forest, this is how he ends up in Jharkhand, forests of Jharkhand. Now just few years ago in India, there is a new state like our Maharashtra or U.P or Bengal, Rajasthan, Gujarat, one more state has been added Jharkhand, that’s part of Bihar, right, that’s part of Bihar, north India, that’s part of Bihar and so Bihar divided into two, Bihar state and Jharkhand, just to have some idea where is Jharkhand. So now He is going through Jharkhand forest, is He carrying gun with him? He has no gun, bombs, swords, stones (laughs). Nothing, He is empty handed and He is going through the forest and that forest, 500 years, that forest was full of tigers and lions and elephants and like that, it’s a real forest, forest like forest, thick forest, and Mahaprabhu is traveling through and ofcourse singing all the time.

“Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Ram Hare Ram, Ram Ram Hare (kirtan).

So we have little more time, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu has not today, he will just reach outskirts of Vrindavan, Mathura, going through the forest quickly he took ofcourse many many days. He was in the forest many months, he was in the forest and just Him and
Balabhadra Bhattacharya. Balabhadra Bhattacharya had hard time.(laughs) And he was traveling (makes sound of tiger), Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, he was walking and dancing and his feet touched sleeping tiger.

Tiger is on the ground, Mahaprabhu standing next and tiger looked and Chaitanya Mahaprabhu says Hare Krishna (laughter) and tiger says (devotees saying), Hare Krishna. Get up, get up, he makes the tiger to get up and there is more chanting and dancing and that the tiger is singing, just like human beings, like you say Hare Krishna, tiger is saying Hare Krishna, not acting like a tiger any more. And another time, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, he was on the lake taking his bath and now was chanting his gayatri. So he was murmuring his gayatri mantra and then comes the elephants, big herd, so many elephants comes to drink water and as they are drinking water, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu splashes some water and as water touches their bodies, they say Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, elephants (devotees saying). Hare Krishna Hare Krishna to you and elephants are not only chanting but their four legs are up in the air and they are dancing and singing. I wish some one had taken their video, you would have purchased one copy, right?

But as it is described in Chaitanya Caritamrita if you could hear or read and visualize in your mind, three dimensional, that’s the scriptures are like windows, through that you see the pastimes of Mahaprabhu, Krishna, Guaranga.. Then another time, he is walking through the forest and he has tigers and the deers they are walking side by side, is that ever possible? We can’t even imagine the deer, even if they see a human being, they run away, what to speak of tiger. They are walking next to each other, they are walking next to each other, not one, so many deers, so many tigers walking next to each other and next scene was, this was too much!

Well it’s difficult for us to understand this is all doing of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. But he is not giving credit to himself or he is not thinking, he is not thinking I am playing double role here, let me fix the tiger’s consciousness and the deers consciousness and this and that, let me revolutionize, fix them, and then I will be there again to witness, to watch how they act, how they behave, how they demonstrate, how they perform. He doesn’t have to fix them first and then put them on the stage and see their performance, it’s kind of simultaneously happening. As if Lord has nothing, nothing to do with it, how is this happening? What is this? This is going against nature, against the nature. The deer and the tiger next to each other and not next to each other but Mahaprabhu saw as he looked behind to the next scene. The deer and tiger, they were embracing each other like what, one tiger, one deer standup, who is the tiger? (Laughter) He is the deer (devotee who acted tiger and deer embracing each other) and Haribol and applause.

Embracing was the first act, next was they were kissing each other. Haribol! (Laughter). Even difficult to get human beings to (laughter). So when Mahaprabhu saw that he was reminded of Vrindavan, there is a verse here, now we are not giving scriptures in the front but its right there. He is reciting the verse which is from 10th canto of Bhagvatam describing the spirit of Vrindavan, where animals don’t act like ferocious animals although they have animal body, they have no enmity, no anger, no hatred they are friendly even animals are friendly with each other. So although Mahaprabhu was far from Vrindavan he was just there in the Jharkhand forest but their he experienced Vrindavan, this is Vrindavan for him, that was Vrindavan, that experience was Vrindavan experience, that spirit was Vrindavan spirit.

So as he was eager to go to Vrindavan, kind of Vrindavan was running towards him. Vrindavan was coming also in his direction, he was experiencing Vrindavan on the way to Vrindavan and again ofcourse as he was out of thick forest of Jharkhand, more villages and towns on the way to Varanasi and his chanting and dancing continues. His assistant is arranging some prasadam, cooking spinach from forest vegetables and simple meal, sometimes some brahmans are inviting. It is described that some low class people also forest people, uncivilized, so then his servant has to cook which he is doing, the people are coming to chant and dance with him. its amazing there is no, there is no advertisement, no banner, no poster, no one is doing campaign for Mahaprabhu’s travel, “Tonight he is in this village and next day in that town” but somehow people are finding out and coming in a big number. Where ever he goes, that was happening in south India, some more people are coming as he is going through, this Jharkhand in North India, on the way to Vrindavan.

Ofcourse Lord is the heart and it is easy for Him just to make announcement in the heart of each person quickly and they come, they all found out, He is coming, He is here, so they are coming in big numbers and he is getting them to chant and dance. Inspiring, inspiring them to chant and dance (saying loudly).

Haribol! Haribol! Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is lifting all of them and let them go. Haribol! Haribol!

Kind of Mahaprabhu does that lifting everybody. Haribol! And then, those people go return to their towns, villages and then preach to everybody “jare dako tare kaho” those people meet other people and they meet other people like that. Chanting and dancing holy name was spreading everywhere in Mahaprabhu’s time. Then he passed through Prayag and as heading towards Vrindavan, Mathura, Mathura dham ki jai!

Tomorrow will be, we will deal with some of the chapters of Chaitanya Caritamrita according to my estimation or my liking, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s another word Vraj Mandal Parikrama of Vrindavan. Starting with his bath, holy dip at Vishram Ghat, going for darshan of Keshavdev at janmasthan, birth place of Krishna. Then going from forest to forest and how the whole vraj, Mahaprabhu is kind of dealing, reciprocating, whole vraj mandal, wholw vraj mandal is also dealing with Mahaprabhu. Char-achar, there is something non living in vraj, char-achar, everything is welcoming Chaitanaya Mahaprabhu. And it’s their experience, they are all thinking, although Guarsundar has come to Vrindavan but they are all thinking Oh! Shyamsundar is here, although Guarsundar is there but they are thinking Oh! Shyamsundar is . strong, he goes to Hare Krishnahere, Shyamsundar is here and cows and trees, the birds, male parrot, female parrot talking, peacocks dancing and Mahaprabhu’s ecstasy, his emotions, its a whole flood. So we will be dealing with that tomorrow.

Verse: Srimad Bhagavatam 10.16.39-40, 10.16.44-45.

These Nagpatnis are praying:-

“Namas tubhyam bhagavate
purushaya mahatmane
bhutavasaya bhutaya
paraya paramatmane

namah krishnnaya ramaya
vasudeva-sutaya cha
pradyumnayaniruddhaya
satvatam pataye namah”

Like that they keep praying beautiful meaningful prayers, appropriate, befitting prayers they offer, I just said few, they are many more, again homework for you and they said towards the end of those prayers “apradhah,” certainly are husband has committed big big offense but you are “bharta,” you are the master, creator, you are purusa, we are your prakriti, my dear Lord, please tolerate and forgive this “mudha” (laughs), addressing the husband, he is mudha, you know he is mudha, that’s what he is , he has no brain, he is first class fool and he has committed this aparadha, but “anugrahi,” “anugrahnisva” please benedict him and he is about to lose his life, my dear Lord but being the wives, we are only begging Oh! Lord “sadhu sochanam,” have pity, pity upon us, our only request is:

“patih pranah pradiyatam.”

Please keep our husband alive, he is about to lose his prana, keep him alive.

“vidhehi kinkarinam”

We are your kinkari, we are your servants, please order us, we are ready to render service and please make us free from all anxieties.

“sarvato bhayat muchyate”

And Viswanath Chakrawarti Thakur comments that as Krishna heard these prayers, Krishna jumped, He was on the top of the hill, He came down, He was in front of Kaliya and the Nagapatnis. That means He released that Kaliya.

“pratilabdhendriya-pranah”

gave his life back or gave him strength, “shanakair harim krichrat,”and gradually he was getting his strength back and “dinah,” poor Kaliya was struggling, doing proper breathing, so gradually, gradually, he attained normal state and he has his hands folded(laughs). I don’t know what kind of hands he had? But this is:

“kritanjalih,” “kritanjalih”

Hands folded and he is also offering prayers, begging for pardon and Kaliya uvacha, Kaliya speaks yes, yes, my dear Lord, we are, you know, this is what we are, serpent species, we are always envious, we are always angry, this is our svabhava, I wish to become free from this anger but this kind of moha, this kind of conditioning is not very katham, how to get rid of this illusion and bondage and this kind of conditioning, anger, envy? We don’t know but:

“bhavam he karnanam tatra sarvagyo jagdishwara”

But you are cause of all causes, if you wish to make me free from all this lower natures, Lord, you are free
“anugraham nigrahamva,” either favour me, love me or leave me. “Anugraham nigrahamva,” anugraha, you may favour me, nigraha punish me, “manyase tat vidhi” whatever, whatever, whatever you do, “yada ecchasi tatha kuru” you do as you wish, so with this words he is fully surrendered unto the Lord:

“iti aakarnaya vacha”

Sukhdev uvacha. Sukhadev Goswami says by hearing these words He had heard the Nagapatnis, the wives of Kaliya, the Lord has just now heard Kaliya also.

Lord said: “natra stheyam tvaya sarpa samudram yahi ma chiram”

You don’t stay here, go to the ocean, “go nrabhir bhujyatam nadi.”

“I want water of this Yamuna river for my cows and my friends Braja vasis. That’s brief. Lord’s response was very brief but very clear, firm and Sukhdev Goswami is making few comments here, anyone who listens to this pastime of Krishna subduing Kaliya, one benefit, are you scared of snakes? Some of you. You will not be, fear of snakes will not brother you any more. Haribol! You may have to read this pastimes few more times, (laughter) so that’s one, other benediction is any one who takes bath in that lake, it is no more poisonous lake, you don’t have to worry and he does fasting and takes bath, where Krishna says “mad-krida” Lord’s krida had been performed and remembers this pastime:

“smarann sarva-papaih pramuchyate”

He becomes free from all the reactions of the sin, remembering this pastime, fasting, taking bath in that Kaliya, great Kaliya lake and Krishna said to Kaliya, yes, I know you had left that “ramnika dvipa” because you were afraid of Garuda but now your head has been marked with my lotus feet, so wherever you go you are safe, Garud will not bother you, the reason, its another very mysterious history why Kaliya chose to be in that particular lake? And why he had come to Vrindavan side? So Krishna knew all this, now you don’t have to worry. There is a trade mark on your head, my lotus feet and you are safe.

“evam mukto bhagavata
krishnenadbhuta-karmana
tam pujayam asa muda
naga-patnyas cha sadaram”

Then the whole family got together, headed by Kaliya, the wives and the children and they begin worshipping the Lord, “jai jagadish hare.” (laughter)

“pujayitva jagan-natha
prasadya garuda-dhvajam”

They are praying Jaganatha, puja and they are giving gifts.

“divyambara-sran-manibhih”

Different garments, jewels, specially snakes have jewels on their hoods, they are supposed to be very very valuable, hard to get there, we can’t reach, we can’t slap a snake and snatch them. Its not that easy but so their “abhushanayi,” so many other ornaments, they are offering to Krishna and finally the family did parikrama around Krishna and they left for the ocean as they were instructed.

“tadaiva samrita-jala
yamuna nirvisha abhavat”

At that moment, immediately as Krishna had also touched, done some swimming there, Yamuna jala became no more poison, became nectarian.

“anugrahad bhagavatah
krida-manusha-rupinah”

And this was benediction of Bhagvataha, of Supreme Personality of Godhead who was playing role of some kind of manushah, human like form but He is original Supreme Personality of Godhead and with that Sukhadev Goswami ends that chapter.

Nitai Guar Premanande Hari Hari bol!

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Krishna lifted Govardhan hill for seven days and seven nights, this is very very pleasing pastime to the residents of Vrindavan because this is one time, that they had opportunity to be with Krishna day and night, for seven days and seven nights. This is very rare. Normally, only for few hours, you get to be with Krishna and Krishna gets up and He is with his parents, Nanda, Yashoda and Rohini, only for few hours. He gets up, bathing, dressing and breakfast and He goes and then He is with the cowherd boys and the cows for few hours, then He kind of takes off. He goes to Radhakund to be with the Gopis.

Is Radhakund here? Probably you noticed. No, Radhakund can’t be in the middle, that’s not Radhakund, there should be Mansi Ganga in the middle. Radhakund and Shyamkund are like eyes of the peacock, Govardhan hill is in the shape of a peacock and this Shyamkund and Radhakund are eyes of the peacock and there is also tongue, Goswamis (continuous sounds of peacocks in the background, Maharaj says ok, bas-bas). (laughter) Too many peacocks.

They did not want to use, the Goswamis residing on the banks of Radhakund, Shyamkund they didn’t want to use the water of these kunds for washing their bodies or specially they had to go, they would go to take care of their bodies in the morning, so they didn’t want to carry that, so they had idea of digging well near Shyamkund and Radhakund and as they started digging, there was bleeding and then they realized that was the tongue of Giriraj, so the tongue and then eyes and as we start parikrama from Radhakund, Shyamkund, you begin to wonder where is Giriraj, you didn’t se him because the neck of the peacock, you know how it is goes than comes up again, it goes down and comes up again, so for miles you don’t see Giriraj, so he is underneath. Then after Kusum Sarovar, you begin to see Govardhan hill, goes higher and higher, the highest point is 88 feet tall and then there is the tail of Giriraj and there is one Baba there which is one of the cowherd boys, a friend of Krishna called Lotta Baba, so those who do parikrama, so those who do parikrama, this Lotta Baba takes note and then informs Krishna, ok, he also was here, give him some benefits, benedictions.

So Govardhan also received curse from one Muni Pulasya, Pulasya Muni if I am remembering correctly, Pulasya Muni. So that’s another story, so because of that curse he is sinking and sinking, so you better hurry up before he sinks, you should go take darshan and do parikrama before he goes all the away underneath into the ground. It is said of course it will take some more time that the Govardhan hill is keeping check on the progress of age of Kali. So when Giriraj will be fully into the ground, fully sunk, then the kaliyuga which seems like after nine and a half thousand years’ period then Kali would really be in full blown action, already its bad, right!

Then its going to be worse, of course, next 10,000 yrs is the golden period, the holy name of the Lord will spread in every town, every village during this period and devotees will go and do parikrama of Giriraj during these next 9-10,000 yrs, ok. One point I was about to mention, I got distracted was that this lifting Govardhan hill pastime is very pleasing to residents because each party gets only some time to be with Krishna. So I was mentioning Nanda Maharaj, Yashoda in the morning, then cowherd boys, midday reserved for Gopis, some more time for the cowherd boys and the cows need also Krishna’s attention, time, and association. Then they return and again Lord is with the parents up until he goes to the bed. Everyone goes to bed and Krishna also kind of goes to bed but as everyone is fast sleep, he gets up and goes into the forest playing a flute and inviting Gopis to that particular forest to come and again the midnight is allocated for Gopis, vanvihar and jalavihar, rasakrida, these are the pastimes, every night these pastimes, then again Krishna has to rush to return to, Radharani also returns, Gopis also return, so like that, only few hours each party gets, however each parties preference is to be with Krishna 24 hours if that was possible but it doesn’t become possible because everyone wants Krishna , so this was very special time this Govardhan time, lifting of Govardhan.

All the residents, all the cowherd boys, cowherd girls, Gopis, elderly parents, Nanda, Yashoda, cows and peacocks and other animals, monkeys, everyone is there with Krishna 24 hours a day and they are all, as Krishna has lifted Govardhan hill, as the description, He lifted that with his left hand you could see left hand and not he hasn’t used the whole hand, he hasn’t used both hands, he is only using the left hand, which is suppose to be weaker than the right “baye hat ka khel,” we say “baye hat ka khel,” if you want to do something easily, then you just use your left hand but Krishna is not even using the whole hand.

Govardhan hill is not resting on the palm like that or he is not holding it on all the fingers. He has chosen the weakest of all the five fingers and that is this little finger and if you take close look at that scene, you will see that the Govardhan is only resting on the top of the nail, not even resting fully on the finger, so that is power and strength of the Lord, just on the top of the nail, not little finger, he kept holding and of course, some cowherd boys were doubting, you know, may be He is tired and we better help him out (laughter), so they held their sticks, they are also, who knows, just in case (laughter), Govardhan could be Samadhi for all of us right here, we will take (laughter). He was the one and nothing to worry and they were all just drinking the beauty of His lotus moon like face and again, although they had 7 days and 7 nights, they were not tired, they were not bored, they were even ready for another 7 days or even 21 days if possible.

But then unfortunately that time had come, the rains had stopped and so there are many pastimes, some pastimes while Krishna had kept Govardhan hill in lifted position. One brief thing that comes to my mind is Krishna was looking at Radharani while holding, at one point, he was looking at Radharani and Balaram caught him red handed (laughter) and Krishna felt embarrassed. Oh! My brother. So they are all not just standing, of course looking and enjoying the beauty but also, they were all singing and dancing and talking about the Lord. So they had a great time for 7 days and 7 nights. I hope you also had a great time tonight. Haribol. Followed by applause.

So then you could only imagine, how much greater, may be hundred thousand times greater, better time those residents of Vrindavan had with Krishna. But then again we also we also have right, we could also make a claim and Krishna is inviting us to come and join, what are you doing there in Los Angeles? Come join Me. He is awaiting our arrival and there in no, our spot is vacant infact, no one else could take that place. So Krishna is more anxious to have us than we are anxious to go there or have him. So He is doing His best. So this ISKCON, he has founded using Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupad, making him nimittamataram and then Krishna is the one who is behind this Bhagvat festival and He is behind this Govardhan lila. Pastimes that we were experiencing. So he is making all the time endevour, to get us, win us over. So I am confident Krishna has dragged us little more closer, dragged us closer to Him.

So let us take those steps, doesn’t matter may be baby steps, but soon we will keep walking and running and as we take one step, Krishna takes how many steps? Ya, he is ready for 100 steps and His steps are bigger, if he wishes, he could be there, in two steps he had covered the entire universe, big steps he could take. So like that we have few more evenings with Krishna, with His pastimes means being with Him. So on behalf of Krishna we welcome you, invite you to continue to be with us and all of us together will be with Krishna.

“Shyam Radhe Radhe, Ghansyam Radhe Radhe
Shyam Radhe Radhe, Ghansyam Radhe Radhe
Shyam Radhe Radhe, Ghansyam Radhe Radhe

Nikunja me virajo Ghansyam Radhe Radhe
Nikunja me virajo Ghansyam Radhe Radhe”

At appropriate time, Gopis make that appeal to Radha Shyamsundar, you may now enter Nikunja, these are special forest gardens, where only Radha and Shyamsundar enter others stay outside, this is an appeal “Nikunja me virajo Ghansyam Radhe Radhe”

Oh! Ghansyam. Oh! Radharani, you may now enter Nikunjas, Nikunja…

“Sri Sri Radha Syamsundar ki jai”

“jayatam suratau pangor mama manda-mater gati
Mat-sarvasva-padambhojau radha-madana-mohanau”

Guadiya vaishnavas worship 3 deities of Vrindavan, the first they approach is Radha Madan Mohan, Madan Mohan, Madan is cupid, is a demigod, incharge of lust, and he goes around his puspaban, the arrow which also has flowers, keeps shooting right into the hearts, specially of those who are the young ones, young at heart and excites them. He arouses lusty feelings in them. This, Madan is very very beautiful, charming and specially empowered to attack the hearts with his arrows. The devotees, they take shelter of Madan Mohan , the Lord who attracts this Madan, Madan who attracts others, people of this world, young men and women get attracted to each other because of the influence of the Madan, then the Mohan, he does, he attracts this Madan to him. He makes Madan powerless.

“kandarpa koti kamniya vesesha shobham govindam adi purusam tamham bhajami”

We offer our most humble obeisance’s at the lotus feet of Govinda because he attracts this Madan.

“Kandarpa koti kamniya vesesha shobham”

This Krishna, Madan Mohan is so attractive that he attracts this Madan, not just one Madan, Kandarapa same thing, Kamdev Kamdev that is another name, so kandarpa koti koti, millions of cupids are attracted by the beauty of the Personality of Godhead. Hence, we take shelter of that Lord Krishna, known as Madan Mohan and once we are, we have a shelter of Madan Mohan means we have no more influence of this Madan. Then we approach another deity in Vrindavan that is Radha Govind, once we are free from this influence of kama, the lust, than we could settle in our devotional service, the spiritual life that becomes possible with the help of

Radha Govind ki jai …

“divyad-vrndaranya-kalpa-drumadhah
Srimad-ratnagara-simhasana-sthau
Sri-sri-radha-srila-govinda-devau
Presthalibhih sevyamanam smarami”

Smarami I remember, I meditate upon that Radha Govind, vrndaranya, Vrinda-aranya, that is vrindavan, aranya– forest, Vrinda-aranya, in Vrindavan, there are “kalpa-drumadhah” there are desire tree, kalpavrukshas, kalpa-drumadhah, underneath, under those kalpavruksha, or one of those desire trees, “simhasana-sthau” there is a throne, bedecked with jewels. “Sri-sri-radha-srila-govinda-devau” and seated on that throne are Radha and Govind.

“Sri-sri-radha-srila-govinda-devau
Presthalibhih sevyamanau smarami”

Presthalibhih, that Radha Govind is surrounded by very dear – Presth, alibhih–Gopis, specially lots of times, there are only astasakhis there. “Presthalibhih sevyamanau” and they are very very busy, absorbed these sakhis, gopis, manjaries also are serving this divine couple in so many varieties of ways, each one has a role to play, service to render.

“Presthalibhih sevyamanam smarami”

This is my meditation or I would like to meditate upon Radha Govind.

Srimaan-rasa-rasarambhi-vamsivata-tatasthitah
karsan-venur-svanair-gopi-gopinath-sriye-sunah

Then finally guadiya vaishnvas destination is Radha Gopinath, Nath, the master of the Gopis, Gopinath.

srimaan-rasa-rasarambhi

That lord at the beginning of the rasa, rasa-rasarambhi, before even the beginning of rasa, “vamsivat,” He climbs up a tree called vamsivat and he plays his flute and he sends invitation to all the Gopis to come and join him there in that particular forest and this is around 10.30 pm, He does this, while whole Vraja is entirely fast asleep, Krishna wakes up, Radha Gopinath wakes up, and that is His time for his most confidential devotees and associates called Gopis, headed by Srimati Radhika. So several hours, there is no disturbance of any sort, no other obligations, He just wholly and solely of His Gopies and specially of Radharani and they are ofcourse His, they are also kind of Him, they are Him, nondifferent, they are His potency, He is shaktiman and they are his shakti, He is their source, He is a powerhouse and they are the power, He is the potent and they are the potencies called Alahdini shaktis, pleasure potencies of the Lord, so Lord is just playing with His own energies, He is expanding, Radharani is Krishna, Krishna expands and he becomes Radharani, Radharani further expands and she becomes Gopis. So it is just, He is playing with Himself, with His extensions, expansions, His energies, He has right to do so.

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Venue: Pandharpur
Verse: Srimad Bhagavatam 4.8.47

srivatsankam ghana-syamam
purusam vana-malinam
sankha-cakra-gada-padmair
abhivyakta-caturbhujam

Word for word:
srivatsankam — the mark of Srivatsa on the chest of the Lord; ghana-syamam — deeply bluish; purusam— the Supreme Person; vana-malinam — with a garland of flowers; sankha — conch shell; cakra — wheel; gada — club; padmair — lotus flower; abhivyakta — manifested; catuh-bhujam — four handed.

Translation by Srila Prabhupad:
Lord is further described as having the mark of Srivatsa, or the sitting place of the goddess of fortune, and His bodily hue is deep bluish. Lord is a person, He wears the garland of flowers, and He is eternally manifest with four hands, which hold beginning from the lower left hand, a conch shell, wheel, club and lotus flower.

Purport by Srila Prabhupad:
Here in this verse, word purusam is very significant. The Lord is never female. He is always male (purusa). Therefore the impersonalist who imagines the Lord’s form as that of a woman is mistaken. The Lord appears in female form if necessary, but His perpetual form is purusa because He is originally male. The feminine feature of the Lord is displayed by goddess of fortune—Laksmi, Radharani, Sita, etc. All these goddesses of fortune are servitors of the Lord; they are not the Supreme, as falsely imagined by the impersonalist. Lord Krishna in His Narayana feature is always four handed. On the battlefield of Kurukshetra, when Arjuna wanted to see His universal form, He showed this feature of four-handed Narayana. Some devotees are of the opinion that Krishna is an incarnation of Narayana, but the Bhagavata School says that Narayana is a manifestation of Krishna.

(The sloka and translation is repeated)

This section of Bhagvatam or some of the verses of this chapter here, chapter entitled “Druva Maharaj leaves home”, what we get to hear is a description of the beauty or beautiful form of the Lord. As we go through the chapters of Bhagvatam, and some other scriptures also, some places, some sections are describing the beauty of the Lord and there are lots of them from every now and then and yet there are other parts describing qualities of Lord Krishna. If you just try to visualize or think of those sections, you could think of several describing qualities of the Lord, Him as merciful and etc. 64 qualities. In Bhakti Rasamrita Sindhu, Nectar of Devotion , Rupa Goswami while describing qualities of Krishna, he will take so many verses from Bhagvatam and scriptures also and while talking of the form of Lord, he will again quote the verses from Bhagvatam and other Vedic literature sources and there will be yet another section describing the pastimes of the Lord, lots of pastimes, everywhere and then there are some other chapters, sections glorifying the holy name of the Lord, Ajamil, story of Ajamil, and then there are other sections, descriptions of Vaikuntha as a whole chapter, describing abode of the Lord.

“Sri-Radhika-Madhava-yorapar-Madhurya lila guna-rupa nam-nam”

So all these name, form, quality, beauty is described throughout Bhagvatam. I think in Nectar of Instruction Upadesamrita Srila Rupa Goswami talks how, if you want to talk of a person in a complete way, then you have to talk of his name. Ok you said the name, some of the information or knowledge about that person, you have to know qualities of that person, then you get to know him more, you have to know how he looks like and you get to know him more, his activities, you know him more, his address, where does he stay? His abode? His residence? Then you know him more. So to know the Lord, Srila Prabhupad says, yes, everyone says “God is Great.” One of the quality of the Lord. “God is great.” But how is He great, that no one knows or they know very little about the description how God is great. Ok. Lord is beautiful but then, where are the descriptions of that beauty of the Lord, here you go, we are here. So Bhagvatam, Bhagvat also means different things related with bhagvan makes Bhagvat, things in relationship with bhagvan is Bhagvatam. So what is bhagvan?

“Isvarasha samagrasa viryasha yassha sriyaha jyana vairagyashaiva”

These 6 opulence of the Lord, this is what makes him Bhagvan, so those opulence’s again are described in Bhagvatam, hence this scripture is Bhagavat. It’s a complete scripture. If you go by this definition or understanding and if you want to understand someone, you have to understand his name, quality, activities, his place, name, address, telephone number, and then you know him fully. So if we apply this criteria to other scriptures, again in some other Purans, you don’t find name, form, qualities, activities, abode or very little, just drop here, drop there, yet there are other scriptures, the Bible and Quaran, there is hardly any description of the form of the Lord, although they will make a statement. Yes, man is made an image of God or Quaran will say, yes, in the seventh heaven, there is a throne and God is sitting there or on his right hand side, there is Jesus or there is a Mohammad sitting. They will talk of the hand of the Lord, right hand, his seat but then they will not describe how Lord looks like? Or Quaran also mentions, 99 names of Allah, as we have Vishnushastranam, 1000 names, Quaran describes, mentions 99 names and gives descriptions also of each name. What does it mean? So some names are mentioned, some introductory things, just giving hints, some indication only. But Bhagvatam is the only scripture, in existence, on the planet in the universe that describes off course we add, Guadiya Vaishavas add to this list, we add Caitanya Caritamrita to this list, Brahad Bhagvatam to this list, and like that we have, Guadiya Vaishanavas have bigger body of knowledge, because so many other says, “Oh! God is indescribable.” Did I say it right? He can’t be described. Ok. Then shut up. Can’t be described, this is what they want to do. Yes, can’t be described. So he is so wonderful, sometimes I have no words to describe what I just went through or the beautiful scene. Oh! I can’t describe, it is indescribable.

Krsna das Kaviraj would also say this how much I could describe not that I can’t describe but this is my limit. Caitanya Mahaprabhu is here in Vrindavan and what he is going through, his emotions, his ecstasies, its just beyond me. What I could manage I have described, more could be described by Anantsesa only. I leave this upto Lord Anantsesa, he has 1000 mouths and he is much more capable of describing and I have written just few chapters but crores of volumes could be written just to cover the pastimes of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu touring Vrindavan, going through Vrindavan. So others don’t know the Lord or they have made it easy, unfortunately describing Lord without the form. Yes! Yes! He exists. Yes he exists but he has no form, He is formless. Yes! Yes! God exists but he doesn’t see. What does that mean? Srila Prabhupad describes that in Isopanisad that means you are trying to call God as blind. Yes, yes He exists but cannot walk. What does that mean? He is lame, is that a description of Lord? Who would care to worship, pray to God who is helpless, can’t walk, can’t see, yes, you could see but God can’t see. What does that mean? You are more than God, yes, something that I can do but God can’t, I can walk, forget it. God can’t manage walking, I can talk but He is dumb fellow. Prabhupad argues like that, is that God? Understanding of God. This is a big disease, cancer spread all over the world, throughout the human race. This is called Impersonalism, Mayavad.

“Namaste sarasvate deve gaura-vani-pracarine , nirvisesa-sunyavadi –pascatya-desa-tarine”

People suffering, influenced and suffering because of the impersonalism, and another “ism” called voidism, nirvisesvad and sunyavad, the Buddha, “Mayavadam asat shastram” ,mayavad is a false scripture and I am the one. “Maeva kalau Brahman rupena” at one place. Shankar, Shiva is talking to his good wife “ I am the one appear in the age of Kali as Sankaracharya and I propagate this impersonal business, I take role of a Brahman, strong preacher Brahman, I go allover India preaching impersonalsim. But this is “Mayavadam asat shastram”, what kind of sastra is this? Asat, false and which has covered Buddhism, they are related. “One says God is, everything is zero” and shankaracharya had to say no, no, He is not zero, He is one. Then other acharyas had to appear and futher corrections saying He is not zero, He is not one, He is two. But then that was also too much, the two identities where so much stressed and which kind of made the distance bigger between the two, there close affinity and close contact and eternal relationship wasn’t so much emphasized and that had to be done as Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu with his philosophy of “achintyabhedabhed” tattva.

He took kind of 2000 years, from the time Buddha appeared 2500 years ago and Caitanya Mahaprabhu appeared 500 years ago. So, 2000 years to go from zero to one, to two, to simultaneously one and different, gradually and gradually He walks and then Srila Prabhupad has taken this philosophy of “personalism” all over the world, just recently, infact last week the Times of India wrote editorial and gave a hint why ISKCON is successful? The countries and place and towns and villages were even the bollywood, India’s Hollywood is called bollywood has not reached, places where bollywood has not reached, ISKCON has reached, small places and towns on the planet. So this huge success of ISKCON is because they are emphasizing this “personalism” in this world of impersonalism, editor noted, this world is full of impersonal, not only spiritually speaking but otherwise also dealings are very impersonal, like machines, no heart to heart, friendly dealings. There are no personal dealings, only business dealings, even if it sounds personal but its all motivated. So ISKCON is becoming successful because the world is dominated by impersonal philosophy impersonal dealings and what world needs is personal touch. ISKCON is propagating this Krishna is a person that’s what, impersonalism is because they make God impersonal,

“Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare”

So “Srivatsankam” on the chest of the Lord. What is the sign on the chest of the Lord?” “Srivatsa.” What does it look like? It’s a line on the left side, left chest of the Lord, left side of the chest of the Lord. What’s the colour of that line? Golden and there is hair, hair on the chest of the Lord and there is a line, not just a mark but hair, fine hair and that is Laxmi, seat of Laxmi on the chest of the Lord.

“Srivatsankam ghanashyamam”

You all understand Ghanashyam, Srila Prabhupad gave that name to Ghanashyam. Bhakti Tirtha Maharaj was named Ghanashyam, kind of colour, deep black, deep bluish but weather that matched his karmi name, I don’t know, but matched the colour, John, so he should have been Jaggannath or Jagatpati, instead Prabhupad gave the name Ghanshyam. Gopis look at the clouds in the sky in the monsoon season and they are reminded of Krishna or even peacocks in Vrindavan, in Vrindavan clouds gathering up above in the sky, they begin dancing, they have a good time. Ghanshyamam, deep bluish, and anything that is deep and vast, is kind of bluish, ocean is deep, big. Right! So its bluish in colour. So is the sky, so there is some Krishna connection, Krishna’s colour, Krishna’s colour is reflected. Even the mountains, big, tall range of the mountains, looks what colour? Again bluish. “Ghansyamam purusham,” this word is significant, Prabhupad is pointing out, purusha also means He is person and purusha means enjoyer, He is male, because the womens liberation movement in the west, they are wondering.

Oh! God should be why why only male? Half of the population of humans are females, why are you saying God is male? But if you want to enjoy, anyone who wants to enjoy, he is a male, so these ladies are not ladies, they are not females, they want to be male, they take the role of male and want to exploit some other male, males, enjoyer, purusha means enjoyer, male means enjoyer. So male thinks female is a female, female thinks male is a female, they are trying to enjoy each other. Infact both of them are females, why are you fighting? What for? Understand? Who you are? You are female in relationship with the Lord that’s your position just surrender, you are meant for Lords enjoyment, you are to be enjoyed, not that your are enjoyer, this is when the spiritual life begins with this proper understanding, otherwise no one really understands who is who? Who is male? Who in female? So bhram, confusion, caught in this dual nature of male and female, black-white, easterner-westerner, all these kinds of….. “Vanmalinam,” he wears the garland of flowers from the forest, they just pick up fresh flowers of different colour and string them together and just offer, they don’t do much work on these flowers, yesterday we got some flowers from Solapur, there were so many colours in those flowers but those flowers were not natural colours, that imposed or painted from outside, the colours were put on those flowers, so vanmali doesn’t mean just take flowers as they are offer, cowherd boys also do this cowherd girls of course are even more expert in making garlands for Krishna.

“vanmalinam sankha-cakra-gada-padmair
abhivyakta-caturbhujam”

And he manifests four hands, he has four hands, each holding one symbol, one holding sankha, because which hand is holding which symbol makes lot of difference, he has different names. So Srila Prabhuapad describing here, maybe this is the normal, basic. He has four hands, two left hands, two right hands. So sankha, cakra, gada, padma, so you start from beginning, from lower left hand that is holding conch shell, next one is holding wheel. Left, upper left, then upper right hand is holding club and lower right hand is holding lotus flower, lets look at, is he holding?

Radha Pandharinath ki jai……………

Although one time Krishna tried showing four handed form, that did not satisfy the Gopis and Radharani, so Krishna had to appear in this form, so take a close look at this form.

Haribol………….

No one appointed him but because of his concern for Krishna and Balarama and other residents of Gokul also, he had been doing this research and traveling and traveling, now, he just now returned from his travels and he is proposing, now he is saying, we have to leave this place.

“utthatavyam etha asmabir gokulsha hiteshibihi”

We care for all residents of Gokul and for every one’s benefit, especially for the benefit of Krishna and Balarama, we have to leave this place, is the proposal of Upanada.

“Maha Utpat Balana nashhetav”

It seems that the target of these attacks are balakas, the children, specially, Krishna and Balarama and he is reminding everyone, “Do you not remember,” all the assembled members of this august gathering that Balagnya, when Krishna was only six days old, Putana appeared, luckily you know, Krishna managed killing. Then Krishna was three months old, Shaktasur, just kicked that cart and cart went flying and broken into pieces. The attempt was there, trying to kill this child, then He was hundred days or three months old, Trnavarta came took the baby into the sky, of course the baby did not mind, He was enjoying seeing the whole Braja, first opportunity to fly in the sky free. Shilayam, and Krishna became heavier, he is briefly describing each past time, and on a big rock, he was killed as Krishna became heavier and heavier and then before us is this ghastly disaster seen, you could see the trees uprooted and,

“sureshvare paritrataha sureshvare tad api achuta rakshanam”

Achuta is, Sureshvar is, Lord is, Narayan is protecting our children but how long, one of these days, who knows? Who knows? So far, so good. Children have been protected but we can’t take risk. Then he says, “yaa shamo anyatra sanugaha,” we have to go, take everything, take everything with us, all the residents, all the cows, the basic needs with us and we have to leave this place, oh! Where do we go? What are you talking about? Do you have some concrete proposal? Yes, yes, and Upananda says,

“vanam vrindavanam nama pashavayam nav kananam”

I had been traveling and traveling throughout Braja Mandal and I have found a place, a place called Vrindavan. Let’s go to Vrindavan, Let’s go, are you ready? (Maharaja asks the audience and they respond by saying Haribol) What about the katha? (Laughter) We have taken sankalpa, we are in Vrindavan also, as we listen to katha of Krishna in Vrindavan, we are in Vrindavan, we are with Krishna, Krishna’s pastimes, just watch Krishna, take note of Krishna, try to become part of those pastimes, witness those pastimes, through the eyes of the Bhagvatam, Bhagvatam has two pages, right! So, see through one page with this eye and another page through the other eye and there is a window, hole is made into the Brahmand and you could see things beyond this universe through the eyes of Bhagvatam Shastra Caksusha,

“Gopgopigavam sevayam punyaadri tran Virudham”

And that Vrindavan is sevayam, very appropriate, suitable place for cows, always the concern is cows, for the cows very good place, very good place for us also and specially he is mentioning, therse is also punyaadri, there is one hill, mountain called Govardhan, there is lots of trina, grass, creepers and lakes, everything is there, beautiful place I have come across and we should go there right away. He made this presentation proposal for the residents of Vrindavan and he says we will go there,

“Bhavatam yadi rochate”

If you like we will go, if you, if you want, if you are ready, you think its a good place, I have described to you, if u like, we will go and what do you think was the response of the residents? Yes. Jaya, jaya. They said sadhu sadhu, say sadhu sadhu, (devotees reply sadhu sadhu), speaking Sanskrit now, forgot English? (laughs). Ya that’s what they said, sadhu sadhu iti wadinaha, as they heard, sadhu sadhu, Oh! Wonderful, wonderful and yes, we are for Vrindavan. Lets go to Vrindavan and they got ready to go to Vrindavan.
Vrindavan

Lecture By: H.H Lokanath Swami
Srimad Bhagavatam 3.29.03

virago yena puruso
bhagavan sarvato bhavet
acaksva jiva-lokasya
vividha mama samsritih

Synonyms:
viragah — detached; yena — by which; puruso — a person; bhagavan — my dear Lord; sarvatah? — completely; bhavet — may become; acaksva — please describe; jiva-lokasya — for the people in general; vividhah? — manifold; mama — for myself; samsritih— repetition of birth and death.

Translation:
Devahuti continued: My dear Lord, please also describe in detail, both for me and for people in general, the continual process of birth and death, for by hearing of such calamities we may become detached from the activities of this material world.

Purport:
In this verse, the word samsritih is very important. Sreya-sriti means the prosperous path of advancement towards the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and samsritih means the continued journey on the path of birth and death towards the darkest region of material existence.

People who have no knowledge of this material world, God and their actual intimate relationship with Him are actually going to the darkest region of material existence in the name of progress in the material advancement of civilization. To enter the darkest region of material existence means to enter into a species of life other than the human species. Ignorant men do not know that after this life they are completely under the grip of material nature and will be offered a life which may not be very congenial. How a living entity gets different kinds of bodies will be explained in the next chapter. This continual change of bodies in birth and death is called samsara. Devahuti requests her glorious son, Kapila Muni, to explain about this continued journey to impress upon the conditioned souls that they are undergoing a path of degradation by not understanding the path of bhakti-yoga, devotional service.

Shloka recited again….
Translation again….

“Devahuti continues, my dear lord, please also describe in detail both for me and for people in general, the continual process of birth and death, for by hearing such calamities we may become detached from the activities of this material world.” Nice verse, all the verses are nice. Everything nice only is part of Bhagvatam.

Devahuti is addressing her son, she doesn’t say, my dear son, Tatahar. She is addressing him as bhagwan, word bhagwan is addressed in this statement, which doesn’t come in the beginning of sentence, it could be anywhere, it is not bhagwaan, bhagwaan, bhagwaan is bhagwaan, but when you want to address bhagwan, you say bhagwan, there is a difference, bhavaan, bhavan, some verse like that, someone said bhagwaan, she thought it was not written correctly.

Its correct, bhagwan is oh! My dear Lord. She is interested, not selfish, you could see, she wants to know what is good, not just for herself but also good for everybody Mamah and jivalokashya, something that is good for myself and all the living entities. Sanshriti, everybody, is undergoing the repetition of birth and death, that is, mam-sanshriti or jiva-lokshya sanshriti, my suffering and suffering of all the living entities, the sanshriti, going round and round, and vividaha, varieties, manifold, related birth and death and then related, in between birth and death, there are varieties of kinds of sufferings, vividah, I would like to know how one could develop detachment, viragaah, virag from the sanshriti, distance from the sanshriti, detachment from the sanshriti, yen pursho, again repeated, for all the purashas, purush here not is the supreme personality of Godhead, but a human being, conditioned souls, purushah, tend to enjoy, purushah means enjoyer, so human beings are also addressed as purushah because the position they have taken in this world, purushah, enjoyer, they forget that they are prakartis, so they have taken the position of purushah, so they are purushah, yen purushah viraagah, so that all the conditioned soul have developed viraag, not raag, raag, viraag, raag means attachment, viraag is the opposite of raag, is viraag, sarvato bhavate and this detachment of everybody under all circumstances, sarvato, sarvatra and sarvato, everywhere and for everyone, so that is the enquiry by Devahuti, Srila Prabhupad is pointing out, sanshriti, so Prabhupad, shreyashriti, shreyam is something that is beneficial for the welfare of person then there is called, shreya, shreyashritih,

Nashreya Anupasyami Hatva svajanahame

Arjun says that in the first chapter of Bhagvad Gita, oh, I don’t see any good coming out of this hatva, I kill svajanam, my own people, Aahave, in this battle, I do not see any, shreyah, shreyah na anupaschami, I do not see any good coming out of this, so preyas coming out of this, shreyas and preyas, shreyas and preyas, when we talk of this, may be something shreyas or Lord, you may be talking, I will get the kingdom, I will get some immediate benefits, may be there, some shreyas may be there, no preyas may be there, but I don’t see any shreyas in this, everyone is into what, into preyas, just do it, just do it, latest mantra around the world, meaning don’t even think, just go for it, you feel good, OK, if you feel good, do it, just do it.

As soon as you begin thinking like Arjun is thinking, he wants to think, he is a member of civilized society, he wants to think in long terms, not what I get now, and that’s all that I care about, what I get out of this now, then what happens later on, no one wants to think about it, so these are the two paths, so sanshriti has been mentioned in here, and Srila Prabhupad is mentioning, preyas, preyas-shruti now, shreyas, now confusing, shreyas-shruti, preyas and shreyas. Krishna also, so many things like this. Yes he would like to know, by hearing such calamities, sanshriti, then we may become detached from the activities of this material world and then Kapil Dev is going to talk of the sanshriti, the suffering of birth and death, specially the suffering of the conditioned soul within the womb of mother, it is to follow, just go on hearing and one day, he will get there soon, one of these days, you get there soon, it is coming and it is really scary, really, read that chapter, just be by yourself and read through that explanation, what the living entity is going through in the womb of mother, to the rays, hair would stand on end and you will be really scared and you may be thinking, is there some way out, some way, I don’t want to be in there, so upon the request, Achaksavah, please explain, please describe, the sanshritih, and Kapil Dev, is really, the naked face of the material existence, no sugaring of the pill, the pill as it is, without sugar, the pill as it is presented in the next chapter, what living entity has to go through the suffering, in the womb of the mother.

Punarapi jananam punarapi maranam Punarapi Janani Jhathare shayanam, iha samsare khalu dustare kripaya pahi pare murare
Is the prayer of shankara-acarya, infact, considered very intelligent prayer, saying and he is approaching Murari for that, O Murari, O Lord, you are the killer of Mura daemon, he was such a powerful daemon, and you killed him, you are known as Murari, but what about killing, what, kill my birth, kill my death, kill my old age, kill my disease. Otherwise, you know what good is your name is Murari, you are known as Murari, so please kill Punarpi jananam…………….shyanam.

Janani, the mother, jhathare, in the womb, shyanam, sleeping, the germs and worms, do they allow you to sleep there, no, is there light there? No, there is no lamp, night lamp, its only darkness. You can’t even stretch your hands and legs, like a little rainbow and so many descriptions are there.

Janani Jhatatre shayanam, iha samsare khalu dustare
This sansar is very very difficult situation, oh Murari, kripya, kindly do something, help me out of this, very intelligent prayer, we don’t even know what to pray for, so these acaryas are teaching, how to pray, what to pray for, Devahuti is teaching us what to ask for, so Lord is right there, he could give her the whole universe, anything, anything you like, he is the proprietor but all that she is asking, get me out of here, don’t give me anything from this world, I just want to be out of this world, see the difference.

Shunya itam jagat sarvam govind virahename

Without Govind, there is nothing, shunyaitam, shunya, big zero, the universe also is round, right, universe is brahamand, egg like shape round, so it is like shunya, you make sign of zero and sign of the universe, they are both round, Caitanya Mahaprabhu said, this whole universe is like a big zero, shunyaitam, whole universe although filled with so many-many things, it is just shunya, just zero, just empty, there is nothing, where is Govinda, Shunya itam jagat sarvam govind virahename.

So that is the point of Devahuti, please explain the sanshriti, real this, get this into our head, we are sick headed, please get this in there, so that we understand once and for all, suffering that is there, so that will develop viraag, we will develop detachment and we will go for devotional service which she has asked for in previous two verses, verse no 1 and 2, she is interested in devotional service, so how does one get to the devotional service? First comes, the detachment, first things first and then you go for devotional service, of course, you can start the devotional service from day 1, you come to Hare Krishna, we are full of attachment, but we chant Hare Krishna, hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna hare hare, hare raam, hare raam, raam raam hare hare.

Not that you become completely free, detached, and then you touch the bead bag to chant Hare Krishna, devotional service is so powerful, it can, it’s a beginning and the whole, the means and the goal are at the same time. Sometimes, detachment is the means and bhakti is the goal, gyan is the means, and bhaklti is the goal, bhakti is a complete thing. So lesson number 1 is that everyone needs to learn in this material world, this is not the place for enjoyment, this is not the place for enjoyment, OK, you can enjoy, but be ready to suffer, you are welcome to the club, you can enjoy but just be ready to suffer and this is what no one wants to do. Everyone wants to only enjoy and not suffer, and that is not just possible in this world. You always get two things, two sides of a coin, you can’t have just one side of a coin, coin means two sides and this world means dvandava, dvandava means two, dvandavatito vimat sarah, that’s a goal, dvandaya atit, you go beyond these 2 things. Everything has a counterpart, men and women, black and….. there is a big list, infact there is a big list, you thought we are exhausted, nothing more can be said, and on that list is happiness and distress, you are locals, I am foreigner, there is a day time and soon there will be night time, sometimes, they are democrats, sometimes….. atheists, like that, goes on and on, there is so much duality here, two things, you cant have just one, just be ready for the other one also.

It was Budddha Dev, not Buddha, his father never let his children, his son, Siddhartha, his prior name, his earlier name was Siddhartha, he wouldn’t let young prince to go away from the palace, always within the compound of palace, he was growing, he was a young man already and his father would not let him go, father’s idea was if my son steps outside of the palace compound and take tour, go around, he will come across the sufferings, he will see the sufferings and he did not want him to know that sufferings exist but the son was very-very anxious, Siddhartha was anxious, and then father was like, take a chariot and take a look, have sansar-darshan, see you are on the tour of sansar-darshan, looking at the world and he comes across, someone is trying to cross the road, help help, help, and he had not only two legs, Siddhartha thought he had three legs, he had a stick, not stick, walking stick, cane, he had a cane, bigger one and he was not straight but bow down, like a rainbow, he was a rainbow in the womb, and he is again getting ready, being some rehearsal, before you go into the womb, where you had to, you can’t be even stand straight, or sleep straight, you have to be in that form, a bent one, so towards, the end of this life also, bending is done, so that it gets little easier in womb, some rehearsal, some practice from previous experience is there, so you are being bent, so why is this person was not standing straight was Siddhartha’s question, he is an old man, now, he has a third leg, and why he is struggling, so he can’t see, he is asking for help, person falls down, he is getting trying to cross the road, such a struggle just to go across a 15-feet road, he is struggling, he is an old man, charioteer is explaining, he is an old man, then Siddhartha has no experience of this before, what do you mean by old man? Does everyone becomes old? What about me? No problem. Does everyone becomes old, of course.

Surely, so journey continues, chuk-chuk-chuk…chariot goes and then he sees someone on the footpath, he has leprosy and flies all around, he is suffering like anything, whats wrong with this one, he is sick, he is diseased. Does everyone get sick and diseased? Sure, What about me? Sure, No problem and then journey continues, horses are going and then procession is there, everyone is walking but one person is having a nice time, he is just lying flat on a stretcher kind of situation and four persons are carrying him and they are also singing “Raam Naam satya hai”…”raam naam satya hai”..”raam naam satya hai”… Now they are remembering, the name of Lord is reality, name of Raam is thruth, person’s cremation, person is being taken to the cremation ground, why is that everyone else is walking, why is that person not walking? Enquiry made by Siddhartha, he can not walk, he is dead, so where are they taking him? To the cremation ground…what will they do? they will burn him, will he come back? No. Does this also happen to everybody? For sure. And to me. No problem. You are on the list, so that was it. So, Siddhartha said, I have seen the world enough, enough is enough, please take my chariot back to the palace. And that night, when everyone was fast asleep, he never slept that night, what he had experienced during this sansar-darshan tour, that was on his mind, one day I am going to be old, one day I will also be sick, not just once, but again and again, one day they will be carrying me like that and I will not come back in the palace like this, so I want some way out of this, I want to end all this, so in the middle of night, he took off, goes to Gaya, sits under a tree and he is meditating and the result was enlightenment, he becomes enlightened, means Buddha, Buddha, comes from Bodha, Buddhi, intelligence, so he becomes enlightened, because of this viragah, viragah mentioned here, he saw suffering all around, he wanted to find solution to this problem, no patch work, some permanent solution, and that he has been taught by at another incarnation of Lord as Buddha Dev at part, the viraag part, so Devahuti is interested in knowing, please explain, please explain, for my benefit and for everyone’s benefit, this sanshritih, so much suffering is here, and by hearing this, she is expecting this, hoping, expecting, that there will be
Yen pursho Viragaah.

All the conditioned souls would develop detachment, they will give up this idea of trying to enjoy, so Krishna in Bhagvad Gita also,
Yehi samsrparsha bhoga dukha yonaya eva te, adyanta vantaha kaunteya nateshu ramte buddha. The intelligent Buddha, intelligent person will not indulge in something that has beginning and the end, adi antavat, infact this verse is also defining the who is the intelligent person, or which country is the intelligent country or intelligent society, this is how you define, judge and define, come to conclusion, is this country, is this individual, is this society, intelligent one, so Krishna says,
Adi antavat nateshu ramte.

One who doesn’t go for this business, adi anta, beginning and end, teshu na ramte, Buddha, Buddha, the intelligent person does not go for something that has beginning and coming to an end, and there is always beginning and end to the Yehi Samsparja bhoga, that is all the western or material advancement or civilization is all about, Yehi Samsparja bhoga, our senses are brought in contact with the sense objects, Samsparja, sam means nice, there is always this word, Sam-kirtan, even, Sankhya, Sankhya, akhya means to speak, explain, Sankhya, sankhya philosophy means nicely explained, ethically explained, sankhya, so samsparja, contact, contact of our senses with sense objects, a nice contact, samsparja and Krishna says, samsparja, this contact, senses coming in contact with sense objects gives birth to , ja, ja means birth, janma, samsparja, this gives birth to what, that is bhoga, but Krishna of course, He is the most intelligent personality says “dukha yona evte” something that becomes a cause of your enjoyment ete, ete, this that, close connection, this is what we are not able to figure this out, in this age of Kali, we are into enjoyment, we are not able to make the simple connection that bhoga yena evte, dukha yon evta, something that gave you happiness, that exact thing will become the cause of your dukha, bhoga that’s enjoyment dukha that is suffering, yoni means source, yoni, yonaya, many causes, but something that gave you pleasure, will give you suffering, that Krsna’s point is, something that gave you bhoga that will turn into roga, disease, your suffering, Yehi samsrparsha bhoga dukha yonaya eva te, adyanta vantaha kaunteya nateshu ramte buddha

And then he concludes, adyanta vanta, this beginning & end, nateshu ramte budha. Intelligent person will not go for this, so this modern, so called modern civilization is a total failure in understanding this point, simple point, something that gives you happiness will give you suffering. Do you want suffering? No, then don’t go for bhoga. Don’t want suffering, don’t go for enjoyment. But if you want to enjoy, be prepared to suffer. So Krishna Consciousness, bhakti-yoga, that is what she is interested to know. What is this bhakti-yoga? Please explain this bhakti-yoga, so that one transcends. One goes beyond this happiness & distress, birth & death all that. So this is Krishna Consciousness. Those who have not understood this Krishna Consciousness principle, God conscious principle. They are in ignorance and they will suffer and Srila Prabhupada, he was fully aware of this sanshriti, here also seen the naked face of this material existence, have full realization, that full, so being in Vrindavan, he was also thinking, people are suffering, people are suffering all over, so he could not just sit back & relax and enjoy. Being on the bank of Jamuna, he leaves Vrindavan, goes straight to the capital of the age of Kali, New York and showers few bombs there of
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
Mahamantra and hands out some invitation & conducting his twice a week discourses. He is inviting them, please come, take part and he is explaining, what Devahuti is interested in, for jiva-loka, for everyone’s benefit Srila Prabhupada explains this science of bhakti-yoga, and he wanted many more to join him in his endeavor.

In India, he was attempting to, increase, expand his numbers, those who had so many children, he would approach, give me one son, no one gave, all are attached, then he goes to the West, America, whenever he wanted to, we also probably wanted to join Srila Prabhupada, but our parents would not let us do so, biggest stumbling block in India to join are the parents. When I joined, my mother was ready to give up her body, to give up her life. I received a telegram, but he went over to the West, the children there, that wasn’t the culture, good luck, they don’t have to consult their parents, they are on their own and they had gone to some extent, come to this Vairagya, some detachment, they are drop outs, cause of the suffering is, people around this country, hell with this, hell with that, looking for some alternatives and of course, they found drug as their alternative. The drugs were bringing them higher & lower, higher & lower.

Then, Prabhupada said, Ok! I have a drug that only keeps you higher. Stay high forever! You like that again, drug is there, dvandya is there, duality is there. They wish to stay high, but be prepared to go low. Go high, you go low, you go higher, you go lower, you go highest, you go lowest. No more going up, then you stay there, stay low. Then Prabhupada said, I have a drug that would stay high forever, then so many joined and then everything started and that was going on in New York only. Then there were invitations from the West Coast, then San Francisco, invitation from Mukunda, Prabhupada took, first flight Prabhupada took was from New York to San Francisco, that was first flight of his life, flying in aeroplane. Not flown before, that is why when I saw out of the window, all the buildings were looking like match boxes, when I am at the top of other, then gradually things expanded, Montreal was the third, New York, San Francisco, Montreal was the third, where does Los Angeles fit in? Fourth, so that was fourth in the row. Prabhupada made this as his western head quarter.

Los Angeles was the western head quarter for his International Society for Krishna Consciousness. Spent months, years, setting standards, training his followers, inspiring them to go all over US and starting more centre’s and then 3 Grahsta’s were chosen to go to Europe, to London, grahastas and Srila Prabhuada says what Gaudiya Sannyasi’s could not do, my grahsthas disciples will do now. He was proud of his grahstha disciples, even all disciples, grahsthas also, so they did it. So London, Europe was opened and then gradually other places. Then via Japan, he had come to Calcutta in late 70s. He had gone one time in the mid of, he was not well and soon as he was better he returned. But everyone was thinking, that is it, Prabhupada was not going to return. That was his 67, so he went in 67, then he went in 70, end of 70’s. Then he started travelling, doing big-big pandal programs in all over India. So he already conquered America, Europe, some other parts and he was making a big impact, big impressions upon the Indians.

With his western follower with him, to his right side, left side, behind everywhere and then Krishna Consciousness, then he went to Russia in June of 71. I was there in 71, March, pandal program and Prabhupada’s visit of Russia was already scheduled and made a point, make announcement, I don’t remember, I read only letter on, make announcement that I will be going to Russia, thousands, 20 to 30 thousand people in audience and one of his disciple to inform that Bhaktivedanta Swami, next he is going to Moscow. Big names India, someone going to Russia, America, two big big name in the world and also in India. He had already been to America and now he was ready for Russia. He made announcement that in June he will be leaving for Moscow. So he had gone to Moscow in June of 71 and Africa he had gone.

Africa was somewhere, so Prabhupada has made this Krishna Consciousness available all over the planet and there is no other solution, no one knows what the world is going through, you know when you are in difficulty. The present day leaders, the Presidents, the Prime Ministers, they have no clue, how to get out of this, totally confused. They will make big big statements, but they will make only more mess and so far, you will make only plans to exploit & enjoy. You should know only more suffering is awaiting you, that’s all, that’s your vision to enjoy. Enjoy kingdom of God, without God. According to this verse of Prabhupada, you are wanting to enjoy kingdom of God, without God, suffering would be there, you wouldn’t succeed, you will not succeed. Also, we haven’t mentioned here as Purusha, the enjoyer. We cannot compete; there is only one enjoyer that is Krishna. He will prove it and he is proving, no, you cannot enjoy, Ok, try it, see the results, it will work out for few moments, few days, few years, then you will see the outcome.

So there is only one purusha, only one enjoyer and everyone else is meant for his enjoyment. This is the conclusion, this cannot be changed, not reversed, not compromised, nothing, this is it or leave it. Have it or leave it, what is it, love or leave it. So, Devahuti would like some explanation, please explain, vicakshra, so that we understand the sanshriti and we turn to the Lord, go for devotional service, go for alternative, and only, so Prabhupada last pandal program that we did, in 71 was in Bombay was the first one. I happened to the fortunate one, Radhanath Maharaj was also, Yadubara, 3 of us was in an audience, in 71 pandal. We never met each other in that pandal, we found out later on, all 3 of us were there. And last pandal was there in 77, Prabhupada did not go to Vrindavan, leg of the festival, it was there in the Mayapur and from there he went to on the invitation of Giriraj, a brahmachari, still a brahmachari and Prabhupada was not well, but he did the pandal program and he roared, the topic was “Material civilization is total failure, only alternative is Krsna Consciousness”.

This was the theme of his very last public program that he conducted. So, 30 years ago, he declared publicly that this material civilization is doomed, failure, only way out is Krishna Consciousness. So it is our duty to further, further this, get convinced and please share this realization, this knowledge, so this is where the “Jare dekho tare kaho Krishna updesha” comes into the picture. “Jare dekho tare kaho Krishna updesha”, so what is Krishna’s updesha, bhagvad gita is his updesh, his instructions, so distribute Gita.

Caitanya Mahaprabhu is also behind this book distribution, distribute the knowledge, share the knowledge. “Jare dekho tare kaho” so distribute Srila Prabhupada books, there is knowledge, so when we talk, we could give the books, take out every opportunity, every forum possible, go on television, do the karma is good, is good, very good, yes or no and go with your boot as the language, scientist understand the language of boot. Prabhupada said, I think, he was saying in Atlanta. It was, kick them and then he corrected and added my boot, kick them. So karma is that front is very successful. So the myth has to be, what is it, myth has to be exposed or smashed. So there is a myth here, there is bubble of illusion here. This is the task of International Society of Krishna Consciousness, most important institution in the world, on the planet. Prabhupada made this claim, here he said, please understand this institution, you will support, push on this institution. So we have a big responsibility. This is all we have Krishna, we have Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu, so these are foundational days for Krishna Conscious movement, this is the future of the world, this is the future of this world. So Hare Krishna devotees are not confused or bewildered, that don’t know what is the way out. They could guide the entire human race. Prabhupada wants Brahmins, otherwise, otherwise he describes this society as the headless society. So what is the head, the Brahmin. One with knowledge is the head for society, so let us provides yogeshwara vani, where is lacking the society, we have to provide it, that is our role, brahmanical role, role of being exemplary and guiding, holding festivals, Rathyatra ki Jaya, big forum. Thousands of people come, thousands, so we have to understand, they want to hear philosophy, others we enter their heart, Krishna enter their heart through stomach, for those, enter stomach, heart is closer. He makes his way, heart can be conquered by prasadam, your tounge. So , a brahmachari, still a brahmachari and there is Krishna Con/strongstrongsciousness, such a beautiful, wonderful, sweet offering.

So, that there is no suffering,way out of suffering. Jai Advayta Maharaj gives shorter classes and leaves time for questions –answers you noticed. I do long classes and then no one wants to ask questions. Ok…..Thank you for… This is Srila Prabhupada’s 108th birth anniversary year also and I am starting from Janmashtmi Vyas puja, his 108th birth anniversary year, we are resolved to celebrate that, you remember 8 years ago was 100th Anniversary year, we did a good job, big job, centennial, we wish to do as many things, may be not everything, but as many things as possible to glorify Prabhupada and purify us. I said this is in San Diego and Badri Narayan Prabhu said it’s a nice mantra, nice sutra, Glorify Prabhupada, purify yourselves, satisfy supreme personality of Godhead, the glorification, purification, satisfaction, you glorify Prabhupada, become purified and Krishna is satisfied, nice sutra, this is how it works also, so let us take this opportunity to glorify Prabhupada, purify ourselves, many things different devotees can do, starting with big abhishek of Srila Prabhupada, Rukmani-Dwarkadheesh also, that’s the first item and then many more things to follow, big Mayapur festival, with lots of Prabhupada disciples and grand disciples, they are planning also, please remember, keep this in mind, spread the world around, Prabhupad family reunion in Mayapur, another big item, big marathon also, this year marathon, Is Vijay here? He was here, during centennial that was the biggest marathon of ISKCON’s history and he did it with some planning so, you are on the job. Ok, you are busy devotees and I like to talk…so..
Thank you for your time.
Jai Granthraj Srimad Bhagvatam ki Jai, Srila Prabhupada ki Jai, Rukamani Dwarkadheesh ki jai.
From audience: Lokanath Maharaj ki Jai.

Srimad Bhagavatam verse 4.12.22, (Class at Mayapur)

Maharaj recites the verse:
Tam Krishna-padabhinivishta chetasam
Baddhanjalim prashraya namra kandharam
Sunanda-nadau upasrutya sasmitam
Pratyuchatuh pushkaranabha sammatau

Translation: Dhruva Maharaj was always absorbed in thinking of the lotus feet of Lord Krishna. His heart was full with Krishna. When the two confidential servants of the Supreme Lord, who were named Nanda and Sunanda, approached him, smiling happily, Dhruva stood with folded hands, bowing humbly.

They then addressed him as follows:
Purport: Maharaj reads the purport by Srila Prabhupada:
“In this verse, the word pushkaranabha-sammatau is significant. Krishna, or Lord Vishnu, is known for His lotus eyes, lotus navel, lotus feet and lotus palms. Here, He is called pushkara-nabha, which means “the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who has a lotus navel,” and sammatau means “two confidential or very obedient servants.”

The materialistic way of life differs from the spiritual way of life in that one is disobedience and the other is obedience to the will of the Supreme Lord. All living entities are part and parcel of the Supreme Lord, and they are supposed to be always agreeable to the order of the Supreme person; that is perfect oneness. In Vaikuntha world, all the living entities are in oneness with the Supreme Godhead because they never defy His orders. Here in the material world, however, they are not sammata, agreeable, but always asammata, disagreeable. This human form of life is a chance to be trained to be agreeable to the orders of the Supreme Lord. To bring about this training in society is the mission of the Krishna consciousness movement.

As stated in the Bhagavad-gita, the laws of material nature are very strict; no one can overcome the stringent laws of material nature. But one who becomes a surrendered soul and agrees to the order of the Supreme Lord can easily overcome those stringent laws. The example of Dhruva Maharaj is very fitting. Simply by becoming agreeable to the orders of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and by developing love of Godhead, Dhruva got the chance to personally meet the confidential servants of Lord Vishnu face to face. What was possible for Dhruva Maharaj is possible for everyone. Anyone who very seriously engages in devotional service can obtain, in due course of time, the same perfection of the human form of life.

Maharaj continues to speak:
Beauty of the two confidential associates of the Lord:
The viman (transcendental aircraft) descended and from there came down the two confidential servants of the Lord, Nanda and Sunanda. Their beauty is described in the previous verse 4.12.20. “They were beautiful. They had four hands and a blackish bodily luster, they were very youthful, and their eyes were just like reddish lotus flowers. They held clubs in their hands, and they were dressed in very attractive garments with helmets and were decorated with necklaces, bracelets and earrings.” Such beautiful personalities they were, from out of the world, coming from another world. No one was like them. They were seen by Dhurva maharaj. Soon he realized that they were the servants of Supreme Lord. Immediately he stood up. (Verse 4.12.21).

He was not sure what to do next. He went forward and paid obeisances. He started chanting the holy names of the Lord. As this was all happening, immediately by seeing those two “Urugaya kinkarau” servants of the Lord, he remembered the Lord. This is today’s verse. He started remembering the lotus feet of the Lord or started remembering the Lord from the lotus feet. He was totally absorbed, full absorption, 100%. Krishna says about His devotees in Bhagavad Gita verse 10.9, “mat-chittah, mad–gata-prana.” (The thoughts of My pure devotees dwell in Me, their lives are fully devoted to My service). My devotees’ consciousness is glued down to Me. Here Dhurva maharaj’s consciousness is “abhivinishta chetasam”. This is his internal consciousness – absorbed in thinking of the lotus feet of the Lord. Naturally, Dhurva maharaj acted according to what he was thinking. Immediately his hands were folded and he bowed down humbly thinking of the shelter of the Lord. He noticed the two associates of the Lord coming to him, while smiling, looking happy and coming towards him.

The Lord: Pushkara- nabha and His other symptoms are:
These two personalities are described as Purshkara nabha sammatua. “Pushkara nabha”, as the Lord is described in this verse, has seven lotus-like body parts. Some of them are mentioned in the purport – His lotus eyes, lotus navel, lotus feet and lotus palms. Seven parts are pinkish in complexion. There are 32 symptoms of the personality of Mahapurush – like long arms reaching the knees, broad shoulders, raised nose etc. Dhruva maharaj was informed in advance by Narada Muni, “when you follow the process of chanting the mantra, Om Namah Bhagavate Vasudevaya, you will see the Lord. Let me tell you in advance how the Lord would look, so that no one could cheat you by saying I am Bhagavan. Dhruva maharaj did not know how the Lord looked, but Narada Muni gave the whole description in his first dialog with him in several verses in which Narada Muni goes on and on. So one such symptom was raised nose. It is considered as the sign of beauty. In India, in the match making, they look at the nose of the bride (laughter). Unknowingly they know the standard of beauty.

The Lord has raised nose. The Lord has deep voice. When He talks, it is rumbling of clouds. His voice is loud and clear and could spread all over the universe, without the use of microphone. When Lord Narsimha deva was roaring, all over the universe, they were hearing – Oh lion roaring, lion roaring! They were scared. When Krishna plays flute, the sound goes all over. But again, the Lord has complete control over that sound also. When the sound of His flute goes all over Vraja, but not that everyone is listening. Two persons sitting next to each other, one may listen to the sound and one may not. Gopis are always listening to the sound of His flute. They go running and others ask, “hey, what happening?” They know what happened because they heard His flute. So Lord has complete control upon who is allowed to hear and who is not allowed to hear. Not that, He just throws like free cookies and lets it go wherever it lands. He has whole plan – He listens and He doesn’t listen.
His intelligence is deep. His naval is also deep. Some parts of His body are deep. Some parts are raised. So the grand total is 32 symptoms of maha purush.

So Narada muni had given these hints, Lord will be looking like this. When Dhruva maharaj had seen these “pushkaranabha sammatau” – authorized persons or confidential servants of the Lord, he was in fact momentarily bewildered and did not know exactly what does this mean. “Sadvasa vismrutah kramah” (verse 21 – being puzzled and forgetting proper behavior).

Significance of Madhuban:
Same thing had happened to him before. I was looking at the beginning of the pastimes of Dhurva maharaj; when he first had darshan of the Lord in Madhuban, one of 12 forests of Vrindavan, which happens to be just a few kilometers outside of Mathura. On Vraja mandal parikrama, you can visit Madhuban with us. As we start our Vraja mandal parikrama, the very first forest we come across is Madhuban, just outside Mathura.

Dhruva maharaj met his guru maharaja, Narad muni in Mathura on the banks of Yamuna at ‘Dhurva ghat’. He told Dhurva maharaj to go to Madhuban. So on parikrama, we stay there for one day and one night. Parikrama is a little tapasya (austerity). Such a coincidence is that we first go to a place where tapasya was performed. So at this very first stop, we pray to Dhruva maharaj for his mercy so that we are also able to perform some small tapasya on our way to parikrama. That is where he had darshan of the Lord in Satya yuga. Madhuban is a very special place. Of all the four yugas, Satya, Treta, Dvapar and Kali; the Lord appeared there in Madhuban in Satya yuga. This is a great significance of Madhuban. The Lord appeared there to give darshan.

Dhruva’s six months of intense devotional service:
Where Dhruva maharaj was performing austerities called ‘yoga-vipaka-tivraya’ (from Bhagavatam 4.9.2 at the beginning of the pastimes of Dhurva maharaj), what he was doing is described as a very intense program – tivrena bhakti yogena (Bhagavatam 2.3.10 – doing devotional service of the Lord with great force). Dhurva maharaj is known for being very serious, dead serious for an intense devotional program. Satatam kirtayanto mam yatanantas cha dhrida vratah (Bhagavad Gita 9.14 – Always chanting My glories, endeavoring with great determination, bowing down before Me). Dhruva maharaj is known for this dhrida vratah or great determination.

By hearing about the fixed up devotees, by being around the fixed-up devotees, we are benefited. Dhruva means fixed – immovable and unstoppable. Nothing could stop him. Even though he was just a child, he was fixed in his goal of having a meeting with the Supreme Lord. Dhruva maharaj spent six months in Madhuban and within six months, he managed to have darshan of the Lord. He broke all the records. Within six months! Even it took six years for Buddha to become enlightened in Gaya. But Dhruva maharaj did it in six months. In Bombay, when I was in the Hare Krishna movement, not even for six months, I had service of going door to door to beg for rice for ‘food for life’ program. I was just a new bhakta and people would ask me, ‘have you seen God?’ (laughter). I said, I am just a new bhakta for two months; give me some more time. I have been around only for two months. But then six months passed, six years passed, and I am still waiting. (laughter).

Within six months, Dhruva maharaj managed for Lord’s darshan. He went from eating just fruits, then just leaves and then just water, then just air, and then no air, etc. Then Lord appeared, but again Dhruva Maharaj was so much absorbed in internal darshan of the Lord – due to his perfection in yoga, austerity, meditation, and mantra chanting – ‘sa vai dhiya yoga-vipaka-tivraya’ (Srimad Bhagavatam 4.9.2).

There was so much absorption in seeing the Lord internally that even when the Lord came and stood in front of him, he took no note of Lord standing before him. Lord wondered what happened to him. He said, “Hey Dhruva, I am here!” The Lord tried to get his attention. But Dhruva was so much absorbed seeing the Lord within with spiritual vision, divya chakshu. The Lord soon realized, he is taking My darshan from within. So He turned off that screen. Suddenly Dhruva said, “What happened? Did I lose Him?” So as he opened his eyes, Lord who was within was now without – in front of him. Hari bol!

Same bewilderment of Dhruva upon the Lord’s vision and of His servants:
When Dhurva maharaj saw the Lord in front of him, it is described as tad darshanena agata-sadhvasah (Bhagavatam 4.9.3 When Dhruva Maharaj saw his Lord just in front of him, he was greatly confused and offered Him obeisances and respect.). Same thing happened when he saw the two confidential servants of the Lord – Nanda and Sunanda. It is described in the same words as before –sadvasa vismrita kramah (Bhagavatam 4.12.22 – But, being puzzled, in hastiness he forgot how to receive them in the proper way). Dhruva was temporarily bewildered and did not know what to do, what next? Again he showed the same symptoms – he started offering prayers. Very similar situations: when he had first darshan and when he is going back to Godhead, two times, he was going through very similar emotions – while dealing with the Lord and again while dealing with the confidential servants of the Lord.

Drinking the beauty of the Lord, similar to the Gopis:
He offered prayers similar to those that he offered when he saw the Lord in Madhuban, offering dandavats and drinking the beauty of the form of the Lord with his eyes.
The gopis of course are very expert in drinking the beauty of Krishna. They drink the beauty of the Lord; they drink the form of the Lord. They drink and drink and as soon as the Lord is inside their hearts, they close the windows of their eyes. They take Him to the heart and make Him sit on the throne of their hearts and then they deal with the Lord – they communicate and reciprocate with Him. They couldn’t do that outside due to so many social pressures and customs and etiquettes to be followed. So they couldn’t meet with Him outside. So they drink the Lord’s beauty and contemplate.
Dhruva maharaj was doing something similar. He was drinking the beauty of the Lord with his eyes and with the mouth, he was kissing the feet of the Lord; with his arms, he was embracing the Lord. (Bhagavatam 4.9.3) When he had first darshan of the Lord, he saw the lotus feet of the Lord. And now also, when he was ready to go back to Godhead, he is remembering the same lotus feet.

Thus practicing remembrance of the form and beauty of the Lord, training in that way, in total agreement with the Lord; now Dhurva maharaj was remembering the Lord at the final moments of his life.
Pushkara nabha sammatau – in agreement with the Lord:
Srila Prabhupada says the most significant word in this verse is pushkara nabha sammatau’. Pushkara-nabha is the Lord who has lotus navel. Sammatau is one who is agreed upon, one who is recognized, approved by, sanctioned by or favored by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. This word ‘sammatah’ appears at various places in Srimad Bhagavatam in over 80 entries.
• Pushkara nabha sammatah means agreeing with Pushkara nabha or Supreme Lord.
• Sadhu-sammatah meaning approved by the sages.
• Shastra-sammatah meaning approved by the scriptures.
• Acharya-sammatah meaning approved by and authorized by the acharyas
• Prabhupada-sammatah – sanctioned, approved and authorized by Srila Prabhupada.
• Parampara-sammatah – approved by our whole Parampara, disciplic succession.

So this is all crucial and desirable to have all these sanctions and approvals and acceptance and this kind of agreement by the Lord, sadhus, shastras, acharyas, parampara and Srila Prabhupada. That is one whole set of approvals, sanctions, agreements.

Worldly agreements under Maya’s influence:
And then there is the whole world out there and they have their own sanctions and approvals and agreements etc. That is how the brain washing goes on in the whole world, life after life. Bahunam janmanam ante! After many many births, there comes a moment in one’s life – gyanavan mam prapadyate – a person becomes bhagyavan (fortunate) by the Lord’s causeless mercy, and he comes to know ‘Vasudevam sarvam iti’. Vasudeva is all in all – this much knowledge he gains– such soul is rare – sa mahatma is sudurlabha. (Bhagavad Gita 7.19)

Hare Krishna movement – training to agree with the Lord and disagree with maya:
Srila Prabhuapda is pointing out in the purport that the Hare Krishna movement is the program to train the souls (devotees) in Godly agreement; to get rid of that materialistic agreement with people , like camels, ashes, the stool eater hogs – the materialist men are agreeing upon different things and praising each other and what not. In Hare Krishna movement, one learns to get out of all those materialistic agreements, kick all that and to just go for such training as ‘sarva dharman parityaja mamekam saranam vraja’ (Bhagavad Gita 18.66: Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me) by which we are trained to agree with the Lord – Radha Madhava sammatah. This is authorized by Him. This is Hare Krishna mission, learning to agree with the Lord, and disagree with maya – external energy of the Lord. We are in this business.

Srila Prabhuapda writes in the purport:
“What was possible for Dhruva Maharaj is possible for everyone. Anyone who very seriously engages in devotional service can obtain, in due course of time, the same perfection of the human form of life as Dhurva maharaj.”

Dhruva maharaj ki jay! Gaura premanande Hari bol!

/strong, you will see the Lord. Let me tell you in advance how the Lord would look, so that no one could cheat you by saying I am strongHare Krishna mission

‘Suprabhat’ you understand, Good. That’s how it is translated. There’s a big difference between the two. Prabha, prabhat, here ‘bha’ means ‘light’. From bha comes bhaskar, there is bhaskar sabhagruha. ‘Bha’. We are also, the country that we stay in is called ‘Bharat’. This country, that is absorbed in ‘bha’, meaning absorbed in ‘light’. Then, from the light comes the delight. So in the morning, we get good sun. Lot of countries do not even see light of the day, like England and several countries. They just have to be satisfied saying ‘suprabhatam’, they just say good morning for other purposes.

Its a very good morning, good afternoon or good night, if we are on the brighter side, on the side of the light and also in a place where Bhagavat Gita was spoken, ‘Kurukshetra’, doesn’t use ‘bha’, ‘jyotisar’ sar is ‘shrot’, source of light. So the Bhagavat Gita is also source of light ‘tamso ma jyotirgamaya’ don’t stay in the darkness, go to the light and ofcourse the source of the light is not just the sun. Sun, it acts like a mirror. It just borrows and then reflects the light, light that comes from the Lord. Lord’s form is brilliant, He is brilliant. ‘Koti surya samaprabha’, again prabha is here ‘Koti surya samaprabha’, when the lord appears anywhere, on some planets, some universe. And this sun that we have, would be like a candle, in front of the effulgence, emanating from the Lord’s body. So originally light comes, anywhere there’s light that comes from the Lord. And you cannot see anything without that light.

At the night, when there it is a pitch dark, you open your eyes, find, go ahead open your eyes but do you see, unless Lord shows you with the light. Ok OK here here is a light. So how much dependent we are on the lord. For everything, we are dependent. Even stalk of seeing we depend upon him, unless there’s light, we cannot see and light you may say coming from the sun but Sun is also one of the eyes of the Lord, he has two, one is ‘shashisuryayo’ one is sun and one is moon. Only when the Lord opens his eyes in the form of sun or moon, the world is able to see. First person to see is Lord and then we are the next one. We kind of get the remnants. After Lord has seen, then we are the secondary seers of anything, This is knowledge. To know this, is knowledge, this is vidya. Contrary to all this is avidya. Vidya – avidya. So you are vidyarthi, ‘arthi’ vidyarthi, you are accumulating vidya, accumulators of vidya. So we could go on talking like this, however, I am also asked to focus on the topic of chanting. I don’t know whether you were told, as per schedule, this topic was for tomorrow morning, Radheshyam prabhu decided to shift that to this morning. So now we wish to begin our day. Infact, your day did begin at 4.30 in the morning and you already had been chanting

“Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Ram Hare Ram, Ram Ram Hare Hare”.

So something that you had been doing for past several years, on and off, or regularly, some chanting. You are all chanting, you are all chanters of the holy name and this morning, you have chanted. So there is no need of the talk really, like after, someone had taken his meal and he is satisfied and he knows, right? No one else has to tell you. Oh! Now you are satisfied. You must be contented or happy now as you had big meal or big feast. Does someone else need to tell this to the person who has just finished nice ten course meal? Yes, does anyone else to tell? Likewise, I’m confident that also in the atmosphere like this, almost, like the forest of ‘Naimisharanya’ here. And only difference is there were 80,000 sages had assembled. Now the numbers are little smaller, right. There were 80 or 88 and there were 88,000 and we are 80 or few extras accept one dog barking (laughs).There is nothing else, you could hear because for chanting, you need peaceful surroundings. Physically, your aasan before you go for chanting, the goal is Samadhi ‘ashtanga yoga’ and in between, there is a aasan, your situation and pratyyahar, dharna, dhyan, dharna, samadhi , these things are also applicable to chanting. So aasan which doesn’t refer to the physical seat that you are sitting on, but even the place that building or the hall that you are sitting in and where the hall is situated and again that whole hall and other things where are they stationed. Aasan is not limited to two feet by two feet patch. Aasan refers to what is around you; your surroundings is also the part of the aasan. So this is conducive atmoshere for chanting the holy names of the Lord, but everything is just the favourable, aasan is proper. And again there are timings they are favourable and not so favourable timings for chanting the holy name.

For chanting, concentration is required. With the concentration, with attention we chant. So in order to have that attention, we need some external help; we need some help surrounding us, proper aasan, even the company, the good company or the best thing is that others are also chanting around you, people around you, they are also chanting. That helps you, that inspires you to be absorbed in what you are doing, you are chanting and others are, whatever fighting, others are running hither and thither. What would happen? Naturally, you would get distracted by their physical run around and specially this kind of sounds that they are chanting, that shouting, they would reach your ears and what would be the next thing? You would be compelled to think about what they are talking, and that’s distraction. If they are not talking about the Lord or talking about the chanting or not chanting then that sound vibration by them will cause distraction so these are the favourable and then favourable timings we were talking, the day is divided into three parts.

Early morning hours are dominated by goodness ‘Satvagun’. The day times are, is of passion, the run around, the rat-race and night times are the darker side ‘Tamogun’. Of the three, which one is the best time you think for chanting? Goodness! My goodness, my goodness, everything is good. You have just woken up, your mind is fresh, the world is fast asleep, that’s nice! Let them sleep because as soon as they get up, they are going to make lot of noise or your phones are going to be ringing, tring, tring, tring, tring, tring. So while others are, of course good if everyone would be up. And this would happen in good old days. People used to get up early in the morning hours called ‘brahmamuhurta’ and chant the holy name. If you want to realise ‘parabrahma paramdham’ that is Supreme Lord. So the best time brahmamuhurta, muhurta you would know that. Before doing any activity, usually the reference, they refer to jyotish, jyotishi. He knows good times, bad times that’s ‘muhurt’. So for doing spiritual activities is already once and for all, muhurta is declared. What muhurt? Which time? Brahmamuhurt. It is one hour and 48 minutes or something before sunrise. That time is Brahmamuhurt and is most favourable time. If you wish to have a link with the Lord, so when we chant Hare Krishna, this is also yoga. Which yoga is this? This is bhakti yoga, in which bhakti is involved and this is the top most thing. So while we are chanting.

“Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Ram Hare Ram, Ram Ram Hare Hare”.

We chant with bhakti , with the prayerful mood, mood full of prayers. Even Srila Prabhupada goes to the extent saying,”crying like a baby.” Chanting, crying like a baby for help. Oh! Lord, please help, please pick me up, I am your child. Please engage me in your service. So we need to keep our mind praying like that, crying like that. So then it is ‘bhakti yoga’. Bhakti and yoga, what is yoga part? Yoga means to link. Yoga is linking, so what are we linking with here with Krishna. Which Krishna are we linking with, as we chant the holy name of the lord Krishna? Which form of the Lord Krishna? Krishna has many forms. Namrupa, one of the rupa, one of the form of Lord is his name. One of his avatar, Lord takes avatar, he descends.

He talks in Bhagavat Gita, ‘sambhavami yuge yuge’. Once in one age, one yuga, Lord appears. And what about now, we need Lord now. So Lord is willing to appear everyday but not only again once a day. But any part of the day and night. When does Lord appear? Whenever his devotees are calling him, Lord appears. Draupadi was in trouble, in difficulty, you know that. Dhusshasan on one side and Draupadi on other side, she struggles so that she would not be disrobed by this ‘roag’ Dhusshasan. Not sushyasan, not nice. Shasan means administrator, he was a bad, worst administrator. So she was trying, holding with both hands, the saree. She was protesting, protecting herself. That was not working out. Then saree with one hand, crying and praying with one hand. Did that work? It also didn’t work, finally she realised, “I have no strength, I am ‘abala’ means stree. Abala not much strength. So she decided to depend upon the Lord. She had both of her hands up and she cried out, “Hey Krishna, Hey Govinda.”

“Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Ram Hare Ram, Ram Ram Hare Hare”.

You may say, “Oh! no Dhusshasan is troubling me. Why I should pray, cry unnecessarily? Everything is so nice here”. But infact that is not so nice also or things are just waiting, sufferings of all sorts are waiting. Janma, mrityu, jara, vyadhi is all waiting and this could be described. If you hear the description how we are always in difficulty and always in a place described by the Lord as he is describing this world as ‘dukhalayam’ ‘dukhalayam’ which we are trying to make it into a sukhalay and this attempt is going on for past billions of years. Since the beginning of creation and we have not succeeded. But this generation thinks,”just give us as few more years by 2020, we’ll have this as sukhalaya” (laughter). But no, we cannot change the nature of this world. It is programmed to be dukhalaya and it will remain so forever. So we are in difficulty, in very awkward position, situation we are in, this is part of the knowledge also. Just ignoring that there’s no suffering or finding just little relief is not the way out, we want the solution to the problem. Again in Krishna’s words this ‘Janma, mrityu, jara, vyadhi dukhadoshanudarshanam’. Even the most intelligent, one of the most intelligent person Shankaracharya is praying. Last night also we were repeating:
“punarapi jananam punarapi maranam punarapi janani jathare shayanam, yah samsare khalu dustare very difficult this is to overcome these difficulties, so kripaya pahi pahe Murari”. “Oh! Murari! Please protect me.”

These are wise men. Madhvacharya, Ramanujacharya all these are wise men, all these aacharyas, Tukaram Maharaj and the list is huge, big and the list of the scientists, Madhavacharya was a scientist. Did you know that? Ramanujacharya leading scientist of this world, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, there are hundreds and thousands of names of the scientists in this world. Lets define it in simple definition. One who knows the science is scientist. These personalities they knew the science. The science of the soul, science of the Supreme soul or even science of how this world is created. How many species are there? They knew everything, the reality as it exists. Not some mental concoctions and mental speculations. They knew the shastras, the Bhagavat Gita, the Vedas, puranas, Vedanta sutra and Upanishads, and Mahabharata and Srimad Bhagavatam. These are the shastras, this is shastra and one who knows shastra is shastradnya. These are shastras. Everything infact, you need to know is in there.

Let’s go back to the chanting. It’s related. So we want to link with the holy name of the Lord while chanting the holy name and this is called bhakti yoga. Chanting with devotion, chanting attentively the names and then the Lord appears. This is the point we were making. So Draupadi called out in all helplessness and Lord appeared. So when the mood like Draupadi is there, mood of the chanter, then Lord appears. When those circumstances, similar circumstances, that kind of state of mind and intense prayer then Lord appears and the chanter of the holy name, he feels the presence. And in advanced stage, one could see the form of the Lord right in front of your eyes as a result of this chanting. And once you have the Lord, then you have everything, why only something. Actually, we are the proprietors, you know what are we proprietors of? We are the proprietors of this whole universe. Because that is our father’s property. Do you think that it’s your father’s property. You are making such claims. Yes, yes this whole universe is our father’s property.

Sab bhumi Gopal ki.

“Esha vashyam edam sarvam, yad kinchit jagtam jagat teen tyakteen bhunjita, mam kasya kris dhanam”

As good sons, we take only a small portion, that’s enough for me and I remain satisfied. So we are rich man’s sons. He’s not just a man, he is Supreme Personality, Supreme Father of all of us. This is his property. This is his planet. This is his universe and we are his sons. Why should we be satisfied with something little? Why not own the universe? Ya we become owners of the universe and as good sons, we remain satisfied with “teen tyak teen bhunjita” He has given you your quota and be happy with it. This would be possible, only possible if we are chanters of the holy name of the Lord and knowers of what we are talking here. We know, knowledgeable we are. The chanting of the holy names of the Lord will satisfy us. We will be happy, we will be happy to realise the Lord. We will be happy. This whole experience of joy and happiness, this is a blissful experience of chanting the holy name and then some basic necessity and we are done with it. Simple living and high thinking, high thinking, high thinking. So those who are high thinkers, high thinkers they will be happy with simple living. Keep it simple stupid(laughter). Keep it simple. But you won’t keep it simple unless you are a wise man, knowledgeable person or unless you chant the holy names of the lord and be happy.

Infact happiness doesn’t depend on anything outside. Even if you are given the whole world, you won’t be happy. You know the attempt is being made to reduce the number of people on this planet with the scheme called? What is that scheme? What is the strategy of the government called family planning? Big name under that comes number of things there, abortion. Family planning in good old days, the women they used to get ashtaputra saubhagyavati (laughter). I bless you to have how many? (Devotees: Eight) minimum. Now there’s a different formula. So 40 years ago they were saying,”Hum do humare do.” “We 2 and we have 2. Gradually they have changed. “We 2 and we have 1.” So systematic attempt is being made to decrease the population so that each one of us will have more to enjoy. More spacing facility, more clothing, more this, more that. Less people will share all that exists. Each one of us will have something more, best idea and then we’ll be happy. This is how the fools are thinking. But imagine by cutting down the population, cutting and cutting and cutting and reducing, finally, there are two people on the planet. You have successed in doing this family planning and now the success is there are only two people on this planet. Are they going to be happy? What each person is going to think? What? What will you think? Two is too many, two is too many. There should be only one. This is the conditioning, this is the disease which Krishna has spoken 5000 years ago in Bhagavat Gita. The conditioned soul thinks ‘Eshvaro Aham’ I am Eshvar. So he won’t be satisfied unless everything is his. But that dream would never be realised. So just decreasing the population so that each one of us will have more to enjoy. More, whatever more, that’s not how it works, no way.

We already said that our happiness does not depend on anything outside. What we really need to satisfy is ourselves, by satisfying your senses your bodies and the bodies of your
family members or bodies, ok extend this ego. You may want to include more people of your community and satisfy their bodies or further expand, include whole countries population, the country men and you may want to finally include all the humanity at large and try to satisfy their senses and the minds and the bodies . They would never be satisfied till when? Till what is satisfied? Last night also, we talked whole hierarchy is there. The material world is out there which is full of sense objects and above the senses is what? Mind above the mind. Some people are intellectual being and they try to satisfy their intellect, intelligence. They don’t so much care for their body and mind. They only try to nourish their intellect. That is satisfied.

You would not be satisfied unless and until so ‘he’ ‘you’, the real ‘you’ in’ you’ is satisfied, then you are satisfied. So what is that real you in you? Who are you? This the first thing first when we would know this, when we would learn this ABC. Happy happy we shall be when we learn our ABC. This is ABC. Who am I? This ABC or otherwise you may be PHD and all that. Not happy, not possible. No one is ever become happy just by these degrees so that so that again you could have a good job and you can make money and enjoy, no you suffer, Lord doesn’t want us to suffer, Lord wants us to be happy. Chant Hare Krishna and be happy. And when the soul is happy, when you are happy, then few basic needs and everything is taken care of. Even Mahatma Gandhi used to talk this, you should be happy in what you need. Need is ok, but if you are bothered by the greed then that greed will drive you mad all life long. This is what the rat-race is all about which is in motion. We are little behind in India but we are catching up with that race. Do you think this would make us happy? But we don’t realise that the greed is giving us dictation. We could become happy with some basic needs. But once you have enemy, this greed is one of the six enemies of humanity at large starting with kam, krodh, lobh, maad, moh, matsarya. These are the six enemies.

Greed, being greedy is you are attacked by your enemy. But these days you are encouraged to become greedy and how you could grab and for that purpose you become intelligent so that you could learn grabbing. There if you go with the ‘kaichi’ , scissors into the pick pocketting, then you will be behind the bars. Now if you want to transfer the money from others pocket to your pocket. But there are other smart people . They learn the art and science, how to grab the money? How to transfer the money from others account to your account in a legal way, in an authorised way, grab more, exploit more, and more or accumulate more and more and be happy this doesn’t work like that, so this chanting of Hare Krishna, infact, this is all you need and by chanting of Hare Krishna.

You have the Lord with you and he satisfies you. He pleases you. You are pleased with your Lord. He is also Lord of your heart, he is also Lord of your family member. He is also Lord of your neighbours and friends and countrymen and humanity at large. Let them chant the holy names of the Lord and we see so many. Even Guru Nanak. What do we see him doing? What is he doing?Chanting, even chanting, lot of people. Even Buddhist, you go to the. What are the places called? Montesary (laughs), monestry you go and they have rosary and they are chanting, Christianity, they also have rosary and they are chanting. This chanting is a universal thing and not only Hare Krishna’s are chanting. But in fact, all the religions they stress this chanting thing. What we call japa meditation which could also be called japa yoga. Yoga means linking with the Lord. So you are all the chanters of this holy name. You already have taken to this chanting. Chant. Keep chanting. Chant little more and you will experience for yourself, we have seen people. They are ‘Nisckinchan’, they are pennyless but they are chanting the Lord and they are the happiest people on the Earth while others, they have big big beds. You could buy bed but not sleep. You cannot buy sleep in the market. You could buy food but not the hunger like that.

People’s peace of mind is disturbed and they are greedy and lusty and angry and what not as they are, they will never be satisfied. Unless they turn to Krishna to Sri Rama and we turn to the Lord with chanting the holy names of the Lord. Lord has made His access very easy by chanting the holy names of the Lord. This vibration of chanting, this is nondifferent from the Lord. This chanting is a very big topic. It’s a big big science. It could be approached, it’s a science. It’s a science. It’s very scientific, results are also there. You do this and you go there and then, this happens and then this happens. Ofcourse, While you are chanting you have to keep your mind focused while chanting, while chanting your mind is bothering, your mind must be dragging you here there and so it’s not just sitting idle there. But you have to be very active . You should be sitting motionless you are not moving. But your mind is going to be bothering you at the time of chanting. More botherations of the mind comes during chanting. Other times mind is relaxed, absorbed. But when you are trying to bring your mind closer to the Lord, the conditioned mind ” No, No, No don’t bring me closer to the Lord” no I want to be there’s a big tug of war during chanting. Chanting is not a peaceful time. It is a war time. This is the time to fight. In the war, you have to fight and you would require help of what?

To tame the mind, to subdue the mind. To keep mind peaceful what would you need? Here help of, help of association. What else? Last night we were talking. Intelligence you need intelligence. With intelligence you will have to control this mind while chanting. Keep focused on chanting the holy names of the lord. So in our ISKCON several leaders also have written several books and seminars and volumes have been written on the science of japa and chanting. How much could we say in one sitting. There’s so much to talk about, this is a science. We are spending 20 years, 30 years to learn, a branch of knowledge, some science. But this is no small science. This is science first of all, results are there. So listeners think this chanting is only for some people only for religious people. Are you a soul? Is anyone here not a soul. You would not be here? If you had no soul or you are soulless then what would happen? When there is no soul but the body is there then what happens? Ramnam satya hai, immediately the body is useless. What’s the difference between the living body and dead body?

Difference is of the soul. We are all souls everybody here is a soul . If you are a soul then this chanting is for you. We want to make humanity happy. Lord knows we are children of god, why would he wanting us to suffer. He already knows that we are suffering i.e. why he is giving us the way out. Don’t suffer, be happy. This was Prabhupad’s mantra,”Chant Hare Krishna and be happy”. So we want you all to be happy. This is what Prabhupada wants, I want, Radheshyam prabhu wants and so many other personalities, mahatmas. They are well wishers. Mahatma is a well wisher of the society. ‘Paradukha dukhi’ why did Prabhupada leave that peaceful atmosphere of Vrindavan? Why did he go to America? Why did he go 14 times around the world? He knew that people are suffering ‘Paradukha dukhi’, he was dukhi in Vrindavan to see people suffering. So he wanted to do something on behalf of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and this is what he did. And as a result of chanting, he saw even hippies became happies. With the pride Prabhupad would we heard him saying this, “Even hippies have become happies.” If hippies could become happy then we are not that big of a hippy. We are not some traits may be there in us. So they were in intense care unit those hippies. Gone cases, dropouts and what not, they were cured by chanting the holy names of the lord. We are not that bad we have just little fever, little headache, routine disease This sickness, we could be cured instantly by chanting holy name of the Lord. So please keep chanting and share this chanting with others.

Encourage others to chant this holy name. You don’t have to be first, first I will follow all regulative pronciples “Oh still I’m doing this thing or that thing. I am still drinking tea or I’m still doing” this that, I want to first stop this and then take to the chanting, no keep chanting and if you really wish to give up some bad habits, some sinful activity, you will be able to give it up, kick it out of your life. Kick that bad thing with the help of chanting take to the chanting, your job will be a lot easier, so you don’t have to work so hard as the world is working so hard to accumulate more and more and more and try to enjoy their senses and body and they’ll never become happy. So learn this technique, science of becoming happy and you are already on the path of becoming engineers and doctors and professionals. Yes, we wish you all success. But at the same time, everyone has to be a devotee of Krishna whether you are doctor or professor or javan or kisan or doesn’t matter who you are, we want Krishna Consciousness, God consiousness is for everyone. Only some people would be doctors some would be engineers, some people lawyers, some people farmer, some may be soldiers but everyone has to be a devotee of Krishna devotee of lord. This is common for everybody.

Arjun was a devotee. He was a big fighter. And do not think people of this India. They knew this technology. You go to South India, see what kind of temple they have built, the masterpieces. They are 5000 years old, they are thousands and thousands of years old. Marvelous architect, the beauty and heights! You think they did not know technology, they did not know architect, they did not know engineering. Everything that you need to know is there, it is there in sastras. This is what we are talking, Sthapatya sastras and so many. Even subtle sciences and we knew this.

There was a time when people came from all over the world came to India to learn and their learning was not considered complete. “Oh! You had been to India? Did you go to that Nalanda University? Or did you go to that Takshashila University? Are you a student of that University?” They were teaching everything from A to Z. Not just chanting or puja, all practical things. The health, you name it, the hygiene, what, administration and what else you name it and it was being taught by the rishis and munis and people came from all over the world. Jesus Christ was in India. He became learned in India. Big big scholars used to come in India to Bharatvarsha to learn. And then they would go and teach there, this is how the knowledge was spreading. I just recently read one article. One big Chinese scholar, he visited India and he was astonished by the learning that was going on in India, he was captivated. He was a big leading scholar, What is his name? Ya difficult Chinese name (laughter). So finally he toured India and he was so much impressed and he wanted to share this with his countrymen. He took lots of scriptures with him, big big loads and he also took some men, who would interpret, explain those scriptures back in their China after some journey on their land. They had to travel by boat to get back to China. So during their journey in the ocean, there was winds and some turbulence. So they thought, ”we need to download some of these extra luggage, some baggage, some weight here.” Otherwise the boat is going to drowned here in the middle of the ocean. So they were thinking of downloading, of throwing some of those manuscripts, some books into the ocean. Some, but those Indians ‘Bharat pandits, scholars’, they told ”no no hands off”. If you wish to minimise some burden, some weight. Why dont you throw us into the ocean? Or we are ready to jump off and give up our lives. The scriptures are more important, more valuable than our lives. They were ready to sacrifice.

Knowing the value, the knowledge in depth complete knowledge in those scriptures. So we are leaders and India had been leader and we will remain so forever. This is a false propaganda. As we remained slaves for 1000 years, for 1000 years India remain slaves of Muslims and then Britishers came and they had done such a good brain washing. Everything Indian, low class and everything west is high class and like that. And unfortunately, leaders of this country, not realising this value of what India stands for? But amongst those leaders were Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada ki jai…………. He pointed out the value of India’s culture and knowledge and the wealth of the holy name again

We want to make India wealthy. Wealth is meant to buy something which will satisfy you. But your rupees and dollars are not what you buy is not satisfying you. But the chanting of the holy name which is real wealth. ‘Goloker premdhan’ harinam sankirtan. This will satisfy you. Take this wealth of this holy name and become wealthy. If someone asks you,”Oh! Where did you go
, we had to gone become wealthy, we have come here. Three days seminar we had, we wanted to be enriched”. “Where did you go?” we went to become enrich, become richer. Rich in culture, rich in knowledge, rich in spirituality, rich or souls becoming rich. So go on becoming richer and richer, rich person is happy right this is the notion. Everyone we have to become rich to be happy but not the kind of rich the world is talking about. Your soul has to be rich enrich then you’ll be happy. So chant:

“Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Ram Hare Ram, Ram Ram Hare Hare”.

We guarantee you that you will be happy. If you don’t become, take us to the court, complain. Like last year also I could meet you, after one year, you could fine me. So it’s guaranteed. This is the guarantee given by the Lord. Ok I took few extra minutes of you and again your breakfast is going to be late, dinner was late last night. I come to spoil your schedule and your routine program. But again I was very happy to be associated with youths of India we feel also young in asand it will remain so forever. So we are in difficulty, in very awkward position, situation we are in, this is part of the knowledge also. Just ignoring that there’s no suffering or finding just little relief is not the way out, we want the solution to the problem. Again in Krishna’s wor/emem/emd/strongs this sociation, old as we are becoming in association. You are boiling with enthusiasm and energy. So it’s nice again I want to express my joy to see youths of this great nation India are stepping forwards to know the treasures, the hidden treasures, our forefathers have left behind them. We need’ means to find this and you are searching looking and, you will find Hare Krishna movement will keep guiding you with the help of sastras and sadhus and acharayas. They are wise men, they were not drunkard, they were not gamblers, they were not women hunters, they were not meat eaters. You could be knowledgeable but you could be women hunter, you may be scientist but you could be a drunkard, you could be so called leaders but you could be meat eater. That is not civilized, when we are talking of civilization, civilized so you are going for that treasure, that wealth, that knowledge. So as you pursue your paths you are simultaneously investing your time and energy in, then life would be complete. This mundane pursuit is not the way because we are not only body, we are souls we have to take care of body and soul, you have now both, and this is complete.

Thank you.
H.H. Lokanath Swami Maharaj ki jai!!