Sri Krishna Caitanya Chandra appears to dissipate all darkness of ignorance

Venue: Vrindavan (At Sanskrit School)
Dated: 17 August 2013

Jai Srila Prabhupada ki….jai
Guar Nitai ki……………jai
Sukhdev Goswami ki….jai
Gopiprandhan Prabhu ki…jai

So As I did not sing “om namo bhagvate vasudevaya” instead I sang what I sang, probably you have realized I am not going to read from Bhagvatam today’s verse, instead we will read from Caitanya Caritamrita is that ok? And just the very beginning of Caitanya Caritamrita, Adi Lila first few sloks they are not in Bengali, probably you are wondering. So you all are Sanskrit scholars, so Bengali also? But you do not teach literature or commentaries in Bengali, Gopiprandhan he knew Bengali, He knew lot of languages, he was Russian and he was learning Chinese also and Bengali. I am a student of Bengali, I am student of Sanskrit only student, only beginner, I wish to learn from one of you student, you teach me. Recently I was reading this beginning part and wonderful verses Caritamrita not only its nectarian but very foundational siddhantic, full of siddhant corner stone very important. Introducing before going for the introduction of the caritra caitanya carita or caritra same thing, Krishna das Kaviraj Goswami is introducing that Caitanya Mahaprabhu who is Caitanya Mahaprabhu? Who He is? What is the purpose of His advent? Generally Lord says or routine way Lord appears for “paritranaya sadhunam vinasaya ca duskrtam dharma samsthapanarthaya sambhavami yuge yuge” (Bg 4.8) that He does all the time in every Age and why He appears He has declared that in Bhagvat gita but this time as He was appearing as Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu He has some additional reasons, some private personal confidential reason for His advent. So that also has been stated in these beginning verses of Adi Lila of Caitanya Caritamarita. So I thought and here you are, Caitanya Mahaprabhu is a presiding deity of your institution here, your school of thought here Bhagvat School. And I thought I would also do little study of theses verses in company of the scholars in their assembly as Goswamis “nanasastra vicarnaik nipuno sad dharma sanssthapako” in order to establish sad dharma they would sit with the big pile of “nanasastras” various scriptures and it has been translated then they would scrutinizing study the sastras “nanasastra vichar “ vichar- contemplation, churning, Krishna churns butter.

So this is in Bengali Caitanya Caritamrita entire, whole Caitanya Caritamrita and its also complete Bhagvatam only verses, Srimad Bhagvatam Mahapuran mula matra. You have Caitanya Caritamrita here? “Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare”

Odra desh Udisa is in Sanskrit they call odra desh? Utkal that’s one, “vande gurun isa bhaktan isam isavatarakan tat- prakasams ca tac- chaktih krsna- caitanya – samjnakam” (Adi lila CC 1.1) is that Sanskrit or Bengali?(Maharaj asking the students). So Krishna Das Kaviraj Goswami the very first word he utters is “vande” aham vande – I offer my obeisance’s unto and obeisance’s are beginning “gurun” obeisance’s unto gurus as also “vande aham sri guroh sri yuta pada kamalam sri gurun” vande sri guroh and then gurun- my initiating spiritual master one and gurun- many siksha gurus many instructing spiritual masters. So here he is not making distinction he says gurun- siksa gurus, diksha gurus. “rupa raghunatha pade rahu mora asa” he ends chapter he aspires to stay close to the lotus feet of his spiritual masters, Rupa Raghunath- rupa raghunatha pade, so “vande gurun isa bhaktan” devotees of isa- devotees of the Lord again many of them in 2.3 isa bhaktan ‘sri Krishna caitanya prabhu nityananda srivas adi guar bhakta vrinda’ not just one guar bhakta but guar bhakta vrinda, vrinda- samudaya- assembly lots of them – guar bhakta vrinda. So isa bhaktan headed by Srivas adi- Srivas and etc beginning with Srivas, headed by Srivas. Basically this verse is similar to that “pancha tattvatakam Krishna bhakta rupa savarupakam bhatavatra bhaktakyam namai bhakta saktikam” it is just said differently here but this is a similar prayer, prayer to the panchatattvas. So who they are? One is already covered ‘isa bhaktan’ and ‘isavatarakan’- the avatars of isa –Lords incarnations again headed by Advaitacarya he is avatar of Maha Visnu. So my obeisances unto all the avataras, they advented with Caitany Mahaprabhu along with Caitanya Mahaprabhu. I was just reading few days ago that in Dwaraka where Lord is Dwarakadhish or Vasudev and some gandharvas were there, they only sing right? They were dancing its said, may be they were also dancing and its said gandharvas and they were dancing and Lord Vasudev was pleased and attracted to their dance and then He had desired also to dance.

So when Caitanya Mahaprabhu was about to appear that Vasudev enters the body of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, so that He gets to dance to take the dancing experience. And it’s well known fact that when Krishna appears all incarnations even Ram all those from Vaikuntha planet they all head towards Golok and they enter into the body of the Lord. And when Sri Krishna is playing pastimes this killing demon business this is not Krishna’s business there are other avataras in Him and they do this killing and Krishna does His Vrindavan pastimes sweet pastime. And all those residents these incarnations they identify look look our Lord our Lord, our Ram, our Narsimha…..so Krishna is playing His pastimes other Lords are also part of Sri Krishna. So they are very happy He is our Lord, so Caitanya Mahaprabhu non different from Sri Krishna is coming up. So when He appears many incarnations also appear with Him or within Him, so these are ‘isavatarakan’.

‘tat-prakasams ca’and who is prakash of Lord Balaram ‘Balaram hoila nitai’ so Nityananda prabhu – this is my obeisances to Nityananda prabhu and ‘tac-chaktih’ its each time ‘tac-chaktih tat prakasams’ everything is His, everything is Lords. Incarnations of the Lord, the energies the shaktis of the Lord or energy takes form energy personified energy becomes person personification of energy. And this is Gadadhara, Gadadhara is shakti – Alahadini shakti of Lord, so Radharni appears in Krishna or within Sri Krishna, in Caitanya Mahaprabhu there is Radharani ‘sri krishna caitanya radha Krishna nahi anya’. And as well as alhadini shakti appears as Gadadhar pandit ‘krishna caitanya’ so is everyone covered here? (Maharaj asking) “pancha tattvatakam Krishnam’ Krishna is appearing in 5 tattvas – bhakta rupa that is Himself – bhakta rupa then bhakta avatar, bhakta svarupa is Balaram, bhakta rupa is Himself, bhakta avatar is Advaitacharya and then bhakta shaktikam that is Gadadhar and bhaktakhyam that’s Narada Muni, Narada Muni appearing as Srivas known as Bhakta. So vande aham – I offer my obeisances unto all these pancha tattvas Krishna das Kaviraj says. And now he turns or he is focusing on Guar Nityananda they are present here.

vande sri-krishna-caitanya- nityanandau sahoditau gaudodaye pushpavantau, citrau san-dau tamo-nudau’ (Chaitanya Charitamrita Adi-1.2) it has rhythm-citrau sandau tamo-nudau its aao..aao..you know why its aao? Why it’s ending with aao? (Maharaj is asking somebody answers) two – dvitiya vachan it refers to two or its two two. So vande again my obeisance’s unto Sri Krishna Caitanya and Nityanada-nityanando sahoditau or Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu saha along with Nityananda prabhu He appeared, His appearance is sahoditau arisen the sun rises in the east eastern horizon and these two Lords also have appeared on eastern part of India Bengal is that part of world they both have appeared Caitanya Mahaprabhu appeared along with Nityananda Mahaprabhu. And the name of the country the horizon has been mentioned Gaudodaye- gauda udaya they appeared in Gauda desh, pancha gauda- north India these different 5 provinces called pancha gaudas, south India pancha dravida, so pancha gauda- Gauda desh Bengal part of Gauda there they appeared and as there is talk of udya, “udilo arun?a puraba-bhage” puraba purva eastern side. Sun rises in the east Caitanya Mahaprabhu gathers associates and goes on kirtan “puraba-bhage- udilo arun?a”. So Srila Prabhupada also gave name to Mayapur temple is called “Mayapur Candrodaya Mandir” Mayapur Chandrodaya..Caitanya Chandra udaya..Caitanya Chandra appeared. The place of Caitanya Chandra’s appearance but here Krishna Das Kaviraj is talking of not only Chandra but also Surya, Sun and Moon appeared “puspa vantau”. (Maharaj says I don’t how this connects with Chandra and surya (and asking devotees) do you know? It’s translated as sun and moon but I wonder).

He says “puspa vantau citrau” sun and moon, so Caitanya Mahaprabhu is moon and Nityananda Mahaprabhu is sun “nitai-pada-kamala, koti-candra-sushitala” there also he is mentioned as moon – millions of moons cooling effect, this is what you get from Nityananda Mahaprabhu and “citrau san-dau” chitra-vichitra, what is Rupa Goswami’s? (Maharaj asking devotes) chitra kavitva wonderful or variegated “citrau” – wonderful amazing, citrau- they are both amazing wonderful. “san-dau” sam – da, sama dama tapa- that sama dhatu sam from sam also comes shanti. Shasan or shisya, shas dhatu Prabhupada says disciple means discipline shas, so shas and shanti has different origin, (Maharaj asking you know which one?) sam.

So this is kalyan sense “sandau” the giver of the benedictions, auspiciousness, ‘sandau tamo-nudau’ nuda is another dhatu, so tamo-nudau what is tam? What is tam? Tam is ignorance, tamoguna – tamo-nudau. So this age of Kali is full of ignorance full of sudras “kalu sudra sambhava”. Then Lord appears and He does tamo-nudau- frees them from darkness of ignorance. What is that in 10th chapter Lord says “aham ajnana jam tamah” (B.G 10.11) how does it begin? “tesam evanukampartham” tesam eva anukam partham- that’s the purpose when Lord heart goes towards the suffering entities then Lord has anukampa – His heart is trembling because of His compassion and runs after or towards them “tesam evanukam partham aham” that is Lord says aham- I do “aham ajnana jam tamah nasayamy” aham nasayamy- I destroy what do I destroy? aham ajnana jam tamaha. Tama – ignorance produced by ajnana jam, ajnana gives rise to tama – darkness, ajnana jam tamah, so tama here is darkness Lord is talking. When person is full of ignorance then what happens to him he is full of darkness and that’s when we say “caksurunmilitam yena tasmai sri gurave namah” and the beginning is “om ajnana – timirandasya jnananjana –salakaya caksurunmilitam” unmilitam – operation is done. So Lord says I destroy the darkness and how does He do that “jnana dipena bhasvata” – He lights the lamp of knowledge with the torch light of knowledge “tama soma jyotir gamaya” tama soma- don’t remain in darkness “tama soma jyotir gamaya” go to the light not to the light Brahman, go to the light of knowledge.

So Guar Nityananda they appeared they have appeared, when he is compiling this Lords were still on the planet? It’s after ya, yes must be after because Lord departed in Jagganath Puri then Raghunath Das Goswami he left Jagganath Puri for Vrindavan and what is good is now life without Caitanya Mahaprabhu I am going to climb over Govardhan hill and give up my life. Then he was dissuaded from doing so by the Goswamis then he settles on the banks of Radhakunda that is where Krishna Das Kaviraj gets association of Raghunath Goswami and Raghunath had been keeping dairy with the pastimes of Lord in Jagganath Puri the latter pastimes and off course there was dairy of Murari Gupta with childhood pastimes of Mayapur. And then Krishna Das Kaviraj had never ever met Caitanya Mahaprabhu but vaishanvas had appealed you are one most qualified you write you write. So Raghunath Das Goswami was neighbor of Krishna Das Kaviraj, so must be after Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s departure Caitanya caritamrita was compiled. So here is past tense “sandua tamo nudua” so Lord has already done His pastimes of removing the darkness of ignorance.

“yad advaitam brahmopanisadi tad apy asya tanu bha” (Chaitanya Charitamrita Adi-1.3) now last line of this verse “na caitnayat krsnaj jagati para-tattvam param iha” there is no superior truth, superior to two name are said together “na caitanyat krsnaj” Caitanya Mahaprabhu is Krishna only difference is difference of the name “namo mahavadanyaya Krishna prema pradaya te krishnaya Krishna caitanya namne” I offer my obeisance’s unto krishnaya to which Krishna, Krishnaya Krishna caitanya namne, now His name is Krishna Caitnaya I offer my obesciances unto Krishna who is now known as Krishna Caitanya namne. So Krishna Caitanya same, so “na caitnayat krsnaj jagati para-tattvam param iha” “krishnat paratattvam aham na jane’ one devotee has complied this Madhusudana Saraswati “vamsi vibhushita karan navaniradabath pitambarath bimba adharoshtath purenendu sundara mukath aravindanetrath krishnat paratattvam kimapi aham na jane’ I do not know and it doesn’t exist, so there is no question of knowing any superior truth “krishnat paratattvam aham na jane’. So similar emotions have been expressed and Krishna personally has also said “mattah parataram nanyat kincid asti dhananjaya” (BG 7.7) so that Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Krishna Das Kaviraj he is writing you know that the brahma brahmasmi the talk about the advait that they talk about in Upanisad “tat api asya tanubha” there is nothing but the bha- the effulgence of tanu- the body of the Lord that effulgence that they realize and they say ‘I have realized God’ what do you have realized? I have seen light. Well that is just.. That is just.. have patience you not realized everything, you have only realized tanu bha that is only the light effulgence coming from the form of the Lord. “hiranmayenaa patrena satyasyapihitam mukham tat tvam pusann apavrnu satya dharmaya drstaye” (Isopanishad slok 15) please remove please remove this glaring effulgence and show me your lotus feet or lotus face “satya dharmaya drstaye” I am your devotee please remove this glaring effulgence I want to keep going get closer to you I want to see your form I want to see origin of this effulgence.

So the effulgence they talk about is nothing but just the rays coming from the form of the Lord His Personality of the Lord. “vadanti tat tattva-vidas tattvam yaj jnanam vidam advayam brahmeti paramatmeti bhagvan iti sabdyate” (S.B 1.2.11). So Brahman realization is just one of the aspects of the Lord that’s not everything that’s just beginning and then he says “ya atmantar yami purusa iti so syamsa vibhavah” and that antaryami Krishna parmatma that purusa He is but ansha of the Lord, Lord is ansi- means complete and He expands and there He goes parmatma He is just ansa of the Lord expansion of the Lord non different from the Lord, Lord’s parmatma. So he talked about Brahma, Parmatma and then he is talking about Bhagavan now and then Bhagavan is Krishna that Bhagavan is Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. “sad aisvaryaih purno ya iha bhagavan sa svayam ayam” “krishnas tu bhagvan svayam” ete camsa kalah pumsah krishnas tu bhagavan svayam” ete camsa- even parmatma is ansha or other incarnation “amsa amsa”. And He is full of six opulence’s sad aisvarya purna “aishvarya samagrasya viryasya yasaha jnana varagya” so He is full of all these 6 opulence’s and that is Bhagavan and that svayam Bhagvan is Caitanya Mahaprabhu “caitanyat krishnaj jagati para – tattvam param iha” there is no other truth, superior truth to Caitanya Krishna Caitanya. In other word Krishna Caitanya- no superior truth.

Ok now further glories of Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu “anarpita-carim cirat karunayavatirnah kalau” (Chaitanya Charitamrita Adi-1.4) now that Caitanya Mahaprabhu very kindly ‘karunaya avatirnah kalau’ kalau – in the age of kali He has appeared. What caused His appearance ‘karunaya’ He could not resist or with His mood ‘karuna sindhu dina bandhu jagat pate’. Lord is not only karuna sindhu oh! Just being karuna sindhu is no big deal if He was karuna sindhu but what is more important is He is dina bandhu. He is dina bandhu the friend of the fallen and that is how we are benefited by that karunasindhutva His being karuna full of karuna what good is that karuna, He is a ocean, mercy He has big stock of mercy but He was not going to be dina bandhu friend of the fallen if His heart was not going to go ‘anukampartham’ then He could have just remained whatever He is but what good is He for us for the world, for the souls. But He is not only karuna sindhu but more importantly He is dina bandhua so ‘karunaya avatirnah kalau’ Lord appeared because of His karuna and He has appeared after a long time or the way He is appearing things which He is going to do as Caitanya Mahaprabhu no one else has done this before “anarpita”- not offered not delivered, carim cirat- since long long time carim having been formerly not offered, cirat – for a long time. So He is going to offer something that no one no other incarnation that’s why Rupa goswami said “namo maha vadanyaya krsna prema pradayate krsnaya Krishna caitanya namne gaura-tvise namah” no one is as magnanimous as Caitanya Mahaprabu most magnanimous – mahavadanyaya. And then ok He is appearing after long time and He is going to offer something that was not offered delivered by anyone any other form incarnation of the Lord, what is that?

“samarpayitum unnatojjvala- rasam sva bhakti- sriyam” He is offering this ‘samarpayitum’ – samarpan, first word ‘unarpita’ arpan now samarpan ‘samarpayitum’ in order to samarpan – in order to deliver to hand out what? samarpayitum unnata unnata unnata nata unnata utunga, tungavidya also means the topmost, Mount Everest that is utunga shikhar that peak is utunga – the tallest top most. So unnata nata means bowing down bow down nata mastak and then unnata nata unnata ‘unnata ujjvala rasam’ – the topmost mellow top most rasa ‘unnata ujjvala rasa’ brilliant rasa the top most rasa most condensed rasa that is madhurya rasa – Shringar rasa. He is offering that He is going to share that but He is going to relish that Himself that is coming up soon and He is going to relish himself and share that with His devotees also “unnatojjvala rasam sva bhakti sriyam”. And His bhakti His own service unto Him will also be offered chanting of “Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare”.

Sriyam is translated here as treasure the treasure house; He is going to be cutting canals He is going to spread all over “avatirne guar chandre vistirne prema sagare yena majyanti majyanti te maha anartha sagare” sounds nice again this is from Caitanya Chandramrita ‘avatirne guar chandre’ Lord Guar Chandra appeared ‘vistirne’ He expanded ‘vistirne prema sagare’. ‘yena majyanti majyanti’ those who do not throw themselves into and then drown ‘ye na majyanti majyanti te’ those who do not throw themselves in this prema sagar then there is ‘emaha anartha sagare’ (Maharaj laughs…Laughtr). The other sagar is waiting for them there are only but two sagar two oceans – ‘prema sagar’ and ‘maha anartha sagar’. So Lord appeared to expand this prema sagar those who do not dive deeper into that they will have to drown and die in that maha anartha sagar.

 

So “harih purata sundara dyuti kadamba- sandipitah” so that Hari is ‘purata sundara duyuti’ radha dyuti they call radha dyuti, there is one devotees name Radha dyuti. Radha rani is also very effulgent so that effulgence that radiance radiates permeates that effulgence from Radha it’s not just a flat dry form, from that form comes Hari purata sundara dyuti. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu has golden effulgence now golden effulgence what is the origin of that? Radha rani is origin; originally Radha rani is “tapta kanchana guarangi”. So that Hari Hari also has ‘purata sundara dyuti kadamba sandipitah’ lighted up – sandipitah. The multitude ‘purata sundara’ multitude and more beautiful ‘dyuti’ – that effulgence splendor. Ok so then He says ‘sada hrdaya kandare sphuratu vah saci-nandanah’ so all this description is of Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu or His glories these adjectives this description is of Sacinandan and let that Sacinandan ‘sada hrdaya kandare’ hrdaya kandara- the cave- gupha – kandara. “paniya suyavasa kandara kanda mulaih” (SB 10.21.18 ) Gopis said that this Griraj supplies lots of water nice green grass caves- kandara the kanda mulaih also – fruits and roots to eat, kandara ‘sada hrdaya kandare sphurtu’ let Him appear manifest reveal Himself ‘vah’- that is you Sacinandanah. This prayer that let Caitanya Mahaprabhu make His appearance in your heart.

‘radha krsna pranaya vikrtir hladani saktir asmad’ –‘radha krsna pranaya vikrtir hladani saktir asmad’ ok so vikrti it is translated as transformation vikrti, kruti – vikrti, vikrti also takes place in this material existence and in prakriti there is vikrti then there is akriti. Prakriti –pancha maha butas that’s prakriti then some different things happen combination permutation action reaction that is vikrti and then takes akriti- the form. So some transformation takes place, so ‘radha Krishna pranaya vikrtir hladani saktir asmad’ this Radha Krishna pranaya – the loving dealings between Radha and Krishna and this is all the display of hladani sakti. Hladani sakti is in action hladani sakti pleasure potency pleasure giving potency of the Lord then all those ‘radha Krishna pranaya’- Radha Krishna dealings take place this exercise it’s a display its transformation of hladini sakti then all the Lilas Radha Krishna dealings- lilas take place.

“ekatmanav api bhuvi pura deha bhedam gatau tau” (Chaitanya Charitamrita Adi-1.5) and he says ‘ekatmanav api’ –infact Radha and Krishna are ekatma they are just one soul ‘ekatmanav’ although they are ‘ekatmanav api’ then what happen? ‘bhuvi’ somewhere in this world ‘pura’- long longtime ago, don’t ask when (Maharaj laughs), ‘bhuvi pura’ – long long time ago in the world what happen, this ‘ekatmanav- deha bhedam gatau tau’ they were one but they became ‘deha bhedau’ deha bheda here is Krishna now here is Radha that wasn’t the case originally they are ekatmanav- one person. But then once upon a time ‘deha bhedam gatau tau’ from one there were two and then something else happened. ‘caitanyakhyam prakatam adhuna tad-dvayam caikyam’ – so they were one from one became two and now means 500 years ago ‘caitanyakhyam prakatam adhuana’ now He has appeared as Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu meaning what has happened tad dvayam from one they had become dvaya- two ‘caikyam aptam’ – again they have become one. Aptam- they became one, they were one they became two they became one again ‘caikyam aptam’.

“radha bhava dyuti suvalitam naumi Krishna svarupam” now unto that Krishna svarupa which is Sri Krishna Caitanyakhyam- I offer my obeisance’s ‘naumi Krishna svarupam’ ‘radha bhava dyuti suvalitam’ and what kind of form that is? ‘radha bhava and dyuti’ two things are in that form radha bhava -bhava is inside emotions feelings – the mellow , radha bhava and dyuti – the effulgence. So he has taken two items from Radha rani He has taken emotions Caitanya Mahaprabhus emotions are Radha rani’s emotions, feelings thoughts like Radha rani and His look His appearance His effulgence is like Radha rani radha dyuti, radha bhava radha dyuti. And finally now in this verse he talks of the reasons why Caitanya Mahaprabhu or His confidential His personal reasons for Him to appear. As He appeared as Caitanya Mahaprabhu ‘radha bhava dyuti suvalitam naumi Krishna svarupam” that svarupa why did He go for that svarupa? And He has given three reasons ‘kidrso kidrso kidrsam’ one line is kidriso ‘sri radhayah pranaya mahima kidrso’ he is curious to know like “athato brahma jigyasa” (Maharaj laughs) he is very curious to know what does he want to know? ‘radhayah pranaya mahima kidrso’ this is straight forward radhas pranaya mahima –the greatness of love, Radha’s greatness of love Radha’s great love it is of what kind? I want to know! I want to know that Radha rani’s love, greatness of radha rani’s love.

vanayaiva svadyo yenadbhuta -madhurima kidraso” and then She does ‘asvadya’ asvadan she relishes me, She enjoys me and then that is Her love that is Her mood as She does asvadan of myself. So ‘madhuradi pate akhilam madhuram’ I am suppose to be ‘madhuradi pati’ ‘madhu adhipati’ master of all the sweetness, everything about me is sweet they say but I don’t know? Or I must be sweet, see what happens to Radha rani when She enjoys my company or my beauty my this my that she knows but I don’t know? Like the sugar does not know that sugar is sweet who knows? The ant knows ant knows (Maharaj laughs) that sugar is sweet the sugar does not know. So Krishna is saying I must be sweet because look what happens when She enjoys me, but then I want to experience that, I want to know her experience.

“va madiyah saukhyam casya mad anubhavatah kidrsam” there is little subtle difference here as She ‘saukhya’ She enjoys me and then She has kind of experience. So what kind of experience is that, what kind of person I am? What are these different attributes of myself the varieties of sweetness of myself. First of all what is the sweetness that’s one? And then as one enjoys that sweetness of myself what is that experience of experiencing that sweetness? Me being sweet is one thing and then experience of that which only Radha rani experiences that. So ‘kidrsam veti lobhat’ now Krishna becomes curious He becomes kind of greedy He is very anxious now to know this ‘kidrso kidrso kidrsam’. So now He has this desire developed within Him very strong desire – will, thinking-feeling –wiling. He was thinking then some feeling and then strong will within Him, so what is He is going to do now that ‘tad bhavadhyah samajani saci garbha sindhau’ ‘tad tad bhavadhyah’ premadhya – full of enriched with Her bhava – bhavadhayah. ‘tat’ that is Radha rani radhayah bhavadhyah samajani.
So ok Lord has already made up His mind that He appeared Krishna Das Kaviraj says He appeared samajani –ajani nanuragah, ajani – not born ajani, namnam akari bahudha- all that and what is the last line? Durdaivam – and unfortunate as I am ‘idrisham ihajani nanuragaha’ ‘anurag utpana nahi huva’ anurag ajani but here it is samajani – samyak prakare jani Lord appeared so Lord appeared with enriched with the emotions ‘radha bhava dyuti’ also samajani. Where and how? Well who appeared? Harinduh – Hari indu, indu is moon Hari indu appeared Caitanya Candra appeared. So usually we see the moon rising, when in Jaganath Puri you see as if the ocean is giving birth to full moon coming from we don’t see anything else but the ocean. And as if ocean is giving birth to the moon so Hari indu is appearing so where is the ocean? What is the ocean? Saci-garbha sindhau – saci garbha the womb of Saci that is Saci garbha sindhu it’s like a ocean. From Saci mata’s Saci garbha sindhu in the ocean of the womb of Saci devi Lord made His appearance.

So He has appeared He is here Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu ki…….jai. And it was also full moon night – purnima, two candras Caitanya candra and Chandra Chandra appeared at the same time. Chandra Chandra he covered his face how he could show his face “bahu koti chandra jini vadan ujjaval” spot less effulgence, so other Chandra hide himself behind the curtain. Jai Sacinandan Jai Sacinandan Jai Sacinandan …..Guar Hari. Ok

Questions from audience

‘Sampradaya vihina ye mantras viphala matah’
Lord is compared to vaidurya mani there is a mani – jewel – diamond like stone called vaidurya mani and this vaidurya mani the characteristic of this vaidurya mani is from different angles you see there is different kind of darshan. Different beauty is exhibited differently from which ever angle you look at this vaidurya mani. So all beauty it’s wonderful, one kind of beauty from this side another side. So Lord is like that vaidurya mani, some are seeing Radha Krishna- Golok dham; some are seeing in some sampradaya Sita –Ram of Saket dham, some are seeing vaikuntha – Lord of Vaikuntha vaikunthanayak and “nanavatar makarodha bhuvaneshu kintu”. If they follow their sampradaya strictly of course in future there will be one sampradaya (Laughter) gradually things are going to be diminishing the other sampradayas. “prithivite ache yata nagar adi gram sarvatra prachar haibe mora nama” those days are also ahead and “radhe shyam radhe shyam shyam shyam radhe radhe” instead they also will be chanting “Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare”.

Question
Prabhupada said that every year Mayapur flood, flood causing trouble water going higher and higher. He said this is the place from here flood of the Holy name, waves of the Holy name ocean, floods origin from there from Mayapur staring from Mayapur going all over this country that country here there unless there is tide and waves rising to unreach.

Question
Caitanya Mahaprabhu is most magnanimous what is lacking in us?

Giver is there where is the taker (laughs) in hindi Bhagvatam yesterday Prabhupada said the Vedic mantras are there but where are the chanters? Or where are the qualified chanters, so mantras are there but where are the chanters. Well offences we don’t have to be part of another sampradaya to offend Caitanya Mahaprabhu, or offend vaishanavas you could be part of Caitanya Mahaprabhus sampradaya and continue your offending business and then you lose the taste so that could be a cause. That happened to that muni he was in kaliya daha in the water saubari muni right in Vrindavan also most on the stage of trance and you know meditation and peaceful and everything was going fine but then he offended Garud Vaishnav, he offend garud. As he a result he lost all his trance focus the meditation and he was getting agitated by he and she fish seeing their acts that was causing agitation. So much so that he had to leave kaliya daha leave Vrindavan, he goes to the kingdom of King Mandhata – “give me wife give me wife I want to enjoy”. Here is daughter of mine; no one is not sufficient, ok fifty of my daughters, all fifty daughters of king Mandhata this Saubari muni married. So that could be possibility, and different kinds of offences are there vaishnav aparadha is one this aparadha that aparadha, this anartha that anartha anartha nivruti syat then what happens then nistha “nityam bhagvat sevaya bhagvati uttam sloke bhaktir bhavati naistiki”. So nistha we have to be fixed up attached to the holy name but keep chanting. Prabhupada talks of jaundice we are all diseased, so what’s the cure for jaundice? Sugar candy which taste so bitter- give me something sweet and condensed sugar is given sugar candy nothing can be more sweet then that but it taste very bitter because of the jaundice. So he may ask any other cure? No only cure only cure is keep eating sugar candy. And he keeps eating so what happens? He is cured and then he say bring me more sugar candy. Oh it’s finished no go get more, so holy name is sweet Lord has kindly delivered the Holy name. There is nothing wrong with the Holy Name something wrong with us so each individual case something wrong with this persons chanting, something else another kind of wrong this anartha that anartha. So do introspection and analyze conclude and you improve good chanting “aparadha sunya haiya lahu Krishna name” Bhaktivinod Thakur says “aparadha sunya haiya lahu Krishna nam”, anything else alright Haribol.

Guar Nitai ki…..jai

Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu ki……jai




Everything becomes auspicious just by chanting Holy Name of the Lord.

Venue: Germany Bhagvat Saptha (Ajamil Katha series – Eighth Session)

Continue this is our seventh and final session. And this is 3rd chapter of the sixth canto text number 20th and 21st onwards all the way to text number 35 which is a last verse. Do we have a news from Maharaj? I had sent enquiry and invitation for him to join us around 1’o clock for half an hour or so. When we would conclude so Maharaj could himself give some final words of wisdom. Is someone on the job? So whenever earliest you know I would like to know then I will prepare myself accordingly and adjust things. OK!

“svayambhur naradah sambhuh kumarah kapilo manuh
prahlado janako bhismo balir vaiyasakir vayam
dvadasaite vijanimo dharmam bhagavatam bhatahguhyam
visuddham durbodham yam jnatvamrtam asnute” (S.B. 6.3.20-21)

So after Yamaraja has mentioned ‘dharmam hi saksad bhagavat-pranitam’ that religious principles are enacted by Supreme personality of Godhead and no one else. Now here in he is informing his Bhatah, my dear servants, bhatah. Please understand that this Dharma ‘dharmam hi bhagavat-pranitam’ Dharma given by the Lord, enacted by the Lord is understood by twelve people. Fully well they understand and they are their names have been given here. They are also popularly known as Dwadash- Bhagvatas. We normally use Bhagvata, Mahabhagvata,Bhagvata. Our Prabhupada always say ‘nityam bhagavata sevaya’ so rendering service not only to the Bhagvatam (scripture Bhagvatam) but also to person Bhagvatam. Book bhagvata and person bhagvata, Srila Prabhupad made that distinction or two meanings of Bhagavata : Person bhagvata, book bhagvata.

So here are the person bhagvatas. They are twelve so they are called ‘Dwadash’ Ekadash means elevan ‘dash’ means ten. Trayodash, Chaturdash, Panchami, Panchadash, Shodash, Saptadash, Ashtadash like that. So they are twelve of them. ‘svayambhur’, ‘svayambhuh’ bhuh means to become, svayambhuh he just became, just came into existence that’s Brahma. It was just Lord no one else and he was born. ‘svayambhuh’ that is Brahma. ‘naradah’ the world preacher, leading preacher in this word is ‘Narada’. Narayan, Narayan who always chant the name of Narayan or he always chant ‘Radhika-raman-namne narada muni bajay vina, Radhika-raman-namne’ so that Naradah. Sambhuh that is Shiva ‘ Vaishnavanam yatha sambhuh’ kumarah four Kumaras (Sanak, Sanatan, Sanat, Sanand) all the four Kumaras. ‘kapilah’ Kapila dev one who profounder of the Sankhya philosophy. ‘manuh’ they are from manuh comes manushya manus these are the rulers. Manusamhita the guideline to be followed by human race comes from them. Manvantar they are also considered ‘avataras’ incarnations manvantara-avatar. They are fourteen of them in one day of Brahma. About 72 cycles of four ages they rule this universe.

‘prahladah’ prahlad alhad dayine ‘Prahlad’ alhad means pleasure, alhad dayine in order to give alhad pleasure to Prahlad Lord appears as Narsimha. Prahlad, ‘bhismah’ the grandfather. Bhisma horrible! How could you do this! Demigods exclaimed it. You are a prince and you are taking vow of not marrying. What would happen to the dynasty? It would discontinued this is very horrible thing. They did not say this in English (laughter). They just said Bhisma meaning horrible, how could you do this! Hence his name became Bhisma. Otherwise his name was? Devatat. He was Devatat son of Ganga and Shantanu, so that Bhisma. Bali Maharaj ‘atmanivedanam’ he is known for surrendering everything to the Lord. Hey! Hey!! Don’t do this! said Shukracharya. He is asking for three steps of Land but you don’t know who he is. He will take everything away from you. So don’t make such proposal, this proposal. Shukracharya was advising his disciple Bali Maharaj. Bali Maharaj he was ready to give up such a Spiritual Master. Anything that is unfavorable to be rejected he was ready to reject. And he surrendered everything so the ‘atmanivedanam’ he became famous for surrendering everything. ‘balir vaiyasakim’ vaiyasaki that is Sukadeva Goswami, son of Vyasadeva ‘vaiyasakih’. He is also authority; he is first one to speak bhagvatam publicly. The father Srila Vyasadeva compiled the bhagvatam. The son Sukadeva Goswami became the first reciter, public-presenter of this bhagvatam.’vaiyasakih vayam’ us, twelve of us. So who is the twelfth one? He only said eleven names and yes so humble. If it was me I would have mentioned my name first and then other eleven names that is he doesn’t even mentioned his name, he just mentioned other eleven names. And he said us, so us twelve. I am also on the list, twelve of us ‘dvadasaite vijanimo’ we know dharmam bhagvatam this bhagvat dharma.

Throughout these three chapters of the sixth canto that we have been studying. Dharma is addressed as Bhagvat dharma. Bhagvatam dharmam, bhagvatam dharmam several times. So you want to give name to dharma that is bhagvat-dharma. This ‘bhagavatam dharmam vijanimah’ we know bhatah, oh! dear servants, my dutas please understand this. ‘guhyam visuddham durbodham yam jnatvamrtam asnute’ so anyone who understands or by understanding this bhavatam dharmam which is guhyam confidential, visuddham pure transcedental, durbodham not that easy to understand. But once it is understood ‘amrtam asnute’ one becomes eternal, eternally liberated. For him no more death and eternal life he attains. And in the purport Srila Prabhupada is writing in four Sampradayas the knowledge has to be understood in Parampara so these twelve persons they know Bhagvatam. And this bhagvatam is presented or the spiritual knowledge is presented the authorized paramparas lines of disciplic succession. There are four lines of disciplic succession: one from Brahma which is known as Brahma sampradaya, one from Shiva that is Rudra sampradaya, one from Laksmi that is Sri sampradaya and from four Kumaras is Kumara sampradaya. One must take shelter of one of these four sampradayas in order to understand the most confidential religious system. In the Padma Purana it is said, ‘sampradaya-vihina ye mantras te nisphala matah’ if one does not follow the four recognized disciplic successions, his mantra or initiation is useless. In the present day there are many apasampradayas, apasampradaya it is not sampradaya not authorized or sampradayas which are not bona fide, which have no link to authorities like Lord Brahma, Lord Siva, the Kumaras or Laksmi. People are misguided by such sampradayas. The sastras say that being initiated in such a sampradaya is a useless waste of time, for it will never enable one to understand the real religious principles.

Text 22
“etavan eva loke smin pumsam dharmah parah smrtah
bhakti-yogo bhagavati tan-nama-grahanadibhih” (S.B. 6.3.22)

etavan-t his much, eva loke smin- so they know the stated bhagvatam dharmam, ‘dharmam hi bhagavat-pranitam’ ‘dharmam hi bhagavat’ What? ‘dharmam hi bhagavat’, so now one word is. So Dharma is now been stated ‘dharmam hi bhagavat?’ You don’t know? OK. ‘dharmam hi saksad (1 bhagavat-pranitam’ OK. Confusing! Now it is straight ‘dharmam hi saksad bhagavat-pranitam’. So Dahramam mentioned there, then mentioned these are the twelve personalities they know this dharma. And now Yamaraja is mentioning, so what is this Dharma? That Lord has created, Lord has enacted. And these twelve people know dharma. So which one is it? What is it? So ‘loke smin pumsam dharmah parah smrtah’ the topmost religion the best of all religions is Bhakti-yoga, performance of devotional service unto ‘bhagavati’ unto the personality of Godhead. Hmm! then only it is. Bhakti-yoga is not for any demigod or for any human being. Bhakti-yoga bhakti of ‘bhagavati’ bhakti of Supreme Personality of Godhead. Then it is Dharma, that is topmost dharma ‘parah dharmah’ and again to be more specific Yamaraj says ‘tan-nama-grahanadibhih’ specially to chant His holy name is the Dharam, is the Principle of Dharma.

Devotional service beginning with the chanting of holy name of the Lord is the ultimate religious principle for the living entity in human society. Dharmam bhagvatam, real religious principles are Bhagvat dharma. The principles prescribed in Srimad Bhagvatam itself or Bhagvad Gita. The Preliminary study of Bhagvatam, Bhagvad-Gita Prabhupad describing that as Preliminary study of Bhagvatam. So it’s part of, they are together, two together, one preliminary introductory study and then the main scripture Bhagvatam. ‘sa vai pumsam paro dharmo yato bhaktir adhoksaje'(S.B. 1.2.6) so in the beginning of Bhagvatam also this dharma has been described as ‘sa vai pumsam paro dharmo’ dharma is parodharam. What is parodharma? What is the topmost dharma? ‘bhaktir adhoksaje’ here the word ‘bhagavati’ has been used ‘bhakti-yogo bhagavati’ this verse says which Yamaraja has said and earlier in Bhagvatam the parodharma, topmost dharma, ultimate dharma was described as ‘yato bhaktir adhoksaje’. So Adhoksaje and bhagavati is the same thing. Adhoksaje- transcendental, Adhoksaje. And then Prabhupada is quoting such a religious system begins with tan-nama-grahana, chanting of the holy name but there are other processes ‘sravanam kirtanam visnoh smaranam pada-sevanam arcanam vandanam dasyam sakhyam atma-nivedanam’. So this is navvidha, nine processes of devotional service. After chanting the holy name of the Lord and dancing in ecstasy, one gradually sees the form of the Lord, the pastimes of the Lord and the transcendental qualities of the Lord. This way one fully understands the situation of the Personality of Godhead, OK! Next verse.

“namoccarana-mahatmyam hareh pasyata putrakah
ajamilo pi yenaiva mrtyu-pasad amucyata” (S.B. 6.3.23)

Yes, he said ‘dharmam hi saksad bhagavat-pranitam’ dharmam is enacted by the Supreme Personality of Godhead and then these are the twelve people, they know dharam. Then he says, the Supreme dharma is ‘bhakti-yogo bhagavati’. Devotional service unto the Supreme Personality of Godhead and specially chanting is Dharma ‘namagrahna’. And after stating that much ‘tan-nama-grahanadibhih’ Yamaraj says, ‘namoccarana-mahatmyam hareh pasyata’ just see! Just see!! The greatness the Mahatmya, the significance of namoccarana, utterance of the holy name. Now you understand ‘putrakah’ my dear children. He is addressing Yamadutas as Putrakah, my children. Children mean just small boys, newly born or not you don’t know too much. You are just children! You are just children, so you should take note of the glories of Holy name of Hari. ‘pasyata’ do you see now? And you were shown this in fact ‘ajamilo pi yenaiva mrtyu-pasad amucyata’ and that’s the reason. Now you should understand Ajamila was amucyata, was liberated, mrtyu-pasad you went there with the ropes in your hands. You have tied him, you are dragging him. But that’s the time he performed best of all the Dharmas. He chanted the holy name of the Lord and that’s it, he was liberated. Do you know see the glories the potency of holy name? ‘namoccarana-mahatmyam pasyata putrakah’ just see my boys. Understand, take note of this. There is no need to conduct research into the significance of the chanting of the Hare Krishna mahamantra, Prabhupada writes. There is no need to conduct any research, no. The history of Ajamila is sufficient proof of the power of the Lord’s holy name and the exalted position of a person who chants the holy name incessantly. And same thing has been stated. That song ‘dina-hina jata chilo, hari-name uddharilo, tara sakshi jagai madhai , tara sakshi jagai madhai’. Dina-hina, dina- they were poor, hina- their consciousness has been fallen, condemned as they were ‘dina-hina jata chilo, hari-name uddharilo’ Harinaam can uddhar, can elevate lift the people.

By hearing this statement you may ask what is a proof? Can you prove it? And the song says, its by Narottam Das Thakur that ‘tara sakshi’ the example, the witness, the proof is Jagai Madhai. Life of Jagai and Madhai. The way Jagai and Madhai were liberated, rescued. And eventually they became great Vaishnav devotees of the Lord. So these Jagai and Madhai is proof. And so that is five hundred years ago, much older history. Ajamila is yet another proof and do you know any other proof? Mrigaari-the hunter, ‘Mriga-ari’ he was enemy of the animals. You should not say ‘Mrig-hari’, some devotees say ‘Mrig-hari’. No! ‘Mrig-ari’. Ari means demon. Mrigaari is the example. Any other? Valmiki. Why going that far? Who? Prostitute who came to Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. Yes! Anyone else? There are thousands. If you want proof there are thousands proofs. We are just saying here is one from Ramayan times, here is another one from satyayug, another one from Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and another one. But then Srila Prabhupad’s times initiated five thousands disciples that was a proof. Then so many others thousands and thousands. So it’s not the thing of just past but during present times a first-hand experience of all of us the changes the revolution that has taken place in our consciousness with us. We have taken a U-turn, hundred eighty degrees it is said. This is because of ‘harer nama harer nama harer namaiva kevalam kalau nasty eva nasty eva nasty eva gatir anyatha’ Srila Prabhupada is quoting the verse in the purport.

“etavatalam agha-nirharanaya pumsam sankirtanam bhagavato guna-karma-namnam
vikrusya putram aghavan yad ajamilo pi narayaneti mriyamana iyaya muktim” (S.B. 6.3.24)

And the Yamaraja says, ‘alam’ bas! That’s enough! That’s sufficient. The chanting of the holy name of the Lord is ‘alam’ is just sufficient for ‘aghaagha-nirharanaya pumsam’ ahga means sins nirharanaya means making people sinless sinful people becoming sinless. This is possible just by ‘sankirtanam bhagavato guna-karma-namnam’ by Sankirtana chanting the glories of the, the qualities and activities of the Lord. This is just enough ‘alam’! ‘vikrusya putram aghavan yad ajamilo pi ‘ and we saw you have seen that as that Ajamila cried out saying the name ‘narayanaeti’ ‘mriyamana’ as he was about to leave his body and his said Narayana, when he was such as sinful person ‘aghavan yad ajamilo pi’ in spite of his beings sinful, just by Chanting the name Narayan, ‘iyaya muktim’ he attained liberation. So conclusion is ‘alam’ Harinaam is sufficient. Purport Prabhupada writes, the word alam, which is used in this verse, indicates that simply uttering the holy name of the Lord is sufficient. Sridhara Swami also quotes from the Puranas, ‘papa-ksayas ca bhavati smaratam tam ahar-nisam’ papa-ksayam means you become free from sin- Papa is exhausted finished by smarnam by remembrance ‘tam’ that Lord ‘ahar-nisam’day and night. ‘Kirtaniya sada hari’ you do when you become attained this ‘papa-ksaya’. ‘punya-ksaya’ when you are free from Punya or not free. Yaa then what happens? ‘kshine punye martya-lokam visanti’ (B.G 9.21) Kshay that is same thing. Diksha ‘ksh’ is there, when you take diksha ‘divyam gyanam dadati’ when you receive transcendental knowledge by spiritual master that is ‘di’ and what is? What happened with ‘kshay’ all your sins are finished. ‘Diksha’ spiritual master gives you the knowledge ‘cakhu-dan dilo jei, janme janme prabhu sei, divya-jnan hrde prokasito’ that thing. ‘cakhu-dan dilo’ and ‘divya-jnan hrde prokasito’ that divya-jnan. One achieves ‘divya-jnan ‘ so that ‘kshay’ is there.

‘sayam pratar grnan bhaktya duhkha-gramad vimucyate’ Sridhara Svami is quoting that ‘sayam pratar’ sayam evening time pratah morning time, morning-evening ‘grnan’ one who is uttering with devotion the name of the Lord ‘duhkha-gramad vimucyate’ that person become free from ‘dukha-gram’. Gram means aggregate, collection, accumulation. ‘duhkha-gramad vimucyate’. It is concluded, Srila Prabhupada further writes, It is to be concluded that with a strong vow one should chant the holy name of the Lord — “Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare”— for thus one will certainly be delivered from the clutches of maya by the grace of Krishna. Then Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura his quote also has been included by Srila Prabhupada here ‘namaparadha-yuktanam namany eva haranty agham’ if you have committed so much sin before chanting and even after chanting your chanting is still offensive. So what to do? He says, ‘namany eva haranty agham’ the name only will chanting of the name only will make you free from offences. No that, you know chanting is becoming offensive now, offensive now, I am thinking now not chanting because my chanting is offensive. I am committing lot of offences so I better stop? It’s a go




“Rules as per dharma”

Venue: Mauritius
Dated: 10 Sept 2012
Granthraj Srimad Bhagvatam ki… Jai.
Radha Golokanand ki …jai.
Srila Prabhupada ki…..
Jai.
So this is canto 10th canto chapter 49 text number 18th. So it is on the board, please repeat.
“Dharmena palayan urvim prajah silena ranjayan
Vartamanah samah svesu sreyah kirtim avapsyasi”

Dharmena – religiously; paalayan – protecting; urvim – the earth; prajah – the citizens; shilena – by good character; ranjayan – delighting; vartamaaanah – remaining; samah – equally disposed; svesu – to your relatives; Shreyah – perfection; kirtim – glory; avaapsyasi – you will achieve.
Translation and purport by Srila Prabhupada ki jai – By religiously protecting the earth, delighting your subjects with your noble character, and treating all your relatives equally, you will surely achieve success and glory.
Purport: Akrura told Dhritarashtra that even though he had usurped the throne, if he now ruled according to the principles of the dharma and behaved properly, he could be successful. End of the purport.
“Dharmena palayan urvim prajah silena ranjayan,
Vartamanah samah svesu sreyah kirtim avapsyasi

By religiously protecting the earth, delighting your subjects with your noble character, and treating all your relatives equally, you will surely achieve success and glory.
So this is Akrura uvaca, Akrura said and he said this to Dhritarashtra. We also had said yesterday if you were here.
“bho bho vaicitravirya tvam kurunam kirti-vardhana
bhratary uparate panda adhunasanam asthitah” (
S.B 10.49.17)
What we are reading is just the beginning and the second statement this one we just read this is the first one addressing Dhritarashtra Akrura said “O! My dear son of Vichitra virya, O! Enhancer of the Kurus glory, your brother Pandu having passed away you have now assumed the royal throne. And then today’s statement, so Akrura has come all the way from Mathura. He has been infact send to Hastinapur, you know where Hastinapur is? You know where Mathura is? You know Mathura ok. You know vrindavan? You have to know something in relation with that location you could understand the other things called sambandha jnana relationships.
Jai ho Radha Golokanand ki…… jai ho
Jagannath Baladev Subhadra ki …….Jai.

So on the banks of Jamuna is Mathura and on the bank of Ganga is Hastinapur. Hastinapur is not very far from Haridwar, you know Haridwar. Near there was a town capital of the entire planet Urvim he said you rule not just little kingdom. “Dharmena palayan urvim” the earth you are ruler of the earth. You are emperor there are others kings but you are king of the kings, you are emperor. And your capital is Hastinapur on the bank sacred banks of Ganga. So from Mathura Akrura has travelled to Hastinapur for the message of Krishna and Balaram. Some news reaching Mathura, all the way from Hastinapur. Not very good news, the sons of Pandu the Pandavas are being harassed tortured attempts to kill them. So many atrocities they had been undergoing. So something had to be done, so Akrura has come to Hastinapur and talk to the top person. Most responsible person for whatever was going on, it was knowledge of Dhritarashtra he is a king. His sons were responsible for some of the bad things going on. But then Dhritarashtra is a ruler and a father also of those Dhritarashtra especially Duryodhan had a big role to play. So here is advice of Akrura who’s a devotee of the Lord. So he is going to be talking on behalf of the Lord, as if Lord is talking himself now.
Akrura uvaca is very similar to Sri Bhagwan uvaca speaking on behalf of Sri Krishna Balaram. So my dear Dhritarashtra “kurunam kirti vardhana” you are the glory of the Kuru dynasty or you are meant to enhance the glory of the kuru dynasty kirtivardhana like a Go-vardhana, ananda-vardhana vardhan means to expand. You are meant to expand enhance the glory kirti (glory) of kurunam the kuru dynasty. And you are son of Vichitravirya that exalted king Vichitravirya you are son of him. Now Pandu is no more and your brother Pandu was expecting that you would be taking care maintaining taking care of his sons. They were just minor children when he passed away. This was his will that you would execute looking after his sons and in due course of time you would enthrone them they would become the rulers take charge of the kingdom. But it’s not happening that’s not going on this is unfair what you are doing “dharmen palayan urvim” you should protect urvim- the whole earthly planet you are suppose to be maintainer of the earthly planet or all the citizens on this earthly planet. You are raja and they are all your praja. They are your off springs, they are your children that’s the understanding, all the citizens are children of the king raja and praja “yatha raja tatha praja” – like king like citizens, like father like son. So citizens are like the king yatha raja tatha praja like that praja, praja as if he has given the birth they are his children and he is expected to take care of all of them “dharmen palayan urvim” and while taking care of them how do you take care of them dharmena by following the principle of dharma you take care of your citizens, will go forward.
“shilena ranjayan” so palayan ranjayan, palayan you maintain them and you also do what palayan and ranjayan, gopijan what is that? gopijana ranjan? brajajan ranjan Lord Shri Krishna is brajajanas ranjan He is entertainer delighter He gives delights to all the residents of vrindavan, brajanan ranjan. And for you you’re the king so have to do praja palan praja ranjan this is also called lalan and palan, the parents also do two things for their children they do lalan and palan. Palan is maintenance give them roti kapda makan give them housing, clothing, education this is palan, and lalan is give them affection love and affection. These are requirements of children palan and lalan parents seem to be doing palan but there is no time for lalan because they are so busy with their businesses they feed them palan, for lalan there is no time for family or children.
So palan is for body, more for body, lalan is more for mind soul. “praja silena ranjayan, silena by your character good character good conduct you do ranjayan ranjan pleasing delighting them keeping them jubilant happy. “vartamanah samah svesu” is some of these words are jewels very good words quality words jems “samah svesu” you should be equally disposed “samah sarvesu bhutesu” (BG 18.54) you should not make distinction, O! These are my children these are someone else children, these are my people these are outsiders this is not fair “ayam nijah paro veti ganana laghu chetsam” – these are my people and these are some outsiders “ganana” -one who thinks like this is counted amongst the “laghu chetsam”- Small minded people think like this narrow minded people low class people think like this ours and theirs and they make distinction.
“Udar charitanam tu vaisudhaiva kutumbkam”- those who are ‘udar’ magnanimous, broad minded vasudeva kutumbakam. Vasudha again urvim is prithvi the earth and vasudha is another name for earth. “vasudhaiva kutumbakam”- all the people on this planet are part of my family, his is high thinking, this is called? High thinking. Simple living and high thinking. Vasudhaiva kutumbakam especially you are the king you are the emperor and you should be thinking of everybody on this planet as part of your family. “vartamanah samaha sveshu”- they are all your people shveshu before vision like gods vision. This high thinking is a godly thinking, thinking like god not that you become god to think like that, like father like son father, so father is supreme Lord Shri Krishna you think like him you are son, you are his son so this is expectation your god son so think like the way your father thinks and father thinks Krishna thinks God thinks they all my people all mine.
So thinking on behalf of the Lord as representative of the Lord think like big thinking Prabhupada built the house, how big is the house? Whole world whole Mauritius, whole of Mauritius, is that world? Mauritius is world in itself. Our family is the world for some of us, big world Prabhupada was thinking the whole world can live in that house big house Krishna conscious family globally living in one house. “Sreyaha” and if you did this, this would be sreyaha, “na ca sreyo nupasyami hatva sva-janam ahave” (B.G 1.31) Arjuna at the beginning of the battle no no no fighting I can’t do “hatva sva-janam ahave” and this ghastly war fare killing my own people , “na ca sreyo nupasyami” I do not see “anupashyami na sreyo” any do not see any long term benefit in killing my own people may be something immediate benefit may be there, short term benefit may be there but I care for sreyah not for preyah, sreyas and preyas you feel good do it, don’t even think just do it feel good do it do not think this is preyas. Sreyas is taking everything into consideration what will be the reaction outcome of this action I will feel good now but what next what would be the reaction of what I am just about to do this.
So “na ca rajyam sukhani ca” Arjuna said ok if I win this battle I will become king and have some sukha, something immediate I would achieve but I would be losing all my family by killing them what good is that being ruler and happy enjoying kingdom if there are no citizens, no friends, no relatives remain after killing after the battle what good is that kingdom “na ca rajyam sukhani ca” I am not interested in this kind of kingdom and this kind of happiness so I will not kill. So Arjuna is thinking like that at least he is thinking of shreya business in long term I will not be happy. So Akrur is advice “sreyah kirtim avapsyasi” you will attain kirti if you rule like this “dharmena palayan urvim” if you rule the kingdom according the principle of the religion “prajah silena ranjayan” and if you entertain them take care of their even psychological needs, mental needs, taking care of body mind and soul complete whole is the three components body mind and soul so not only taking care of their bodies by palayan but by ranjayan taking care of their needs of the mind and ultimately of course the soul. “Vartamanah samah svesu” equal disposition equilibrium of your mind if you rule the kingdom like this, more things are to follow this is just one sentence one statement there is going to be long good advice or next quite few days we will be talking on and on and on and which is good for, you should give this to your prime minister of your country. Like Akrura has gone to the prime minister or president of the planet. Prime minister president should hear message on behalf of Golokananda, if Arjuna could do this gave a message Lord gave message to Arjuna pass that on so that they could rule the Mauritius accordingly. The citizens would be maintained and entertained, and as a result “kirtim avapsyasi” you will attain kirti and you will get good name for doing these things. Kirtim avapsyasi -this is something important achievement kirti is something one should try to achieve kirti some good name. “kirti yashyasa jivati” person who has a good name, good name fame in the society that person is good person is living person living. Otherwise he is already dead, while living in this body no good name means he is already dead. And by following God’s principles dharma, certainly one becomes naturally famous. He don’t need public relation department some image builder, Lord becomes He promotes kirtinam manah vardhana. While Prabhupada centennial and this is statement from the sastra I think from the Bhagavatam, Bhaktanam “Bhaktanam mana vardhanah” (S.B 3.24.30) Lord is known as bhaktanam His devotees mana, mana means honour mana sanmaan, mana vardhanah like a kirti vardhanah, mana vardhanah. Who does this Lord does this. Bhaktanam mana vardhanah- the glories of devotees. Who is a PR person for Dhruva Maharaj? Who is a PR person for Prahalad maharaj? They are famous after 100 & 1000’s of years have passed. And you know Dhruva maharaj? You know Prahalad maharaj? They were just 8 years old or maybe even smaller. I was told about Prahalad maharaj, Dhruva maharaj this Maharaj and that Maharaj. Bhaktanam mana vardhanah.
“ebe jasa ghushuk tribhuvana” May my Spiritual Master’s glories Srila Prabhupada’s glories spread how far? Tribhuvan in all the 3 worlds there his glories. So who is going to bring his glories from the other world? Lord does this “Bhaktanam mana vardhanah” “ kirtim avapsyasi” You will become you will gain good name. “marave pari kirti rupe urave” there is a saying in Marathi, You may die for sure you will die, but then you should stay behind in what form? Kirti rupe urave kirti rup. You may move on but you also stay on, how do you stay on? Kirti rupe urave you stay on in the form of your good name. People will remember you, they will be remembering you, you are there? you are not dead. So don’t die when death takes place, live on with your good name. So this advice of Akrura as he had arrived in Hastinapur he has already met with Vidura and mother Kunti and both of them have briefed Akrura. Briefing has already taken place given all the reports. You know that Duryodhana he did this and he did that and on and on and on, life has become unbearable. Does that Lord Krishna, do they remember us? As we are going through these ups and downs and harassments do they even remember this? Kunti is thinking or expecting them to come do something or telephone us or phone us, no sms nothing (Laughter). Vidura also saying I tried to give good advice to my brother Dhritarashtra, this he is just talking to Akrura. Dritarashtra and Vidura they are brothers and Pandu 3 sons 3 brothers, 3 of them. Pandu is no more so remaining 2 brothers. Vidura was born on the womb of lower class women sudrani, naukrani, he was very wise man Vidura, vidu – he very knew he was very learned and also very beautiful vidura vidura niti his principal of morality are world famous but he couldn’t take the throne because of his birth, then Pandu he had to leave his body he was not old man but there was a curse. So Dhritarashtra was born blind, Pandu brother was no more then he becomes the ruler but not forever as soon as Pandavas are grown up, Dhritarashtra should have immediately given the throne the kingdom to the sons of Pandu but he is not doing this because son of Dhritarashtra specially Duryodhan is very ambitious envious and ambitious he wants to take the throne and vidhura had given good advice to Dhritrashtra on many occasions and whenever vidura would talked to dhritrashtra he could understand points made by vidura it would make sense to them he would kind of agree yes that make sense that’s right brother thank you. But as soon as Dhritrashtra back with Duryodhan then all that good advice by vidura gone finish in vain because Dhritrashtra was so much attached to his sons specially the eldest one Duryodhan all that good advice would not go deeper take roots in his heart and consciousness that would come to an end.
So as a result and birth Vidura still there in Hastinapur after giving advice many time again and again and again its like preaching to the faithless is offence, preach to the faithless is an offence. So one day he felt I am committing offences I am giving good advice but its waste of time and energy. And one time Duryodhan also insulting, oh! I doubt dear father didn’t you hear from your Vidura he is the one who was giving this advice to you. And Duryodhan gets on the case of Vidura and that was it Vidhura leaves home and begins travelling all over Bharat varsh and this is much prior to that time.
“dharmen palayan urvim’ again the ruler is expected to ruler should take shastra in one hand which is dharma dharma shastra and other hand he takes sastra so before using sastra he has to refer first shashtra that is dharmen palayan urvim that is ruling the earth according to the principles of religion otherwise no shastra king is blind ignorant he just using sashtra (laughter). So either king is using shastra referring to the shastra or he has advisers the brahmanans learned pandits and they are compare to the head, Brahamanas are the head, the head gives direction to the entire body including the hands the head says use the hand, the head says battle now don’t battle do this do that hand does it accordingly so does the belly and the legs so brahmanas are this is their role in the society they are head not just the head. But the present day society is what kind of society? Prabhupada said? Headless society. Present day society is headless society. That doesn’t mean people they don’t have this part only (laughter). Ya! It is there but that head has no shastra inside there is no jnana inside there is no sheela character inside; there is no equilibrium of mind inside. So many things are missing. So citizens would be protected. The king rules the kingdom as per dharma.
“Dharmo rakshati rakshitaha” is very big statement from Vedic statements “Dharmo rakshati rakshitaha” People if you want to protect dharma protect citizens then protect dharma. If dharma is protected then the citizens would be protected rakshan raksha. A kshatriya is “kshatat trayate iti kshatriya” Kshat kshat mean getting wounded or getting hurt, so kshatriya is that person who kshatat trayate iti kshatriya. Kshatriya the king the ruler the emperor is that person who protects citizens from getting wounded getting hurt, this is his job description, Kshata trayate make sure they are not hurt and not wounded not hurt physically or mentally or spiritually. He is a manager of the society. So that’s why they are the first ones “evam parampara praptam imam rajarsayo viduh” (B.G 4.2) Lord said in Bhagvat Gita. The first party who should know the sastras in parampara disciplic succession are the kings “evam parampara praptam” praptam attain who attains? Rajarsaya Rajarishis Saintly kings. So Raja and Rishi this use to be the team. In good old days when there were there were proper rules & raja and rishi use to be the team. Now rishi giving the advice and raja doing the execution implementation, but then down the road some few hundred years ago and now that is what is happening more and more around the world or already happened secular state secularism or the church and the state separation. There used to be a time when church and state church means priest and state is the king use to work together. But in the west also segregation took place ok you please mind your own business in your monasteries (laughter) don’t interfere all that we’ll manage the state you manage the church.
So this is how the society became gradually the headless society, no guidance from the priest the brahmanas the shastras, which express the will of the Lord. The direction coming from the Lord how the kingdom should be ruled comes from the shastras, shadhus shastras acharyas and above all of them is Supreme Personality of Godhead and then sadhu shastra acharyas and then the kshatriyas there, they are for implementation. So “dharmena palayan urvim” according to the principles of dharma earth should be ruled. That is not happening as the result what is the result? Headless society is praja ranjayan is praja delighted? We travel all over the world practically and we are yet to come across a country and meet the citizens where citizens are delighted with the king, oh!we are happy with our king, oh! We are happy with our prime minister oh! Yeah we are happy with our president. Everywhere as we go around from country to country everywhere the citizens are in tears troubled heavy taxes and what not what not.
One gentlemen’s son died the father is living son dead. This happened in the rule of Sri Rama one such case, immediately he went directly to the king. There must be something wrong in your rule, some discrepancy some flaw as the result you see the father is living son dies before father. This was un-heard of but this happened who is responsible the king is responsible. Something is wrong with his rule. And now what happens? So many sons and daughters are dying prematurely dying or they are not even allowed to take birth, parents make the plans. Mother makes the plan the child is killed in the womb. And then the governments would pass the legislation that abortion is legalised. So the government doesn’t panelise you but there is another government up there the Lord’s government. “sunday ho ya monday khate jao ande”, so the government has legalised but there is another government “ Yamaraj ke dande” they don’t know this. So government may pass so many rules make legislation constitution when headless society they pass these rules. So this is all preyas immediately I feel good for the sake of convenience I do this, do that but then this shreya this is preya, shreyas a long term what is the outcome of these actions.
So palayan urvim protection of earth thinking of that for a moment all the present day kings which are presidents and prime ministers mostly while they are combined rules of this planet earthly planet see the affairs of this planet. Earth itself is in trouble, earth itself is sick and developing some temperature which they call that as? Global warming. The globe mother earth is warming up, now 4 degrees have gone higher than the normal. In whose lap we reside hopefully happily mother herself is not in healthy state then what could children expect. There is so much deforestation cutting the forest which sometimes is compared with, the forest on the body of the earth face of the earth is like a sari of the mother earth. She wears a sari form of this forest, there are some flowers there embroidery on the sari the green sari and then lot of beautiful sari embroidery all over but the present day rulers present day Duryodhana and Dushasanas what did Dushasan do some 5000 years ago what was he doing? Right there in assembly he disrobed he was attempting, he was attempting to remove the sari of Draupadi. So now there are so many Dushasanas all over the planet. They are doing the same thing or making big holes and Johannesburg looking for gold, we can see big big mines as if flying over those areas that dug so much dirt on earth another mountain like they go deeper looking for gold, looking for coal, looking for petroleum, looking for this. And so much pinching so much drilling that be possibly I don’t know but there are so many news of earthquakes these days. Every other day is earthquake somewhere on the planet. The news of earthquake use to be rare you know above 10-20-30 years ago and few times in a year the news of earthquake but now every other day some earthquake somewhere so many earthquakes like earth is trembling its trembling shaking. And with all this climatic changes climate change I don’t know whether you are experiencing this in this part of the world but rest the world are taking serious note and seriously being affected by the changes in the climate. The seasons drag-on or some places there is a drought or there is a flood everywhere, drought everywhere and blowing of the winds and tornados. Some years ago there was a haricane, haricane in America and I said Hari’s cane (Maharaj Laughs) Hari has come with a cane to beat you (laughter). So there is so much mismanagement, misrule of citizens all human population, so this is what you get then animals are also part of the praja. Animals are also part of they are the children of the king they are also citizens so where is that ‘samaha sveshu’? Ok we’ll take care of the human beings but we’ll slaughter the animals. We’ll slaughter cows, feed beef to the human beings this is adharmena this is against the principles. Not only human beings are citizens and children of the country and the king but all the animals including trees why cut them we need them. They need us we need them, they give us oxygen and take carbon dioxide they give oxygen in return, Oxygen is our life. So there no trees no forest to do this transformation take CO2 and give O2 oxygen and the temperature is going up. Kirtim avapsyasi as a result they say that the kings and the president not getting good name not in this life forget in the next life after they are gone they are not remembered.
Ok so many things this piece of advice from Akrura this is some 5000 years ago but still relevant to this day that’s why this is in the Bhagvatam. This wasn’t just printed in the Hastinapur newspaper. Akrura from Mathura gave this piece of advice to the king of Hastinapur, Dhritarashtra and photograph of that what Akrura had to say some printed quote and unquote and then next day another news and next day another news and next day another news and that has been again old and irrelevant news and useless. That is not the case that is why what Akrura had to say to Dhritarashtra was good for all the time in future. Hence it was not just printed in the newspaper but it has been included in Bhagavatam here for benefit of everybody. And especially for rulers because they are suppose to be ‘evam param para praptam’ evam raja rashayo viduh. They would read what Akrura had to say, they would study this and rule their countries accordingly. So their citizens are protected, so that the citizens end up becoming Krishna conscious citizens’ God conscious Krishna conscious citizens and attain the perfection of their life.
So we have to get this cross spread this around, see how we could apply this in our our own lives. May be we are not emperors of the world, we are not president of the country but we are president of the temple also administration as a post, it’s a kshatriya post. We may be head of the family you are ruler of the family you are king of the family. You are emperor of that little world of your own. So we could see how in those post that we have in that jurisdiction that we have of we could rule manage according to the expectation of the Akrura. He is on the mission Akrur’s mission in Hastinapur. But that’s not limited his mission could be or his advice could be implemented for all the time to come or present time also. Ok so we’ll I’ll stop here. Is there any question or comments?
Question: We must think big and teach others to think big in the Godly way. How do we make government understand that their thinking is nonsense?
We can go to media (Maharaj laughs….laughter) its nonsense is it on the internet is the president watching us right now? And ours is better while doing being more humble than the blade of grass. Or we still have to speak the truth; we will humbly present the truth. So just you know out of humility we don’t shut up we don’t, that’s not being proud to speak the truth. There is no pride in it false pride in it. So humility still humble statement this is the truth. Entering in like a needle coming out like a plow, needle small needle entering like a needle coming out like a plow. ‘Avajananti mam mudha manusim tanum asritum” (B.G 9.11) Lord is talking mudhas they are fools and rascals. Those who consider that I am yet another human like “manusim tanum asritum” my mind tanu my body is like human like, those who think like this are mudhas. “avajanati” they don’t know Lord is speaking the truth so people are dull headed to wake them up to shake them up sometimes these terms are used. What? They really wake up what! Nonsense you say.
(Maharaj is addressing the devotee who asked question) do you get it’s alright or there is some further clarification?
So loud thinking is we think like, ya high thinking like Krishna’s thinking so trying to get that across. “Jare dekho tare kaho Krishna upadesh” Krishna’s upadesh we have nothing to say, try to say on behalf of the Lord big thinking for the benefit of everybody. We may not be palatable every time it may not be sugaring of the pill. That’s another sugar the pill, medicine is bitter so there is some sugar coating on it. So when they initially taste oh! It tastes good so you go take that sugar coated bitter medicine. And so tongue welcomes it and it goes in and bitter medicine does its job. So we may give you some prasadam to the king first or invite him for lunch. So do some sugaring of the bitter advice. Ya so devotees may use that tact also to get the message across. Not always straight forward and there may be some time place or circumstances.
Any other statement? (Maharaj is asking)
Question: Liberation is sort of punishment? (Question by a devotee)
Ya “ bhukti mukti sidhi kami sakale ashant Krishna bhakt nishkam ata eva shant’. Ya so devotee, “kaivalyam narakayate” this is kaivalya mukti is also called kaivalya its worse than hell. There are some devotees don’t mind even if I go to hell, I am ready, even there I will remember you or serve you or try to maintain my Krishna consciousness, I will meet Yamaraj there, he is a devotee also maha bhagvat have some exchanges with them. But if I attain liberation then there is no scope to do that, because I’ll be put into illusion it’s a kind of illusion. Last snare of maya Prabhupada says, this liberation business is. Living entity is trying to imitate with the Lord or compete with the Lord so they first try to enjoy like Lord by bhukti bhukti kami by enjoying bhogas. When that does not work then they go for mukti kami- the liberation. Then they I was just hearing Prabhupad’s lecture the fox comes to the grape garden but the smart farmer has hung his grapes in a great height. So fox is jumping and jumping and jumping but not reaching grapes he is not able to grab the grapes he goes away. Oh! I never wanted those grapes they are sour who cares for those grapes. So condition soul first of all tries to enjoy tries to enjoy tries to enjoy if that doesn’t work when he gets kicks every time action reaction. Then he come to conclusion bramha sathya jagad mithya jagat is false, world is false, Brahman liberation is reality. So then he tries to merge identify with the brahman. I am brahmasmi. So all material existence or the falsity of this existence is described in two small words in Bhagvatam. One word is aham the other word is mama. Mama means mine this is all mine this is all mine “ishvaro aham” I am going to enjoy this is for me. When that does not work this mama part aspect then he goes for aham. Aham bramhasmi – I am Brahman. So Adavait just me and me alone. So there is no scope so that kills this liberation kills the spirit of devotion, for devotion and devotion unto somebody. There is another body, I am one body small one and there is Lord another one and there is devotion. I am bhakta Lord is Bhagavan and there is a flow the link between the two is Bhakti. Bhakti is a media for bhakta. Bhakta expresses his bhakti devotion unto the Lord. And that’s the life spiritual life Krishna conscious life. But liberation meant that’s the end of that devotion. It kills the spirit of that devotion, you are empty. That’s why Caitanya Mahaprabhu had to say do not hear this “mayavadi bhashya sunile hoile sarva nasha”. So mayavadis are they are after this liberation and by listening to their interpretation their understanding which is misunderstanding then hoila sarva nasha. Your spirit of devotion your devotional service you lose that spirit. So be aware mayavadi Krishna aparadhi.
Mayavadies are big offenders unto the lotus feet of the Lord. But they do not accept those lotus feet of the Lord. “Aruhya Krcchrena param padam tatah” (S.B 10.2.32) they try to go higher but they fall down these mayavadi impersonalist. They disrespect your lotus feet they disrespect your lotus feet my Lord that’s why they fall down they merge into brahman. Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu ki jai. So this is Caitanya Mahaprabhus contribution this devotional service this bhakti, after shankaracharya who propagated this “sarvam khalu idam bramha” and then vaishnav acharya appeared then finally Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu appeared to establish this devotional service unto the Lord.
Ok let’s stop (some devotee asks question.. Maharaj says) this is Mahabhaaarat (Maharaj laughs) Quite intricate Shantanu and mother Ganga. Vichitravirya and there were more 2 brothers Chitrangada. Chitrangada was battling in the same Kurukshetra before the battle of kurukshetra he died so that the remaining one was Vichitravirya and then so he had he was married to Ambika and Ambalika and there was one made servant also third one and Vichitravirya. So one brother chitrangada was already killed in the battle and Vichitravirya he had some disease he developed and he also died so the dynasty had to be continued so the Satyavati right? So Parashra muni while he was going on a boat the boating was done by Satyavati and the union between the two and Srila Vyasadev was born, but this was kind of illegal illicit. She abandoned Vyasadev and nothing, but he had said mother if you need help anytime in future please just remember me I may be of some help some assistance to you. So then Satyavati remembered what could I do, so Ambika Ambalika they were there but no children husband no more. The dynasty has to continue so could you do something and then he obliged he did. So there were different reaction Vyasadev had a union with this three two wives of Vichitravirya. One wife she couldn’t just stand it Srila Vyasadev is not very beautiful so as he approached she closed her eyes at the time conception. And the child was born blind Dhritarashtra. The other wife’s reaction was she became pale her body lustres. She lost the lustres of her body as Srila Vyasadev approached. And the son was born Pandu. Pandu meaning the complexion was pale complexion. So these were the two official wives of Vichitravirya Ambika and Ambalika there was the third one the maid servant and it was ok with her no reactions normal for her. And the child was born beautiful and very intelligent and that was Vidura. You know Dhritarashtra and Pandu are born from official wives of Vichitravirya so they continued one of them as we explained earlier Pandu I think he was elder or because he was not blind or maybe Dhritarashtra was elder but because he was blind so he doesn’t become the king and Pandu become the king and Vidura although Vyasadev had given birth to Vidura also but he was not of the two official wives of Vichitravirya so he could not claim the throne. So that’s the history of Mahabharat. Ok. Alright Radha Golokanand ki Jai.. ..
Jagannath Baladev Subhadra Ki Jai..
Granthraj Srimad Bhagvatam ki jai..
Srila Prabhupada ki jai..
Gaur premanande hari hari bol..

 




Krishna the Judge above all judges

Venue: Germany Bhavat Saptha (Ajamil Katha series – Seventh Session)

We are in the beginning of 3rd chapter of the 6th canto, Ajamil has already gone back to Godhead, that’s good news (Maharaj laughs) by hearing story of Ajamil you felt inspired and blessed. (Maharaj says correlating with the last session the sixth and addressing the devotees) The tree crash Maharaj is making the connection; yesterday as we are describing Ajamil’s departure for the spiritual sky, big-bang crash was there. So like that you will be sending all the tress one by one. Yes these trees are not ordinary trees here. Very fortunate! Trees and the peacock and the deer and specially all of you very special souls – residents of ‘Goloka Dham’. You don’t have to go anywhere just stay here. Ok we have quite a big ground to cover here. We have about half of chapter half of 3rd chapter for now and the other half of this for the final session. Rajo uvacha that is king Pariksit said, in fact enquired

“nisamya devah sva-bhatopavarnitam pratyaha kim tan api dharmarajah
evam hatajno vihatan murarer naidesikair yasya vase jano yam “ (S.B. 6.3.1)

He would like to know ‘nisamya devah sva-bhatopavarnitam’ this demigod Yamaraja heard ‘sva-bhatopavarnitam’ Bhatah – servant, Yamaraja’s servants, his own servant’s “varnitam” whole reporting, whole description of their first hand experience what just happened up there, must be up-there because they went down there. so from up there what just happened ‘pratyaha kim tan api dharmarajah’ after hearing the report and specially report of ‘evam hatajno’ that his order Yamaraja’s order while being executed that order was foiled was nullified and his dutas his representatives were defeated.

And this was done by ‘murarer naidesikair’ this was done by Muraris, Murari the killer of Mura demon, His order carriers defeated and foiled the attempt of bringing Ajamil to hellish planet. So while all the reporting was done to Yamaraja, What did he have to say? Right! Question is clear? This is King Pariksit is asking for our benefit. Ok he is curious wants to know more. Ok Ajamil went back home what happened to capital of Yamaraja please tell? Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura says although the statements of the Yamadutas were fully upheld by Vedic principles, the statements of the Visnudutas were triumphant. This was confirmed by Yamaraja himself (now he will be doing that). Although the statements of the Yamadutas were fully upheld by Vedic principles they have spoken kind of truth, still the Visnudutas were triumphant. They were victorious, they had the upper hand.
“yamasya devasya na danda-bhangah kutascanarse sruta-purva asit”(S.B. 6.3.2)

And King Pariksit further states that the order of Yamaraja and they were defeated. They were foiled ‘kutascanarse sruta-purva’ we never ever heard such a thing, this never happened. First time ever we are hearing such an unprecedented news.

“etan mune vrscati loka-samsayam”(S.B. 6.3.2)

And this certainly has caused the doubt in my mind and certainly “loka-samsayam” lot of people must have similar doubt right now, they must be doubting, wondering.

“na hi tvad-anya iti me viniscitam”(S.B. 6.3.2)

And I personally don’t think anyone else competent to show some light on this matter. Clarify this issue no one other than you. O! Shuka Muni, could eradiate this doubt “vrscati loka-samsayam” no one else could do, only you. Hence, I am approaching you please clarify.
O great sage, never before has it been heard anywhere that an order of Yamaraja has been baffled. Therefore I think that people will have doubts about this that no one but you can eradicate. Since that is my firm conviction, kindly explain the reasons for these events.

sri-suka uvaca
“bhagavat-purusai rajan yamyah pratihatodyamah
patim vijnapayam asur yamam samyamani-patim”(S.B. 6.3.3)

Yes! Rajan my dear king ‘bhagavat-purusai rajan’ the purusah the people of Bhagavat the Supreme Personality of Godhead the four handed Vishnudutas ‘yamyah pratihatodyamah’ when Vishnudutah had defeated the people, the servant of Yamadutas, they went straight to ‘samyamani-patim’ Samyamani the capital of Yamaraja. As Amravati is capital of Indra, so samyamani-patim ‘pati’ the master of his capital and ‘patim’ also ‘patim’ has come twice. ‘patim’ is also master of so many living entities. So after reaching capital and approaching their ‘pati’ the master Yamaraja ‘vijnapayam asur’ they informed him this.

And next text number four “yamadutu ucuh” Yamadutas spoke like this, these questions they raised, question number one this is how they begin,

“kati santiha sastaro jiva-lokasya vai prabho
trai-vidhyam kurvatah karm phalabhivyakti-hetavah” (S.B. 6.3.4)


‘kati’ how many ‘santiha’ there are ‘sastaro’ the controllers. How many controllers are there? What’s going on? How many controllers are there? ‘jiva-lokasya vai prabho’ our prabhu our master ‘jiva-lokasya’ this plents where human beings reside. How many? How many controllers are there? ‘trai-vidhyam kurvatah karm’ and how many causes of the manifestation? ‘trai-vidhyam kurvatah karm’ the living entity is in ‘jivlokah’ in the human beings planet they perform activities as per sattva, rajo, tamo ‘trai-vidhyam kurvatah karm’ so the manifestation of the result, how many causes are there of that result. How many causes responsible for manifesting various results of activities performed under three modes of material nature? We will understand this better as we read the purport.

Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura says that the Yamadutas, the order carriers of Yamaraja, were so disappointed that they asked their master, almost in great anger, whether there were many masters other than him. Furthermore, because the Yamadutas had been defeated and their master could not protect them, they were inclined to say that there was no need to serve such a master. If a servant cannot carry out the orders of his master without being defeated, what is the use of serving such a powerless master? Who would like to serve? So they are seeing one master here they were thinking he was the one but does not look like, hence the question ‘kati’ how many are there? How many masters are there? They continued their reporting and presentation and questions.

<strong>“yadi syur bahavo loke sastaro danda-dharinah
kasya syatam na va kasya mrtyus camrtam eva va” (S.B. 6.3.5)

And if there are ‘yadi’ if there are ‘bahavo’ many ‘sastaro danda-dharinah’ the controllers and the persons responsible for taking decisions and punishing the culprit then ‘kasya syatam na va kasya mrtyus camrtam eva va’. Either more than one according to Yamadutas they think that will create lot of difficulties. You need only two or two parties so many in each party or just one in each party, then translation says it very clearly lets go for that. ‘If in this universe there are many rulers and justices who disagree about punishment and reward, their contradictory actions will neutralize each other’. Two judges are fighting with each other and their judgment may get neutralize and no one will be punished in the process or rewarded. That’s one scenario otherwise if there are contradictory acts failed to neutralize each other then everyone has to be both punished and rewarded. Like if there are two temple authorities and they are fighting over a bhakta one says, ”no no he should stay.” other one says, ”Out ! My way or the highway”. (You heard of that) My way or Highway. So if they are fighting if actions will neutralize each other of these two authorities then neither stay, no decision, neither stay nor leaving. But if their act fail to neutralize each other of the two ISKCON authorities then that bhakta will have to go and stay it’s quite confusion to understand it’s quite confusion.

So because the Yamadutas had been unsuccessful in carrying out the order of Yamaraja, they doubted whether Yamaraja actually had the power to punish the sinful. Although they had gone to arrest Ajamila, following Yamaraja’s order, they found themselves unsuccessful because of the order of some higher authority. Therefore they were unsure of whether there are many authorities or only one. If there are many authorities who gave different judgments, which could be contradictory, a person might be wrongly punished or wrongly rewarded, or he might be neither punished nor rewarded. According to our experience in the material world, a person punished in one court may appeal to another. Thus the same man may be either punished or rewarded according to different judgments. However, in the law of nature or the court of the Supreme Personality of Godhead there cannot be such contradictory judgments. The judges and their judgments must be perfect and free from contradictions. Actually the position of Yamaraja was very awkward in the case of Ajamila because the Yamadutas were right in attempting to arrest Ajamila, but the Visnudutas had baffled them. Although Yamaraja, under these circumstances, was accused by both the Visnudutas and the Yamadutas, he is perfect in administering justice because he is empowered by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Therefore he will explain what his real position is and how everyone is controlled by the Supreme controller, the Personality of Godhead.

Even his judgment was right according to him but now he is going to explain that its “not just me, you know, there is some other than me and that was his decision so I am helpless”. And this will clarify the doubt of his servants. Because they always thought he was only one no one equal to him, no one above him. But now their boss, their master is going to reveal unto them about no..no that’s not the case! This was my decision but my boss intervened and Vishnudas were there and that is perfectly all right with me.

“kintu sastr-bahutve syad bahunam iha karminam
sastrtvam upacaro hi yatha mandala-vartinam”(S.B. 6.3.6)

So Yamadutas they are thinking fine there could be more than one judge, different judges but there should be one judge above all the different judges. They are thinking that would be appropriate. ‘mandala-vartinam’ since there are many different karmis, or workers, there may be different judges or rulers to give them justice, but as one central emperor controls different departmental rulers, there must be one supreme controller to guide all the judges. And there is one which they don’t know or they thought they knew they were thinking that was Yamaraja but that’s not the case. Yamaraja is going to correct them. Yes! Yes! Such is the arrangement. There are so many controllers I am just one of them and there is one supreme above all of us.

Prabhupada writes, in governmental management there may be departmental officials to give justice to different persons, but the law must be one, and that central law must control everyone. Yamadutas could not imagine that two judges would give two different verdicts in the same case, and therefore they wanted to know who the central judge is. Yamadutas were certain that Ajamila was a most sinful man, but although Yamaraja wanted to punish him, the Visnudutas excused him. This was a puzzling situation that the Yamadutas wanted Yamaraja to clarify.

“atas tvam eko bhutanam sesvaranam adhisvarah
sasta danda-dharo nrnam subhasubha-vivecanah” (S.B. 6.3.7)

So Yamadutas say we always thought ‘atas tvam eko bhutanam sesvaranam adhisvarah’ you are the only one ‘bhutanam sesvaranam adhisvarah’ of all living entities you are the only controller. ‘sasta danda-dharo’ – you have a danda, you have a rod meant for punishment and you are ‘subhasubha-vivecanah’ of all human beings ‘subhah’ pious ‘asubha’ impious activities you would take into consideration and discriminate and come to the judgment. And we thought that was you. You are only one ‘tvam eko bhutanam sesvaranam adhisvarah’. But so that was our understanding, we assumed that. But now they say

“tasya te vihito dando na loke vartatedhuna
caturbhir adbhutaih siddhair ajna te vipralambhita” (S.B. 6.3.8)

But from what we experienced today is something different, we were convinced that you are the one but now your orders ordained by you, some directions, some assignment ‘O..go bring that person to me’. ‘na loke vartatedhuna’ that doesn’t work anymore. Your order is not final; this is our experience, firsthand experience. We were just there and someone else came, sounded like they had came from another authority higher authority. So your orders are not final anymore. They are being foiled and defeated. And they say this was done we saw ‘caturbhir adbhutaih siddhair’ four persons came they were ‘adbhutaih’ they were amazing ‘siddhair’ they seem perfect personalities and they had another order contrary to yours and they surpassed ‘vipralambhita’. They surpassed your order and so we have come to conclusion that your rule doesn’t work anymore. And they further state couple of things before they give floor to Yamaraja to speak.

“niyamanam tavadesad asmabhir yatana-grhan
vyamocayan patakinam chittva pasan prasahya te” (S.B. 6.3.9)

‘niyamanam’ we are just bringing him to you this Ajamil and this was ‘tavadesad’ your order. We were bringing him into ‘yatana-grhan’ the torture chamber; we were bringing him to the capital samyamani and bringing him to the torture chamber. But ‘vyamocayan’ but they liberated this ‘patakinam’ this sinful person. As we had tied him with the rope, these ‘chaturbhih’, ‘adbhutaih’, ‘siddhaih’ those four persons came they were amazing, effulgence, powerful, authoritative and you know they just cut the rope ‘chittva’ they just cut the ropes ‘prasahya’ by force and we were helpless. We could do nothing we just had to come empty handed, leaving that most sinful wretched person behind. And now what they really are interested to know is this. ‘tan’ they are only thinking all the way to Yamaraja’s abode and while being there and they are only thinking and only thinking of the four persons. They couldn’t get them off out of their head and mind. Although they were out of sight they were on their mind, in their mind stuck. They looked very beautiful, powerful and

“tams te veditum icchamo yadi no manyase ksamam
narayanety abhihite ma bhair ity ayayur drutam” (S.B. 6.3.10)

So ‘veditum icchamo’ it is our desire to know. You want to know about them. ‘yadi no manyase ksamam’ and if you think we are competent or qualified, deserving candidates to know about these matters then only, of course its upto you. If you think we are fit and appropriate that we know this then please explain about those people. They wanted to say about those people what they did was. ‘narayanety abhihite’ as this person Ajamil he said Narayana..Narayana…Narayana, they came ‘ayayur drutam’ instantly they arrived.

As soon as this Ajamil said,“Narayana..Narayana..” they were there. ‘drutam’ they did not lose up a second. And upon their arrival they took the side of Ajamil and they said, “Do not be afraid! Do not be afraid! No fear we are here. Don’t be afraid” ‘Ma bhayshtah ma shudhad ma bhaya eti’ They were comforting him and they said, “Don’t be afraid. Do not fear”. So we want to know about these people and other matters that we have concerned and confused!. The order carriers of Yamaraja, being very much aggrieved because of their defeat by the four Visnudutas, wanted to bring them before Yamaraja and, if possible, punish them. Otherwise they desired to commit suicide (Maharaj laughs and says Prabhupada writing..) they were desiring to commit suicide. Before pursuing either course, however they wanted to know about the Visnudutas from Yamaraja, who is also omniscient. Yamaraja is all knower so he wanted to know this, so if he is not satisfied we are going to commit suicide. If its not explained to us or we are going to resign. Here is our letter of resignation, we resign here we find another master, job, the powerful one whose order we could follow and execute.

<strong>sri-badarayanir uvaca
“iti devah sa aprstah praja-samyamano yamah
pritah sva-dutan pratyaha smaran padambujam hareh” (S.B. 6.3.11)

Sukhdev Goswami is making comment ‘iti’ – like this ‘ aprstah’ – questioned when he was questioned ‘praja-samyamano yamah’ Yamaraja master of Samyamani when he was questioned like this ‘pritah’ he seemed very pleased ‘sva-dutan’ with his own dutas, his representatives, his order carriers he seemed very pleased with them and ‘pratyaha’ he spoke. He is now about to give the reply and he is replying how ‘smaran padambujam hareh’ Yamaraja their boss is not surprised or furious. ‘Eh! What? This happened? OK! Let’s go, I will also join you, I’m very much disturbed with these developments. My order is not final anymore someone else interfered’. So this wasn’t the response, he was not angry. That was their idea or their expectations. Yamadutas are expecting that when Yamaraja listens to this he will finally understand what we are talking about. He is going to be furious, he is going to take some action and he is going to back us up. But nothing of this sort instead they see smile on his face. He is smiling he is happy pleased with all this reporting and not only that he gets into some hey..What are you? What are you doing? He immediately gets into the, he is remembering someone, praying to somebody, his mood changes.
He goes internal his feelings and Sukadeva Gosvami says ‘smaran padambujam hareh’ while remembering the lotus feet of Hari, Yamaraj now wants to reply. Not just whimsically or first of all now is important task so it had to be accompanied by prayers and remembrance of Lord so that the judgments and his word would be full of truth, full of knowledge, he wants to connect with the source of knowledge and then he is now.

paro mad-anyo jagatas tasthusas ca otam protam patavad yatra visvam
yad-amsato sya sthiti-janma-nasa nasy otavad yasya vase ca lokah” (S.B. 6.3.12)

As soon as he begins to speak first thing Yamaraja says admits, “Yes..Yes ! I would like to make it very clear in my opening dialogue”. ‘paro mad-anyo jagatas’ Yes yes there is someone ‘anyo’ is another one above me, yes such person exists you had some doubt about this but I want to confirm, yes there is someone above me and He is all pervading, all powerful, He is everywhere filling up this universe. ‘otam protam pat’ Yamaraj says like in cloth there are some threads going this way ‘otam’, some threads are going that way ‘protam’. So threads are everywhere some this way that way throughout the cloth, there is thread. So using this example, my Lord my boss someone above me He is ‘otam protam’ like that, that is His position.

‘yad-amsato sya sthiti-janma-nasa’ and just His partial expansions they undertake big big tasks like creation of this entire cosmic manifestation ‘Sthiti, Janma, Nasa’ the creation, maintenance and destruction is just handled by His expansion. He doesn’t even take part in this. He is that powerful personality. And ‘nasy otavad yasya vase ca lokah’ like a big powerful bull or oxen is controlled by pulling ‘nasy’ rope through nostrils, the plough-man could easily control the bulls just handling the rope. Likewise, ‘yasya vase ca lokah’ all the planets and their controllers like we have this rope in our nose and ropes are in His hands, He is the boss and we are just pets, like oxen that is just to turn this way turn that way.
Yamdutas suspects there was a ruler even above the Yamaraja, to eradicate their doubts Yamaraja immediately replied, “Yes! There is one supreme controller above everything”. Yamaraja is in charge of some of living entities namely human beings but animals who also move are not under the control not under his control. Only human beings have consciousness of right or wrong. And among them only those who perform sinful activities come under the control of Yamaraja. Therefore although Yamaraja is a controller, he is only the departmental controller of few living entities. There are other demigods who control many other departments. But above them is one Supreme controller Krishna. ‘isvarah paramah krsnah sac-cid-ananda-vigrahah anadir adir govindah sarva-karana-karanam’ (Bs 5.1) The Supreme controller is Krishna and Prabhupada is quoting Bhagvad-Gita- ‘mattah parataram nanyat kincid asti dhananjaya’ (B.G. 7.7) no one superior no one equal and like that.

‘aham mahendro’ ‘aham’ he is giving whole list, myself, ‘mahendro’ there is Indra, ‘nirrtih’ name of demigod, ‘Varuna’ controller of water, ‘pracetah’, ‘somo’ – moon ‘agnih’ that’s fire ‘isah’ – Shiva ‘pavanah’ – incharge of air [Pavan Pavansut Hanuman], ‘virincih’ – Brahma, ‘aditya’

aham mahendro nirrtih pracetah somo gnir isah pavano virincih
aditya-visve vasavo tha sadhya marud-gana rudra-ganah sasiddhah
anye ca ye visva-srjo maresa bhrgv-adayo sprsta-rajas-tamaskah
yasyehitam na viduh sprsta-mayah sattva-pradhana api kim tato nye” (S.B. 6.3.14-15)

He is giving whole big list but not complete of course. Complete list would have 33 crores, 330 millions demigods. He is saying all of us and that ‘na viduh sprsta-mayah’ we just don’t know Him fully well. He says some of us ‘sattva-pradhana’, some of us demigods are predominantly in mode of goodness but there are ‘upadevas’ the sub-demigods and there are other upadevas. And we have difficulty understanding Him. ‘api kim tato nye’ then what to speak of others? Even ‘sattva-pradhana’ like myself and several others have difficulty understanding. We cannot understand ‘na viduh’. His activities we cannot understand we just get bewildered and then we just don’t know Him fully well. ‘yasyantam na viduh surasura-gana devaya tasmai namah’ (SB 12.13.1).

And at end of Bhagvatam says, that Lord who is glorified ‘yam brahma varunendra-rudra-marutah stunvanti divyaih stavair’ (SB 12.13.1) that Lord who is glorified by Brahma, Varun, Indra, Rudra, Marut ‘stunvanti’ they praise Him ‘stunvanti divyaih stavair’ –like uttamsloka the choicest poetry, Mantras, Stutis, they employ they use to glorify the Lord ‘gayanti yam sama-gah’ and then there so many sastras ‘vedaih sanga kramopanisadair gayanti yam sama-gah’ and all the vedas, puranas, Upanishad they all ‘gayanti’ they are singing the glories of the Lord, chanting the glories of the Lord this is second thing. Third thing is ‘dhyanavasthita-tad-gatena manasa pasyanti yam yogino’ and Lord is glorified by the demigods, Lord is glorified throughout all scriptures and that Lord whom yogis are trying to capture within their heart or meditate upon Him within their hearts. ‘dhyanavasthita-tad-gatena manasa pasyanti yam yogino’ ‘manasa pasyanti yam’ with their minds ‘pasyanti’ visualize or with the transcendental vision they see Him within the heart. So that Lord ‘yasyantam na viduh’ this kind of Lord His ‘antam’ His end is not known to anybody that is why He is known as ‘Ananta anantsesa’ He is unlimited. ‘yasyantam na viduh’ Who do not know? ‘surasura-gana’. Of course! Demons do not know but even demigods do not know. ‘surasura-gana na jananti na viduh’ they do not know so same thing has being stated here by Yamaraja that we know Him something, somewhat but we don’t know Him fully and we are ‘sattva-pradhana’ and this is then what to speak of so many others, other demigods, what to speak of human beings and what to speak of Germans, Europeans and all those people in Los Vegas (Laughter).

Even those in mode of Goodness like many demigods and great rishis described in these verses cannot understand activities of Supreme personality of Godhead. There Prabhupada further clarifies in the purport. Prabhupada is also quoting Bhagvatam verse, “Oh! King!” Yudhisthira Maharaj stated by Bhismadeva to Yudhisthira Maharaj in first canto. “O! King, no one can know the plan of the Lord Sri Krishna. Even though great philosophers inquire an inquire exhaustively, they are bewildered.” (S.B. 1.9.16) and like that. And the next

“yam vai na gobhir manasasubhir va hrda gira vasu-bhrto vicaksate
atmanam antar-hrdi santam atmanam caksur yathaivakrtayas tatah param” (S.B. 6.3.16)

Translation -As the different limbs of the body cannot see the eyes, the living entities cannot see the Supreme Lord, who is situated as the Supersoul in everyone’s heart. Not by the senses, by the mind, by the life air, by thoughts within the heart, or by the vibration of words can the living entities ascertain the real situation of the Supreme Lord.

Purport – Prabhupada writes, although the different parts of the body do not have the power to see the eyes, the eyes direct the movements of the body’s different parts. The legs move forward because the eyes see what is in front of them, and the hand touches because the eyes see touchable entities. Similarly, every living being acts according to the direction of the Supersoul, who is situated within the heart. Eyes are directing all the wondering all the wondering of different limbs and body. Hand is working, feet are working because eyes are directing, eyes are seeing. So likewise living entities are like the limbs and Lord is like the eyes. So Lord shows then living entity moves makes move. So controlled like that.

“tasyatma-tantrasya harer adhisituh parasya mayadhipater mahatmanah
prayena duta iha vai manoharas caranti tad-rupa-guna-svabhava”
(S.B. 6.3.17)

So now after mentioning that Lord, Yamaraja wants to say something about the Vishnudutas because that was there…it was very much bothering and they wanted to know about those. So those Vishnudutas so Yamaraja says :

tasyatma-tantrasya harer adhisituh parasya mayadhipater mahatmanah’

“First of all you know their boss, Vishnudutas’ boss is just ‘atma-tantrasya’ He is just independent and no one above Him and it is self sufficient and fully independent and He has powers ‘mayadhipater’ He is adhipati of maya whole cosmic creation and like that ‘harer adhisituh’. He is just controller of Master of everything. He is master of illusionary energy. He is ‘mahatmanah’, He is supersoul ‘mahatmanah’. This is called ‘mahatmanah’, ‘Mahatma’ is living entity but here ‘mahatmanah’ is supersoul and you know this Vishnudutas that you enquired about. They are His dutas, they are His people, they are His representatives so certainly they are also independently powerful and ‘prayena duta iha vai manoharas’ they are very beautiful. My Lord is beautiful so they are also beautiful. Like father like son. If parents are beautiful then children are also beautiful. So my Lord is beautiful so His servants are beautiful but you are not so beautiful..look at in mirror you are not beautiful but ‘caranti’ and they are always wondering Vishnudutas are always wondering and they are empowered by such a Lord Supreme controller independently powerful. Lord has empowered them so His powers are also in them. But you are my representatives but I could invest as much power as I have. My powers in another word are limited. Do you understand now? My dear children.

He addressed them as Putra- so children do you understand? So Vishnudutas, Vishnu is their boss and I just described Him ‘yasyehitam na viduh’ there is no beginning, end and even I can’t understand Him fully. So they are His servants His representatives and you are my, I’m limited. I have limited powers so only that much power I could invest in you. And my Lord is ‘rupa-guna-svabhavah’ Lord has form, qualities and activities. Yaa! He is not impersonal He has personality. Yamaraja describing the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the Supreme controller. But the order carriers of Yamaraja were very eager to know about the vishnudutas who had defeated them in their counter with Ajamil.

Yamaraja therefore stated that Visnudutas resemble the Supreme Personality of Godhead in their bodily features, transcendental qualities and nature. They resemble because Lord has form, Lord has quality, personality and beauty. So they are resembled ‘tad-rupa’ like He has like Lord has likewise His representatives almost has similar qualities, beauty, personality and power. Yamaraja therefore stated that Visnudutas resemble the Supreme Personality of Godhead in their bodily features, transcendental qualities and nature. In other words, the Visnudutas, or Vaisnavas, are almost as qualified as the Supreme Lord. Yamaraja informed the Yamadutas that the Visnudutas are no less powerful than Lord Visnu. Since Visnu is above Yamaraja, the Visnudutas are above the Yamadutas. Persons protected by the Visnudutas, therefore, cannot be touched by the Yamadutas.

“bhutani visnoh sura-pujitani durdarsa-lingani mahadbhutani
raksanti tad-bhaktimatah parebhyo mattas ca martyan atha sarvatas ca”(S.B. 6.3.18)

Translation: The order carriers of Lord Visnu, who are worshiped even by the demigods, possess wonderful bodily features exactly like those of Visnu and are very rarely seen. The Visnudutas protect the devotees of the Lord from the hands of enemies, from envious persons and even from my jurisdiction, as well as from natural disturbances. Yamaraja is concluding. Prabhupada writes in purport Yamaraja has specifically described the qualities of the Visnudutas to convince his own servants not to be envious of them. Yamaraja warned the Yamadutas that the Visnudutas are worshiped with respectful obeisance’s by the demigods and are always alert to protect the devotees of the Lord from the hands of enemies, from natural disturbances and from all dangerous conditions in this material world. Sometimes the members of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness are afraid of the impending danger of world war. During Prabhupada’s time such was situation there (Maharaj says I know in Narsingh shetra devotees were making bombproof shelter in Germany. So I was told I was visiting soon after they attempted that). So there such a scare was there, the world was scared and so were the devotees. So they would bring this up to Prabhupada, their concerned. So this purport must have written around that time, so it’s just including devotees were afraid of impeding danger of world war and ask what would happen to them if war should occur? Prabhupada replied in all kinds of danger, they should be confident of their protection by the Visnudutas or the Supreme Personality of Godhead, as confirmed in Bhagavad-gita ‘kaunteya pratijanihi na me bhaktah pranashyati'(B.G. 9.31). If you recite this many times you will be convinced that His devotees never perish. Material danger is not meant for devotees, this is also confirmed in Srimad-Bhagavatam. ‘Padam padam yad vipadam na tesam’ (S.B. 10.14.58) in this material world there are dangers at every step, but they are not meant for devotees who have fully surrendered unto the lotus feet of the Lord. The pure devotees of Lord Visnu may rest assured that Lord’s protection, and as long as they are in this material world they should fully engage in devotional service by preaching the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Lord Krishna, namely the Hare Krishna movement of Krishna consciousness. So not to worry about the war just stay busy preaching the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Lord Krishna. This is text no. 18th of Chapter 3, 6.3.18 and this is our today’s last verse, this morning last verse. ‘Dharmam’ and first part Prabhupada quoted this word hundreds and hundreds of time. As you hear his lecture tapes you will hear ‘dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam’ there are three more lines but this verse this part he had always quoted most

“dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam na vai vidur rsayo napi devah
na siddha-mukhya asura manusyah kuto nu vidyadhara-caranadayah” (S.B. 6.3.19)

Real religious principles are enacted by Supreme Personality of Godhead that’s the meaning of this first line. ‘dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam’ that again real religious principles are enacted by Supreme Personality of Godhead. So much manufacturing goes in this world, so many religions has come into existence. So many religious principles so called religious principles which most of them just concoction just mere speculation and like that. So to defeat all these attempts and condemn them Prabhupada always quote this verse. No no! Religion cannot be manmade or some organization made it has to be God made and God enacted. ‘dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam’ that was his mantra.

‘dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam’ Lord is behind religion. The religion- dharma is creation of Lord and not concoction of some human being or demigod or no one else. Just one person and that’s Lord who is creator, enactor, designer of Dharma. The whole Bhagvad-Gita is dharma, given by Lord. The first word of Bhagvad- Gita is what? ‘Dharma’. The first word of Bhagvad-Gita is Dharma. First Chapter first text

<strong>’dharma-ksetre kuru-ksetre samaveta yuyutsavah mamakah pandavas caiva kim akurvata sanjaya” (B.G. 1.1)

The first word is Dharma and last word is 18th Chapter text number 78, is that 78? Last word is..Hurry up! Hurry up! Prabhupada would ask for references the disciple would quickly…..’mama’ Ok! So first word is ‘Dharma’, last word is ‘mama’. ‘mama’ means mine. So this whole Bhagvad-Gita is my Dharma. Given by me ‘Dharma mama..mama dharma’ whole thing is ‘mama dharma’. Gita is ‘Dharma’ the laws of Lord. Prabhupada defines ‘Dharma’ is laws of Lord, this is Bhagvad-Gita. ‘mama-dharma’ ‘Dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam’.

Translation – Real religious principles are enacted by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Although fully situated in the mode of goodness, even the great rishis who occupy the topmost planets cannot ascertain the real religious principles, nor can the demigods or the leaders of Siddhaloka, to say nothing of the asuras, ordinary human beings, Vidyadharas and Caranas. So Lord has all these parties no they can’t they can’t enact the religious principle, they can’t create. No demigod, no siddas, no vidyadharas, no human being also ‘manusyah asura siddha munyah devah rushyah’ na na you have to add na before everybody it is already there (repeat). ‘na siddha na asurah na manusyah’ they cannot. Only ‘dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam’ that’s all. Only Him is competent, Dharma is already there, you don’t have to create another one. Why take trouble? Why duplicate?

Purport: When challenged by the Visnudutas to describe the principles of religion, the Yamadutas said, veda-pranihito dharmah: the religious principles are the principles enacted in the Vedic literature. They did not know, however, that the Vedic literature contains ritualistic ceremonies that are not transcendental, but are meant to keep peace and order among materialistic persons in the material world.

So what they had said was correct but that ritualistic ceremony mentioned in Vedas and Prabhupada says they are not transcendental ritualistic ideas, proposals are not transcendental but still they had function/role to play in materialistic society to keep the society peaceful those things are emplaced. Real religious principles are nistraigunya, above the three modes of material nature, or transcendental. The Yamadutas did not know these transcendental religious principles, and therefore when prevented from arresting Ajamila they were surprised. Materialistic persons who attach all their faith to the Vedic rituals are described in Bhagavad-gita (2.42), where in Krishna says, ‘veda-vada-ratah partha nanyad astiti vadinah’ the supposed followers of the Vedas say that there is nothing beyond the Vedic ceremonies. Indeed, there is a group of men in India who are very fond of the Vedic rituals, not understanding the meaning of these rituals, which are intended to elevate one gradually to the transcendental platform of knowing Krishna ‘vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyah'(B.G. 15.15). Those who do not know this principle but who simply attach their faith to the Vedic rituals are called veda-vada-ratah.

Here in it is stated that the real religious principle is that which is given by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. That principle is stated in Bhagavad-gita. ‘Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja’ (not vrajaa..vraja). There are three ways you could say vraj, vraja, vrajaa. Some words are without ‘a’ ‘halant’, some are with a and some are with two ‘a’s. ‘rajan’ when you say ‘rajan’ there is no ‘a’. When you spell ‘rajan’ means king..O! king! ‘rajan’ it is without ‘a’ like that devotees also word ‘Rama’ they two ways ‘Hare Ram’ [correct pronunciation as far as our another project] so ‘mam ekam saranam vraja’ (not vraj). One should give up all other duties and surrender unto the lotus feet of Krishna. That is the real religious principle everyone should follow. Even though one follows Vedic scriptures, one may not know this transcendental principle, for it is not known to everyone. To say nothing of human beings, even the demigods in the upper planetary systems are unaware of it. This transcendental religious principle must be understood from the Supreme Personality of Godhead directly or from His special representative, as stated in the next verses.
And that will be stated at 11 o’ clock. So we are halfway through this 3rd chapter of 6th canto and Yamaraja will continue his pravachan, his talk, his dialogue, his conversation with his dutas and he is authority big authority he is. He is one of those twelve persons they know everything. So we will hear rest of the presentation by Yamaraja this mid-day.




The Second chance

Venue: Germany Bhagvat saptha (Ajamil Katha series – Sixth session)
The Yamadutas left and then some time for Ajamila to have a nice darshan of Vishnudutas and he was developing some desire to have a word with them, talk to them but that didn’t work out, they disappeared and the reason has been stated in the purports that, so that he could think that he is left by himself, first of all he will feel separation also from Vishnudutas, he had a nice association, nice advice, therein great service to Ajamila. So by disappearing, Vishnudutas disappearing, they were thinking that Ajamila would think separation from them also and he would regret more nicely, more badly, you know, go deeper and think bad of, for what he had done in the past and so that’s what is happening here. This is 6th canto, chapter 2 text no. 26 onwards. And we have, we go to the end of the chapter 2 then we’ll have chapter 3, that’s tomorrow.

“aho me paramam kastam abhud avijitatmanah
yena viplavitam brahma vrsalyam jayatatmana” (S.B 6.2.26)


‘Paramam kastam’ – oh! What an extreme miserable condition I have been put through, paramam kastam, Oh! what a hellish life that was and this is all because of avijitatmanah – my uncontrolled senses. Then with that my uncontrolled mind and not very chaste and sharp intelligence, ‘yena viplavitam brahma vrsalyam jayatatmana’ – I lost all my brahmanical culture vrsalyam and this was because I ‘samsarva dushitah’- because I came in contact with this low class, 4th class Prabhupada has said, prostitute and ‘jayatatmana’ – and I went on producing children and then of course for maintaining them, I used all sorts of means to make money and spend money on them, Oh! what a life!

Purport – The men of the higher classes — the brahmanas, ksatriyas and vaisyas — do not beget children in the wombs of lower-class women. Therefore the custom in Vedic society is to examine the horoscopes of a girl and boy being considered for marriage to see whether their combination is suitable. Vedic astrology reveals whether one has been born in the vipra-varna, ksatriya-varna, vaisya-varna or sudra-varna, according to the three qualities of material nature. This must be examined because the marriage between a boy of the vipra-varna and a girl of the sudra-varna is incompatible; do they consider these things in the west? (Maharaj asking devotes). The married life would be miserable for both husband and wife if the compatibility is not there. Consequently a boy should marry a girl of the same category. Of course, this is trai-gunya, a material calculation according to the Vedas, but if the boy and girl are devotees there need be no such considerations. A devotee is transcendental, and therefore in a marriage between devotees, the boy and girl form a very happy combination. Yes? They have experienced, there are other many happy combinations, so many are not also for different reasons.

“dhin mam vigarhitam sadbhir duskrtam kula-kajjalam
hitva balam satim yo ham sura-pim asatim agam” (S.B 6.2.27)


Dhin mam – hell with myself, I condemn myself, vigarhitam sadbhir, duskrtam – one who has committed sinful acts, kula-kajjalam – and I gave all the bad name to my dynasty, defamed my family tradition, hitva balam satim – I gave up that young chaste wife who was a daughter of a saintly brahmin, I gave her up, I went for sura-pim wife who was accustomed to drink wine all the time, she was a drunkard and ‘asatim’ – not chaste at all, and I had ‘agam’ – I had intercourse with such 4th class woman, prostitute. This is a mentality of one who is becoming a pure devotee. When one is elevated to the platform of devotional service by the grace of the Lord and the spiritual master, one first regrets his past sinful activities. This helps one advance in spiritual life. The Vishnudutas had given Ajamila the chance to become a pure devotee, and the duty of a pure devotee is to regret his past sinful activities in illicit sex, intoxication, meat-eating and gambling. Not only should one give up his past bad habits, but he must always regret his past sinful acts. This is the standard of pure devotion.

Ya, so many devotees of Indian background, many of them ladies or elderly ladies, at time of initiation, they take vow, no intoxication, no meat eating, no gambling. Some of them, they don’t even know what the gambling is? The word intoxication they had was may be tea, they don’t know, the drug thing, they don’t even know what the drugs are and, but they say I take vow, no intoxication, no illicit sex, no gambling, no meat eating. So how they are going to regret for the past sinful acts? May be pervious life. So there were many personalities, devotees, candidates. Clean life from very beginning, meat eating they never touched no meat no fish no eggs, so many families no onion, no garlic, this is the standard, so many families. So many restaurants without onion garlic. Recently, last month, railway minister ordered, there’s a precision for Shiva bhaktas, they go on a pilgrimage, thousands and thousands of them, they walk or they take train, some walk. So railway minister ordered that all the food the railway cooks, atleast there should be food available which has no onion, no garlic, orders from the railway ministry sent circular all over the country in the region where Shiva bhaktas are going to be walking. They normally, so most of them eat normally onion garlic but at this particular pilgrimage time they refrain from that. So their considerations are like that in India.

But on the Indian airlines they still, they even ask Swamiji what you would like, non-veg or veg? They don’t think stereotype although they have a kumkum, big bindi there. We know they are from Hindu family, they should be knowing. Mechanically they just ask, they ask swamiji whether you will have chicken or turkey? (Laughter) Either this was bad just when they ask veg or non-veg. Even that was sufficiently bad (Maharaj laughs) other lines, which kind of non-veg do you like? Fully choice between this non-veg or that non-veg; no other choice. But in 75-76, devotees flew to mayapur, full plane load of devotees and they were ordering prasadam and kachoris’ sweets from new Vrindavan. Then they used the public address announcement system to say the prayers “maha prasade govinde” and they were exchanging prasadam from different temples, London temple was sharing with other temple they had planned you all have to come with prasad, so devotees were carrying tones of prasad. Once they had a prasadam served honored and devotees felt like doing kirtan, they had many mridangas, Balaram mridangas they had plastic mridangas they are newly made for first time, devotees were carrying them. So the devotees gathered in between rows of seats and they started kirtan (Maharaj laughs) they were jumping up so the captain was having difficulty maintaining (Maharaj laughs) so the plane was shaking and so he had to order them, hey! Stop it sit down, for security reason you should tighten your belts now. So in future when most of the travelers would be devotees and travelling for preaching purpose only at pilgrimage it will be more maha prasade govinde.

vrddhav anathau pitarau nanya-bandhu tapasvinau
aho mayadhuna tyaktav akrtajnena nicavat” (S.B 6.2.28)

He was also regretting, you know my parents – ‘pitarau’ they were old and they had no one to look after, no nanya-bandhu – no friends and they were very simple and very austere people but nicavat – I was so low class that I just abandoned them ungratefully. Oh! How I could have done this? So there is point to regret also, so he is regretting. According to Vedic civilization, everyone has the responsibility for taking care of brahmanas, old men, women, children and the cows. This is the duty of everyone, especially an upper-class person. Because of his association with a prostitute, Ajamila abandoned all his duties. Regretting this, Ajamila now considered himself quite fallen.

so ham vyaktam patisyami narake bhrsa-darune
dharma-ghnah kamino yatra vindanti yama-yatanah” (
S.B 6.2.29)

Oh! It is now clear certainly I will ‘patisyami’ – I will fall down, I will have to enter narake – in the hell, bhrsa-darune – most miserable situation I will have to enter into, dharma-ghnah kamino – I broke all the religious principles by associating myself with that lusty, too lusty woman – kamino. So now I will have to undergo yama-yatanah – miserable conditions imposed by Yamaraja. So this is my future now.

“kim idam svapna aho svit saksad drstam mahadbhutam
kva yata adya te ye mam vyakarsan pasa-panayah” (S.B 6.2.30)

Kim idam svapna – Oh what I just saw was that a dream or saksad – or was it a reality directly, it was such a amazing thing what I has just seen in kva yata – where did they go? adya te ye mam vyakarsan pasa-panayah – just now they are dragging me with the ropes tied to my neck, they were dragging me with the ropes, where did they go?. “atha te kva gatah siddhas catvaras caru-darsanah” (S.B. 6.2.31) And what about those other four persons? Oh they were very effulgent, beautiful they were. Infact by their mercy, vyamocayan niyamanam – myself I was being dragged and dragged down to the hellish conditions but those four perfect persons they saved me, they rescued me, ‘baddhva pasair adho bhuvah’ – with the ropes they had tied me and they were taking me down downwards but these four persons they rescued me.

Purport – As we have learned from the descriptions in the Fifth Canto, the hellish planets are situated in the lower portions of this universe. Therefore they are called adho bhuvah. In this verse they have been described as ‘adho’, adho means down. Ajamila could understand that the Yamadutas had come from that region.

<strong>”athapi me durbhagasya vibudhottama-darsane
bhavitavyam mangalena yenatma me prasidati” (S.B 6.2.32)

Therefore although very very unfortunate, low born and misbehaved as I was, those intelligent exalted personalities devotees four of them bhavitavyam mangalena – they did something good for me, they changed the whole direction, they revolutionalised my life, my consciousness ‘yenatma me prasidati’ – and as a result infact I have become very very happy, I am happily situated because of ‘vibudhottama-darsane’ – not only they gave me darshan but they changed everything into auspiciousness and Prabhupada is quoting
‘sadhu-sanga sadhu-sanga sarva-sastre kaya lava-matra sadhu-sange sarva-siddhi haya’ (CC Madhya 22.54) so that is what has happened, these four Vishnudutas, they were the sadhus and lava-matra – not for very long, they were with Ajamila and he attained all the perfection – ‘sarva-siddhi haya’. In the beginning of his life Ajamila was certainly very pure, and he associated with devotees and brahmanas; because of that pious activity, even though he was fallen, he was inspired to name his son Narayana. Certainly this was due to good counsel given from within by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Prabhupada is writing in the purport, this must have been the dictation from within from chaitya guru, go ahead go ahead, name your son Narayana, go ahead, this will come handy useful to you in future, name him Narayana, give him name Narayana and Lord gave that dictation counseling because he had performed some good deeds, pious deeds. Lord, who is situated in everyone’s heart, is so kind that if one has ever rendered service to Him, the Lord never forgets him. Thus the Lord, from within, gave Ajamila the opportunity to name his youngest son Narayana so that in affection he would constantly call “Narayana! Narayana!” and thus be saved from the most fearful and dangerous condition at the time of his death. Such is the mercy of Krishna. Guru-krsna-prasade paya bhakti-lata-bija: by the mercy of the guru and Krishna, one receives the seed of bhakti. This association saves a devotee from the greatest fear.

In our Krishna consciousness movement we therefore change a devotee’s name to a form that reminds him of Vishnu. If at the time of death the devotee can remember his own name, such as Krishna das or Govinda das, he can be saved from the greatest danger. Therefore the change of names at the time of initiation is essential. The Krishna consciousness movement is so meticulous that it gives one a good opportunity to remember Krishna somehow or other. So you all have names, Parikshit and you all have names? Nice nice names you have, spiritual names. So Prabhupada even if you remember your own name (Maharaj laughs) which is your not your name infact, it’s not your own name. Whose name is Govinda? Krishna’s name; nobody has has name called Govinda, whose name is Krishna? Krishna’s name is Krishna. So you go all over the world and you will not find a person who’s name is Krishna, you will have to go all the way to Goloka, “Goloka eva nivasaty akhilatma-bhuto” there He resides, His name is Krishna. Sometimes people in India, people say, we go to preach to them when they find out that we are Krishna bhaktas just to develop some kind of friendship, appreciation, they say oh! my name is also Krishna and you know my wife is Radharani, lot of times that is the case, wife’s name is Radharani, Krishna but then we correct them and say, no no you are Krishna Das and your wife is Radharani Devi Dasi because no one’s name is; Radharani is Radha’s name only. In this world there’s no person called Krishna, no person called Radharani. So even Krishna Krishna we say, it sounds like saying alphabets are used, ‘K’ ‘R’ and ‘I’ ‘S’ ‘H’ ‘N’ ‘A’ and same alphabets and we say Krishna. So this Krishna is only Krishna’s name and its all transcendental.

“anyatha mriyamanasya nasucer vrsali-pateh
vaikuntha-nama-grahanam jihva vaktum iharhati” (S.B 6.2.33)


I must have performed some good deed, may be in my previous life, I don’t remember anything from this life, not much, otherwise how was it possible that I was able to utter the name of the Lord, ‘anyatha’ – myself who was about to die and being a husband of a prostitute, I was able to ‘vaikuntha-nama-grahanam vaktum jihva’ – my tongue was able to chant Narayana Narayana, how is it possible? Were it not for my past devotional service, how could I, a most unclean keeper of a prostitute, have gotten an opportunity to chant the holy name of Vaikunthapati when I was just ready to die? Certainly it could not have been possible.

“kva caham kitavah papo brahma-ghno nirapatrapah
kva ca narayanety etad bhagavan-nama mangalam”
(S.B 6.2.34)

He says, I am ‘kitavah pap’ means such a sinner worst order, brahma-ghno – I killed my, destroyed my brahmanical tradition ‘nirapatrapah’ – shameless, but I was able to utter the name of Narayana all auspicious chanting, name of Narayana and just nobody in connection with, in relationship with name of the Lord but I was able to chant that name.

Purport – Those engaged in broadcasting the holy name of Narayana, Krishna, through the Krishna consciousness movement should always consider what our position was before we came and what it is now. We had fallen into abominable lives as meat-eaters, drunkards and woman hunters who performed all kinds of sinful activities, but now we have been given the opportunity to chant the Hare Krishna mantra. Therefore we should always appreciate this opportunity. By the grace of the Lord we are opening many branches, and we should use this good fortune to chant the holy name of the Lord and serve the Supreme Personality of Godhead directly. We must be conscious of the difference between our present and past conditions and should always be very careful not to fall from the most exalted life. Prabhupada is questioning His followers, reminding His followers that now you are in a most fortunate position and maintain this, make sure you don’t loose this, how often you give this kind of opportunity, it’s rare; first of all human form of life is rare (1), (2) It is rare to have a desire to find God, to know God, serve God, manushyanam sahastreshu, out of thousands and thousands, one comes, who wants to come to God, so one to have human form is rare, to have a desire to know, God is second rare and third thing is then come in contact with the right personalities, right institution, right discipleic succession, that is even more rare. So in our case, we are human beings now and we have desire to find God, find the truth and then we also found came in contact with Krishna Conscious movement, which is the topmost, authorized institution of Krishna, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, so these rare things we have achieved, so losing this, it will be a big disaster.

<strong>”so ham tatha yatisyami yata-cittendriyanilah
yatha na bhuya atmanam andhe tamasi majjaye” (S.B 6.2.35)


So that is why now yatisyami – I am going to do my best, I am going to take vow that yata-cittendriyanilah – I am going to control my mind and senses, I am taking this resolution, yatha na bhuya – so that again I do not merge, glide down into tamasi andhe – the darkest regions of hell and existence, I don’t want to go that side and this, I will accomplish by yata-cittendriyanilah. Every one of us should have this determination, Prabhupada says, we have been elevated to an exalted position by the mercy of Krishna and the spiritual master, and if we remember that this is a great opportunity and pray to Krishna that we will not fall again, our lives will be successful. Creation is easy, relatively easy, maintenance is difficult. So become devotees, it’s not easy thing, not cheap thing but to maintain that devotion, to stay as devotees that’s a bigger project. If we neglect, not careful, not cautious, not afraid of maya Prabhupada says this is difficulty with my disciples, he used to say, they are not afraid of maya, too much confident, you cannot be confident while dealing with maya, she is powerful and she knows all the tricks of the trade, so be careful.

<strong>”vimucya tam imam bandham avidya-kama-karmajam
sarva-bhuta-suhrc chanto maitrah karuna atmavan” (S.B 6.2.36)

“mocaye grastam atmanam yosin-mayyatma-mayaya
vikridito yayaivaham krida-mrga ivadhamah” (S.B 6.2.37)

He says I was just dancing dog – krida-mrga, like monkeys also, they are made to dance, monkey business, monkey shows, so many people gather and this person he makes monkey do different tricks, jump, do this that, two monkeys fighting, whatever, the owner of this monkey they just catch hold of monkey and train monkey to follow the order and he just does as he is told. So it’s called krida-mrga – dancing; monkey dancing, Prabhupada says dancing dog. Vikridito yosin-mayyatma-mayaya – in the form of woman, that maya, I was just meant to dance, “balam pasya me mayayah” (S.B. 3.31.38) Kapil dev says to his mother Devhuti just see, just see the power of my maya, in the form of a woman, “balam pasya me mayayah stri-mayya jayino disam” the person may have just now returned by conquering all the directions, all the lands, he has just now come back, but now “bhruvi-jrmbhena kevalam” as now woman just moves eyebrow, then this person falls at her feet as she moved eyebrows getting his attention in a lusty way, and this person, he has just returned conquering big big lands and defeating many kings but now he is in association of woman and she moves eyebrow and this person is at her feet, licking her feet, licking her boot or serving her balam pasya me mayayah stri-mayya jayino disam, disam- directions, he has conquered all the directions, bhruvi-jrmbhena kevalam. So that’s the power of, Lord’s creation is like that, He created this, the worst thing; you man a woman, you woman a man and you forget Krishna, such a big Krishna, Supreme Personality of Godhead, you just forgot because of big cloud, the sun cannot be covered but when there’s a cloud you don’t see the sun; so woman becomes a cloud for man, man becomes a cloud for woman and then but now I am going to be good boy, going to behave now, sarva-bhuta-suhrc – I am going to be well-wisher of living entities, Ajamila is saying this, ‘chanto – I am going to be peaceful, maitrah – friendly, karuna – kind, this is my goal now, it’s my vision, he is setting the vision for himself. I want to make sure I become known as that kind of person. One who is interested in his own salvation is not as advanced in Krishna consciousness as one who feels compassion for others and who therefore propagates the Krishna consciousness movement. ‘Paropkaraya vahanti nadyah’ for others rivers are flowing so that they would only distribute, share their waters with others. ‘Paropkaraya phalanti vrakshah’ the trees are producing fruits, not for themselves, do the trees have breakfast? Eat their own fruits? In the morning, I don’t have to go anywhere shoping fruits are here, let me have few fruits. Tree never eats her own fruits, rivers don’t drink their own water, it’s just for others. So it is expected that the human beings also perform welfare activities for the benefit for others that’s glories. Spreading Krishna Consciousness is the topmost welfare activity.

<strong>”mamaham iti dehadau hitvamithyartha-dhir matim
dhasye mano bhagavati suddham tat-kirtanadibhih” (S
.B 6.2.38)

So I am going to give up this aham mamiti – thoughts like this is me, this is mine dehadau – all the bodily concept and the bodily attachments, hitva – I am going to give all this up, dhasye mano bhagavati – I shall engage my mind in bhagvati – the Supreme Personality of Godhead specially in suddham tat-kirtanadibhih – I am going to engage myself in doing “sravanam kirtanam visnoh smaranam pada-sevanam arcanam vandanam dasyam sakhyam atma-nivedanam” These shudhham – pure activities, devotional services I am going to be engaged in now onwards. Srila Prabhupada writes, how a living entity becomes a victim of the material condition is lucidly explained in this verse. The beginning is to misidentify the body as one’s self. Something called bodily concept, the bodily concept of life is Brahma’s creation, not only body is created but something is injected in our body, in our brain, mind that is called bodily concept. Body’s concept is different from body. The body is created, bodily concept is also created one thing and Brahma creates the list of 4 items, the bodily concept, the second thing is the proprietorship; this is my body and this belongs to me, then third thing, not that order whatever order, self-deception means we cheat ourselves, we do so many wrong things, convince ourselves, this is right thing for me, good thing for me and it is not supposed to be good but you deceive yourself, you cheat yourself, beat yourself, you do harm to yourself. So this kind of self-deception and the forth thing is the fear of death, this is creation of Brahma, fear of death, self-deception, proprietorship and the bodily concept, it’s very hard to get over these things unless we are graced blessed by Krishna consciousness. So he is determined, this aham mam iti – I am going to give all this up. In the beginning is to misidentify the body as one’s self. Therefore Bhagavad-gita begins with the spiritual instruction that one is not the body, but is within the body. This consciousness can be possible only if one chants the holy name of Krishna, the Hare Krishna maha-mantra, and always keeps himself in the association of devotees. This is the secret of success. Therefore we stress that one should chant the holy name of the Lord and keep oneself free from the contaminations of this material world, especially the contaminations of lusty desires for illicit sex, meat-eating, intoxication and gambling. With determination, one should vow to follow these principles and thus be saved from the miserable condition of material existence. The first necessity is to become freed from the bodily concept of life. Now iti – thus

“iti jata-sunirvedah ksana-sangena sadhusu
ganga-dvaram upeyaya mukta-sarvanubandhanah” (S.B. 6.2.39)

Not only he regretted and he set some new goals for him and got his determination together but he, he implemented, he did the implementation and jata-sunirvedah – he came to these right conclusions and he was able to detach himself from material conception of life. This was accomplished because ksana-sangena sadhusu – his association of sadhus, which sadhus? Those Vishnudutas, ksana-sangena sadhusu and so he went ganga-dvaram upeyaya – he went to ganga dvar, Haridwar some also say Hardwar depending, dwar means gate, so if you are devotee of Badri Narayan and going through Haridwar to badri ashram, then you call that city as Haridwar but if you are going to Kedarnath which is on top of Himalaya mountain, if you are Shiva bhakta then you call it Hardwar, hari har; hari is Krishna, har is har har mahadev that is Shiva. So Haridwar has two names, haridwar hardwar, Krishna bhaktas call it Haridwar, Shiva bhaktas call it Hardwar. So he has called ganga dvar here, which is Haridwar which is heading towards Hari’s abode so its Haridvar, mukta-sarvanubandhanah – he made himself free from all kinds of material bondages and he just ran to Haridwar, walked in padayatra. Our Krishna consciousness movement now has centers in Vrindavana and Navadvipa so that those who want to live a retired life, whether they be devotees or not, can go there and with determination give up the bodily concept of life. One is welcome to live in those holy places for the rest of his life in order to achieve the highest success by the very simple method of chanting the holy name of the Lord and taking prasada. Thus one may return home, back to Godhead. We do not have a center in Hardwar, Prabhupada is saying that time it was not, but now we have two centers in Hardwar, but Vrndavana and Sridhama Mayapur are better for devotees than any other places. The Caitanya Candrodaya temple offers one a good opportunity to associate with devotees. Let us all take advantage of this opportunity.

“sa tasmin deva-sadana asino yogam asthitah
pratyahrtendriya-gramo yuyoja mana atmani” (S.B. 6.2.40)

So he went to Haridwar and there deva-sadana – he went to temple, sadana means residence, residence of God i.e. temple, asino – he sat he was reciting, yogam asthitah – situated in yoga, bhakti yoga, pratyahrtendriya-gramo – controlling all his senses, yuyoja mana atmani – and fixed his mind on self or super soul, Supreme Personality of Godhead. He was now strictly following, taking holy dip in ganga everyday, temple on the bank of ganga, following all the practices, all that he had learned from before, so he had been practicing before also, so he just continued that process. The devotees who have joined the Krishna consciousness movement may live comfortably in our many temples and engage in the devotional service of the Lord.

<strong>”tato gunebhya atmanam viyujyatma-samadhina
yuyuje bhagavad-dhamni brahmany anubhavatmani” (S.B 6.2.41)


Ajamila fully engaged in devotional service. Thus he detached his mind from the process of sense gratification and became fully absorbed in thinking of the form of the Lord. His mind got fixed on bhagavad-dhamni – form of the Lord. He withdrew his mind from everything else. “yato yato niscalati manas cancalam asthiram tatas tato niyamyaitad atmany eva vasam nayet” (Bg. 6.26) So he withdrew his mind, wherever it was going, he was dragging it back and putting that fixing that on the form of the Lord and he had become quite successful in his practices. If one worships the Deity in the temple, one’s mind will naturally be absorbed in thought of the Lord and His form. There is no distinction between the form of the Lord and the Lord Himself. Therefore bhakti-yoga is the most easy system of yoga.

yarhy uparata-dhis tasminn adraksit purusan purah
upalabhyopalabdhan prag vavande sirasa dvijah” (S.B 6.2.42)

So now when his mind and intelligence were fixed, he had attained his perfection, equilibrium of mind, he was attaining now samadhi, full concentration on the form of the Lord, “brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati na kanksati samah sarvesu bhutesu mad bhaktim labhate param” (Bg. 18.54) He had attained all bhakti and so when he had attained that kind of perfection of yoga, tasminn – at that time, adraksit – he saw, purusan – those personalities, purah – he had seen them previously, who is here? Who has come? Vishnudutas, same Vishnudutas. Vishnu has so many dutas, so many representatives, but same set of those four Vishnudutas, they know the case, it is their case you go the same doctor, the next time you come he knows the history, case. So adraksit purusan purah upalabhyopalabdhan prag vavande sirasa dvijah – So this brahmin, Krishna bhakta Vishnu bhakta, he immediately vavande – offered his obeisance’s bowing down, not just mentally but physically he bowed down and offered full dandavat unto those four Vishnudutas. Vishnudutas who had rescued Ajamila came before him again when his mind was firmly fixed upon the form of the Lord. The Vishnudutas had gone away for some time to give Ajamila a chance to become firmly fixed in meditation upon the Lord. Now that his devotion had matured, they returned to take him. So he was given some time to become more perfect, get your act together, we are liberating you now. So just become firmly fixed and then we will come back again so they come back. They had not said so. And now

“hitva kalevaram tirthe gangayam darsanad anu
sadyah svarupam jagrhe bhagavat-parsva-vartinam” (S.B 6.2.43)

So when he saw, he offered his obeisance’s and then as he was getting up he just his body just stayed there on the ground and what came what stood was svarupam jagrhe – he assumed spiritual form, now he also had four hands. So that body was there and out of that body came his soul, that soul is a person or the form, whole thing. Sadyah – immediately, svarupam jagrhe – assumed the form, bhagavat-parsva-vartinam – fit, form that is fit to be associated with the Lord, to become associate with the Lord, so that’s the spiritual form, Lord’s form is spiritual so we need also spiritual form to associate with the Lord. So he had that form.

“janma karma ca me divyam evam yo vetti tattvatah tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti so ’rjuna” (Bg. 4.9) So this is what happened, tyaktva deham – he gave up his body no more birth for him, Vishnudutas are all ready standing waiting to bring him back to Vaikuntha. The result of perfection in Krishna consciousness is that after giving up one’s material body, one is immediately transferred to the spiritual world in one’s original spiritual body to become an associate of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Some devotees go to Vaikunthaloka, and others go to Goloka Vrindavana to become associates of Krishna. So that has started now in ISKCON. Lately, quite a few devotees are heading towards back to Godhead, many more have been lined up, we all are standing in a queue and then in about 15 years time, not 15, 20 years time, lot of them will leave every day, now we hear once a month, we get the report, our batch is in early 50’s mid 50’s so in another 15-20 years, everyday there will be news. So we are given little, we were given today, today was at our disposal, everyday that we are born alive or we wake up not born, every day we wake up, we should thank God that we are still around and Krishna is giving another day for us to practice Krishna consciousness. If it is not for practicing Krishna Consciousness developing detachment cultivating love of Godhead, why should we survive? Why do we need additional day or longer life? What for? Only purpose that we should use our time is to get closer to the Lord otherwise “taravah kim na jivanti” (S.B. 2.3.18) Sukhdev Goswami, aren’t the trees, look at those trees, they must be here for last few hundred years. taravah – aren’t the trees living? bhastrah – isn’t the bellow of the blacksmith, you have seen the bellows of the blacksmith? You have to go to India big; you have them in the west? Blacksmith ya we have seen in our village also, big big bellows, rope and then stick, it is attached to that bellow, so much air in and out, so lungs are doing the same thing, lungs are also functioning as bellow but we take only some air in and out but the bellow, the blacksmith takes so much air in so much air out, does it mean the bellow of the blacksmith is better? Or because the tree is living long life, is that the long life better? What good is that long life devoid of Krishna consciousness that is the point being made. Then Sukhdev Goswami says aren’t there ‘khadanti na mehanti kim grame pasavo ’pare’ aren’t there animals in your home town? They also khadanti – they also eat, mehanti – they also pass semen, they also have sex life, so it’s not just you, so if you are also just in town just to eat and sleep and have sex, animals are also doing that nothing special. Special thing is only human beings could become Krishna conscious no one else and if we are living longer and living any additional day, additional month, additional year, we should be for that purpose otherwise its meaningless. Ok time has come to go.

sakam vihayasa vipro mahapurusa-kinkaraih
haimam vimanam aruhya yayau yatra sriyah patih” (S.B 6.2.44)


Sakam vihayasa vipro – so by the path in the sky, so haimam vimanam aruhya – so he was welcome to the aircraft airplane, haimam – it was made up of gold, gold not steel, aluminum no made up of gold and these mahapurusas they invited him to board, you may board the plane now. They are giving some helping hand to climb up and yayau – then they went took off, engine started and gradually lifted and chuuu!! went. yayau yatra sriyah patih – they went where? The pati of sriyah – laxmi pati resides. That was the final destination of that flight. For many years, Prabhupada writes, material scientists have tried to go to the moon, but they are still unable to go there. However, the spiritual airplanes from the spiritual planets can take one back home, back to Godhead, in a second. The speed of such a spiritual plane can only be imagined. Spirit is finer than the mind, and everyone has experience of how swiftly the mind travels from one place to another. Right? Mayapur, Los Angeles, Hawai, Paris, Australia, Durban your mind goes what a speed. So Prabhupada says, the spiritual soul is even more subtle, more finer than the mind, so its speed is even faster than the mind. With that speed, spiritual plane travels. Therefore one can imagine the swiftness of the spiritual form by comparing it to the speed of the mind. In less than even a moment, a perfect devotee can return home, back to Godhead, immediately after giving up his material body. Some 350 years ago, one such plane, spiritual plane landed in Maharashtra, 355 years ago to be more precise, this is the birthplace of Tukaram, saintly person Tukaram you saw the movie, ISKCON ITV has the Tukaram. So he was performing kirtan, he was addressing thousands and chanting dancing playing his veena singing Vitthal Vitthal Vitthala majhya Vitthal Panduranga he was singing Vitthal Rakhumai, Panduranga Panduranga Vitthal, he was totally absorbed and getting everyone also to be absorbed. This was on the bank of river Indra, Indrayani near Pune city, presently industrial town called Pune, just outside, home village of this Tukaram. And then they saw plane coming, descending although thousands of persons, this is 350 years ago, all these planes which we are seeing now, they are only for 100 years or less, those Wright brothers, you heard of the Wright brothers or wrong brothers? They invented this plane which was only towards the end of last century 19th century. So but this plane, I mean, no-one anyone had seen, read some descriptions in the shastras, but here thousands of them they witnessed a plane coming and landing just near where a pandal big program was going on. And then Tukaram was invited to come up and take his seat which he did on the request of the airhost. He folded his hands and offered pranam to everybody, Ram Ram means see you, see you later ram ram. He said in marathi, “amhi jato amchya gava, amcha ram ram ghyava” I am going to my hometown now, please accept my ram ram. And they were all thinking, what? Your village is there, let us go walk, why you have sit in this chariot like this, but no one knew what was going to happen, he was saying I am going to home now and so soon this plane took off and to the great amazement of these thousand assembled just keep looking. Hey Hey!! Calling, but they thought he will make some few rounds and come back after a while but that wasn’t the case, they were waiting and waiting and waiting, that plane never returned, Tukaram also never returned. This is a true story, history. You could go, I have just seen a few months ago, where the plane landed that place is there, you could go and vibration, feels little temptation of wanting to go. So some time, things are also revealed this way and in the past others were given a lift and taken back to the Lord. So if you come to India, come to Maharashtra, not far from Mumbai Bombay is this place Tukaram’s birth place and now, end of this second chapter, final statement, final few statements.

“ya etam paramam guhyam itihasam aghapaham
srnuyac chraddhaya yukto yas ca bhaktyanukirtayet” (S.B. 6.2.47)

So saying, srnuyac chraddhaya yukto yas ca bhaktyanukirtayet – so Sukhdev Goswami says anyone who, this is important thing, important conclusion. So be here, don’t jump out of the window. So anyone who hears this guhyam – confidential history ok, here chraddhaya – here with faith chraddhaya yukto yas ca – and, bhaktyanukirtayet – with devotion narrate this, share this history with others. There’s a benifit of doing so, one who hear’s with faith and describes this confidential history with devotion,

“na vai sa narakam yati neksito yama-kinkaraih
yady apy amangalo martyo visnu-loke mahiyate” (S.B 6.2.48)
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You could only be sitting here and hearing this pastime when we go home, home town, home temple or home here stairs back those who couldn’t attend for some reason, if you share this pastime with them, na narakam yati – no more hell, doors of hell are closed for him and neksito yama-kinkaraih – and Yamadutas will not even look at you, they will be scared of you, oh he is a devotee, he is a Vaishnava, I better maintain safer distance and visnu-loke mahiyate – and such person, we will read this translation – Because this very confidential historical narration has the potency to vanquish all sinful reactions, one who hears or describes it with faith and devotion is no longer doomed to hellish life, regardless of his having a material body and regardless of how sinful he may have been. Indeed, the Yamadutas, who carry out the orders of Yamaraja, do not approach him even to see him. After giving up his body, he returns home, back to Godhead, where he is very respectfully received and worshiped. So such is the benefit and last, very last statement.

“mriyamano harer nama grnan putropacaritam
ajamilo ’py agad dhama kim uta sraddhaya grnan” (S.B 6.2.49)

While suffering at the time of death, Ajamila chanted the holy name of the Lord, and although the chanting was directed toward his son, he nevertheless returned home, back to Godhead. Therefore if one faithfully and inoffensively chants the holy name of the Lord, where is the doubt that he will return to Godhead? He was only addressing his son, that’s how he was chanting the Holy Name but if one does that shraddhaya – with all faith and no offense then certainly. Ok. If one does so, it is quite possible that even at the time of death he will be properly able to chant the holy name of the Lord with love and faith. In conclusion, one who chants the holy name of the Lord constantly is guaranteed to return home, back to Godhead, without a doubt. Haribol!
So now regarding tomorrow, I have a different idea, I mean the schedule, we could spend few minutes but the managers are not here. That is, we could start at quarter to 8 and finish by 9:30 the first session, little compromise; normal prasadam time is 9 o’clock. So eat half an hour little late, shorter session, I can manage, quarter to 8 till 9:30 and then we could meet again at 11 o’clock. So one and a half hour for breakfast and break and have another final session at which point we could take some questions or and if some of you have any comments or realizations, you could also speak, last second ya tomorrow’s second session. Towards the end of last session, some questions and some of your realisations.




You also become fortunate like Arjuna

Venue: ISKCON Noida (BASE), Dated: 26th April 2014

Very happy to visit your ashram the BASE ashram, brahmachari ashram most of you or all of you are unmarried, single, so ashram before grihastha ashram is brahmachari ashram. Of course it’s not necessary for everyone to be grihastha. Prabhupada said that all the boys should stay single and there were mataji disciples also they should all get married, all the girls should get married and all the boys should stay single (laughter). Try, try to give a try to stay single. Life is a journey, they always advise to travel light. If you are single, not added the family, children, extra baggage, extra luggage, excess luggage, journey could be tougher one. Life is tough and then you die. So we are happy that first of all you are all souls’ right. Are you all souls? That is our goal, to realize that we are souls. If we don’t realize we miss the bus. So you souls have come together and you are residing here. So this is already great good fortune.

Krishna is very kind; otherwise also He is very kind. It is said that God is ..Krishna is kind. But what is the proof? We could say that we have this opportunity to stay together, pray together. Also that family which prays together stays together. Family does not mean wife. There is no wife here, how come we are family. Devotee family, family not necessarily means wife, children that makes a family. Family of devotee, devotee family, family of Srila Prabhupada so this is Prabhupad’s family. We are family members; Krishna is also our pati, so we are in that sense family. We have master, Srila Prabhupada is our master. We must be servants or disciples or followers. So, we have come we have been brought in contact with the Lord Sri Krishna it is our great good fortune.

brahmanda bhramite kona bhagyavan jiva” Living entities are wandering all over the universe, they have been wandering. There are some fortunate souls. “guru krishna prasade paya bhakti lata bija” We are brought in contact with Guru, Krishna, contact with sadhus, devotees, Gurus, Siksha gurus, Diksha gurus, pathpradarshak gurus, chaityagurus. Even Lord becomes our Guru, He is our Guru, “krishnam vande jagatgurum” He is Guru within the heart, He is also playing role of a Guru – Chaityaguru.

So this contact, this connection has been made through Guru. “guru krishna prasade paya bhakti lata bija” and you are getting the bija or seed of devotion. This is the kindness of Lord. Lord is very, very kind and you realize, you feel, you experience His kindness as we have been brought in contact with Him, brought in contact with devotees of Sri Krishna and that will introduce us to Krishna and that path will lead us to Krishna, Krishna’s lotus feet. Hare Krishna (Maharaj is asking the devotees is it ok so far what I said?)

“apy adhruvam arthadam” (S.B 7.6.1) This human life is temporary, not for very long. “Kamal dala jal, jeevan tal mal”. Are you hungry? If you are already full, food is offered, you will not eat, doesn’t matter what kind of food. You are hungry, thirsty, your soul is thirsty, you will be very eager. “Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare”. We are addressing your souls, we are treating you as souls and hence all that I am talking is for the soul. Soul is the goal. We are not talking here of the body, needs of the body are also there eating, sleeping, matting and defense bodily necessities. And we have not talked nothing about that so far so good, so far so bad that we have spoken about those matters. We live that to someone else to tell you about that your bodily needs. But on behalf of Sri Krishna, we are representing Sri Krishna so when we meet people we see you as the soul, treat you as a soul. And Soul’s NIC- N: Needs, I: Interests, C: Concerns you have heard of NIC? Souls needs, Souls interest, souls concerns.

Before we said life is a journey we start the journey we always know what my destination is. Where am I going? If someone is sitting in the train in compartment, you ask him where you are going? “I don’t know”. How does that sound. He must be pagal. He is sitting in the train, journey is about to start, he doesn’t even know where he has to go, where is this train bringing him to. So even before we start the journey what is the first thing you do? Decide the destination. We could call that as a goal, goal of a journey, this life is a journey. It must have some goal, some target, some destination. So you are all ready, your journey has started. When you took birth your journey started. One-fourth of your journey is over. You are on the way. I do not know whether you made up your mind, when you started your journey twenty, twenty-five, fifteen, eighteen years ago. You are just sitting in a train you don’t know where this train is bringing you to.

So, this is of prime importance to make the plan for your journey. Otherwise, you make the whole plan for your life’s mission, life’s goal. What you wish to achieve in this human form of life? that is different from other living species, animals and birds forget the trees. They just survive, animals just survive, birds just survive they eat, they sleep, they mate and they defend. That is their whole life. They do not do anything beyond. This is called animal propensity, animal instincts, animal activities something from within dictates them, do this, do this, do this. So, all that they do is eat, sleep, mate, defend and this is how it is going on in this human form of life. Most of the human beings, most of them, a lot of them: human beings on this planet are busy with these four businesses. Bijli, sadak, pani, roti, kapda, makan and the whole elections are being fought. All promises are being made. We will do this, we will do this, and we will do this. Aam admi party, this party, that party. Bijli is such a big issue. Most of the people are busy like that.

The birds do not have Parliament. The animals do not have parliament. So many educational institutes. They do not have metro-trains. They do not have malls. They do not have fast mode of transportation and communication. Look we have all this, but with all this Parliament and all these universities and courts and lawyers and engineers, basically it boils down to four things.

“Chyain se jivo sukha se jivo” Life of luxury, you have heard the word luxury? ‘Luxurious apartments’ and ‘eighty-one stories.’ But luxury five star hotels, seven star hotels. You heard of 7 star hotels? When devotees go on, we were just doing Navadvipa mandal parikrama last month Navadvipa and Mayapur. So we told the devotes we have facilities here bare, minimum just tents, straw on the floor, simple roof that’s all and we had devotees from sixty different countries on the parikrama, Navadvipa Mandal parikrama. We had 10 thousand devotees in Navadvipa Mandal parikrama this year, Haribol! As I talked of this 5 star and 7 seven star I was reminded of. So when devotees were lying down after parikrama and roof of the tent had big, big holes. One devotee said, “Maharaj you said simple facility but I am seeing so many stars- so not just 7 but multistar, many star facility, so many stars.”

“Yaha suvidha nahi hai yaha sukha hai parikrama me” Wherever we have come from, there was facility not happiness but here there is no facility but there is all happiness, without luxury. Our souls are happy, we are happy. Most of the world is busy. In the words of Srila Prabhupada “people like Kingdom of God, Kingdom like that of God but without God” What do we need God for? I am God. I want to be God. I want to be the enjoyer. What is God known for? He enjoys. So the bewildered souls, souls are bewildered, confused, perplexed and they are taking position of God, being God or the enjoyers. But for humans, what is the goal of life? Animals goal is also same eating, sleeping, they have better sex facilities. The pigeons, they could enjoy sex life fifty times a day. Could any human being do that? They’ll die, they’ll kill themselves. Sex life is killer. You really want to enjoy that, become a pigeon, become a pig that’s what we were, we have gone through all this.

All that glitters is not gold, this world is very shiny and glittery, sleek, all chamak dhamak, this is creating illusion. For human being some additional thing they are expected to do. “Dharmo hi tesam adhiko viseso” For human being there is some additional thing they are expected to do, that is what? That is dharma. That is Krishna consciousness. “Ahara nidra bhaya maithunam ca samanyam etat pasubhir naranam” this is common for pasu and nara. For humans and animals it is common. We have bodies so eating is there. We cannot survive without eating. Eating must be there. “annad bhavanti bhutani” (B.G 3.14) Krishna said If you do not eat, you cannot live, you cannot survive. You must eat. “dharmo hi tesam adhiko viseso” You have to eat as per principles of dharma. Dharma will tell you. You are human beings. Then you have to follow the principle of dharma.

“dharma sammudha cetah” (B.G 2.7) this is Arjuna’s situation. Kuruksetra battle started “senayor ubhayor madhye sthapayitva rathottamam” (B.G 1.24) and Krishna took Arjuna’s chariot in between two armies’ and then when he saw “pasyaitan samavetan kurun iti” (B.G 1.25) Krishna said, just see you wanted to see, who you have to fight with, so now you could take a close look. “pasyaitan” just see those who have assembled here are Kurus “samavetan kurun pasya”. So and then he saw and his bodily concept was revived. He was kind of reminded they are Kurus and I am also Kuru. Kauravas, Pandavas they are both Kuru. Arjuna became overwhelmed by this bodily concept and his affection for family members. They were anti-Krishna party and then Arjuna has made several statements in the first chapter of Bhagvad- Gita. But he was bewildered, overwhelmed by the affection for his family members the false affection.

Then he said you know I am “karpanya dosopahata svabhavah” (B.G 2.7) He was influenced by karpanya dos, miserly very miser, not magnanimous. This human birth is very valuable and its wealth human form of life is a wealth, its arthadam- it is meaningful. There is so much wealth but you don’t use it even if it is essential. You spend money on buying this and that, that person is called miserly, not that he doesn’t have the means the wealth. But he is miserly, doesn’t utilize it properly. So this Arjuna had the wealth of human form of life but he was karpanya doso. He had become miserly. He said that he himself said this.

“prcchami tvam dharma sammudha cetah” (B.G 2.7) I have become sammudha, I am very badly bewildered. I don’t know the goal of life. I don’t know what to do and what not to do, “kim kartavya vimudha” about my duty, my kartavya. What am I supposed to be doing? I am not able to come any conclusion. No, no O! Lord, then he appealed to the Lord. “yac chreyah syan niscitam bruhi tan me” (B.G 2.7) But whatever is good for me, whatever is best for me. You tell me, I cannot manage, I cannot handle. I am bewildered, I am lost. You do it for me. “sisyas te aham sadhi mam tvam prapannam” (B.G 2.7) sisya- I am now becoming your disciple and please instruct me, O! My Lord, O! My Supreme, O! My spiritual master, you tell me, you guide me, you enlighten me, you lead my path and this is how Bhagvad-Gita begins now. When Arjuna took that stand this is where song of God begins, Lord would begin singing the song, Geet- Bhagvat gita.

So, we the human beings in this world, bewildered and conditioned and what not. Overwhelmed, the dictations, the propensities- eating, sleeping, mating and defending this is what they have been doing in previous lives. They are in position of Arjuna, Arjuna’s position, they represent Arjuna’s thinking, Arjuna’s status, Arjuna’s fallen, bewildered situation. The present day civilization is like that. Fortunately, in case of Arjuna, because he had a good fortune, that he has come in contact with the Lord and he is making enquiry from the Lord. That is why we were talking in the beginning that you are rare souls. There are not so many souls who have got this opportunity, you are selected few.

“manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati siddhaye” (B.G 7.3) out of thousands and thousands, some fortunate souls they think of perfection, think of something higher, better or superior than this animalism, another “ism” another name animalism . So the present day civilization is mostly animalism, they are animals. “dharmena hinah pasubhih saman” the principle is that if you separate dharma from human form of life what is the balance. The balance is pasu “sei pasu boro duracar se sambandha nahi jar” (Nitai pada kamala by Narottam Das Thakur) those who are not in contact with Nityananda Pabhu, “janma brtha gelo tar” their life is a wasting life.

So the world is called “bhava pravaha” Kunti maharani said world is flowing floating, bhava-sagar, bhava pravaha. Sansar is flowing and the whole world is flowing, going with that flow. “andha yatha andhai upagiya mana” the leaders are blind and the followers are also blind, blind leading the blind. So, you could imagine – when blind leads a blind. If the blind are lead by someone who has eyes, then even if you don’t have your own eyes you could take help of others who have eyes, others who have vision, others who are providing direction then you will be benefitted.

So, whole civilization is in all total darkness “aham ajnan jana tamah” (B.G 10Kr.11) ishna says ajnana, Ignorance is causing the darkness. In middle of flood, daylight, so much light but still you cannot see, in the middle of the day there is darkness, darkness caused by the ignorance. Vedas say ‘don’t stay in ignorance, don’t stay in darkness.’ “Tamasoma jyotirgamaya”, Tamaso ma- don’t stay in darkness, come to the light. So that light we are getting some rays, you are approaching that light. To get different results you have to do something different. The means have to different to achieve different goal. The animals and the birds and the fish and aquatics they have certain type of goal, fixed goal but for human being there is different goal so they have to do something different once you have a different goal. So what their goal is that you are told. As Arjuna approached Sri Krishna “please tell- bruhi tan me” bruhi- please speak, give me vision, give me light, give me direction. Tell me what I am supposed to do. So are you taking that stand that’s the point, Arjuna was in bewildered state he was making so many statements. He was talking; he didn’t even let Krishna speak in the 1st chapter of Bhagvat gita Krishna did not speak. 1st chapter later half of 1st chapter, towards end of 1st chapter of Bhagvat gita its Arjuna geet, song of Arjuna, Arjuna is speaking and all that talk that goes all around the world is very similar to the kind of talk that Arjuna is talking about.

Towards the end of the first chapter of Bhagvat gita all this concerns. What about this dharma? That dharma? Krishna said no..no.. “sarva dharman parityajya” (B.G 18.66) get rid of that dharma, those duties. So when he is talking and talking, He was thinking, I am talking big, of great benefit to myself, to my family, the world but Krishna knows the value of those thoughts that talk. “kutas tva kasmalam edam” (B.G 2.2 ) He says where is this dirt coming from? All that you are talking it’s so dirty, it is not valuable. Throw this in dustbin it is fit for the dustbin kachara peti. All that Arjuna talked “prajna vadams” (B.G 2.11) Talking like a learned pandit Krishna says. Look, you are full of lamentation, you are lamenting “nanusocanti panditah” pandit does not lament. Your whole talk is full of lamentation, people either lament or they hanker.

So that Arjuna luckily, fortunately had a good fortune of approaching the Lord, the right authority, the Supreme authority, the knowledgeable, kind Lord. You also become fortunate like Arjuna, Krishna was right in front of Arjuna. He was having the dialogue. Where is Krishna? I would like to talk to Him, consult Him. But you could do that, you could do that Krishna is here. What Krishna spoke five thousand years ago to Arjuna that He was speaking to you, He wanted to speak to you, He wanted to talk to you but you were not ready before. But it seems now you are ready, willing to have a dialogue with the Lord. You read that dialogue. Krishna-Arjuna samvad- dialogue. Put yourself in position of Arjuna. There are some sixteen different questions that Arjuna has raised during that dialogue. So make those questions your questions like Arjuna is asking these questions. You take the microphone, you ask those questions. They are the right questions, “Perfect questions, perfect answers” those are the questions human beings ask naturally. Then let Krishna speak to you and you hear. You read Bhagvad-gita or you hear Bhagvad-gita, the song of God.

Then you will realize what happens towards the end. Arjuna said “nasto mohah smrtir labdha tvat prasadan mayacyuta sthito smi gata sandehah karisye vacanam tava” when he heard that dialogue “nasto mohah smrtir labdha” (B.G 18.73) Now I regained my consciousness or my memory, now I know who I am, who you are. “param brahma param dhama pavitram paramam bhavan” (B.G 10.12) . “Kamal jal dala jeevan tal mal” I was very shaky but now I am fixed as sthira, steady, my hand was trembling “gandivam sramsate hastat” (B.G 1.29) Gandiva was slipping out of my hands. My mouth drying up “mukham ca parisusyati” (B.G 1.28) this and that but now, all that is over, now I am fixed now, I know what to do. I know my duty now as a Kshatriya what I am suppose to be doing. “karisye vacanam tava” (B.G 18.73) Your wish is my command, I will execute your will, I know your will now, I know you, I know myself and my relationship with you and my duty and I am ready.
So this dialogue take place between a soul and Sri Krishna dialogue at the beginning of our journey of life, it’s already little late you already started travelling moving on “kaumara acaret dharaman bhagvatan iha” (S.B 7.6.1) this is advise of Pralad Maharaj, you are kumar “kaumaram yauvanam jara” (B.G 2.13) the boyhood, the youth hood, the old age. When you are boys this is the time boys, till the time your friend is “dharaman bhagvatam eha” (S.B 7. ) Go for studying dharma; go for understanding dharma, what is my dharma? The soul’s dharma, dharma of the soul. So you are here together ISKCON’S youth program, based here in the Base, you are based here in the Base and you have a dialogue with Lord. So take full advantage of your being here and you are travelling and moving and moving life after life as all the conditioned souls are busy moving but now you have kind of stopped, think before you proceed. The lion the king of forest he does this called Simhavalokan, he travels he runs in the forest then he stops, lion is known for this he is a king he is known, he takes stop of the situation, tries to understand where I am now? Where I have come from? How far I have to go? Where I have to go? He stops and thinks called Simhavalokan, simha avalokan- means to see. He scans circumstances and then he proceeds.

So being here is, take it easy, relax, stop, think before you proceed. So this wandering has been going on and on and on for long time, souls don’t know this, that’s what even Arjuna said because the conditioned souls don’t know. So Arjuna is taking that position “bahuni me vyatitani janmani tava carjuna tany aham veda sarvani na tvam vettha parantapa” (B.G 4.5) Arjun had earlier asked questioned that oh! You said you spoke this knowledge Bhagvad-gita to Sun God long long time ago, oh! How am I to understand this? That you speak long long time ago then how do I understand this? “aparam bhavato janma param janma vivasvatah” (B.G 4.4) You are just now born and Vivasvan he was there in the past long long time ago. That Vivasvan, the sun God existed and you are now with me, we are together. “katham etad vijaniyam tvam adau proktavan iti” (B.G 4.4) How am I to understand that? “tvam adau proktavan iti” in the past previously you spoke this knowledge to Vivasvan “katham etad vijaniyam” how I am going to understand this? You understand this? This is Arjuna’s question, one of the 16 questions we said, Arjuna’s question.

You are here, I am here and what you are taking, you spoke millions of years ago to Sun God Vivasvan and then Krishna’s reply is “you have forgotten”. “bahuni me vyatitani janmani tava carjuna tany aham veda sarvani na tvam vettha parantapa” (B.G 4.5) bahuni me- many, many births I had many births and you have had many births. “tany aham veda sarvani” I remember all those births, “na tvam vettha parantapa” but the trouble is you have forgotten, you have forgotten all those births you have forgotten but I remember all of them not only my incarnation “sambhavami yuge yuge” (B.G 4.8) but I remember your birth, I remember everybody’s births. “vedaham samtitani varmanani carjuna bhavisyani ca bhutani mam tu veda no kascana” (B.G 7.26) Krishna says I remember everybody this is the Lord, this is the Lord, Lord could say this, He is speaking the fact the truth “vedaham samtitani” I remember I know “samatitani” everything that has happened to you right now, I know all of that “varmatani” all that is going on, happening right now with you I know. “bavisyani ca bhutani” . The future of every living entity, I know “na veda na kascana” but the trouble is no one knows me. I know about everybody but no one knows me.

So we have forgotten as Arjuna had forgotten, Arjuna doesn’t remember, we have forgotten. Now we have this human form of life, its very meaningful some purpose, to do something that we never were able to do in past, in only human form of life such things are possible. This Krishna consciousness is possible only in human form of life. Man or woman’s or wife, husband, children everyone’s goal is the same, to become Krishna conscious, to love Krishna, serve Krishna, go back to Krishna, go and join the dancing party of Radha and Krishna Prabhupada used to say. Goal is join the dancing party of Radha and Krishna. Ok any questions, discussion points.

Question: – Prabhupada said that all the boys should stay single how’s that going to work?
Answer: (Maharaj ji laughs) So Srila Prabhuapada did accept that everyone, all the brahmacaris will stay single but it won’t work out like that everyone is not going to meet that expectation. But then there is opportunity for girls to get married with those who would not manage staying single. All those who join the brahmacari ashram although Krishna and Spiritual master would expect that they would stay single forever, practicing and propagating Krishna consciousness. But in reality that won’t happen some will continue as brahmacaris “brahmacari gurukule vasantantam gururhitam” Narada Muni also says this. Brahmacari stays in Gurus ashram “dasvat” as a menial servant, humble guruhitam- serving spiritual master, following his instructions. So everyone will not mange doing that, so who won’t manage, can’t manage another ashram. “catur varnyam maya srstam” (B.G 4.13 ) Krishna has created not only brahmacari ashram but He has also created grahasta ashram then there is vanaprasta ashram finally brahmacari again sanyasi is advanced stage of brahmacari. Some will continue that same ashram same path brahmacari but others the option is there alternative is there. Go for change of ashram its authorized grahasta ashram but trouble is difficulty is there no ashram, there is no grahasta ashram. Ghar has become cinema ghar not ashram. Grahasta ashram is fine, it’s ok, it’s authorized that’s part of dharma. Your life is a journey you take that route grahasta ashram that is also path and finally vanaprastha renunciation.

Question: – What is vanaprastha ashram?
Answer: Vana is van means forest and prastha means situated in the forest; grihastha vanaprastha in the both situations one is situated in griha and finally situated in forest. One is comfort zone grihasta family life keeping Krishna in the center, wife husband are partners Krishna conscious partners marriage partners. But that is not for ever first 25 years brahmachari ashram next 25 years grihasta ashram then there is “ekavan” when your age is, what is the age? Ekavan, bavan it’s a reminder it’s the time to go to van forest ekavan, bavan. So that person moves out of grihasta, he retires what they call retirement, he travels to holy places, meets holy men practices vairagya- detachment because he was attached to so many things so he is coming out of that “asa pasa satair baddhah” (B.G 16.12 ) leading more austere life as guided by “sadhu – sastra- acharya”. So vanaprashta ashram its transitions between grihasta ashram and sannyasa ashram, its preparation for the final stage is vanaprastha. Ok any other question?

Question: – Arjuna was not prepared to fight he gave so many reasons not to fight, killing of elders etc?

Answer: Yes so we hear Arjuna speaks at the beginning of Bhagvat gita first chapter, we kind of agree – it makes sense. Arjuna was also thinking he was confident and he was expecting that soon Krishna would say yes yes you are right Arjuna, there is no need to fight. Morning time just have breakfast (laughter) you don’t have to fight. So Arjuna was expecting also Krishna responding like that he was not willing to fight and Krishna would agree yes yes you don’t have to fight. Some of those talks and thoughts of Arjuna they fit into dharmic principles, sounds like dharma. Principles of morality and kula dharma, this dharma that dharma. But if that comes in the way of executing the will of the Lord, mission of the Lord then it should be abandoned, should be given up. That is “sarva dhraman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja” The war was the will of the Lord; Krishna is behind the battle Arjuna was not able to see. This battle was going to serve the purpose of Lord’s mission, Lord’s advent into this world “dharma samsthapanarthaya sambhavami yuge yuge” (B.G 4.8) so how is He going to do that? “paritranaya sadhanam vinasaya ca duskrtam” I will annihilate the miscreants. So this was whole sale arrangement not a retail business killing one by one, Lord had to go door to door that demon killed, that one killed. This battle field forum provided whole sale opportunity let all the demons come out kill them. So some higher purpose Krishna’s purpose was going to be served by battling, fighting I know you have some concerns you are worried about this, what will happen? The husbands are killed and the widows “varna-sankara” that is also there but there is some higher principle.

Question: – dharma sastra? (A devotee asks about Dharma sastra)

Ya there are different sastras, dharma sastra they have different values or gradation. So at some level that is also ok under some circumstances to be done or practiced. Ya so when Krishna was talking to Gopis in the middle of the night when the gopis had come to meet Krishna, to be with Krishna, dance with Krishna and Krishna is also giving little Bhagvat geet there some song of Krishna there. Gopis were ready to do this “sarva dhraman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja” they had already done that they had given up everything all relations, all obligations even they were ready to give up their life. Some of the gopis were stopped by their family members those gopis were living their bodies ok you take care of this body I go their souls are going, you take this body I go . So they were giving up their bodies and going to Sri Krishna so they were undergoing all the sacrifices but Krishna was advising, hey! Why have you come? Go back serve your family members what about your children? What about your family members? What about this? What about that? No..no it’s not fair you have done this “sarva dharman parityajya” and you are doing this “ mam ekam saranam vraja” don’t do this go back.

He was reminding them of this obligation that obligation but so did gopis listen to the advice of the Lord? Did they follow His instructions? Go back go back, no they did not, they stayed on. They are situated in this ultimate principle of “mam ekam saranam vraja” . So ya there is also principle Prabhupada quotes that in 1st chapter of Bhagavat gita, those who have surrendered unto the Lord Mukunda those who are fully surrendered unto the Lord, fully taken shelter of the Lord they have no more obligation towards the family members, that does not mean you become irresponsible, no obligation towards Devatas you serve the Lord, Lord will not blame you, the satras can’t blame you, hey! You did not do this? What about Demigods? What about society, samaja? A person who is fully surrendered to the Lord he becomes free from all other obligations. But of course as he is stationed, situated in that state “sarva dharman parityajya” kind of consciousness fully surrendered, devotee is not irresponsible not that he does not follow the principles of dharma but the ultimate dharma is surrender to the Lord, go to the Lord, love the Lord, serve the Lord and then other things will be taken care of “yatha taror mula nisecanena trpyanti skandha bhujosakhak” (S.B 4.31.14). This is the principle that Bhagvatam says when root of the tree is you put fertilizer water at the root of the tree, then the whole tree will be nourished the trunk of the tree, the branches of the tree, the leaves, the flowers, the roots everything is nourished by “yatha mula nisecanena” that mula that root so that root is Sri Krishna, that root is Krishna and by serving Him then you will serving you will take care infact you would be the one who would knows how to take care of your family or society or the country.

First of all you will know to take real care of your self – yourself is the soul. So you would know what is the best interest of the soul, in the interest of the soul is that he also serves Krishna, my wife serves Krishna my wife becomes a great devotee of Lord Sri Krishna and this is kartavya this is the real obligation this is the duty. It is said you should not become “gurur na sa syat sva jano na sa syat pita na sa syaj jnani na sa syat daivam na tat syan na patis ca sa syan na ,okayed yah samupeta mrtyum” (S.B 5.5.18) you should not become spiritual master, one should not become someone’s relative or a friend don’t become someone’s mother or father until and unless you are going to “samupetum mrutum” you have to make that person eligible to become free no more birth no more death they all serve Krishna. If you are doing that for your children, for your wife or your family, society, country then if you are not doing that then you are not doing the right thing not fulfilling your obligation.

So you serve Krishna and get others also to serve Krishna, revive their love for Krishna. And to do that whatever is favorable we do, whatever is not favorable we reject. Do this; don’t do this is the criterion to decide what to do what not to do? Whether this is going to make me others Krishna conscious. So what Arjuna has said is ok at some level that’s true but they are stumbling block in the mission of the Lord and in becoming Krishna conscious. Bali maharaj he rejected his guru, oh! You are no more my guru, I don’t care. How is this? “tasmad gurum prapadyeta” (S.B 4.29.55) the scriptures say you must accept spiritual master but here this person he abandon his guru. Because Bali maharaj was ready to surrender everything unto the Lord he was emperor of the whole universe he was ruler of the whole universe and he was ready to surrender all of that. But his guru was- hey! Disciple you should think twice before you give the promise you have promised 3 steps of land but you know he is very tricky fellow. He was small batu Brahman 3 steps is not much space but he is going to snatch everything from you. When this was the advice of the spiritual master Sukracharya, he (Bali maharaj) said better I get rid of you.

Acceptance of spiritual master is also a big principle but here he is coming in the way of “sarva dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja” full surrender. His spiritual master said no..no not full surrender if Krishna takes everything what about my daksina? Some motivation is there some lower nature is there which has to be given up. So “mam ekam saranam vraja” this is dharma whatever comes in the way “parityajya”.

Question: Krishna says “sarva dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja” and you will be free from all sins and punya is also there we have to get rid of that also how to understand this?

Answer: In this world there is something bad or good so punya is good and pap is bad but ultimately Krishna’s point of view, Krishna conscious point of view bad is bad but good is also bad. Pap will send you to hell and punya will send you to heaven, so one should not certainly not go to hell but going to heaven is also not the goal there is also cheating, in performance of punya you are cheated “vanchitosmi vanchitosmi vanchitosmi” one of our acharya says “oh! I was very badly cheated “visvam guara rase magnam” while whole world of gaudiyas was drowning in love of Krishna – Krishna prema they were drowning, swimming, diving in the ocean of Krishna prema I did not even get one drop of that Krishna prema I was bathing with some punya punya is also considered dharma there is yagya, demigod worship, charities. So reaction of pap is hell and reaction or fruit of punya is heaven. But “ksine punye martya-lokam visanti” (B.G 9.21) go to heaven but then ultimately when you punya is “shin” exhausted then you have to come back to this mrtyu lok again and again..so “sarva dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja aham tvam sarva papebhyo – punyabhyo” also its hidden there punya is also some kind of pap this is against Krishna, this is not part of Krishna consciousness. He has already said “sarva dharman parityajya” ok that’s a good point also, punya is considered dharma lot of punya activities pious activities are considered dharma so when Krishna said “sarva dharman parityajya” he has already said give up that punya activity. So Krishna has indirectly talked about giving up punya “sarva pap moksa isami” the reactions of punya and pap I will make you free, free from the reactions of pap and punya, the reaction of pap – punya is just going into hell or heaven which is both in this universe. But I want you to come back to me. “devan deva yajoyanti” (B.G 7.23) those who worship demigods and do pious activities punya karma “devan” they go to demigods, “yanti madyajino api mam” those who worship me they come back to me.
So this reaction of punya karma is going to heaven, also you have to become free from “dvandhva” means dual nature of this world, pap-punya this is dvandhva, sukha-dukha this is dvandhva. Krishna consciousness is beyond sukha and dukha, Krishna consciousness is beyond hell and heaven, Krishna consciousness is beyond happiness and distress or victory or defeat. These two things happen in this world good things and bad things, Krishna consciousness is beyond punya and pap.

Question: We see one is following Krishna consciousness and progressing and one is not able to progress in Krishna consciousness so what is missing?
Answer: guideline is incomplete or defective that’s one possibility or guidance is ok or perfect your following is incomplete or defective get the point. Everyone speaks from his level of realization. So of course Krishna is speaking and then acharyas speak with their full conviction, full understanding “jnana vijnana sahitam” everyone is not at the same level that’s why there is kanishta adhikari, madhyam adhikari and uttam adhikari. So there is some kind of understanding like that, he is junior devotee, he is new devotee, this one is little advanced or he is top ranking, advanced devotee very advanced devotee. Some devotees are ideal examples, he is following also as he says “you do the way I do”. So it is doing and showing and we see he is also progressing, we will also be benefited by that association and his instructions, his guidance, yes does that answer your question ok.




Let us uphold the principles given by Sri Rama and Ramayan

Venue: New Jersey Ram katha (Third session) Jai Shri Rama, now you are getting into the mood, spirit is getting higher; Rama is entering you, entering your hearts. You are having good time or you are suffering or Rama is? He never suffers. This is His lila, His pastimes. Rama has lost peace of His mind, Rama has lost His Sita. They could never be separated, “He is shaktiman and she is shakti”. Shakti and shaktiman they are always together but here some attempt has been made to separate them and someone else who has no right over that shakti alhadini shakti the pleasure potency of Shri Rama, someone else is trying to he is trying to, thinking to enjoy her exploit her.

Anyone who attempts this he meets his death. A death penalty is one of the lessons to be learned. Lords energy in Lord’s service that’s natural. Wealth is also Laxmi, Laxami also in the service of Narayan. Sita is Laxami, Ravan like personality they try to separate them and Hanuman like personalities they try to unite two of them. Those who put Laxmi and Narayan together they are like Hanuman they are devotees. Those who try to separate come in the middle intervene and try to exploit they are the Ravanas, and there are only two kinds of “daiva asura eva ca” the devatas the devotees and the demons. Lord is not impersonal, Sita is lost, it doesn’t make any difference to Him it’s not like that this is what He is showing He is very personal , He has feelings, He has emotions, He cares. So Shri Rama and Sita they have shringar rasa, shringar bhava madhurya lila not of the kind of Radha and Krishna not at that height that level because He has assumed the position of maryada Purushottam and Krishna is Purna Purushottam. But the quality is the same of that madhurya rasa conjugal loving dealings or the quantity maybe different. So to understand this lila this Sita has been separated from Rama and see what is going on with Rama.

Yesterday someone was even wondering, is that how exactly he transpired or it is just the Valmiki’s imagination or exaggeration. What if Valmiki was also of that type? Then Ramayan would not have lasted for 900,000 years, if it was just fictitious mundane or just exaggeration or imagination or speculation of Valmiki. No he is not that kind of cheater poet, free from those four defects. The authority should be free from those four defects. No committing mistakes, not in illusion, imperfect senses, no cheating propensity. So he is free from these four defects so his presentation of Ramayan is perfect. Lords lila as presented in Ramayana is also perfect. If we don’t understand that’s our misfortune certainly no one should not doubt or question. Having questions is sign of intelligence but one should also quickly deal with it with proper enquiry “Pariprasnena sevaya upadeksyanti ti jnanam” (BG 4.34) doubts are like our enemies they haunt us. “Samsayatma vinasyati” (BG 4.40) samsaya could cause vinash destruction. “sraddhavan labhate jnanam” (BG 4.39) on the contrary if you have sraddha faith you achieve the gyan the right information knowledge. So it’s our duty to understand the pastimes of Krishna or Rama, Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu tattva taha we made that statement very first day “janma karma ca me divyam evam yo vetti tattvatah tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti so arjuna” (B.G 4.9) Tattva has to be understood. We have been kind of dealing with lilas throwing some light maybe on how to understand this or that some tatva, some siddhanta. We have not been doing much on that but this particular episode which is main theme of this Ramayan. Rama Sita’s kidnapping and Sita and then Rama’s searching looking and they also many kandas divisions, major portion of Ramayan has been devoted for that purpose towards the end He is losing and then we go through whole Ramayan and Aranya kanda and kishkindha kanda and sundar kanda and then also yuddha kanda and towards that end of that day is dashera day. Dashera he lost his ten –das- 10 heads. That day Ravana lost his 10 heads. They were snatched hara means taken away that day was Rama vijaya dasmi day it is so exact can you mentions which day which event not only which day He appeared but so many other events is dated material this event happened. Rama was so many years old and this season and that season and that day and night time or morning hours, very very accurate. As it was complied during Rama’s time Rama was still on the planet infact He just completed His fourteen of exile and He has 11,000 years rule ahead of him at that juncture Ramayan was compiled.

So the story the pastimes were quit fresh to this day of course they have been kept alive and ever fresh by the devotees by reciting and preserving and relishing and propagating and sharing them to this day Ramayan has been kept very much intact. Also through this language it’s kind of internal language called Sanskrit. Same language same words 900000 (9hundred thousand) years the words every syllable is as it is. When other languages are just babies just have taken birth and they are growing evolving and ever changing also and off course this Sanskrit being the mother language the mother language. These babies are infant stage they are growing or Marathi same thing applies to the other languages. Marathi that was complied some 700 year ago by
Dnyaneshwar and then 350 years ago by Tukaram we have hard time its Marathi very much its different Marathi I am sure Gujarati and Punjabi and English language is ever changing. You look at some old text and you will have hard time reading and our BBT publishers are infact in great anxiety that Prabhupad’s books in English and how to preserve them. Preserve of course the philosophy as it is. Because the language is going to be changed in few hundred down the road English is going to be much different from what it is now.

So there is whole discussion about this in our Governing Body Commission meetings in Mayapur couple of years ago. Worried what to do is one of the issues concerned. So all the languages are changing and here is a language Sanskrit. Word hasn’t changed letters intact as it is, 900000 years. So the subject matter of Rama and Sita and their separation and what Rama is going through. To some of us may sound a mundane thing. However we should check ourselves. There is no change of trace of matter nothing material everything is spiritual about the dealing are all pure. Hence as we read them we hear them we are purified. If these dealing were mundane ordinary and this Rama’s cries ordinary kind then we would also be doomed by hearing this also not gain much so we should just keep this in mind this is Lords lila, His sringar rasa, His heart His feelings for Sita and that’s Him. We also heard when Jatayu which human being would undertake cremation of all the rights were performed of this bird Jatayu and the loss of that bird was over whelming. And he suffered even more than the suffering due to the loss of Sita. So His feeling is not only for Sita but also for Jatayu and also for me and you as Supreme Personality of Godhead. When His feelings they cannot be measured oh! He becomes a husband of somebody and He is unlimited and maybe beyond our comprehension.

We should not doubt or misunderstand His pastimes in some ways He is also kind of reminding this kind of trouble dealing with matajis dealing with women we could get in trouble and in one as Prabhupada was questioned by a reporter in Hyderabad and Prabhupada said even Lord becomes husband Rama became husband of Sita even He was no exception even He got into trouble. And in a way He is also reminding, aren’t you going through all this also? If you say this is not nice, why you would be crying and why all this trouble? But this is our daily affair we are going through all this. So wake up and do something. Women should be kept protected. If women are left unprotected then trouble is around the corner. So another lesson to be learned. That is why in our Vedic culture daughters are protected before marriage by the parents, once married the husband takes charge husband is protecting, and if husband later on goes for vanaprastha or sannyasa the elderly sons would then take charge of their mother. So in 3 stages Kaumaram Yauvanam jara there is someone to protect mataji or women. As soon as they are left unprotected there is some vulture there is some rakshasa some Ravan. He doesn’t have to be that Ramayan Ravanas size but Ravana for sure. Ravana is that person by definition who makes others cry. He become the cause of others distress and tears. That person is Ravana. So in good old day there use to be one Ravana or one Kumbhakarna or one Hiranyakashipu or Hiranyaksha. The numbers use to be smaller, giant size small numbers. Now the size is gone smaller but the numbers have increased. Hiranyakashipu and Ravanas are everywhere. Because this is not a Vedic culture, because this is not a Rama Raj or it is unofficially Ravana raj. No one is protected specially women is not protected. Very easily Rama could have found out another He was very beautiful, young and all His qualities. You say the quality and that was in Rama. He had that quality. So there was no need for Him to run after Sita or no need in searching for some time, He could have turned to someone and proposed or maybe called that Shurpanakha. She was pretty proposing. Hey! What is your phone number give me your phone number (Laughter) He wasn’t that type. And the civilized society also shouldn’t be that type. So He is endeavoring to meet with her, Catch-up with her, protect her, get her back.

So many things to be learned from Ramayan. From Rama’s pastime but we should make sure we should not misunderstand. Lords pastimes not doubt them as we become more pure we will understand. We could wait till our time comes for the understanding. On the day one don’t expect. We should expect to understand Rama as He is or Ramayan as it is. As one evolves in his consciousness in his purified, in his dealings or in his speech, purified mind and also chanting ‘Raghu pati raghava raja Rama patita pavan sita Rama sri Rama jai Rama jai jai Rama’ or our the best thing is the mantra for this age of kali for deliverance by chanting ‘Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.’ That one should chant before reading Ramayan chant Hare Krishna then chant again Hare Krishna after reading, before reading, in the middle of reading. This will help to understand Ramayan and others shastras also or if you have really understood Ramayan or Bhagvatam you should be chanting. The reason you are not chanting is because you have not heard enough Ramayan. The perfection of hearing about Rama is Ramayan. Perfection is in chanting, your tongue will begin uttering the names of Rama this is the result of your study. You understood Rama now your tongue wants to chant.

And as we chant we’ll understand Ramayan more as we understand Ramayan more we’ll chant more and like that go back and forth. Ramayan is Rama and His name is also Rama, non-different. Rama’s name is Rama, Rama’s pastimes Ramalila, Ramayan is Rama, Rama’s Prasad is Rama non different. His dhama Ayodhya dham cannot be separated from Sri Rama. Or like this.. Jai Hanuman. So on the banks of Pampa sarovar the meeting the great meeting took place between Rama Laxman and Hanuman. And again Hanuman is the most misunderstood personality. It’s not easy all the way he is presented so Rama is Bhagavan, laxman is also Bhagavan, Shatrughna is also Bhagavan, Bharata is also Bhagavan. I am not kidding, (Maharaj laughs) these all the four personalities are Vishnu tattva. Normally we take oh! Rama is Bhagavan maybe some others may think ok Laxman also, throw him in that Bhagvan list. But very rarely they think Bharat also being a Vishnu tattva and Shatrughna. And this is not our concoction. But this is understanding from Bhagvatam and Ramayan. So those who are Bhagvan they are not understood as Bhagavan but on who is not Bhagavan, that is Hanuman he is promoted to the status of Bhagavan. So Hanuman is Rama bhakta Hanuman. He is Rama Das. Who is Rama das? Hanuman. Not just that Rama das swami of Maharashtra. Rama das swami. Rama das is Hanuman. From 9 processes of devotional service one of them is dasyam. “Sravanam Kirtanam Vishnuh smaranam pada sevanam archanam vandanam dasyam sakhyam atma nivedanam”. So for each this devotional service nava vidha bhakti one devotee is remembered, one big name for that bhakti. So when we talk of dasya bhava, dasya bhava in bhakti then the first person remembered is Hanuman. Because he is powerful, he has mystics he is mystical. He has siddhies. As soon as there is some chamatkar people do some namaskar. Chamatkar namaskar. I can’t do this! He is producing some ash-ashes Sai then oh! He is bhagavan. So it’s not that just Hanuman is considered Bhagavan and oh! Kind of mysterious personality mystical power siddhi if he has amazing.

So the present day you will find not even one percent of siddhis which Hanuman possessed if someone has 1 % immediately he becomes Bhagvan. In India so many bhagvans are loitering on the streets here there. Bhagvan this aaj ka swami kal ka narayan (laughter) He goes by name swami swami for some time and then Narayan. Oh!your guru is only swami my guru is narayan (laughter) Swami narayan. So “bhukti mukti siddhi kami sakale ashant Krishna bhakta nishkam ata eva shanta” So there are so many kamis kamanas and desires and aspirations bhukti kami bhukti bhu-kami or mukti liberation kami or bhukti mukti sidhi-kami, siddha siddha purusha there are still kamana. They are all ashant they are not peaceful. “Krishna bhakta nishkam ata eva shant” Krishna bhakta has no desire so he is peaceful.

So Hanuman what he is going to do now as he meets he is going to, because he has to bring Rama and Laxman at the top of the mountain Rishyamukha parvat. He asked them to just have a ride here. So Rama sitting one side Laxman sitting other side he takes off. And he lands on the top of the mountain. His mystic siddhis are beginning like that. But he is using; Hanuman is using his siddhis in service of Rama. And he is fully aware this is by the grace of Sri Rama. Not that independently I am powerful. Gaura Nitai, Sita Rama Laxman hanuman ji ki jai. It was time for him to go to Lanka. Hanuman Flies did he go by some Air Lanka flights? When is the next flight going to, no he just flew and he also managed return flight. Some others were thinking I could go but I can’t come back some estimations were going on. Someone said I could go half way through and then jala Samadhi; I will be just dropped in the middle of Indian Ocean. Those who are searching for Sita. When it was time for Hanuman to go he flew. When it was time for Rama to go to Lanka He walked. So does that make Hanuman superior and Rama just ordinary mortal? Now all that power of Hanuman is due to Rama. And Hanuman is fully aware of this. So he never popularize himself as bhagvan. And bhagvan hanuman ki, say everybody bhagvan hanuman ki, (devotees said jai) bhagvan hanuman ki (devotees said jai) he (Hanuman) would have slapped you for addressing him as bhagvan. No..no.. It’s not me you know I don’t call myself bhagvan others call me bhagvan. But why don’t you shut them up. So Hanuman he was just a humble humble servant of Shri Rama always chanting His glories also. Always chanting names of Rama. Hath me Kaam Mukh me naam. Hands are full with the service of Rama and his mouth was full with names of Rama and always thinking of Rama.
Very intelligent also not just powerful but very intelligent personality and son of vayu. So in Ramayan some misunderstandings are there. So Hanuman is not always understood. We should beg for the mercy of Hanuman so that we get devotion and devotional service at the lotus feet of his master Sri Rama. So nothing wrong in worshiping Hanuman but should understand who is who? So as Sugriva had noticed that these two persons looked quite strange never seen them before and they are also equipped with weapons bow and arrow who they possibly could be? They are sent by Vali or they are spies? So he was scared so he sent Hanuman to find out and they both had introduced each other I am Laxman and Rama mentioned who they were and why they were there and Hanuman explained he was minister of Sugriva and Sugriva is also in similar difficulty he is also in exile his wife is also has been kidnapped Snatched by Vali and he is by himself here on this mountain on top of this mountain. You are in the similar boat and we just were informed by kabanda we just liberated him he was in very awkward situation. So he directed us infact we are on the way to Sugriva’s place and hoping to find assistance in searching Sita and rescuing Sita. So Hanuman says this seems very much promising and do able proposal. Yes yes I can also, so then Rama and Laxman were taken at the top of the mountain and meeting with the Sugriva. And quickly quickly they became friends. Rama Laxman and Sugriva they became friends. And Sugriva taking vow and yes from today onwards your happiness is my happiness your sorrow is my sorrow. And the vice versa. Meaning if I am happy you will be happy if I am distressed you also share my sorrow. We are friends now shaking hands and embracing took place. They kind of signed treaty and photographs taken (laughter) headlines in the monkey community. Yes yes we are looking for Sita Oh! That must be that lady who was screaming. Oh! We saw her going airways. And she was screaming Rama Rama Rama and not only that by seeing us here on the top of the mountain she threw her part of her upper garment and seen some of her ornaments in there. We are confident that must be Sita you are looking for. So from all the way that Godavari so getting more clues which way Ravan had travelled so he had come that far also Kishkinda Pradesh mountains.

So then the cloth and some ornaments tied in there. As they were presented to Rama or just by hearing this could be Sita’s garment and her ornaments Rama was further moved and over whelmed and He was in tears just remembering Sita. He managed to untie, He was trying to look at those ornaments and recognise but how could He it was not possible for Him because His eyes are full of tears. Was no clear His eyes were full of tears well up. So He couldn’t even Oh! They are ornaments that I can say but they are Sita’s, Laxman Laxman he called Laxman over. Please see these earrings aren’t they of Sitas and what about these armlets? “Naham janami kundale” Laxman says no I could not recognise her earrings, I never looked at her ears and earrings. No I can’t recognise these armlets also ha ha Oh! This ankle bells this “painjan nupure abhi janami nityam padami vandane” yes I could these are Sita’s ankle bells. Because whenever I offered my obeisance’s nityam the first thing I saw every day was her ankle bells or for sure these are Sita’s ankle bells. Don’t ask me about earrings and armlet and her necklace and no I never looked. I only looked at those feet so I could recognise. So it was confirmed that Ravan went that way and so Sita had to be searched.

So now it was not only Rama and Laxman but Sugriva and his some ministers had joined the mission and there could be many more thousands to joining but there was Vali was obstacle the brother of Sugreev so he had to be removed. So the battle between two brothers the fears battle begins. And Rama had to help out in this battle. They are battling and battling and hiding behind a tree Rama had shot an arrow making Vali the target and ‘how could you do this to me? This is injustice, Injustice so Rama steps forward and He was ready to pull the arrow out ‘Oh I can take it out’ and Vali had a second thought no no let me die I have such a rare opportunity my death is everybody’s death is certain but here I get to die by your hand by your arrow in your presence. No no no no please don’t take this arrow out don’t take it back let me die in your presence. Such a rare good fortune I have. So that was the end of Vali and now I am still here I am still here Vali is finished (Laughter).

So as Vali no more than the whole kingdom they were brothers so the whole kingdom capital and army mostly of monkeys. They were in the forest so lots of monkeys. Monkey like beings and then they search the serious battle plans were worked out whole strategy. But first thing is identifying the enemy than evaluating his strength then preparing corresponding strength of army and. So Hanuman and Jambavan and others were dispatched. Go go everywhere and infact so many others also were searching for Sita. So searching rest of the south Indian continent they couldn’t find so they come all the way to the tip of the kanya kumari and the brother of Jatayu, Sampatti he was there and he heard the news of Jatayu’s death from these messengers these people looking for Sita. He was full of sorrow to hear that news so he gave some clues. Yes yes Ravan this way Lanka, he is found in Lanka so he is not in Bharat varsha not in India. You have to go to Lanka to find him and then different team members were kind of estimating their strength who could go all the way and come back and so no one was competent to go and come also flying there and back.

Only Hanuman so he flew it’s a wonderful description the way he flew and different encounters on the way to Lanka. The intelligent Hanuman, powerful Hanuman, determined Hanuman, the mystical Hanuman. When he Lands there is one house he is surprised there is tulasi in the house and Rama Rama Rama Rama… the names of Rama being uttered and he goes (knocking at the door) come on in he was welcomed. That was Bibhishan, Bibhishan was a devotee of Rama. He gives some clues where about Sita, Sita is in Ashok Van Hanuman taking different forms and becoming invisible and small he gets there and he found Sita. Jai Sita Maharani ki Jai, She is there. So he was carrying the ring and first She thought oh! Another demon and he is come in a monkey form, I had seen other form he has taken the other form. No no..no..I am messenger of Shri Rama any proof, so Sita was delighted as if she came in contact with Rama just by touching that ring of Sri Rama. And this whole news of what Rama and Laxman are going through and where they are stationed at and Hanuman even proposes ‘You know Sita lets go. Sit here lets go back, Sita besides some other arguments she gives wise why she should not go with Hanuman. The main point also ‘no no I am only Rama’s Sita I cannot touch another man. It will be more honourable if Rama personally comes kills that Ravana and rescues me and takes me back.
Not this hiding way and going with another man, no no I can’t do this. You come back with my Rama. Thank you for your proposal but it cannot be that way. So as Hanuman was ready to go back, (Hanuman asks) is there anything that you would like to share with me a present or a proof that we actually met? So before she gave a jewel. A very special jewel she was carrying. She tells Hanuman that ‘You share this event with Rama. If He hears that you heard this from me He will be convinced that we had met.’ Then she mentioned that episode from Chitrakoot where they both were sitting on one sphatik shila there’s one special shila in the middle of Mandakini river one time they were sitting and I just finished taking bath and my clothes were just wet and Rama He came He sat on my lap. Then there was a crow. He was trying to reach me touch me and eat flesh. We were trying to drive him away then after a while he was sitting and I sat next to Him and I even dozed off in His lap. And so did He after a while we don’t know how much time we spent. Dozy sleepy state but that bird had come again and he had made my breast the target. And I was sleepy I did not notice when we woke up there’s a blood and Rama noticed he looked around there was a crow some blood still dripping from his beaks. Rama became furious He took some kusha grass from His mated lock of hair and powered it with bramha-astra and send it to that crow. Crow was flying and travelling all over the universe as the bramhastra was chasing after him. Even that bird’s father Indra, Indra’s son Jayant he had taken the form of crow and he was kind of lusty after Sita. So he couldn’t come in front in that Jayant human form but he had become a crow.

So finally yes he could find shelter nowhere else. That crow returned and surrendered to Rama and beg for forgiveness. Rama forgive him but he said as my astra has been released it has to do something, something at least if not killing. So finally that astra wounded the right eye of that crow just a eye. So just share this pastime with Sri Rama and He will be convinced that we met. Because no one else knows it’s just between me and my Rama. But also tell Him what happened Rama who could not tolerate this crow’s action just touching me or scratching me and He had become furious and sent His bramhastra to kill that crow. Why is He waiting now? Isn’t Ravan’s act bad enough worse enough to take action? Why is He waiting? How is He tolerating this? So some kind of challenge, throwing challenge at Sri Rama also. So that He will take this matter seriously. Not only that we met but why is He taking so long and lightly.

So then Hanuman was hungry and there are more pastimes of Hanuman. Damaging all the best gardens of Lanka, off routed all the trees and the monkey doesn’t you know take few fruits and cut it into pieces and eat them only rest of the fruits to be eaten next time, no not monkey they just throws away and he is playing shaking the tree and having fun. Trying to get attention of some other rakshasas. And then rakshasas come to see him and he was arrested. Hanuman and Ravana sent 80,000 rakshsas to capture Hanuman so was the strength of Hanuman. It took 80,000 rakshsas to take. And then as he was brought before and then his attempt to insult and even possibly kill burn Hanuman his tail was tied with so many clothes and pore oil and lit that and Hanuman really had fun. Jumping from building to building, palace to palace putting his tail into windows and some place and then next one, soon whole Lanka was on fire. And it was of golden so whole thing was melting down. And so finally the sampling of Ravana to understand little sample of Rama’s power this is only Hanuman what to speak of when Rama comes. How much display of power that is going to be. So Hanuman goes back and the jeweled has been presented and whole good news ‘Aaj ki taji khabar’ and everyone was so delighted that good morning news.

And then they were prepared now they knew, prior to that they did not knew where to go. They were just going everywhere they were just looking. Now they knew exactly which way to go and strength of enemy camp . So Rama and Laxman Sugriva and Jambavan and Angadh and thousands. Mostly they were monkeys and some bear bhalu, two kinds of army. So they come all the way to Rameshwar and then they want to cross Lord Rama was waiting samudra devata to come forward offer some assistance in crossing he was taking some extra time so Rama was, it was intolerable for him but as He took His bow and arrow then samudra devata really rushed forward . Then the building of the bridge setu begins there’s a longest bridge in the world that this Hanuman and company was going to build. And they were throwing whatever came in their way the trees and the mountains and big big boulders have been thrown. There were personality is like nal and neel right? nal and neel. They were just writing the names before the object touch the water they make sure the Rama’s name is stamped. As soon as the name Rama the mountains were floating at the top. That way they could go fast otherwise if they have to start from the depth that would take ages. So that law of gravitation wasn’t working here. The controller of the maker creator of the law of gravitation was there Sri Rama so He ruled out ’No this cannot be applied here ok.’ He is law maker Law breaker. He is one in all. So everything was floating and then they are building walking building walking building walking. Some 800 miles bridge even those so called dead objects could float by name of Rama. And we are not even dead we are living we are alive if we could chant the names of ‘Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare’ also free from the law of something that seeks us. No falling down and sinking down. Floating in this ocean and going forwards if this name of Rama and Krishna we chanted. And then we hear of that little squirrel (gilahari) she thought I will also contribute my share and that’s not strong but whatever “patram pushpam”. So that squirrel was going on the beach sandy beaches and squirrel has hairy body so she was rolling in the sand and picking up some particle of sand and gently walking making sure all the sand picked up stays intact. Then she would climb and then she would shake the body taking all the sand particle off. Acting like a little cement between two rocks. Hey! Get out of here, you want to die? Hanuman was thinking what is this we are bringing big big mountains and she is bringing 50 gram sand what good is this get lost go take rest, see you later.

So Rama was overseeing over hearing this comments statements of Hanuman yes come here come here I said come here. Then Hanuman begins looking back (laughter) giving others impression that he doesn’t mean me, someone behind me. That when we wake someone up who is sleeping in the Bhagvatam (Laughter) and that person looks behind so that others would think that the speaker is pointing out infact someone not him but someone (laughter). No no ..you you I say You then Rama had to give little bhashan little lessons, some chastisement, he was rebuked what do you think, who do you think, give up this pride, whatever strength I have given you, you are utilizing it cent percent in my service. And whatever energy I have invested in a squirrels body she is also not sparing anything for herself she is giving 100%. So in my eyes service of both of you is same. Why do you think your services, you are big servant and she is small servant? Something in our daily life this thing also come handy useful.

So then finally they were there in Lanka. Jai Sri Rama Jai Sri Rama.. armies roaring scaring the enemies and they are also getting together and sharpening their weapons. So there is big big battle one whole kanda. One division has been devoted to that special like a Mahabharat Battle. World has seen so many battles but why is Mahabharat and this Ramayan Lanka battle important because the presence of Rama and Krishna they are personally present. In those battle and while participating in those battles they wish to establish, they will establish the dharma principles of dharma ‘paritranay sadhunam vinasayacha dushkritam dharma samsthapnarthaya sambhavani yugeyuge’ Lord was there to wipe out He had taken that vow in Ramtek do you remember ? When He had seen those skulls and skeletons of the sages’ bodies and He had taken that ‘I will wipe out finish all the demons from this planet’. So this was His opportunity. All the big demons at one place so He was at the right place at the right time. And He had a right strategy the best vision. So there was not only Ravana but also Kumbhakarna they are two brothers. Previously there were Hiranyaksha and Hiranyakashipu and they were going to appear again at time of Rama, the form of Shishupal and Dantavakra not kamsa he is another one. He has his own category. These two Jaya Vijay they are going through these three ages. Each time Lord had to appear but then we hear that they heard in dwapar yuga that soon Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu will appear and He will exhibit the most wonder pastimes. So they decided to extend their visa (laughter). They should be going after three births they were told. You could be demons 3 births or devotees for 7 births take a pick. They thought oh! No no.. 7 birth is long time being away from you Lord and the services as gate keepers. We don’t mind even as a demon but we’ll quickly finish our terms and be back. But they couldn’t resist the temptation of being with Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu and He was about to appear near some 5000 year near from Lord Krishna’s appearance time. So they stayed on they appeared Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s time they appeared in the form of Jagai and Madhai. And their demoniac quality this time was killed by the holy name.

In previous ages some weapon had to be used some special weapon was used. And this time also as Caitanya Mahaprabhu is Krishna Himself sudarshan… He was invoking His weapon. Sudarshan was had appeared was ready making circles and blazing like a fire and it had 1000 what you called spokes? Spokes are inside, spikes. And then Nityananda Prabhu no..no..no.. this is the age of kali. If you would want to kill the demons then well, nobody would be left in NewYork (Laughter) maybe few in Jersy ok (laughter). So Caitanya Mahaprabhu had to be reminded by Nityananda Prabhu who is playing a role of a spiritual master. He is Balaram, He is Laxman, He is Shankarshan, and He is Adi-guru. And then they had taken vows. Wonderful pastime of Jagai Madhai in Caitanya lila. So by seeing kindness of Nityananda Prabhu and Caitanya Mahaprabhu the both brothers Jagai and Madhai their demoniac nature were subdued. And they were ready for surrender full surrender. And they promised to break no more principles we’ll follow we’ll be strictly vegetarian. No more intoxication. No more illicit connections with women. No gambling and we’ll always chant ‘Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare’ and they were liberated but liberation is nothing they are just a beginning they developed all love for the Lord that’s more important than the liberation part. They became great lovers of the Lord and especially great lovers of the holy name.

“dina hina yata chila hari name uddharila tara sakshi jagai madhai” Someone said what is the proof? That holy name liberates someone, give love of Godhead to somebody? can you prove any example yes “tara sakshi jagai madhai”. The life of Jagai and Madhai is a witness is a poof. So like this they completed infact 3+1= 4 life cycles and then they go back. So at time of in treta yuga they had appeared as Ravana and Kumbhakarna. Kubhakarna was a very special personality. He would mostly sleep whenever he was hungry he would get up. Oh! you know some of such people around? (Laughter) Once their belly is full then again (snoring).. So this was not his hunger time this is battle field. So he had to be woken up by beating up drums, big endeavour to get him up. And there was a Meghanada, Indrajeet Indrajeet he had even conquered Indra in battle. Son of Ravana was very powerful. One time he even conquered Indra. And as a reward he was one of the rewards, that he received this name Indrajeet. Conquer of Indra I have to become known as concur of Indra. Let the world know I have conquered Indra, Indrajeet.
So he was also mystical and had some special arrows as a result one time Laxman goes unconscious and nothing worked out and was recommended oh! Some jadibutti or sanjivani. Oh! Where could it be found Himalayas. As if Himalaya was just around the corner. So who would go? You know there is no courier service or anything. So Hanuman again was dispatched he went again flying. But once he was there he couldn’t recognize which one is sanjivani. They are looking alike so he just picked up the mountain whole mountain (Maharaj laugh). I’ll just bring the mountain let them help themselves I’ll do my part. So he brought the whole mountain so they were waiting when is he coming when is he coming? In Lanka they were waiting because without Laxman everything would stand still situation and Rama was in anxiety and everyone else was. So finally they see Hanuman coming this whole mountain he is carrying and places that mountain and sanjivani and. This is again lila there is no nothing could influence the transcendental form body of Laxman. So some setbacks are shown like that in that battle and that appropriate time had come. Kumbhakarna was already killed and then finally the great good fortune descended upon Ravana he was waiting for that opportunity for darshan of Rama, not much more to be done in Lanka so Sita has been rescued. And Sita well there is a agni pariksha? Agni pariksha is there. The Sita has to prove she has maintained her purity her chastity and just to clarify others doubt, her entering fire coming out untouched by the fire was a full proof.
Well here everything is not always made obvious other references are there to know more that the Sita that was kidnapped by Ravana is not the original Sita. She is just a chaya Sita – shadow Sita. The Ravana doesn’t even have right to touch or he couldn’t even go near to Sita. So right there original Sita is invisible. So when at the time of this agni pariksha again the original Sita walks out of fire and joins Rama. Then that shadow Sita was playing roll of Sita and remembering Rama and thinking of Rama. She also wants to marry Sri Rama and that marriage has taken place in Tirupati Balaji lila. With Balaji you see two consorts so one of them is one was Sita in Lanka, so that she also gets the hand of Lord for rendering that service. She becomes Lords consort wife so now as Sita has been rescued Lanka has no king so Bibhishan has been installed. He’s enthrone as a king, Lord doesn’t, He could’ve become a king himself very easily. He could have done the same thing with Kamsa in Mathura. But did He become the king? No He made Kamsa’s father Ugrasen the king. And Jarasndh was killed He could also have become king there. But He makes Sahadev who was son of Jarasandh. Another Sahadev not five pandava. His son is also Jarasandh. He is made the king. So here also in Lanka brother is no more so Bibhishan who was a devotee of Rama and he had already kind of fled. When they entered Lanka with Rama’s army so Bibhishan was with them. They were not getting along and Ravana was not following the good advice given by Bibhishan. He was happy to join Sri Rama. So having that ceremony is completed of enthroning coronation of Bibhishan then oh! what’s the time? Not that it’s five minutes after 9 but very close to completion of 14 years of exile. I better hurry up not me Rama has to hurry up (laughter). Promise is promise and if I delay no more Bharat darshan.

So Rama had come walking all the way. He is kind of going south if you look at the map of India from Ayodhya going to Pragayraj then Triveni sangam current Allahabad Chitracut and coming to Nagpur near Nagpur is that Ramtek then going kind of south west towards Godavari and from there going towards Kishkindha which is present day Maharashtra and Karnataka border. And from there He goes to Rameshwar side and from there He goes to Lanka. So He is going all the way keeps going so He has come quite a long distance away walking and searching for Sita.
So He could have gone back also walking. But that would not have worked out the time factor wise. To reach there faster the pushpak viman some flower aircraft has been arranged and Rama, Sita, Laxman, Hanuman and Sugreev and Bibhishan also and many others and then we did not mention. Sri Rama he revived all, many monkeys had also left their bodies in the battle so Lord woke them up or gave them life back. They are happy to rejoin the part of Bibhishan and Rama’s kingdom. If you go to Ayodhya there are lots of monkeys there. Last month we were there and they are very bold monkeys. We were carrying some bag in your hand they will come stop you they will take bag from your hand they’ll open you could do nothing they will check whatever they like and then you may go (Maharaj laughs) so many monkeys there.

So as they were in the plane there is a description it was going just above the bridge that was built and Rama was showing Sita look look she looked down. We built this just to reach Lanka is all our task and He was giving some running commentaries as they were proceeding. So kind of Kishkindha was going over and comes to Bharadwaj muni’s asharm. He was going to stop over there. This is at Allahabad- Prayagraj better to call it Prayagraj its original name otherwise its allah allaaahu akbar that allaha allaha baad is there. Whenever there is a name ends with baad this baad that baad Faridabad murdabad and many baads are there sikandrabad that means it’s like that Hyderabad. In Marathi baad means bekar, baad ho gaya -out. So Prayagraj so there from there Rama send Hanuman ahead of them ‘hey Hanuman you better rush you just inform Bharat that we are just now coming we are just on our way. Because Hanuman goes faster than Rama’s aircraft. So he was hanumans was dispatched and there he was at Nandigram outskirts of Ayodhya, Bharat was keeping an eye.

So many so many hours to go and 30 minutes to go. He’s counting countdown was going on. Good that Hanuman is coming in the air flying and so news quickly spread over all Ayodhya and they were preparing to receive Rama new clothes they are distributing sweets and just embracing each other and streets were being cleaned and all arches all mangal vadhya all auspicious sound instruments and mantras and everybody is heading towards the direction that he is coming from. Which was basically Nandigram where Bharat had stationed himself from past fourteen years. And finally got the life back as they saw a plane coming effulgent Rama seated on that plane Sita Laxman.

Everyone is fixed focused no one spaced out. Only Rama was on their mind, so wherever Rama was their eyes were fixed on that Rama. As if He was coming towards them. Yes He was coming towards them. And finally He was with them and kind of jubilation expression on joy they were dancing and the pranam mudras and embracing each other and reading up by bramhanas and swastivachan blowing up conch shells. Rama was greeting elders and Brahmans and the mothers were there Kaushalya, KaiKai, Sumitra. So there whole procession back to the palace. Whole city had a new look new face bright delighted. That was diwali time whole town was lit with lamps. Deep-avali rows of lamps deepawali availi – rows of lamp everywhere was lit. So from dashera from Lanka to diwali in Ayodhya and now the promise was kept 14 years of exile vanavas. Rama is back so Bharat was more than willing he never had considered himself a king or prince he was only keeping shoes of Rama on the throne he was ruling. And now he was ready to hand everything over to Sri Rama. So all the preparations grander than ever before 14 years ago there were some preparations were on and Kaikai had heard about it and everything had changed.

So one more time and now Rama Sita they take their throne and whole Rama darbar is there and Hanuman holding different symbols and somebody is fanning and Hanuman is also there and the whole assembly praja is there Vashishth ji. So all the proper vidhi purvak following all the process chanting of the mantras and fire yagya and auspicious invocations or prayers, mantras the coronation ceremony took place. Jai Sri Rama and then Rama raj begins which lasted for 11,000 years. And rajya like that kingdom that world has not seen not seen. So even after 900000 years, some 60 years ago it was time for India to become independent nation. Getting released from the clutches of the British raj. Atleast there were some talk of making India Rama raj. Wishful thinking as soon as we had the first prime minister ‘kissa kursi ka’. One he had a throne that Rama raj concept was dumped in the dustbin and he had a dream of making India the modern country, modern nation. Declaring oh these dams and these factories these are our temples. So he declared although born in a Brahmin family he was but he had western upbringing. So he used to iron his cloths in Paris and fly them to New Delhi and then he would put them on. So what could have been expected from such a personality and soon one who had a dream of Rama raj he ended up, with ‘Hey Rama’. But atleast he was remembered Rama, Ram was remembered. Mahatma gets credit for even thinking of making the country into Rama Raj just for thinking also. But during Rama raj it was wonderful raj. People living long long life thousands of years. That was the time for living long life also. 100000 year was a life span in sati yuga. It is reduced gets reduced as kaliyug is expected 100 years. When I was there in South Africa their life span has been reduced to 33 years. Because half of the population is suffering from aids so some are dying in teen age and some 20s and some in 60s so middle 33.

So Rama’s time no disease no old age. And if you don’t want to die that’s fine you could live long. It would never happened that father is alive and son is dead or father is doing the cremation of son this is not possible in Rama’s time. When Rama like raja is a ruler then everything is auspicious. So you are welcome to study Ramayan more thoroughly we had to only run only touching touch and go we were doing. All the pastime some skipping, some mentioning only. So this is just appetizer for you. Main meal oh! You could take main meal at home it’s a home work for you. You could study Ramayan or Bhakti vikas Maharaj has also translated summary study of Valmiki Ramayan. He has English and also published in hindi so another devotee also what’s his name? another English dharma in Iskcon? – Krishna dharma ok like that. Or if you want to study original Sanskrit than Valmiki Sanskrit Ramayan. You may also undertake such serious studies. So may these life and pastimes and teachings of Rama be source of all inspiration and infact life without shri Rama we’re just dead prananti. These pastime of Rama, Sri Krishna give us life otherwise we are dead and always keep chanting ‘Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare’ and do your best, uphold the principles given by Rama and Ramayan in your day to day life and try to spread that sense that ways Rama raj to start with your home you have little kingdom there you are king see whether you could charity begins at home start there expand. One family could take it to other compound from other side they could expand it. Ok Jai Sri Rama.




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Venue: Germany Bhagvat saptha (Ajamil Katha series – Fifth session)

So we heard this morning pretty strong argument or the case made by Yamadutas justifying their action and decision of bringing Ajamila to the court of Yamaraja.

“Yatra dandena suddhyati” (S.B. 6.1.68).

They were also thinking of the welfare they were well-wishers of Ajamila. They wanted to see Ajamila purified. But now we’ll hear from Vishnudutas, now it is their turn. They were the advocates of the Holy Name and they will try to make ya they will now be talking. They say what are you talking of that you would like him to be purified once he is there in Yamaloka and dandena, he is getting beating, then you will come to the senses? No..no..it’s all done, he has become already purified. It’s too late, so this is something that Yamadutas could not realize.
They were going by the external circumstances and so they listed the whole list of sinful activities; illicit sex, stealing and drinking and all sorts of breaking rules and deviating from the prescribed standards, Vedic standards.

So, so this morning and this early afternoon it’s our fourth session and three more to go. Mostly we will be hearing Vishnudutas during this session and how Yamadutas dropped Ajamila, drop him there, leave him behind, leave there at his home and they go to court of Yamaraja and then for a while there was just Ajamila and the four Vishnudutas and they also disappeared and Ajamila begins to regret as he reflects his previous sinful life and is very grateful that Vishnudutas rescued him and of course he was greatly benefited and specially by the dialogue of the two parties, specially Vishnudutas and then that’s where the session ends and begins the regretting session. He begins his session of regret and talks as he regrets.

sri-visnuduta ucuh (Vishnudutas said)

“aho kastam dharma-drsam adharmah sprsate sabham
yatradandyesv apapesu dando yair dhriyate vrtha” (S.B. 6.2.2)

This is very painful, this is troubling us. “Aho kastam dharma-drsam” – persons interested in maintaining religion that is Yamaraja and his whole court, the judges, the record keepers’ right there. Persons who are supposed to be upholding the principles of religion, their court we see adharma, they are supposed to be practicing and upholding principles of dharma but we see they are doing just the contrary, “adharmah sprsate sabham” – the assembly of Yamaraja is full of irreligious acts, they are wrong decisions. “Yatradandyesv apapesu dando yair dhriyate vrtha” – uselessly the person who is sinless, apapesu – he is sinless and should never get punished, such persons are getting punished, such persons are rewarded punishment and this is vrtha, unnecessary this is useless.

The Vishnudutas accused; purport – The Vishnudutas accused the Yamadutas for violating the religious principles by attempting to drag Ajamila to Yamaraja for punishment. Yamaraja is the officer appointed by the Supreme Personality of Godhead to judge religious and irreligious principles and to punish people who are irreligious. However, if completely sinless people are punished, the entire assembly of Yamaraja is contaminated. This principle applies not only in the assembly of Yamaraja, but throughout human society also. So, this is going on right there in the court of Yamaraja. He has appointed by the the Supreme Lord to be the judge but they are punishing the sinless people and we declare that, Vishnudutas see the Yamaraja is contaminated, assembly of Yamaraja is contaminated.

Then Prabhupada wants to extend this situation or statement to the whole world that their assemblies and parliament houses are also contaminated and then Prabhupada makes observation, it is said that in the Kali-yuga if one cannot spend money in court, one cannot get justice, and this is happening with us right now also in India, Bangalore temple case. Indeed, in courts of justice it is often found that magistrates are bribed for favorable judgments. Sometimes religious men who preach the Krishna consciousness movement for the benefit of the entire populace are arrested and harassed by the police and courts. Vishnudutas, who are Vaishnavas, lamented for these very regrettable facts. Prabhupada is also talking from his experiences; Iskcon was taken to the courts, to the New York courts. Prabhupada was accused also for brain-washing charges. There were so many parents, American parents of Srila Prabhupada’s boys and girl disciples, they got together and made a case, this Swamiji has brain-washed our children, brain-washing charges. Prabhupada said, “Yes, you dirtied their brains, they made their brains dirty and I washed. So did I do good or bad? For this I should be rewarded, not punished.” Brain-wash, washing is good, right? Cleaning is good, that’s what I did. So these are regrettable facts. So these days, bribe judges for favorable judgments, so where is the justice?

prajanam pitaro ye ca sastarah sadhavah samah
yadi syat tesu vaisamyam kam yanti saranam prajah” (S.B. 6.2.3)

This is the population depends on authorities or judges for justice but if they become partial, partiality, favoring someone and doing injustice. Those who are supposed to be giving justice, judges, if they do this kind of injustice to the dependents , to the citizens, then “kam yanti saranam prajah” the prajah the population, where should they go? Whose shelter should they take? Unto whom they could depend? If persons become polluted and exhibit partiality by punishing an innocent, blameless person, where will citizens go to take shelter for their maintenance and security? This is question by Vishnudutas.

Prabhupada writes in the purport, the duty of the government, therefore, is to take charge of training all the citizens in such a way that by a gradual process they will be elevated to the spiritual platform and will realize the self and his relationship with God. This principle was followed by kings like Maharaja Yudhisthira, King Pariksit, Lord Ramacandra, Maharaja Ambarisa and Prahlada Maharaja. The leaders of the government must be very honest and religious because otherwise all the affairs of the state will suffer. Unfortunately, in the name of democracy, rogues and thieves are electing other rogues and thieves to the important posts in the government. Prabhupada says that’s why he said there’s assembly of the donkeys then they will elect? Who would they elect? Mahadonkey, there’s one amongst them who is a mahadonkey, they will elect so there’s no difficulty. Then Prabhupada is talking of some American history, recently this has been proven in America, where the president had to be condemned and dragged down from his post by the citizens. This is only one case, but there are many others. So go for them; Prabhupada is kind of happy that citizens dragged President of America down from his post, ok step down step down. So Prabhupada is wanting to see that this happens in other countries also. But who would they elect? The next person they appoint is, there is no person like Yudhishtir Maharaj and Prahlad Maharaj, Ramachandra, Parikshit, they don’t just exist, not around or if they are, they would not be elected.

Like one time one Prabhupada disciple, he wanted to run for political post in America and Prabhupada encouraged him and his party was named as ‘In God we trust’ party’s name was ‘In God we trust’. And what is his name? Balwant. So Prabhupada disciple his name was and is Balwant, he’s still very active, he’s a lawyer he is practicing lawyer now. So he was running for some post it wasn’t for the parliament, central government but for regional and he was…Prabhupada thought this was at least opportunity for getting our message across. There was not much chances of getting elected because our candidate, he was saying the leadership follow four regulative principles, no meat-eating, no intoxication, no illicit sex, no gambling. Such leadership is, now such leader is elected then public knows he’s going to insist that they follow such rules also. So they were not ready. So he got few votes, few people voted for his party. So his party was defeated but it was taken as still a victory, he got to preach, there were lots of interviews of press, he was attending his public addresses and he was getting some news across some message across Krishna Krishna something was getting printed in the American history for the first time. The word Krishna was appearing. So one time devotees in morning walk in Delhi they were proposing Prabhupada they were walking very close to the President’s palace in New Delhi, and disciples were saying, Prabhupada, you should be the president of India. Prabhupada said I will rather be spiritual master of or to the President of India. You get that? Of the President. That he would just guide his disciple who is the President of India that he runs the country. In other words, for maintaining his Brahmanical status did not step down to the kshatriya administration board. So I would rather be the Spiritual Master of the President of India, not the President itself. So when we have the Holy Name which is saving Ajamila here, so that name, when that name will reach every town and every village of Europe and Africa and America all over then the chanters of the Holy Name will elect the Presidents and Prime Ministers, they would be Vaishnavas. So that is the future. That’s the future of this world.
Radha Madanmohan ki Jai !

<p>”yad yad acarati sreyan itaras tat tad ihate
sa yat pramanam kurute lokas tad anuvartate” (S.B. 6.2.4)

So in next how many years? 500,000 years 2, 3, 4, 5000 years many governments then turns the 10,000 year…all the governments will be Krishna Conscious Governments, leaders and it was the prediction of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. The Holy Name is going to reach every town and village. And prediction is that all population will be of Hari bhaktas, there will be Hari bhaktas everywhere. So, when they vote, they will vote for Krishna, vote for Krishna bhakta. The mass of people follow the example of a leader in society and imitate his behavior, Vishnudutas are speaking. They accept as evidence whatever the leader accepts. And there’s a purport, although Ajamila was not punishable, the Yamadutas were insisting on taking him away to Yamaraja for punishment. This was adharma, contrary to religious principles. The Vishnudutas feared that if such irreligious acts were allowed, the management of human society would be spoiled. In modern times, the Krishna consciousness movement is trying to introduce the right principles of management for human society, but unfortunately the governments of Kali-yuga do not properly support the Hare Krishna movement because they do not appreciate its valuable service. The Hare Krishna movement is the right movement for ameliorating, does anyone knows this word ameliorating? (Someone answers improving) improving, is it a German word or? (Latin word) the fallen condition of human society, and therefore governments and public leaders in every part of the world should support this movement to completely rectify humanity’s sinful condition. Pretty ambitious vision, Prabhupada has and he is thinking like this on behalf of Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu. This is Lord’s vision also.

So Prabhupada, the representative of Sri Krishna, sakshat Hari, he is thinking like that, therefore Governments and public leaders in every part of the world should support this movement completely to completely rectify humanity’s sinful condition. Do you agree? That’s why he wanted the society with Brahmanas, the brahmanas are leaders. Present day society is, what kind of society he said? Headless society, headless. Could you imagine your body without head? So body is there, human society is body but there’s no head. Then it acts like a headless chicken. Chicken is we do this (cut) and then chicken is for few more minutes it jumps, it doesn’t know which way where it is jumping, how where in the ditch where, it is jumping. So present day society is also jumping and running going no one knows where. ‘Buddhi-nasat what happens? pranasyati’ (Bg 2.63). We know where everyone is going, when there’s no head, no intelligence, then there’s a nash, destruction, gliding down to the hellish conditions. So Prabhupada is concerned and of course he would like us to imbibe that concern, cultivate that concern, we are his representatives, as he was expecting; we read this morning, the representative has to know the master’s mission, philosophy of the master’s institution. These are concerns of Prabhupada. So we are also concerned. Prabhupada was concerned.

<p>”ayam hi krta-nirveso janma-koty-amhasam api
yad vyajahara vivaso nama svasty-ayanam hareh” (S.B. 6.2.7)

Ayam – this person, krta-nirveso- he has already undergone atonement prayaschit, what is that? He had chanted the name of the Lord. Svasty-ayanam hareh – he had chanted the all auspicious name of Hari and he has vivaso – helplessly, “ayi nanda tanuja kinkaram” like that, and just I am your servant O! Lord but I am fallen in this ocean of material, material existence ocean. So, please please pick me up. So that was, that kind of helplessness was there and his son was playing, Narayana was playing and he was approaching him and also chanting saying Narayana Narayana and vivaso nama yad vyajahara – he had chanted name of Lord helplessly, so the potency and the benefit of the name that he had chanted is good enough to make this person free from the sins which he had committed not only this life but all the previous lives. Koty janma – millions of births; whatever sins he has committed all nullified, all counteracted. He had chanted the Holy Name of the Lord. Purport – Yamadutas had considered only the external situation of Ajamila. Since he was extremely sinful throughout his life, they thought he should be taken to Yamaraja and did not know that he had become free from the reactions of all his sins. Prabhupada is clarifying that, Prabhupada knew that Yamadutas did not know.

“etenaiva hy aghono ’sya krtam syad agha-niskrtam
yada narayanayeti jagada catur-aksaram” (S.B. 6.2.8)

And further “aghono ’sya krtam syad agha-niskrtam yada narayanayeti jagada catur-aksaram”, the further clarification“etena” means by that chanting Narayan Narayan…. Let us chant now, who knows, we should always do chanting, let’s get some chanting done. This is what these three chapters, this episode is meant to inspire us to do what? Chanting. It’s like a story, sounds nice, it’s very interesting and getting chanting done. We don’t take chanting seriously after going through all these ins and outs and detailed description of greatness mahatmya, Hari Naam mahatmya is what is being described here, communicated here, that we have to learn.

We were travelling our Narada Muni travelling sankirtan party we were travelling in North India we were in a town called Lucknow. They had a big pandal program going on, stage program, so many sadhus coming and making presentations of whatever; different philosophies. So the organizers they came to us and they were inviting us to come and do our thing, presentation and I think the topic was the Hari Naam, some kind of Hari Naam mela, Hari Naam kirtan was the topic. So what should we do? Should we give a long lecture on the glories of the Holy Name? They said, no no that is what everyone else is doing. They are doing lots of glories of chanting, importance of chanting, they are all sighting so many scriptures but they are not chanting, talking about chanting but not chanting. So we would like you to come, we don’t care whether you speak but we know you Hare Krishna devotees are very popular for your chanting, singing, we have heard so much. So if you wish you could speak but we would like you to do kirtan, come and sing. We have heard enough of these glories of Holy Name, it’s nice but we want to see some practical demonstration, how this is to be chanted and how it is done and how to get audience come and chant and personally dance.

So this was they were regretting, others were coming and talking about chanting but not chanting. So, three days if we talk about chanting, glories of chanting the Holy Name but then we have to take chanting more seriously, more “vivaso” – helplessly and one thing is this person chanting, his chanting is not offensive this is the point. So no offenses, Ajamila chanted but he has not committed any offenses. He was not chanting for the strength, for committing sins on the strength of the Holy Name. He was sinful but he was not chanting to get free from the reactions of his sins. So his chanting is considered proper and he is just deriving benefit from chanting Narayana Narayana Narayana and one of the Acharyas we read yesterday that he was not aware, Ajamila was not aware but the fact was that he was getting purified by that chanting Narayan Narayan Narayan. So same thing here. So now the Vishnudutas say, yada – when, jagada – here Ajamila chanted Narayana ‘aya’. He not only said Narayan but he said Narayana ‘aya’, means come, Oh! Narayan come, Narayana come come, come help me. Narayanayeti jagada catur-aksaram – four letters by this, this is a best atonement and he has done all atonement and his chanting is offense less, in helpless state he chanted so no punishment for him. Purport – In the beginning he was pure, but although he later committed many sinful acts, he was offense less because he did not chant the holy name of Narayana to counteract his sinful acts.

“na niskrtair uditair brahma-vadibhis tatha visuddhyaty aghavan vratadibhih
yatha harer nama-padair udahrtais tad uttamasloka-gunopalambhakam” (S.B. 6.2.11)</p
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So Vishnudutas are comparing, there’s no comparison but the difference is vratadibhih – that Sukhdev Goswami has made this point that vrata, tapasa, brahmachariyena, yamena, niyamena, samena, damena. They do some purification, those rituals, those regulated principles. Yatha – just like the Holy Name he chant the Holy Name and it arouses the realization, your connection with Lord is revived and uttamasloka-gunopalambhakam – reminding one. The Holy Name reminds one as Holy Name is chanted Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare, Mahatma Gandhi ki…. (Everyone laughs). Who comes to your mind when I say Mahatma Gandhi immediately, you chants somebody’s name and what happens? His form comes to your mind isn’t it? So this is ordinary person somebody or somebody so called famous person’s name you chanted the name and you are reminded so many things about him which you have heard or read or experienced, all those things come to your mind and his name is spoken out. So, that applies certainly to the Supreme Personality of Godhead and you say his name, this is the point made here “harer nama-padair udahrtais tad uttamasloka-gunopalambhakam” -immediately Lord’s name, form, qualities, activities everything soul is reminded of as the name of the Lord is chanted.

So, that’s the difference between vrata and tapa, sama dama, brahmachariya. Performance of those activities doesn’t arouse. So, they may be creating some favorable setting the scene or atmosphere, fertile ground fertile heart where the Naam beej, bhakti lata beej could be sown but the land is fertile but if the bhakti lata beej is not sown then what good is it? Land is cultivated then in the summer days as the earth is exposed to the sun after trilling after plowing then the sunrays are making that earth so potent, fertile this is what happens and then this is all Lord’s arrangement. As a farmer we know this, farmers son and then the farmers they wait for the rains land has ploughed and then they do other; they make the earth upside down the surface the soil is put down that becomes potent underneath comes above and gets exposed to the sun that also becomes potent and finally rains are there. Ok everything is fine now, fertile. Earth is there but if you did not sow the seed of bhakti or Hari Naam then what good is; you have done so much tapasya brahmachariya, sense control all this is done, fine, but if you don’t sow the bhakti lata beej, farmer doesn’t sow the seed you could just take a good photograph of empty field nice field, there’s no crop there’s no fruit, no grains, no flowers, no nothing because the seed is not sown. So all this tapa vratadibhih all these other things they have role to play and progressing Krishna consciousness but isn’t complete. So again the Hari Naam has been stressed. Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura comments that the chanting of the Holy Name of the Lord has special significance that distinguishes it from the Vedic ritualistic ceremonies of atonement. Holy Name has its own world and it distinguishes it has special significance from the ritualistic ceremonies. The rituals don’t arouse devotion unto the Lord.

“naikantikam tad dhi krte ’pi niskrte manah punar dhavati ced asat-pathe” (S.B. 6.2.12)

You become free, ya you perform some atonement you become free from some reactions of sinful act fine but “manah punar dhavati”- mind again gets up and begins running on asat-pathe – path means path, sanskrit word english word same path means path. So “asat-pathe” – false, wrong road path he is following, the mind gets up and senses become active, the body runs behind, follows the mind, senses and then business as usual. If this is atonement and rituals one undergoes but the harer gunanuvadah – the gunanuvad, the discussions about the qualities of the Lord is something that is “sattva-bhavanah” – purifying one’s existence all together khalu – certainly. So they are pointing out the difference and now they say
“athainam mapanayata” (S.B. 6.2.13) So one more time, no no you can’t take him hands off, untie your ropes, take your rope back, because ropes are still tied around the neck of Ajamila and he is being dragged antar-hrydaya, that word came up yesterday, from within the heart core of the heart, this is where the soul is stationed. So from there they were dragging, so Vishnudutas say wind up your business, get out from here, take your ropes if you wish otherwise leave it here (laughter) but you should ‘mapanayata krtasesagha-niskrtam’ he has performed unlimited, he has performed atonement to become free from unlimited sins. ‘Yad asau bhagavan-nama mriyamanah samagrahit’ – he has perfectly chanted the name of the Lord, mriyamanah – while leaving this body, at the time of death he has chanted the name of the Lord and then they give this.

“sanketyam parihasyam va stobham helanam eva va
vaikuntha-nama-grahanam asesagha-haram viduh” (S.B. 6.2.14)

Anyone who chants vaikuntha-nama-grahanam – the name of vaikuntha pati Lord Narayana, then Vishnu Krishna then asesagha-haram – then the name is again described, asesa – unlimited anant, asesagha i.e. sin, haram- takes away, unlimited sin committed by sinful person is taken away, is neutralized by vaikuntha nama grahanam and this chanting of the name may be done as sanketyam – by some kind of some indication may not be necessarily properly sitting and bead bag chanting in front of the deity in association of devotees. No person may just say the name giving some indication. ‘Parihasyam’ – jokingly one may sing chant the name, ‘stobham’ – as a musical entertainment one may chant, helanam eva – neglectfully one may chant under all circumstances the Holy Name takes sinful reactions away. Haram haram – Muslims say this when they want to condemn someone, I condemn you – haram, you haram. The Lord is kind, he only hears the Ram part not ‘ha’, you said Ram, you said my name, Lord is happy. So giving some indication, indirect. Kavi Chandra Maharaj also does the same, while distributing books in Tokyo, Japan, some Muslims also come there and devotees try to distribute books to the muslims. Devotees know that the muslims will not take the books but they keep following those muslims visitors, guest or tourist till he says haram, devotees say thank you, thank you then stop harassing him, go away find some another regular customer.

So this was kind of practice of book distributors there they found muslim they push him till he says haram haram okay thank you chanted the name of the Lord. Parihasyam – jokingly or musical entertainment; 30 years ago, around the time I joined the movement, once a movie producer, he produced a movie called Hare Krishna Hare Ram, his movie was Hare Krishna Hare Ram, it was about westerners coming to India and chanting some Hare Krishna Hare Ram but at the same time smoking and all that and there was a song, in that film there was a song ‘dum maro dum’, smoke and then in between Hare Krishna Hare Ram. So it was very famous all over India, it was famous this film song, very hit song. So we used to do preaching, our movement was very new and whenever they would see us normally, in those days’ especially western devotees or when we go out, we would go in pairs, one western devotee one Indian devotee. So when people would see Hare Krishna’s going by their home, they would run back into their home and put on this song loud so that we could hear, just to tease us Hare Krishna Hare Ram dum maro dum oh! these are the people, oh! these are the people. In those days they were misunderstood this film did create confusion because this film was making a point that these westerners come to or country and they find some swami, some guru and they start chanting spiritual but they are into intoxication mostly and drugs, so they mixed these drugs with Hare Krishna Hare Ram. So when they were seeing us, people used to, lot of people used to sing what they saw in the film these are the people, they are doing this Hare Krishna Hare Ram but there are also smoking and this and that. So to tease us they used to play this. So this was discussed with Prabhupada also, we brought this up with Prabhupada. Prabhupada was even thinking whether we should Sui this film director Devanand was his name it has done so much damage to our movement. But Prabhupada was not interested in any battle but he gave credit they are chanting Hare Krishna Hare Ram like that. They are chanting in that song there was Hare Krishna Hare Ram. So parihasyam stobham helanam and the next statement is “if one chants the holy name of Hari and then dies because of an accidental misfortune, such as falling from the top of a house, slipping and suffering broken bones while traveling on the road, being bitten by a serpent, being afflicted with pain and high fever, or being injured by a weapon, one is immediately absolved from having to enter hellish life, even though he is sinful” (S.B. 6.2.15). If one has chanted the Holy Name and then he dies by these different causes and Prabhupada is quoting that verse from Bhagvad Gita “yam yam vapi smaran bhavam tyajaty ante kalevaram tam tam evaiti kaunteya sada tad-bhava-bhavitah” (B.G. 8.6). What you remember at the time of death, if you have chanted the Holy Name that’s your good fortune.

Recently devotees went Haridwar and they found that there was a free distribution of coca-cola. All the pilgrims were running to one particular spot to get that coca-cola bottle, free coca-cola bottle. Some devotees were anxious to find out what is happening why free coca-cola? This is a place where they should be distributing Charnamrita or Ganga jal instead coca-cola is being distributed. So when they inquired from family that was distributing, they said our father died very recently and you know he was a devotee of bhola, shiva was also called bhola. Bhola means innocent and he was sick and he was on death bed and fever and all that so our father started demanding get me coca-cola and the children, the family members around were thinking now he has only few more minutes to go he is not going to survive so they were saying daddy daddy say bhola please chant bhola bhola, chant remember shiva, shiva bhakta but he said get me coca-cola, no daddy please you have one more minute to go say bhola, say bhola say once please there were 15 more seconds, the last thing he said coca-cola, collapsed. So the family thought this was the last wish of our father (Maharaj laughs) so he’ll be peaceful or satisfied if we distribute coca-cola to the pilgrims in Haridwar. So they distributed thousands of bottles of coca-cola. So unfortunate ended up saying..so maybe he went to coca-cola loka which is America. So ‘yam yam vapi smaran bhavam tyajaty ante kalevaram’ when body’s end come nearer, it is to be given up, what you think at that moment is very important factor.

<p>”tais tany aghani puyante tapo-dana-vratadibhih
nadharmajam tad-dhrdayam tad apisanghri-sevaya” (S.B. 6.2.17)

So, again one thing is the ‘isanghri-sevaya’, isha i.e. Lord, anghri – lotus feet pankajanghri pankaj – lotus, lotus feet pankajanghri. So isanghri-sevaya – by serving the lotus feet of the Lord that is one thing. The other thing is again tapo-dana-vrata, so the austerities and charities and vows these rules Vedic they purify but not thoroughly as it is accomplished by isanghri-sevaya, by worshipping the lotus feet of the Lord. Translation – Although one may neutralize the reactions of sinful life through austerity, charity, vows and other such methods, these pious activities cannot uproot the material desires in one’s heart. However, if one serves the lotus feet of the Personality of Godhead, he is immediately freed from all such contaminations. I mean it is amazing but Prabhupada accomplished, he had to work on the western American follower’s young boys and girls and by his association and he was getting them to chant, hear, take Krishna prasad. Only in few months time, in few months, they had their hands up or you meaning you would like to follow now four regulative principles Prabhupada had not asked that question, although he was preaching mentioning four regulative principles he had not he was not expecting but insisted that they follow that initially but after some time he raised this question are you ready to follow four regulative principles and so many to Prabhupada surprised they were ready to follow four regulative principles. It was only some time ago that one another swami had advised Prabhupada, “Swamiji in this country I advice you don’t ask for two things, one thing is you know you can’t look like the way you look like now, your shaved head and tilak and saffron robes, no this will not work out, you have to look like me.” So swamiji, the other swamiji, he had come in saffron robes but now he had become civilized in wearing pant and coat or he had a hat. So you have to look like me and the other thing, I strongly recommend here don’t talk about this vegetarianism, it won’t work. So Prabhupada must have thanked for free advice, this swami has given free advice.

So Prabhupada was not ready we read in Lilamrit, if people are not going to accept the principle which he stood for, which he practiced, he would rather go back to India but not compromise. So with great conviction and compassion, he presented his Krishna Consciousness in early days and within very short time these American boys and girls were ready to follow four regulative principles it’s a history. Even Narada muni was surprised to get such reports. He was visiting New York and he was just smiling happy. So Prabhupada said he was surprised to see that you have taken to this Vedic culture and following all these principles. So how was this possible that Prabhupada was able to get those westerners to follow four regulative principles? Chanting Isanghri-sevaya, because he was engaged in them, in service of Supreme Personality of Godhead, getting them to chant, take Krishna Prasad, hear, Krishna, sometimes he started taking them out at the public places tomkinson square park and public dancing, chanting. This is how it became possible, otherwise they were coming with white bottles in their hand and big boots, girlfriends and all, who knows when the last time they had taken bath or smelly, dirty but Prabhupada was tolerant and compassionate, convinced that this Holy Name would work and this worked, what else, what other magic. Of course he was stuck to the principles, he had faith in parampara and Guru Maharaj’s mercy but he, he applied the right formula. So these things are not stressed, chanting and hearing and Krishna prasad which cleanses the heart and nullifies all the reactions otherwise very difficult to get anyone to follow these principles.

“yathagadam viryatamam upayuktam yadrcchaya
ajanato ’py atma-gunam kuryan mantro ’py udahrtah” (S.B. 6.2.19)<
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Yathagadam – medicine, you take medicine but you don’t know what the contents always are of the medicine, you just take medicine and it does its job, you don’t know how it functions what is happening inside or you touch a fire, fire burns the grass, not grass burns the fire. So doesn’t matter who touches, knowingly, unknowingly you touch the fire, it will burn, you take a medicine it will act. A person unaware of the effective potency of a certain medicine takes medicine or is forced to take it, like children have to be forced right? Children have to be forced to take medicine, so whether you take knowingly or unknowingly, medicine will act. It will act even without his knowledge because its potency doesn’t depend on patient’s understanding. Similarly, even though one does not know the value of chanting the holy name of the Lord, if one chants knowingly or unknowingly, the chanting will be very effective. In the Western countries, where the Hare Krishna movement is spreading, learned scholars and other thoughtful men are realizing its effectiveness. For example, Dr. J. Stillson Judah, a learned scholar, has been very much attracted to this movement because he has actually seen that it is turning hippies addicted to drugs into pure Vaisnavas who voluntarily become servants of Krishna and humanity. Such scholars and others are everywhere appreciating the effectiveness of chanting.
“sri-suka uvaca” and so the Vishnudutas speech ends there and Sukhdev Goswami is now making comments.

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tam yamya-pasan nirmucya vipram mrtyor amumucan” (S.B. 6.2.20) <
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So, suvinirniya – they give nirnay or judgment perfectly ascertained and supported by Bhagavatam dharmam, Bhagvat dharma, all the Vishnudutas were talking was all supported by the Bhagvat dharma and the result was tam i.e. Ajamila yamya-pasan – Yamaraja’s servants ropes nirmucya – their feet they untied the knots, pulled the ropes back. Vipram – now here Ajamila is being described not as dasi-patir Ajamilah, but tam vipram, oh! that brahmin, he regained his honorable post, position the name. So in the beginning Sukhdev Goswami, same Sukhdev Goswami started the narration he was the one who said dasi-patir ajamilah namna kanyikubje, he stayed in kanyikubja, he was dasi-patir Ajamilah and now at this point he is tam vipram, oh! that brahmin, learned brahmin, he was relieved from death, he was saved, rescued, amumucan.

“iti pratyudita yamya duta yatva yamantikam
yama-rajne yatha sarvam acacaksur arindama” (S.B. 6.2.21)<
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Oh! King Parikshit, Sukhdev Goswami is addressing, oh! subduer of the enemies, King Parikshit, iti pratyudita yamya – having received this befitting reply from Vishnudutas, the Yamadutas yatva yamantikam – they went closer to Yama, Yamaraja, they went to Yamaraja, yama-rajne yatha sarvam acacaksur – and there they gave the full report of what transpired that day. They narrated the whole thing. In this verse, word ‘pratyudita’ is very significant. The servants of yamaraj are so powerful that they can never be hindered anywhere but this time they were baffled and disappointed in their attempt to take away a man they considered sinful. Therefore, they immediately returned to Yamaraja and described to him everything that had happened.

“dvijah pasad vinirmukto gata-bhih prakrtim gatah
vavande sirasa visnoh kinkaran darsanotsavah” (S.B. 6.2.22)

So, dvijah, earlier verse said vipram. Now he is addressed as dvijah, pasad dvijah – second birth right? So he is like a second birth, born again, it’s like a new birth for him, so he is addressed as dvijah. He has become free from the bonds of the Yamadutas ropes, gata-bhih – he is free from, he has no fear any more of any kind, prakrtim gatah – his senses have become normal, vavande sirasa visnoh kinkaran – and he is offering bowing down vavande sirasa – bowing down with his head, sirasa means by head. Sri Ram Chandra charano sirasa namami -I offer my obeisance’s bowing down before the Lord with my head. Sri Ram Chandra charano manasa smarami, manasa smarami, sirasa namami, vachsa granami, by head I bow down, with tongue mouth I glorify, and with mind I remember. Ram Chandra charano sharanam prapadye – I surrender unto Sri Ram Chandra or Chaitanya Chandra you could say, Krishna Chandra. So, here it is sirasa – by head vanvande vishnoh kinkaran, kinkar vishnoh kinkar – servant of Vishnu, not Vishnu kinkar, we have to say vishnoh kinkar, servant of Vishnu and at the same time darsanotsavah – seeing them in front of, seeing those four Vishnudutas was like a utsav, was like a festival darsanotsavah and we are getting there end of our today’s second session. Few more verses.

“tam vivaksum abhipretya mahapurusa-kinkarah
sahasa pasyatas tasya tatrantardadhire ’nagha” (S.B. 6.2.23)

So as he was watching, Ajamila was seeing them, he was pleased to see them, their beautiful effulgent forms and personality. Then he had some desire to speak, address, say something may be thank you or something, he was about to say something but even before he could begin talking, speaking, sahasa – suddenly, antardadhire – they disappeared. Mahapurusa-kinkarah is servants of Vishnu, they disappeared from his presence and now,

ajamilo ’py athakarnya dutanam yama-krsnayoh
dharmam bhagavatam suddham trai-vedyam ca gunasrayam” (S.B. 6.2.24)

“bhaktiman bhagavaty asu mahatmya-sravanad dhareh
anutapo mahan asit smarato ’subham atmanah” (S.B. 6.2.25)

Translation – After hearing the discourses between the Yamadutas and the Visnudutas, Ajamila could understand the religious principles that act under the three modes of material nature. These principles are mentioned in the three Vedas. He could also understand the transcendental religious principles, which are above the modes of material nature and which concern the relationship between the living entity and the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Furthermore, Ajamila heard glorification of the name, fame, qualities and pastimes of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He thus became a perfectly pure devotee. He could then remember his past sinful activities, which he greatly regretted having performed. So the next session is afternoon. We will hear those regretting words and statements of Ajamila throughout the shastras and it is recommended that if one commits sin, he should feel bad about it, regret. So this is what we get to see, the process being applied, followed here. So, and then he also takes some new resolutions, there’s a lamentation regret and now takes vows. Ok, it’s done, its past now, I can’t change the past but into the future I will no more commit any more sin, I am going to be strict and hell with his hellish family and this prostitute, he was disgusted and he takes off, he goes to Haridwar and he follows the process of devotional service very very strictly on the bank of Ganga and what the outcome is you will find out this afternoon. So, you could make a movie out of this whole, it’s quite exciting and informative, enlightening, is it boring?

In the intense care units of the hospitals, the doctors and nurses they make observations how scary the patients become before intense care unit, you know that’s the one that you go in and rarely come out, from there you go, move on. So there Yamadutas must be coming, that’s why so much screaming and very scary sounds patients make because they pass urine and stool. So that’s another proof to support atidarunan. After hearing this we can’t live normal. Ok.




Krishna is cause of all causes and source of all knowledge

yena sva-rocisa visvam rocitam rocayamy aham
yatharko agnir yatha somo yatharksa-graha-tarakah” (S.B 2.5.11)
Translation:

I create after the Lord’s creation by His personal effulgence [known as the brahmajyoti], just as when the sun manifests its fire, the moon, the firmament, the influential planets and the twinkling stars also manifest their brightness.
Purport:
Lord Brahmaji said to Narada that his impression that Brahma was not the supreme authority in the creation was correct. Sometimes less intelligent men have the foolish impression that Brahma is the cause of all causes. But Narada wanted to clear the matter by the statements of Brahmaji, the supreme authority in the universe. As the decision of the supreme court of a state is final, similarly the judgment of Brahmaji, the supreme authority in the universe, is final in the Vedic process of acquiring knowledge. As we have already affirmed in the previous verse, Naradaji was a liberated soul; therefore, he was not one of the less intelligent men who accept a false god or gods in their own ways. He represented himself as less intelligent and yet intelligently presented a doubt to be cleared by the supreme authority so that the uninformed might take note of it and be rightly informed about the intricacies of the creation and the creator.
In this verse Brahmaji clears up the wrong impression held by the less intelligent and affirms that he creates the universal variegatedness after the creation by the glaring effulgence of Lord Sri Krsna. Brahmaji has also separately given this statement in the samhita known as the Brahma-samhita (5.40), where he says:
yasya prabha prabhavato jagad-a??a-ko?i- ko?i?v ase?a-vasudhadi-vibhuti-bhinnam
tad brahma ni?kalam anantam ase?a-bhutam govindam adi-puru?am tam aham bhajami’

“I serve the Supreme Personality of Godhead Govinda, the primeval Lord, whose transcendental bodily effulgence, known as the brahmajyoti, which is unlimited, unfathomed and all-pervasive, is the cause of the creation of unlimited numbers of planets, etc., with varieties of climates and specific conditions of life.”
The same statement is in the Bhagavad-gita (14.27). Lord Krsna is the background of the brahmajyoti (brahmano hi pratis?haham). In the Nirukti, or Vedic dictionary, the import of pratistha is mentioned as “that which establishes.” So the brahmajyoti is not independent or self-sufficient. Lord ?r? K???a is ultimately the creator of the brahmajyoti, mentioned in this verse as sva-rocisa, or the effulgence of the transcendental body of the Lord. This brahmajyoti is all-pervading, and all creation is made possible by its power; therefore the Vedic hymns declare that everything that exists is being sustained by the brahmajyoti (sarvam khalv idam brahma). Therefore the potent seed of all creation is the brahmajyoti, and the same brahmajyoti, unlimited and unfathomed, is established by the Lord. Therefore the Lord (Sri Krsna) is ultimately the supreme cause of all creation (aham sarvasya prabhava).
One should not expect the Lord to create like a blacksmith with a hammer and other instruments. The Lord creates by His potencies. He has His multifarious potencies (parasya saktir vividhaiva sruate). Just as the small seed of a banyan fruit has the potency to create a big banyan tree, the Lord disseminates all varieties of seeds by His potent brahmajyoti (sva-roci?a), and the seeds are made to develop by the watering process of persons like Brahma. Brahma cannot create the seeds, but he can manifest the seed into a tree, just as a gardener helps plants and orchards to grow by the watering process. The example cited here of the sun is very appropriate. In the material world the sun is the cause of all illumination: fire, electricity, the rays of the moon, etc. All luminaries in the sky are creations of the sun, the sun is the creation of the brahmajyoti, and the brahmajyoti is the effulgence of the Lord. Thus the ultimate cause of creation is the Lord.
Is that clear? cause of all causes is Krishna this we are understanding from another source that si Brahma, not only Krishna said that in Bhagvat gita Prabhupada has quoted that “aham sarvasya prabhava?” – I am the source of “sarvasya” – everything and Brahma says the same thing “yasya prabha prabhavato jagad-danda koti”. Krishna only says sarvasya, ‘aham’- I am, ‘sarvasya’ – of everything, what is that everything? Braham say – ‘jagad anda koti’ all those millions of universes are created ‘yasya prabha’ yasya means of Him or of whom ‘prabha’ means the effulgence, the light. “yasya prabha prabhavato jagad-danda koti” just by the effulgence so many unlimited number of universes come unto existence, unto that Personality “govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami”.I would like to surrender unto that person. Why do I like to surrender unto Krishna? Because look at Him, what does He do? “yasya prabha prabhavato jagad-a??a-ko?i”He is not ordinary person, very big person very powerful person. How powerful? How much powerful? ‘yasya prabha’ not even Himself but just His prabha His effulgence coming from Him, He doesn’t have to do anything with His hands and leg Prabhupada is pointing out. He doesn’t have to pick up hammer another instruments like black smith does. ‘yasya prabha prabhavato’ just the effulgence He is dancing with the Gopis all His pastimes are going on and just ‘yasya prabha’ His effulgence is ‘prabhavato’ is creating ‘jaga anda koti’ – unlimited universes are created. so I offer my obeisance’s I bow down to such person ‘govindam adi-puru?am tam aham bhajami’.
So both the statements, Krishna’s statement and Lord Brahma’s statement they coincide they make the same point no conflict. Brahma, he is acharya very honest person giving all credit due credit to the original creator. He could have said no..no….actually He just did little I do most of the thing, he could have said that but he is not saying that. He says He (Lord) does it I just do little he is giving all the credit that is the fact also, he is speaking the truth. He is acharya and he is teaching that by his own example. He is authority and we are closely connected to Brahma, we are Brahma Madhva Gaudiya vaisnavas. Our first acharya is Lord Brahma and not only he is known for his creation but he has so much knowledge, why he has so much knowledge? He heard it directly from original soul “tene brahma hrda ya adi-kavaye” (S.B 1.1.1) he was the first person to hear the knowledge so he knows everything and not only in matters of creation in spiritual matters also he is authority. When once he was approached by Saint Narada Muni, Narada Muni is a disciple and son of Brahma and he is always approaching the right authority whenever he is confused he is right there. Then Srila Vyasdev is also confused and then he goes to Narada Muni, Narada Muni goes to Brahma and Brahma goes to Krishna, they are all connected closely connected there is no reason for any confusion. If you are connected to right source of knowledge then there is no reason to be confused.
We are fortunate people to have that connection through Srila Prabhupada we have connection with Krishna and Brahma and Narada and Srila Vyasa Dev through Srila Prabhuapada there is no reason for any more confusion for us. Everything that we want to know all that is to be known we could know if we remain connected with this source of knowledge not only Krishna is cause of all causes but He is also source of all knowledge and that comes down in unbroken chain of spiritual masters and disciples.
So Brahma he also expert in everything spiritual matters also, so Narada Muni ones approached in the beginning of this Age of kali and said now the new age is about to come on the scene so what is the process? The reply was that “Hare Kishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare”.
“iti sodasakam namnam kali-kalmasa-nasanam natah parataropayah sarva-vedesu drsyate” (Kali-santarana Upanisad) I don’t see anything other process other than “iti sodasakam namnam” these 16 words “kali – kalmasa nasanam” they are meant to destroy kali kalmas all the defects of this age of kali will be smashed by these 16 words “ natah parataropayah” I don’t see anything better and I know all the Vedas, I am the first one to hear about the Vedas . So don’t go to anyone else I am the first person and just listen from me in this age of kali “Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare” that’s it full stop don’t talk beyond this, this is it ready to go take it away, so that Brahma made this statement about the process for this age of kali. He also appeared 500 years ago and took part in the past time of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu not only he has again but he applied that jnana- knowledge to his own life “jnana vijnana samitam brahma karma svabhavajam” Brahma knew the process and Brahma personally applied that process to his own life, he set example. Who was that personality 500 years ago Brahma appeared as? Yes Haridas Thakur, Namachrya Haridas Thakur is none other than Brahma. And he just sat down; very tired by his activity of creation he sat down day and night he would sit and chant “Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare”.
He had no time not even for prostitute he was busy chanting, stay on little more chanting, until the sun rise he kept chanting and prostitute disappeared then she comes back. So that is our acharya Brahma he not only talks but he acts all qualified all the qualities of vaisnavas are found in him, very humble does not want to take credit , all talented so his talents he is admitting it’s all Krishna, Krishna is doing.
Lord personally said to Arjuna “nimitaa matram bhava savya-sacin” (B.G 11.33) “ – “Do not think that you will be doing everything I have fought the battle” you want to see it? Ok here we go. The universal form Krishna showed how the enemies were entering into the mouth of the universal form of the Lord they are all getting burned and fire emanating from the mouth. So similarly the Lord is the actual doer, 5 factors are required for completion of many activities and principle factor major factor is Super soul without His sanction things do not happen act is not completed . So Brahma knows that and even he wants to create the ingredients – earth, water , fire , ether, air that is not his creation they already exist he is just mixing up putting some water putting this thing that thing. So we should be also admitting like that whenever we accomplish something we should see the hand of the Lord involved, independently we could never accomplish anything. If something thinks he is doing that then he is mudha “prakrteh kriyamanani gunaih karmani sarvasah ahankara vimudhatam kartaham iti manyati” (B.G 3.27) mudha means fool and vimudha means better fool, first class fool there are so many fool people so many mudhas but vimudha special fool high ranking up there such a fool ‘ahankar’ ‘karta aham manyate’ – he only thinks he only considers what does he consider? karta – doer who? aham I am the doer who thinks like this? vimudha atma- first class fool totally bewildered person thinks that he is the doer but Brahma is not vimudhatma,he is mahatma Brahma is mahatma he is not duratma, he is not vimudhatma. So he is giving all credit and it’s a fact. So talents are there in different persons experts are there but that expertise that talent is Krishna we see so many expert devotees, talented, weather its cooking, (Maharaj says about a devotee- Kurma is expert in cooking or Jamuna is expert cooking, Yamaraj is expert in photography, Mukunda Maharaj is expert in public and media relation) we have so many experts so many talented devotees in our movement.
So Krishna says “paurusam nasu” in 10th chapter “the ability in man is me” we should see that way we should see Krishna in others. Whenever someone is doing something very expertly not just average but above average, he is expert, talented person and if he is using that talent to serve Krishna we should see Krishna there, Krishna says that is me “purusam nasu”. Different things the opulence’s, Krishna is talking about His own opulence’s. Krishna manifests as different ability in different persons. So we should see Krishna there Sri Krishna, so when we some special ability in some if we do not like that, we do not worship that, appreciate that that’ s like not likening Krishna, that’s like disliking Krishna, it’s like hatred towards Krishna. Thus we are here in this material world because of our enviousness only, so whenever we some good quality we do not see Krishna there. When we do not give credit to Krishna specially we become envious of that person because Krishna has manifested in Him but this is all lack of Krishna consciousness we have no vision to see Krishna. Krishna in the form of ability in our God brothers and God sisters .We should see Krishna has manifested that will make us Krishna conscious. Just by taking note, acknowledging good qualities, abilities in others that will make us Krishna conscious, so you need to be Krishna conscious just appreciate others talents, results, services, achievements you need to be Krishna conscious. If you do not appreciate there will false competition, there will fighting, it will infiltrate if we do not see we do not we do not have the right vision, here Brahma is admitting Lord is cause of all causes, narada muni said same thing and Brahma and admitted yes that’s a fact. May be Narada muni was trying to test Brahma let me see what does he have to say and he said that’s a fact. Cause of all causes is Krishna “sarva karana karanam” is Krishna. It’s His kindness that He is using me- Brahma is saying.




Who is “The mother of all padayatras?

Padayatra India is often affectionately referred to as “the mother of all padayatras.”This is because it has provided inspiration for devotees and leaders alike since its inception in 1976, and more especially since the phenomenal 1984 walk from Dwaraka to Mayapur. Padayatra India has nurtured and encouraged many devotees to organize walks in their own countries or to eagerly participate in them, making padayatra a worldwide phenomenon. The use of bullock carts has also served as a motivation, particularly in Western countries, where the idea was initially thought to be impractical and impossible.

Mother” implies there is a father and children. Could we call Srila Prabhupada the father of ISKCON padayatra? Without a doubt! It was Srila Prabhupada who initially planted the desire seed of bullock cart sankirtana in my heart and subsequently in the hearts and minds of several other devotees. During the decade leading up to the celebration of the Srila Prabhupada Centennial in 1996, more than a hundred padayatra sankirtana babies were born around the planet -and some have lived long lives, some for only a few days or weeks, but all of them glorious in their own special way.

Since Radhastami 2009, when Acarya Dasa took over the leadership, Padayatra India has flourished. To my great satisfaction, this modest brahmacari from Maharashtra has risen to the challenge. He has the ultimate advantage a padayatra needs – he hails from a village and is steeped in village culture. Under his watch, the number of padayatris has almost doubled. He is like a magnet attracting new devotees – predominantly village boys – to the program and empowering them to participate. An increase in numbers means an expansion of every aspect of padayatra, beginning with kirtana. Acarya has breathed new life into the harinama the padayatris take through the villages to attract people to the evening arati, thus rejuvenating the evening program. He also steadily promotes book distribution, and has encouraged Surya Vamsi Dasa to engage in a new service: visiting university campuses along the padayatra route and inviting chancellors and professors to purchase full sets of Srila Prabhupada’s books for their libraries. Acarya’s main assets are his unwavering Krsna consciousness and his expertise in keeping the group unified. He willingly praises the devotees for their efforts, and supports them wholeheartedly. No matter how busy the padayatris are, Acarya makes sure they always set aside at least one and a half hours each day to study. In this way the group is more cohesive and their preaching more powerful. Motivated by a strong desire to give the mercy of Sri Sri Nitai-Gaurasundara even to the most forgotten souls, he has recently taken some serious risks by leading the padayatris through a dangerous area in Jharkhand. But one night the devotees were attacked by a band of dacoits, which resulted in several padayatris being injured and valuables being stolen. Acarya has learned his lesson to be more careful in the future and avoid criminal districts.

Padayatra India has engendered several walks on the subcontinent, and continues to do so. Since 1992, the Bhubaneshwar temple has been holding its annual three-week bullock cart padayatra in Orissa. In 1997, Bhakti Vikas Swami inspired a devotee to organize a team of brahmacaris to do bullock cart padayatra in Gujarat. In 1999, a group of about twelve devotees began a padayatra in Maharashtra and walked for an entire year. At the beginning of May 2004, Revati Ramana Dasa and the Tirupati devotees arranged for a group of about 1500 devotees to walk for two days from Tirumala to Appliaguntha. Since December 2012, a small group of devotees led by Visnuswami Dasa have been walking from village to village with a bullock cart in their native state of Andhra Pradesh, and in May 2013, Rasa Bihari Dasa organized a three-day bullock cart padayatra in Goa. Another walk will soon take place in Kerala, and the Tirupati devotees are once again considering padayatra sankirtana. Kartika 2014 will mark ISKCON’s 28th Vraja-mandala parikrama. It will also be Parasurama Dasa’s 20th Kartika bullock-cart padayatra through the twelve forests of Vrndavana, with a focus on mass distribution of prasada and booklets specifically targeted to the Vrajavasis.

We pray that Padayatra India will continue to give birth to offspring in all the Indian states and beyond. After all, there are so many oxen eager to pull Sri Sri Gaura-Nitai’s cart and attain the perfection of their animal form of life.