Venue Pune: S.B – 1.5.31
yenaivaham bhagavato
vasudevasya vedhasah
mayanubhavam avidam
yena gacchanti tat padam
Translation: By
that confidential knowledge, I could understand clearly the influence of the
energy of Lord Sri Krishna, the creator, maintainer and annihilator of
everything. By knowing that, one can return to Him and personally meet Him.
Purport: By
devotional service or by the most confidential knowledge, one can understand
very easily how the different energies of the Lord are working. One part of
energy is manifesting in the material world; the other (superior) part of His
energy is manifesting in the spiritual world. And via medium energy is
manifesting the living entities who are serving either of the above-mentioned
energies. The living entities serving material energy are struggling hard for
existence and happiness, which is presented to them as illusion. But those in
the spiritual energy are placed under the direct service of the Lord in eternal
life, complete knowledge and perpetual bliss. The Lord desires, as He has
directly said in the Bhagavad-gita, that all conditioned souls, rotting in the
kingdom of material energy, come back to Him by giving up all engagements in
the material world. This is the most confidential part of knowledge. But this
can be understood only by the pure devotees, and only such devotees enter the
kingdom of God to see Him personally and serve Him personally. The concrete
example is Narada Himself, who attained this stage of eternal knowledge and
eternal bliss. And the ways and means are open to all, provided one agrees to
follow in the footsteps of Sri Narada
Muni. According to sruti, the Supreme Lord has unlimited energies
(without effort by Him), and these are described under three principal
headings, as above mentioned.
yenaivaham bhagavato
vasudevasya vedhasah
mayanubhavam avidam
yena gacchanti tat padam
(Translation repeat)
Wonderful proposal is here so we could meet Him Good news we
could meet Him Haribol…… Haribol…… if you are interested! “If there is will there is a way” no will no
way, there no way you will meet Him “if there is no will there is no way”
forget it but those who are interested meeting Him it’s impossible this was
experience of those Bhaktivedantas you are here right! For some days they know
what the story line is. You know who is speaking here? Narada muni is speaking and he is speaking
unto Srila Vyasadev, conversation between Srila Narada Muni and Srila Vyasadev
the two very great personalities infact they have been listed in the listed in
the list of incarnations. Krishna the source of all incarnations, chapter you
have just, these temple devotees have gone through chapter no. 3 and in there
you find the name of Srila Vyasadev, you find name of Srila Narada Muni. So now
these two great souls, these two incarnations of the Lord, empowered
incarnations of the Lord. They are meeting in Badrikashram almost on the top of
Himalayan Mountain. Badrikasram is on the top “Himalaya ki goda me” on the bank
of Saraswati they are meeting, Alaknanda the sacred branch of Ganga is also not
far from there. And one morning one beautiful morning like this one today is
this beautiful? It’s ok good one but more beautiful up there where everything
is so clear, no pollution, no car goes there (laughs) now the cars are also
going but when they had this conversation everything was clear, not only the
air was clear but the consciousness also was clear specially of Narada Muni,
Srila Vyasadev was facing some difficulty his pollution was bit, consciousness
was bit polluted and as a result he was despondent. As Narada Muni arrived from
up above from his travelling preaching mission and as he comes, he is never
quite, Narada Muni is never quite, he is always chanting “narada muni bajaye
vina radhikaraman name” Others say he is always chanting “Narayana Narayana”
but that’s not the case he chants
Narayana Narayana but he also chants names of Radhikaraman he is very
confidential devotee of the Lord, associate of the lord, he has place in
Badrikasram he is worshipper of that Badrinaryan in this Bharatvarsa. There are
so many varshas yes and one of them is Bharatvarsa and the deity is Narayana
and worshipper is Narada Muni. So he chants the names, so while chanting the
names of the Lord he was arriving descending, landing there and then he saw
Srila Vyasadev and he did not seem very happy. Aaee….. what’s wrong with you?
You are not a family man (devotes laughing) and this is early morning hours
also, you should be jolly.
“brahma bhutah prasannatma na socati na kanksati” (18.54)
for realized souls there is no lamentation, no hankering “prasannatma” he is
always blissful” but look at your face. And then Srila Vayasdev “guhyam akhyati
prcchati” (NOI: verse 4) He disclosed his mind in confidence. He was having
hard time or in the terms which are used these days, he did not have a job
satisfaction (devotee’s laughing). He had complied so many scriptures, Vedas,
Purans, Upanisads and Vedantsutra, Mahabharat but still he was not happy with
the job that he had done of the compilation of all theses text. So here Narada
Muni is the Spiritual Master of Srila Vyasadev, so Srila Vyasadev said please I
would like you to do the review of my books, book review. So Narada Muni under
took the task and immediately came with the conclusion yes! Yes! Certainly I
could now see why you are not very happy “vasudevasya mahima hy anuvarnitah”
(S.B 1.5.9)
Where is Mahima of Vasudev? You have complied all the
scriptures, well you have sprinkled few drops here and there of some mahima of
Vasudev, but “hari sarvatra giyate” hari should have been everywhere on every
page, in every line, in every word, in every single syllable. “Vasudev
sarvamiti” Vasudev is all in all but you have kept Vasudev out of your all
these books or just little touch that’s the reason, you are not happy. So as per observation and recommendations of
Narada Muni who was spiritual master of Srila
Vyasadev he under took compilation of yet another scripture and he
complied the final and the best scripture in existence and that was and that
still is? (Devotees-Srimad Bhagavatam)
Srimad Bhagavatam ki jai……… Srimad Bhagvat So while they were talking,
conversation continued after the book review statements of the “srnvanti gayanti
grnanti sadhavah”(S.B 1.5.11) you should compile a scripture that’s very dear
to the sadhu, the saintly persons, saintly devotees of the Lord, so that they
could do “srnvanti gayanti grnanti sadhavah abhignasha” all the time also by
reading that scripture they will be purified “te eva pasyanti achirena tavkam padam bhujam” and if they study such
scripture, Bhagvatam, then as person hears and chants and recites and remembers
the result “te eva pasyanti” they will be able to see “achrena” they will not
take much time, what will they see? “padam bhujam” the lotus feet of the Lord and
then beautiful form of the Lord, beautiful face of the Lord. So as they were
still talking about the subject matter Srila Narada Muni is talking about this
previous life. In his previous life he was son of a maid servant well how did he
get there? How did he end up becoming son of a maid servant? Then we have to
talk of his previous yet another life in his previous life he was a Gandharva he
was very exalted person in a higher planetary system. And so many singers and
reciters were invited and it was expected that they would chant the glories of
Sri Krishna, “vasudevasya mahima” but there were also many young, beautiful
girls in the assembly. So he lost the track he was distracted, he lost his
focus forgot his mission and he ended up chanting the glories of demigods. He
forgot the Supreme Personality of Godhead and he was chanting ‘jai durge, jai
ambe’ (laughs). And as a result of that he was cursed to became son of a maid
servant in the next life, so now ok not now so the 2nd life as he was the son
of the maidservant that he what he is talking about in the present 3rd life
that he has now achieved and talking to Srila Vyasadev about his 2nd life,
middle life. So that time he was very lucky although son of a maid servant. It
was month of caturmasya the four months starting “sravan, bhadrapad, ashwin and
kartik” these 4 months are called as caturmasya. So some Bhaktivedantas had
come some Parivrajakacharya the travelling monks had come, the exalted devotes
of the Sri Krishna had come and they had camped up just outside his village and
I wanted to make the long story short, so that we could reach the conclusion or
come to where we are now, this verse we are way behind. So he had opportunity
to associate with these saintly persons, his mother used to go so he also used
to go behind the mother, he had no father, no brother he was the only child so
he used to go with mother, mother busy in the kitchen washing pots, cleaning
etc these were her services and the child used to be around the saintly. Aee ……..boy
come here, come here bring some water, bring some tulsi, bring Ganga jala,
bring this, take this and the child was running happily doing this and that for
these saintly persons and he would also listen to the message and one important
thing he did this is Narada Muni infact talking to Srila Vyasadev how he came
to Krishna consciousness? How he became
devotee of Krishna? Like in our back to godhead magazine we publish articles,
how I came to Krishna consciousness? So that is the subject matter and Narada
Muni is talking how he came to Krishna consciousness? He says I had association
of devotees, I rendered some service to the devotees, I listen to some message
but I also ate lots of prasadam with their permission I took lots of prasadam
and while they were living you have heard, read that yesterday. As they were
living those Bhaktivedantas who very very kind to poor hearted souls, “kripaya
dina vatsalaha” they were very very kind “dinavatsalaha” the poor in
consciousness.
You have no money you are empty handed then also you are
poor but there is another kind of being poor, another way you could be poor,
poor in consciousness, of the two it s better to have no money but you are rich
in consciousness, you are rich in consciousness you have Krishna for you and
infact that’s all that you need, that’s all that soul needs. So these
Bhaktivedantas they were very you kind to me Narada Muni says “jnana guhya
tama” they gave me most confidential
knowledge one more time they may have summarized all the Bhagvatam or
something in essence one more time, one more time most confidential. So Narada
he was not Narada Muni that time he becomes Narada latter on. So one more time
he heard and “yena” in this verse 1st word is what? What is the 1st word?
“yena” by which , by which this refers to that confidential knowledge that he
had Narada Muni had received. I could understand clearly the influence of the
energy of Supreme Lord Sri Krishna, he could understand everything , he could understand
the energies of the Lord, different energies of the Lord about which Prabhupad
is talking in the purport and by knowing that one can return to him the
personality and meet him personally. So Narada Muni had received this knowledge
and he did met Lord personally he is talking about what he had heard but then
soon after this Bhagvat recitation very unfortunate thing happened to Narada Muni
he lost his mother. As she was going in the mid night to milk the cow and the
snake bite, snake bit and she was dropped died there. OH! What to do? But he
was prepared because he had all the knowledge not lost, he was equipped with
the knowledge, he was not lost, he was not bewildered, he was not confused he
exactly knew what to do under the circumstances. But certainly it was beyond
him the death of the mother, no child, no, no what to speak of child wanting
mother’s death no, he had never ever thought of such thing but he had no control
over so he took that as Lords arrangement. So he did the final rights, he
burned two things he burned the hut with that body of the mother also got
burned and now he had no one in the world, no property, no relatives but he had
that knowledge he had that confidential knowledge and what is the purpose of
that knowledge
“vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyo” (B.G 15.15) I am to be
known the knowledge that one acquires (laughs) when have to understand which
knowledge helps us to understand him the Supreme Lord “raja-vidya, raja- guhyam
pavitram idam uttamam’ (B.G 9.2) the king of knowledge “adhyatmam-vidya,
vidyanam” (B.G 10.32) “adhyatmam-vidya” knowledge about the self who am I?
“athatobrhama jigaysa” Oh! Dear human being Oh! now finally fortunately you
have became human being, become inquisitive, inquire find out who you are? And
what is this world that is all around you?
and when you are no more when you are died you would be wanting to turn
left or right or go up and down you
should have all the plan , you should know everything, you should know vidya ,
you should also know avidya this is advice of Isopanishad not only vidya,
avidya also.
So Narad Muni had he was equipped with this knowledge so
as he had no one around him so he starts
travelling, walking and walking and doing padayatra going through towns and
villages, industrial areas, the forest and the hills and he comes to a very
thick forest, forest was dark even in the middle of the day, the snakes were
crawling and owls they were making very scary sounds, fears animals were
roaming freely of course this was their home and in the midst of all that there
was little Narada he was young boy but he was not afraid of nothing he was only
thinking, he was remembering all that he had heard and read in the Bhagvatam.
He was thinking as the result of thinking of the Lord where is my Lord? Where
is my Lord? He was looking for the Lord; he was very angry and thirsty. But all
that he could see was a water body, so he quickly took bath and drank water
that’s all no food only water. He felt some relief then he sat underneath the
tree and he started meditating upon the Lord in the heart, looking, searching
and searching and he was just fixed, he was fully focused only thing he was
seeing and as per the description of the Lord and his beautiful form, he was
fixing his mind on that Lord Shyamsundar, he was thinking of Shyamsundar form, lotus feet, the pinkish lotus feet and
the Lords ankle bells, Lords thighs are short, lords thighs are short and waist
is like a lady thin waist, Lord has big hips, Lord has a navel, broad chest,
long arms reaching his knees, short neck, raised nose, reddish lips, lotus eyes
blooming lotus eyes, broad forehead, beautiful curly hair and a peacock feather
“pitam bara arvinda netra” he was
wearing pitambar so like that his palms were
also pinkish they were like a lotus, this part was like a lotus flower, that
part was pinkish, his fingers were lotus petal and the hands were very fragrant
also like a lotus not because some powder was applied there naturally the Lords
hands were fragrant. So he had been hearing the description of the Lord, the
talk of seeing the Lord in today’s verse, so now he was seeing the Lord in his
heart. And this was result of hearing about that Lord he wanted to achieve that
Lord, he wanted to see that Lord meet him personally and that is what was going
on here he was meeting the Lord in his heart. He had interview with the Lord he
was seeing the Lord face to face. That darshan that audience with the Lord did
not last very long, Lord disappeared and then he heard a voice this is ahead of
you, you will be reading this in the following verses and chapters.
When he heard the
voice yes that is it boy next time I will give you darshan in next life. So as
he was not able to see the Lord, he was not in front of him, within his heart anymore,
so that disturbed his darshan and Samadhi. Then he had to wait till next birth
and he became Brahma’s son, from the Lord, Brahma took birth and then Narada
Muni appeared and he had lots of darshans of the Lord always taking darshan of
the Lord, meeting with the Lord, dancing with the Lord and everything his life
was just God centered, Krishna centered. So by that confidential knowledge I
could understand clearly the influence of the energy of Lord Sri Krishna, the
creator, maintainer and annihilator of everything by knowing that one can
return to him and personally met him. And what about my life? I had to be
engineer, I had to be a doctor, I am already somebody, I have a job at 9.30 -10
o’clock I have to catch a bus.
So this hearing about the Lord and making up mind of finding
the Lord or realize the Lord and finally met the Lord is this only for
selective few? Or everyone should be doing this? What do you think? Or well if
you are a soul, if you are a soul then you should have a goal of meeting the
Supreme Soul otherwise the whole thing is lost, are we soul? Is everybody a
soul? Everybody has a soul, what do you think? Everyone has soul? No, some are
thinking everybody has no soul! Some are convinced, this student is convinced
everyone has a soul or at least human beings, Christians say animals have no
soul, so let u eat them, they are meant for us to be exploited to be enjoyed.
Let’s think that’s their ignorance and move on to the human race, all human beings there is a soul in their bodies. You
can’t be living beings if there is no soul or life is because of, life comes
from life not from the matter, life comes from life and the Supreme lively
Personality of Godhead and He declares in Bhagavat Gita ( ) “mamait vancho jiva
bhauta stasa
All living entities
they are my parts and parcels, we are souls we are not these bodies, I am not
this hand, it’s my hand, I am not master hand, I am not master head, this head
belongs to me, I am the proprietor in other words I am the proprietor of hands,
head, belly and legs this belongs to me right there with little logic Prabhupad
use to use also this kind of logic. We could understand that there are two
things there is a “me” and “mine” this has been described in Bhagvatam as
“aham” and “mama”, “me” ani “maza” (maharaj says in maratahi)“mai” aur
“mera” (Maharaj says is in hindi).
So this “mai”, this “aham”, this “me” that is soul and rest
is the body and rest is other kinds of energies of the Lord, external energies
of the Lord. So need of the soul is meeting with the Supreme soul, soul is looking
forward to meet the Supreme Lord, everyone is looking for the Lord, even George
Harrison said that you heard of George Harrison? He is no more but he was big,
big singer, his name was Harrison, he was follower of Srila Prabhupad he used
to chant “Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Hare
Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare”.
And he did big service, great service to Srila Prabhupad’s
mission in London by donating a big Manson which is known as Bhaktivedanta
Manor and he paid for the entire cost of the printing of the Krishna book long
time ago and in there, there is a picture of apple and the George Harrison
statement and he has signed also. So everyone is looking for the Lord knowingly
or unknowingly and he explains how, isn’t everyone looking for some rich
person? He wants to associate with rich person, he is attracted to rich people
or the riches , the wealth no one is expectation everyone is looking for
wealth, riches, where is money? Where is money? “divacarthe hyaa rajan kutum
bharne nava”
As soon as they get up Laxmi! Laxmi! Laxmi! They are
chanting the mantra, so they are looking for the wealth, Krishna has that
wealth, Krishna is always full of that wealth, He is Bhagvan, He is Dhanavan,
He is Bhagvan meaning He is Dhanavan , so if you are looking for wealth that
meant even according to George Harrison
you are looking for wealthy most wealthy person, you find someone wealthy person you are Oh! He is not wealthy
as that one and you find him, Oh! Here is another wealthy you go for him, like
that……..
Why is everyone interested in going to heavenly planets
because there are even more richer than Tatas and Birla’s, people you find
Kuber and others demigods, very very rich. But when there is someone even
richer than the Demigods and that is the Supreme Lord, so you will not be
satisfied, you will not be satisfied, by meeting a person that has wealth, you
will think oh! There is another, there is another more wealthy and the most
wealthy person is? Sri Krishna, so you are looking for that ultimate person,
most wealthy person. So this is just the wealth part, let’s go beauty and OH!
This person is more beautiful than you met him, OH! That one is more beautiful
and like that. This is how we are changing the bodies, because we are looking
for a beautiful person, OH! He is more beautiful, more beautiful he is
beautiful; he is more beautiful but the most beautiful is? Sri Krishna so that
search we are searching for a beautiful person that search will end only when we met our Lord he is most
beautiful and knowledgeable, we know so many knowledgeable people, you may
thinking my professor is very knowledgeable, OH! But then I know someone else
is a Noble Laureate, he is more knowledgeable but the most knowledgeable is
again Sri Krishna.
What he spoke only for 45 minutes in the battle field of
Kuruksetra 5000 yrs ago that still is the truth, holds as the truth other some
knowledgeable persons and scholars are coming and going and what they have to
say is studied even one becomes popular for 50 yrs, 100 yrs, few 100 yrs and
then that is dumped until someone comes and proves that this is all wrong, it’s
all bogus. But what Krishna spoke 5000 yrs ago, so many scholars are trying to
understand even today and this Krishna is most knowledgeable and Krishna is
more is most powerful, he showed that his power by lifting Govardhan hill that
is nothing, his expansion Anantsesa is holding all the planets very very
powerful, so he is most powerful. So these are different opulence’s of the Lord
so our search for the beautiful person, wealthy person, what else?
Knowledgeable person, renounced person, famous person, strong person – Bhagvan
“isvaras, samagrasya, virasya, yashasa, shriya, jnana, vairagya, yashyeva”
these opulence’s are Krishna’s, God’s opulence and the soul is looking for that
person and going from one person to another person, from one body to another,
one planet to another, one universe to another, this search will end only when
we find the Lord of our heart when the soul meets the Supreme soul then we will
be satisfied, fully satisfied and not otherwise. And one could think of
searching the Lord only in the human form of life, not in other species of
life. “jala-ja nava-laksani” (Padma Purana)
There are 9 lakh varities of species in the water, the Vedic
texts are so precise “krmaya
rudra-sankhyakah” the germs and
worms are of 11 lakhs of varieties, “paksinam dasa-lakshani” one million (10
lakhs) varieties of birds and 20 lakhs
(200 thousand) varieties of plants and
30 thousand varieties of animals,
you have been adding this is 80 lakhs and “manushyanam catur lakshani” the
human species are 4 hundred thousand varieties,
4 lakhs varieties they are not all on this planet or not necessarily in this
universe but where ever. So this break down is there and all of these species
the human species are most rare species
because this offers us the most rare opportunity of coming to temple or
coming to God or thinking of God hearing about God or this dharma business this
religion business is only for human beings. I travelled long distance came from
Pandarpur , not a cat has come not a dog has come, only human beings, only
human being have come this is a proof, that Bhagvatam, this dharma, this
Krishna this chanting of the holy name , OH! This is only for human being.
Others just can’t even think it’s beyond them, only human beings could think so
everyone Prabhupad had to say everyone is rotting in this material world,
everyone is rotting, suffering.
I had to visit hospital in Nagpur few days ago, terrible
experience as I had to visit that intensive care unit, where even I could see
it was , I don’t want to even think and then
you die , life is tough . I was in Nagpur few days ago but I was in New
York few yrs ago on the wall someone wrote, some New Yorker, he had his
realization, he wrote his realization on the wall. He said oh! Life is tough
and then you die. And that was not all he had another short line at the bottom
then you are born again for another tough life, tough life tough, then you die
and then you are born again and again and again” no one wants this, no one
wants to die any one here? I have travelled and enquired in south Africa I was
there few months ago everywhere I have so I haven’t meet one person, I want to
die, I want to die, I want to die no one wants to die but everyone must die, we
don’t want to die, we don’t want to suffer, but suffering is there we were in
Gaya just few weeks ago and this Rahul right? Siddartha, Siddartha Buddha was
Siddartha before he wanted to see the world but his father would not let him
go. He had to stay only within the palace compound, no going outside, but he
was no, no! Father daddy no, I must no ………..….ok boy go. So he was given a
chariot and chariot driver and then he was going around, doing Bharat dharshan
and what he saw was? You know someone was terribly suffering lying on the foot
path and the flies he was very sick and what not. OH! What is wrong with this person,
he is sick, that’s why he is suffering, oh! He is suffering and this Siddartha
says does everyone gets sick? Sure will I get sick also? Yes one day sure , no
problem and then ok move on move on……and someone is struggling to cross the
road, he was not only having to feet but another support , stick ahee…..please
help me to cross the road , he had trembling body and he was falling down and
getting up. Ahe what’s wrong with person chariot driver oh! He is old He is
weak invalid now that’s why he is struggling. Does everyone get old? OH! For
sure and what about me? You will also no problem; you will also get old and
then ok carry on. Oh! What is this “ram nama satya hai, ram nama satya hai, ram
nama satya hai, Hye! What is happening here? I see that one person is enjoying
nice ride, while everyone is walking in hot sun. One person I just, people are
throwing flowers on him, he must be very special person? And everyone is saying
Ram Ram but he is just…. Ho! He is died person, what do you mean? All they will
bring him to Ghat “nigamboda ghat” and burn his body. What does everyone die?
Sure and what about me? Sure no problem (laughter) you will also die one day.
So he just had this little darshan as he was going around, father did not
wanted him to see his that’s way he is as keeping him within the palace. So
Siddartha said ok chariot driver I have its enjoy, I have seen the world
enough, no more I don’t want to see the world bring my chariot back to the
palace, chariot back in the palace and that night that very night, he was a
young man, young wife, young son also Rahul yes? That’s the name; he had a son called
Rahul. So he took off in the middle of the night goes to Gaya he becomes
enlightened. He wanted to find solution oh! I know the 4 problems I have made
the list no 40, not 400 problems but my problems are 4 “janma- mrtyu- jara-
vyadhi- dukha -dosanudarsanam” (B.G 13.9).
He had made e a list I have 4 problems that I will be facing
and if I don’t solve them in this life , I have to come back again, and
again those 4 problems and If I don’t tackle them in that life then another
life and another…….., I want to put full stop to this suffering. So severe
austerities and meditation and he becomes enlightened, he becomes Buddha and
then he wanted to enlightened others. He was one incarnation he is one of the
10 incarnations of the Lord, Buddha dev don’t think he belongs to only dalit he
is also are incarnation. So this Lord Buddha he made this lists 4 us these are
4 problems. Krishna also said this in Bhagvat Gita, Prabupad is talking here we
are rotting in this material world, suffering. So is there any alternative to
this suffering? Is there way out? Is this only we scare people? So they have
hard time sleeping at night , are scriptures only talking of negative things
and pointing out suffering of the world, humanity and individuals, no that’s not
the case, there is way out and that way
is realization.
I am soul, I am atma,
I am atma I am sprit it soul, I am Krishna’s, I belong to God, I am his part
and parcel, I must met him . So there so much knowledge about these matters the
soul and Supreme soul and there is yet another kingdom of the Lord spiritual
kingdom of the Lord, no one knows about it, Krishna knows and 100s and 1000s of
pure devotees have confirmed this fact, pure devotees they have no tendency to
cheat anybody. Narada Muni, Madhavacarya, Tukaram Maharaj just to name few
there are 1000s of them100s and 1000s saying the same thing again and again and
again they are confirming this fact which have been said by Krishna in Bhagvat
Gita, described in Bhagvatam, scientist don’t know of course why should
scientist know? Just because your scientist you should know everything at least
there was one honest scientist. He was Newton or Einstein I don’t know he took
one particle of sand on the beach, he was on the beach. He said “I know only
just know only one particle I don’t know about all this particles all around
me, that much knowledge there is so much more to know, I know only little bit
just tiny bit I know. So tiny brains Prabhupad would say, we all have tiny brains,
tiny brain, with the tiny brain, how much could you know? And all that, people
are knowing is all about the matter, there is so much to know about the spirit
soul and the spiritual world. Oh! If there is matter, the Russian scientist came
to conclusion, oh! If there is matter there must be antimatter also, then its
complete combination they came to this conclusion. If there is matter there is
must be antimatter also. Well you may
know something’s from this world in order to become javan or kisan or doctor or
engineer or some kind of professional and we all do that, we know about this
trade that line, computers, constructions or cloth making or building or
whatever different things each one of us.
But there is one thing that everyone must know about and that is the
soul, about soul everyone should have knowledge. About this world and worldly
things I may know something’s and he knows another thing, he is a science
student, he is commerce, he is arts, he is biologist, he is physicist, he is
zoology, he is botany, I am finish with the list (laughs) cosmology, astronomy
ok like that there are so many departments of knowledge and he belongs to this
department, that department but there is one department which is common for all
the souls, that is one knowledge that everyone must study. Prabhupad was taken
on a tour of Boston University and he visited all the departments 20-30 and at
the end he said where is that department that talks about the soul, you don’t
have such department this is incomplete, where is that branch of knowledge,
where is that faculty that teaches about who am I? I am studying about everything
else in the world, but I don’t know who am I? And this is a cause of suffering.
There is some so called enjoyment is there on the surface level which doesn’t
last very long “ahe samsparja bogah
dukha yonaha evate” anyone who is enjoying he must suffer this is a law also of
this world. Those would wish to enjoy no, no we don’t stop you, go ahead enjoy
but be prepared to suffer, you may not want to suffer but you must suffer, you
have to suffer these 2 things go
together, this is part of the knowledge this Gita will teach, be prepared, be
aware you want to enjoy ok but you will be suffering it is not possible to enjoy to enjoy only, it is not
possible to suffer only, its complete
package is 2 types of season sukha season and then dukha season ever
body’s life has these 2 seasons but
Krishna consciousness talks about going above,
no sukha, no dukha only anand which has origin in the soul and Supreme
soul and by nature we are blissful. We talk about God and soul and Bhagvat
Gita, Bhagvatam OH! But is it accepted or proven by the scientist is it
scientific,of course it is scientific, Krishna is Supreme scientist and more
could be said. So why science has to put stamp of approval on what Krishna has to say, what God has to say, what Bhagvat Gita,
Bhagavatam has to say why? Oh! It’s just scientific everyone wants to, is this
scientific? Could you prove it scientifically, could be proven, it is a science,
to begin with this is a science, original science the best science, science of
the soul, science of God, sastra and “ya sastra
vidhim utrajyavartate kamakarakaha, na sa siddhim avappnoti, na sukham,
na paramgatim”
So study, continue your studies, study physics, study
chemistry, study this study that, study germs, study worms (devotees laughing).
So many persons they take one germ and the whole life they are focused on one
tiny germ, the movements and then the lifespan and the tendencies, liking and
disliking of that germ. Whether it’s a germ or something’s of that sort you are
studying whole life. So study little bit of that but lot of time should be
invested in studying who we are? Who is God? Where and how we exist and what is
my relationship with him? And once we have him, we have everything. Srila
Prabhupad used to say so one department, another knowledge, another property
this, that, there are different zeros there is no one then all zeros put together
one big zero. I will stop now, we are happy to see so many students from all
over the planet, all over the country have assembled here, this is a rare
opportunity for us, it’s beautiful to see such a scene. Young people of course
why should we wait till our bodies are rotten and then make an offering of the rotten.
The fresh flowers, the fresh fruits of this season and you’re the fresh fruit
of this season, of this season and you are the fresh fruit of this season, of
this world and all of you should be offered to the lotus feet of Sri Krishna.
Tamal Krishna Maharaj used to talk like this, garland of jivas Prabhupad you
have come to the west and here are 108 new Bhaktas as if they are like
garlands’ and they are offered to Prabhupad , you please offer them to Sri
Krishna, bring them to Sri Krishna offer the garlands of flowers or garland of
Fruits. So here we see nice offering why you should be serving Maya? You should
be serving Krishna, this is the proposal of Krishna, this is the proposal of
all the great sages and saintly person, ancestors have talked like this, only
when we start imitation of the west and as they made us the slaves for almost
1000 yrs the Muslim, the Dutch, the France, the Britishers then we lost the
tract, we got distracted and even after independence, ok we will have
independence so that we could have Ramraja we will established principles of
Ram, Krishna.
This was the vision
but again forgotten as soon as we had the 1st Prime Minister of India. OH!
These dams, bridges and factories these are for temples these are places of
worship for us. Although born in a Brahmin family as he was born in Brahmin
family but he was brought up and his education in the West, he was very much
influenced by the West. He used to get his clothes ironed in Paris and they
used to bring his clothes to Delhi from Paris ironed clothes then he would put
on his clothes. So he was influenced like that and he wanted his whole country
like that. Again the modern science we are modern and scientific and industry
and technologies the way to go. There were so many promises made up
technologies and industrial civilization, have not been fulfilled and the ill
effects of that modern technology and industrial life styles are about to are
in front of us. 10% of all Indian are having kidney trouble well because I
happen to read this 2 days ago, one out of every 10 every Indian are having
kidney trouble and heart trouble and there are so many other kind of troubles.
Someone has kidney trouble; someone has some other kind of trouble. Soon India
will be on the top list of the HIV, the AIDS we are leading there we getting
there, we will be number 1.
I was in Africa the
life span of South Africa has been reduced to 33yrs. Because more than half of
the population is suffering with the AIDS, shame! Matter of shame! The most
sick country in the world is America and the terrorism and we can’t even have a
sleep at night. You have nice bed, you could buy bed but not sleep, you could buy food but
not hunger, there is no hunger, no sleep because of anxiety, there are so many
things. This is the spirit of enjoyment this is the result of enjoyment,
sufferings is here catching up with us. We should wake up so we can’t wake up
everybody at least we could star waking up few people, nice I could see here
good gathering here, woken up or waking up “tama soma jyotir gamaya” “get out
of the darkness go to the light” light of what?
Light of Supreme Personality of Godhead is light “Krishna surya sam maya
hai andhakar” or light of Bhagvat light of Bhagvat Gita. Be knowledgeable know you,who
you are? Then proceed, stop –think and proceed” so this is the proposal of
International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON). This was what
Prabhupad all lifelong he was talking this language on behalf of Krishna and in
only 40 yrs ago there was just him, by himself and you would be happy to know,
I am sure you know already so many 100s and 1000s, millions of followers the
Krishna consciousness has reached 160 countries in 40 yrs, it’s good news or
no? Devotees- Haribol…………….this is just the begins that means people around the
world. This is just the beginning that means people around the world Krishna
consciousness is in big demand and this is the only alternative there is no
other way , there is no other way , there is no other way, Krishna is only way,
Krishna consciousness is the only way. The Holy name is the only way to get
Krishna. So continue with your studies and whatever else you had been doing in
your life but add Krishna know Krishna and spread this knowledge of Krishna
around which is called Krishna consciousness this sill do good to you, to your
family this is good for your family because your family is also souls family of
souls this will do good to our country to the humanity and all the living
entities will be benefited by this message of Bhagvatam. And then by knowing
that, that refers to knowing Bhagvatam, knowing Bhagvat Gita, one can return to
him, return to Krishna and personally meet him that’s why we said in the
beginning nice proposal wonderful proposal of meeting with the Lord and Narada
Muni is speaking from his personal 1st hand experience such meeting is possible
and we have birth right, it’s are birth to met Krishna, janma siddha hakka hai,
swatantraya maza janma siddha haka ahe ani to me midavnarach. Yesi sahar me, in
this city Lokmanya Tilak was making this declaration during the war with
Bristishers its are birth a right to live in a free country. And we will have
it we will fight with all might so that one day we are free nation, this is our
birth right. Just to make the country you could have such a determination, how
much more determined you should be to make our soul free, we are shackled, we
can’t even move, the goodness, passion, ignorance is not making us more , we
can’t even move, we are bound. Prabhupad’s Spiritual Master said this political freedom
is not that important more important is to make the soul free from the shakcle
of these bonds of material existence.
That’s why 1922 Prabhupad was about to join Mahatma Gandhi’s
freedom movement, he had already started
wearing khadi clothes, attending meetings, also going to Netaji Subhas
Chandra Bose, his underground meetings.
But then as he met with Srila Bhakti Siddhanta Saraswati he said no, no more
important is to take up the mission of Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu
seriously and make people free from illusion, free from ignorance, ignorance is
cause of suffering make them knowledgeable and Prabhupad took that instruction
very very seriously. Thank god! That instruction was given by Srila Bhakti
Siddhanta Saraswati Thakur and Prabhupad took it seriously as a result what is
happening? As a result we are sitting here today and some one is talking and
others are hearing and others will also talk further about this. So this started
in 1922 with Prabhupad taking this mission very very seriously, spreading the
knowledge, making people knowledgeable.
So you would like not to forget Krishna, we can’t forget he
is so wonderful, how could you forget him? Forget everything else, it’s all
rubbish all temporary, cause of suffering also embrace Krishna, go for Krishna,
met Krishna personally, met Krishna, start meting Radha Kunja Bihari, he is Krishna see him,
see with the knowledge what you have heard and then stand before him and chant
his glories, chant the holy name in
front of Radha Kunja Bihari, take Krishna Prasad and every person that you
care, I care for my parents, I care for my friends, I really want to look after
, I want to do something useful, if your thinking like this please share this
Krishna consciousness with them and then only you have done something tangible,
substantial for them otherwise this “ahar nidra bhaya maithun” business goes on
don’t think this eating ,sleeping ……roti, kapda, makan everyone is providing, the
bird society, animal society, just because they don’t have university and they
don’t have parliament and they don’t have super bazar or big bazaars like in
Pune, we have big bazaar now. Is this
big bazaar going to make Pune happier? Don’t be in illusion, we guaranty Pune
will be more suffering in years to come. If Pune wants to show us hand and ask
us please! Give us your predictions, so we would say you are enjoying? Yes yes
you want to enjoy? Yes yes material way yes yes, you will suffer (devotees laughing).
And we don’t have to curse anybody why should we curse anyone, but we could
speak the truth, we guaranty suffering,
I don’t have to do anything it’s all programmed, it’s all planned, so curb down
this enjoying spirit , independent of Krishna. Of course there is so much
enjoyment in relationship with Krishna, so much enjoyment so much to enjoy, We
are not inviting you to come and suffer with us, Radheshyam is not inviting, he
is going all over the country and brining young people or preaching to them, so
that they would suffer, nicely suffer. He is envious don’t think he is
suffering and he wants us also to suffer, infact he is enjoying and he wants to
see that everyone else also would enjoy. Enjoyment all the way, only enjoyment
“pratipadam purnamrita rasa
svadanamsvadu svadu pade pade”. We guaranty that kind of happiness for
everybody, whole country, whole humanity could be enjoying, by following this
path shown by Krishna described in Bhagvat gita and Bhagvatam and could be
realized by chanting “HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE HARE
RAM HARE RAM RAM RAM HARE HARE”.
Any questions (students asking questions to maharaj ji)
Question 1: So many times we hear about philosophy, we
should love God, we should serve God, but at time of chanting we are not able
to concentrate and we are not able to relish it is somewhat like burden for us
there may be some falsie in hearing because Narada Muni heard form Bhaktivedantas
he heard it very intensely but how could we improve our hearing to have
substantial effect?
Answer: There is nothing wrong in the Holy name the same
holy name that Narada Muni chanted has been handed down to us to this day. So
it has same potency “Krishna caitnaya rasa vigraha nama cintamani rasa vigraha”
it’s full of juice and it’s full of ananda, so how you apply is important and
what is the other way? Ok you are in a boat the boat is in ocean and some
difficulty with the boat, should you be jumping in the ocean again? Is that how
you would be saving yourself? Fix the boat, repair the boat, something is wrong
with the boat, just fix it then you will survive, you will cross over. Not that
there is something wrong with the boat so I will just jump of the boat but then
you will be in deep trouble of the deep ocean. So having faith in chanting holy
name that is also required, so anyone who could give us, that faith association
of those faithful devotees. Prabhupad
gives example of jaundice, sugar candy is the way the person eats sugar candy
but says OH! Because of the sickness of jaundice, sugar candy also tastes very
bitter, says no get me another type of medicine, no there is no other type of
medicine you want to be cured this is the only medicine, it’s the only medicine
and if the person goes on eating that sugar candy then he will be cured and as
he is cured he will experience the sweetness of the sugar candy and the time
will come. Hye! Get me more, Get me more sugar candy it’s finished go and buy
it. So Holy name is very very sweet, there are list of 10 offences in “Nectar
of Devotion” one should be avoiding “apradha sunya hoiya laho Krishna nama”.
So become free from aparadha endeavour to become free from
aparadha and faithfully keep chanting the Holy names of the Lord. Caitanya
Mahaprabhu took to the chanting and he went mad, Narada Muni was enjoying, Caitanya Mahaprabhu
was also enjoying and he goes to his Guru Maharaj, OH! This holy name is so
sweet, OH! What kind of mantra you have given to me? “japite japite mantra
karela pagal” I have become pagal, pagala baba, I have become pagal, madman
chanting this holy names “kiba mantra dila gosai, kiba tara bala”. So much bala,
so much strength, so much sweetness in this chanting I have just gone mad, I
can’t help, I can’t just sit, I have to get up and what is this? So the same
mantra this chanting of the holy name is the same mantra very kindly delivered
to us by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and the properties, you could talk in that
terms the properties of the holy name and the soul are very similar, they have
similar characteristics, they belong to same world, same family they have
eternal connection, relationship, so just push yourself , don’t stop, keep
going, keep chanting, you could discuss further , take advice, what changes
could be made in your some habits or some life style, your dealings with others
or matter of the world. The holy name is potent and sweet, so encourage
everyone to chant don’t stop, success is in not stopping, don’t stop, beg holy
name my dear holy name, I beg you please reveal unto me, just forgive my
offences, give me intelligence OH! Holy name that I could avoid offences. You
could be personal with the holy name because holy name is Lord himself, you
could reveal your heart to be holy name and holy name is very very kind, could
listen to your sincere prayers.
Question 2: Maharaj you talked about Lord Buddha, god is god
since eternity nobody becomes God, but in case of Lord Buddha we see that at
certain point of time he gets enlightenment, he performed austerities like what
is the purpose of his behavior he performed austerities, he neither went to
gurukul, neither anywhere?
Answer: (maharaj laughs) well he is God he doesn’t need to
go to gurukul but on the other hand to become God realized he is performing
austerities and penances and meditation. If you would not do so, he is teaching
by his example. “yad yad acarati sresthas” (B.G 3.21) he doesn’t have to ,
Krishna went to ok Buddha did not go to gurukul and became disciple of spiritual
master but Krishna went to Ujjain and he became disciple of Sandipani Muni, it
wasn’t necessary he is God, it’s not
necessary for him to become disciple, he
is source of all knowledge .
Ram he also becomes disciple, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu he had
his Guru again he found his Guru in gaya the same town, Caitanya Mahaprabhu had
gone to Gaya, Buddha had attained his enlightenment, he was enlightened in Gaya,
same Gaya Caitanya Mahaprabhu found his spiritual master. So they don’t need to
accept spiritual masters but they are playing these roles, setting examples so
that we would learn from that. But as a God they may not sometimes follow whole
thing, all the steps there is some formal acceptance of spiritual masters,
rather Guru’s also, who has 24 gurus? Dattaraya, Dattaraya he had 24 gurus,
even prostitute, a child and there is a whole list, a pigeon, earth, water,
fire and like that there is 24 so he is learning from them. “cetya guru” Lord
in the heart, Parmatma in the heart he is the 1st guru, infact because we don’t
listen to him, Lord in the heart then he comes out or comes in front of us in the
form of spiritual master or Lord speaks his message through somebody through
his pure devotee who plays a role of Spiritual Master, so Lord would like to
talk to the soul. The soul and the Supreme soul they are sitting next to each
other, Kathoupanisad describes how this body is like a tree and on this tree
there are to birds, one is Atma and other is Parmatma, they are just next to each
other they are neighbors’, forever everybody that has soul the Lord is there. So
he is speaking but we are go dull headed and what not, so we don’t listen to
what he has to say so same Lord is then trying to teach us through the agency
of spiritual master and there are so many other agencies around that we could
learn from if Buddha didn’t accept formal initiation he is a Lord he doesn’t
have to or he heard the Lord in the heart what he saw he came to conclusion.
Those things the dead bodies was his gurus (laughs) made him think seriously it
that ok (maharaja asking student).
(Student asking questions to maharaja) what about austerity?
Like it seems that if we follow him no needs to do austerities?
Answer: Without austerity you cannot achieve anything one of
the big, big austerity in this world these days is to stay together, to stay
together is a big austerity. So wife and husband they don’t want to perform
that austerity, so many others , so many nations are getting broken into
pieces, there is a big crowd in brahmachari ashram. Anyways that is one
austerity, there are varieties of austerities to be performed by body, some by
tongue “vacha”, some by mind, austerities one must perform in every staya,
treta, dwapar, kali there are different means to achieve that goal or
purification, the austerities are there, with austerity comes the purification
“tapo divyam putrakayena satvam esmad suddhe bhrama saukhayam tvam anantam”
So as one performs austerities “tapa” “tapa” “tapa”, Brahma
heard these two words in the very beginning he did not know what should I be
doing? What is my goal? What is expected of me? And he was curious to know
“athato brahma jigyasa” he heard two
words, two letters “ta” and “pa” and as he puts those together “tapa” “tapa”
“tapa” “tapa”.
He goes back to the lotus he sits there and he performs
austerities. So very 1st and
the only being that time in the whole universe he starts his spiritual life
with austerities and that tapasya, purifies one and with that comes the real
ananda, real bliss, real life, so tapasya is for cleansing, cleansing body, to
make our talk refine in our speech, no vulgar language, no nasty, dirty things
and speak the truth this is austerity, be kind and with mind of course whole
things start with the mind if mind is not purified then the words, through the
words and through the body we will be committing sins and offences. So the
austerity of mind is there, of the speech, of the actions, Krishna describes
this in Bhagvat Gita. So austerities ya! He peformed Budhha performed and so we
also perform. Chanting of Hare Krishna is tapa, this japa is tapa, this japa is
yagya, this japa is archana this japa is dhyana, so tapa is there. “samo damas
tapah saucam” (18.42) Krishna is talking “brahama- karma svabhavajam” so
tapasya is there. Ok so thank you very much.