“yenaivaham bhagavato vasudevasya vedhasah
mayanubhavam avidam yena gacchanti tat-padam” (SB 1.5.31)

Translation: By that confidential knowledge, I could understand clearly the influence of the energy of Lord Sri Krsna, the creator, maintainer and annihilator of everything. By knowing that, one can return to Him and personally meet Him.

Purport: By devotional service or by the most confidential knowledge, one can understand very easily how the different energies of the Lord are working. One part of energy is manifesting the material world; the other (superior) part of His energy is manifesting the spiritual world. And the via medium energy is manifesting the living entities who are serving either of the above-mentioned energies. The living entities serving material energy are struggling hard for existence and happiness, which is presented to them as illusion. But those in the spiritual energy are placed under the direct service of the Lord in eternal life, complete knowledge and perpetual bliss. The Lord desires, as He has directly said in the Bhagavad-Gita, that all conditioned souls, rotting in the kingdom of material energy, come back to Him by giving up all engagements in the material world. This is the most confidential part of knowledge. But this can be understood only by the pure devotees, and only such devotees enter the kingdom of God to see Him personally and serve Him personally. The concrete example is Narada himself, who attained this stage of eternal knowledge and eternal bliss. And the ways and means are open to all, provided one agrees to follow in the footsteps of Sri Narada Muni. According to sruti, the Supreme Lord has unlimited energies (without effort by Him), and these are described under three principal headings, as above mentioned.

Wonderful proposal is here, that we could meet Him. Good news! We could meet Him!! Haribol!! If you are interested, if there is will then there is a way. No will no way, there is no way you will meet Him. If there is no will then there is no way, forget it.

But those who are interested meeting Him, it seems possible. This was the experience of those Bhaktivedantas. You were here, right for some days? They know what the story line is. You know who is speaking here? Narada Muni is speaking and he is speaking unto Srila Vyasdeva. Conversation between Srila Narada Muni and Srila Vyasdeva, the two very great great personalities. In fact, they have been listed in the list of incarnations. Krsna, the source of all incarnation’s chapter. These temple devotees have gone through chapter number three. And in there, you find the name of Srila Vyasdeva, You find the name of Srila Narada Munii. So know these two great souls, these two incarnations of the Lord, empowered incarnations of the Lord. They are meeting in Badarikashram, almost on the top of the Himalayan Mountain. Badarikashram is on the top, Himalaya ke godha mein. On the bank of Sarasvati they are meeting. Alakananda, the sacred branch of Ganga is also not far from there. One morning, one beautiful morning like this one today. Is this beautiful? This is okay, good one but more beautiful up there, where everything is so clear, no pollution, no car goes there. No, the cars are also allowed going but when they had this conversation, everything was clear. Not only the air was clear but the consciousness also, especially of Narada Muni. Srila Vyasdeva was facing some difficulty. His consciousness was bit polluted. And as a result, he was despondent. As Narada Muni arrived from above, from his travelling preaching mission and as he comes, Narada Muni is never quiet, never quiet. He is always chanting ‘narada muni bajaye vina radhikaramana namne’. Others say he is always chanting ‘narayana narayana’. But that is not the case, he does chant ‘narayana narayana’ but he also chants names of Radhika and Raman. He is very confidential devotee of the Lord, associate of the Lord. He has place in Badarikashram. He is worshipper of that Badri Narayana in this Bharata varsha. There is so many varshas, nine varshas? Yes? And one of them is Bharata varsha and the deity is Narayana and the worshipper is Narada Muni. So while chanting the names of the Lord, he was arriving, descending, landing there. And then he saw Srila Vyasdeva and he didn’t seem very happy. “Hey! What’s wrong with you? You are not a family man (Laughter) And these early morning hours also? You should be jolly.

“brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati na kanksati’ (BG 18.54)

For realised soul there is no lamentation, there is no hankering, ‘prasannatma’ he is always blissful, “But look at you face.” And then Srila Vyasdeva, ‘guhyam akyati prachati’, he disclosed his mind in confidence what he was facing. He was having little hard time or in the terms that which are used these days. He didn’t have a job satisfaction (Laughter). He had compiled so many scriptures, Vedas, Puranas, Upanishads and Vedanta Sutra, Mahabharata. But still he was not happy with the job he has done for the compilation of all these texts. Here Narada Muni is the spiritual master of Srila Vyasdeva. So Srila Vyasdeva said, ‘Please I would like you to do the review of my books, book review. “So Narada Muni undertook the task and immediately came with the conclusion. ‘Yes yes certainly I could now see why you are not very happy.” ‘vasudevasya mahima hy anuvarnitah’ (SB 1.5.9). “Where is mahima of Vasudeva? You have compiled all these scriptures. Well, you have sprinkled few drops of here and there of some mahima of Vasudeva. But ‘hari sarvatra giyate’ Hari should have been everywhere on every page. In every line, every word, every single syllable. ‘vasudevam sarvam iti’ Vasudeva is all in all. But you have kept Vasudeva out of your all these books or just little touch. And that’s the reason you are not happy.” So as for observations and recommendations of Narada Muni, who was the spiritual master of Srila Vyasdeva, he undertook compilation of yet another scripture. And he compiled the final and the best scripture in existence. That was and that still is Srimad Bhagavatam ki jai!!!

So while they were talking, conversations continued after the book review, statements… ‘srnvanti gayanti grnanti sadhavah’ (SB 1.5.11). “You should compile a scripture that is very dear to the sadhus, the saintly person, saintly devotees of the Lord. So that they could do ‘srnvanti gayanti grnanti sadhavah abhiksanah’ all the time also. By reading that scripture, they will be purified. ‘te eva pasyanti achirena tavakam padambujam’. And if they study such scripture, Bhagavatam, then as person hears and chants and recites and remembers, the result is ‘te eva pasyanti’. They will be able to see. ‘achirena’ they will not take much time. What will they see, ‘padambujam’ the lotus feet of the Lord and then beautiful form of the Lord, beautiful face of the Lord.” So as they were still talking about e subject matter , Srila Narada Muni is talking about his previous life. In his previous life, he was son of a maid servant. Well, how did he get there or how did he end in becoming son of a maid servant. Then we have talk of his previous yet another life. In his previous life, he was a Gandharva. He was a very exalted person in a higher planetary system. And so many singers and reciters were invited and it was expected that they would chant the glories of Sri Krsna, ‘vasudevasya mahima’. But there were also many young beautiful girls in the assembly. So he lost the track. He was distracted, he lost his focus, forgot his mission. And he ended up chanting the glory of demigods. He forgot the Supreme Personality of Godhead and he was chanting ‘jaya durge, jaya ambe….’ (Laughter). As a result of that, he was cursed to become son of a maid servant in the next life. So in the second life as he was son of a maid servant, that is what he is talking about in the present third life that he has now achieved when he is talking to Srila Vyasdeva about his second life, middle life.

So that time he was very lucky although son of a maid servant. It was month of Caturmasya, the four months starting with shravan, bhadrapad, ashvin and kartika. These four months are called Caturmasyas. So some bhaktivedantas had come, some parivrajakacharya, the travelling monks had come. The exalted devotees of Sri Krsna had come. They had come just outside his village. I am going to make this long story short so that we could reach the conclusion or come to where we are now. This verse, we are way behind (Maharaj talking). So he had opportunity to associate with the saintly persons. His mother used to go so he also used to go behind the mother. He had no father, no brother. He was the only child, so he used to go with the mother. Mother busy in the kitchen washing pots, cleaning. She had several services. And the child is to be around the saintly person. “Hey boy, come here, come here. Bring some water. Bring some tulasi, bring some Ganga jal. Bring this, take this.” And the child was running happily doing this and that for the saintly persons and he would also listen to the message. And one important thing he did, he says ( This is Narada Muni infact, talking to Srila Vyasdeva how he came to Krsna consciousness. How he became devotee of Krsna). Like in our Back to Godhead magazines, we publish articles, ‘How I came to Krsna consciousness.’ That is the subject matter and Narada Muni is talking, how he came to Krsna consciousness. ” I had association of devotees. I rendered some service to those devotees. I listened to some messages but I also ate lots of prasadam. With their permission, I took lots of prasadam”.

As they were living, those bhaktivedantas were very kind to poor hearted souls. ‘krpaya deena vatsalah’, they were very very kind, ‘deena vatsalah’, the poor in consciousness. You have no money or empty pocket, then also you are poor. But there is another kind of being poor. Other way you could be poor in consciousness. Of the two, it is better to have no money but you are rich in consciousness. Every and each consciousness you have Krsna for you. In fact, that’s all you need. That’s all soul needs. “So these bhaktivedantas, they were very very kind to me.” Narada Muni says. “‘jnana guhyatamam’, they gave me most confidential knowledge.” One more time, they may have summarized all the Bhagavatam or something in essence, one more time, one more time most confidential. So Narada, he was not Narada Muni that time, he became Narada later on. One more time he heard. ‘yena’ in this verse, first word is what? What is the first word? ‘yena’ by which. ‘By which’, this refers to, by the confidential knowledge that he had, Narada Muni had received. I could understand clearly the influence of the energy of the Supreme Lord Sri Krsna. He could understand everything. He could understand the energies of the Lord, different energy of the Lord about which Prabhupada is talking in the purport. And by knowing that, one can return to Him, the Personality and meet Him personally.

So Narada Muni had received this knowledge and he did meet Lord personally. He is talking about what he has heard. But then, soon after this bhagavat recitation, most unfortunate thing happened to Narada Muni. He lost his mother. While she was going in the middle of the night to milk the cow and the snakebite and she was dropped dead there. Oh what to do? But he was prepared. Because he had all the knowledge. He was equipped with the knowledge. He was not lost, he was not bewildered. He was not confused, he exactly knew what to do under the circumstances. Well, certainly it was beyond him, the death of the mother. No child, no no, what to speak of a child wanting mother’s death. No, he had never ever thought of such thing. But he had no control over. He took that as Lord’s arrangement. So he did the final rites. He burnt two things. He burnt the body of the mother and he also burnt little house they had, little hut they had he also burnt. In fact, we heard that he brought the body to the house, to the hut. And he burnt the hut with that body of the mother also. Now he has no one in the world, no property, no relatives, but he had that knowledge. He had that confidential knowledge. And what is the purpose of that knowledge, ‘vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyo’ (B.G 15.15) ” I am to be known”. The knowledge that one acquires. Well then we have to understand which knowledge helps us to understand Him, the Supreme Lord.

‘raja vidya raja guhyam pavitram idam uttamam’ B.G 9.2). The king of knowledge, “adhyatma vidya vidyanam’ (B.G 10.32), ‘adhyatma vidya’ knowledge about the self. Who am I? ‘athato brahma jijnasa’. “Oh dear human being, oh, now finally and fortunately you have become human being. Become inquisitive, inquire, find out who you are, and what is this world all around you. And when you are no more, when you are dead, you would be wanting to turn left or right or go up and down. You should have all the plan. You should know everything. You should know vidya. You should also know avidya.” This is the advice of Isopanishad. Not only vidya, avidya also. So Narada Muni was equipped with this knowledge. As he had no one around him, he starts travelling, walking and walking, doing padayatra. Going through the towns, villages and industrial areas, the forest and the hills. And he comes to a very thick, forest was dark in the middle of the day. And the snakes were crawling and the owls making all the very scary sounds. Fierce animals were roaming freely; of course this was their home. In the midst of all that, there was little Narada, he was just a young boy. But he was not afraid of nothing. He was only thinking. He was remembering all that he had heard and read the Bhagavatam. He was thinking,as a result of thinking of the Lord, where is my Lord, where is my Lord? He was looking for the Lord. He was very hungry and thirsty. But all that he could see was there was a water body. So he quickly took bath and drank water. That’s all, no food, only water. He felt some relief then he sat underneath a tree and he started meditating upon the Lord in the heart. Looking, searching and searching and he was just fixed. He was fully focused, only thing he was seeing as per the description of the Lord and His beautiful form. He was fixing his mind on that Lord. He is Syamsundara, he was thinking of Syamsundara’s form. The pinkish lotus feet, the Lord’s ankle bells, Lord’s thighs are short and waist is like a lady, a thin waist Lord has. Lord’s navel, broad chest, long arms reaching His knees. Short neck, raised nose, reddish lips, lotus eyes, blooming lotus eyes. Broad forehead, beautiful curly hair and a peacock feather. ‘pitambara aravinda netra’, was wearing pitambara…like that. His palms were also pinkish and they were like a lotus hanging. He was not holding lotus but His hands were like a lotus. This part (Maharaj showing with his hand), was like a lotus flower. That part was pinkish, His fingers were like a lotus petal. And the hands were very fragrant also like a lotus, not because some powder was applied there. Naturally the Lord’s hands were fragrant.

So he had been hearing the description of the Lord. There is talk of seeing the Lord in today’s verse. So now he was seeing the Lord, Lord in his heart. And this was result of hearing about that Lord. He wanted to achieve that Lord. He wanted to see that Lord, meet Him personally. And that is what was going on here. He was meeting the Lord in his heart. He had interview with the Lord. He was seeing the Lord face to face. That darshan that audience with the Lord did not last very long. Lord disappeared and then he heard a voice. This is ahead appeal, you will be reading this in following verses and chapters. Then he heard the voice, “Yes, that is it boy. Next time I’ll give you darshan in the next life.” As he was not able to see the Lord, He was not in front of him within his heart anymore, that disturbed his darshan, his samadhi.

Then he had to wait till next birth when he became Brahma’s son. From Lord, Brahma took birth and then Narada Muni appeared. And he had lots of darshans of the Lord. Always taking darshan of the Lord, meeting with the Lord. Dancing with the Lord and everything, his life was just God centered, Krsna centered. So by that confidential knowledge, I could understand clearly the influence of the energy of Lord Sri Krsna, the creator, maintainer and annihilator of everything. By knowing that, one can return to Him and personally meet Him. And what about my life? I have to be engineer. I have to be doctor, I am already somebody. I have a job. Already 9.30 -10 o’clock I have to catch a bus. So this hearing about the Lord, making up the mind of finding the Lord, realize the Lord and finally meet the Lord, is this only for selected few or everyone should be doing this? What do you think? Well, if you are a soul, then you should have a goal of meeting the Supreme soul. Otherwise the whole thing is lost. Are we soul? Is everybody a soul? Everybody has soul? What do you think? Everyone has a soul? No? Some are thinking everybody has no soul. Some are convinced. Students are convinced. But atleast human beings, Christians say animals have no soul. So let us eat them. They are made for us to be exploited, to be enjoyed. Lets think that they are in ignorance, I would say and move on the human race. All human beings, there is a soul in their bodies. You cannot be living being if there is no soul.

Life comes from life, not from matter. Life comes from life and the Supreme life, lively Personality, Personality of Godhead. And he declares in Bhagavad Gita , ‘mamaivamso jiva loka jiva-bhutah sanatanah’ (B.G 15.7). All the living entities, they are My parts and parcels. We are the souls, we are not these bodies. I’m not this hand. This is my hand, I am not Mr. hand, I am not Mr. head, this head belongs to me and this is my chest and the belly. I am not Mr. chest, I am not the legs, legs belong to me. I am the proprietor, in other words I am the proprietor of the hands, head, belly and legs. This belongs to me. Right there with little logic, Srila prabhupada used to use this kind of logic. We could understand that there are two things. There is a ‘Me’ and ‘Mine’. This has been described in Bhagavatam as ‘aham’ and ‘mama’. ‘mi’ ani ‘maza’, ‘mein’ aur ‘mera’. So this mein’, this ‘aham’ this ‘mi’, that is me, that is soul and the rest is the body. And there is another kind of energies of the Lord, external energy of the Lord.

So need of the soul is looking forward to meet the Supreme Lord. Everyone is looking for the Lord. Even George Harrison said that. You heard of George Harrison? He is no more. But he was big big singer. His name was Harrison. He was follower of Srila Prabhupada. He used to chant “Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare”. And he did big great service to Srila Prabhupada mission in London by donating a big mansion which is known as Bhaktivedanta Manor. And he paid for the entire cost of the printing of the Krsna book long time ago. And in there, there is a George Harrison’s statement and he has signed also. So everyone, everyone is looking for the Lord knowingly or unknowingly. And he explains how everyone is looking for some rich persons. He wants to associate with the rich persons. He is attracted to the rich people or riches or the wealth. No one is exception. Everyone is looking for wealth, riches.

Where is money, where is money? “diva ca arthe haya rajan kutuba bharne nava”. As soon as they get up, Lakshmi Lakshmi Lakshmi. They are chanting the mantra. So they are looking for wealth. Krsna has that wealth, Krsna is full of that wealth, He is Bhagavan, He is dhanavan. He is Bhagavan meaning He is dhanavan. So if you are looking for wealth, that meant even to George Harrison, you are looking for the Lord. You are looking for most wealthy person. If you find someone wealthy, you will say, ‘Oh! he is not as wealthy as that one.” And you go find, meet him ad there is another wealthy person, I go to him like that. Why everyone is interested going to heavenly planets? Because there are even more riches than Tatas and Biralas . People will find Kuvera and other demigods very very rich. But then, there is someone even more richer than the demigods. That is the Supreme Lord. You will not be satisfied by meeting a person who has wealth. You will think, Oh there is another one, another one wealthier. And most wealthy person is Sri Krsna. So you are looking for that ultimate person, most wealthy person. So this is just the wealth part.

Let’s go for the beauty and, oh this person is more beautiful and you meet him. That one is more beautiful, like that. This is how we are changing bodies. Because we are looking for a beautiful person. This one is more beautiful, oh! This one is more beautiful. But the most beautiful is Sri Krsna. So that search that we are searching for a beautiful person, that search will end only when we meet our Lord who is most beautiful.
And knowledgeable, you may know so many knowledgeable people. You may be thinking, ‘My professor is very knowledgeable.’ Oh! But then I know someone else who is a noble laureate and he is more knowledgeable. But the most knowledgeable is again Sri Krsna. What He spoke only for 45 minutes, in the battlefield of Kurukshetra 5000 years ago, that still holds as the truth. Others knowledgeable persons are coming and going. And what they have to say is studied even and becomes popular for 50 years, few 100 years and then that is dumped until someone comes and proves that this is all wrong. Its all bogus, but what Krsna spoke 5000 years ago, so many scholars are trying to understand even today. So Krsna is most knowledgeable. Krsna is most powerful, He showed that, His power by lifting Govardhan hill. That’s nothing; His expansion Anantshesha is holding all the planets. Very very powerful, so He is most powerful. So these are different opulence of the Lord. So our search for the beautiful person, wealthy person, knowledgeable person, renounced person, famous person, strong person, Bhagavan.

“aisvaryasya samagrasya viryasya yasasah sriyah jnana-vairagyayos caiva”

These opulence are Krsna’s, God’s opulence. And the soul is looking for that person. And going for that person, another person, from one body to another, from one planet to another, one universe to another; this search will end only when we find the Lord of our heart. When the soul meets the Supreme soul, then we’ll be fully satisfied and not otherwise. Well, one could search or think of searching the Lord only in the human form of life, not in another species of life. ‘jalaja nava lakshani’ There are 9 lakhs varieties of species in the water. The Vedic texts are so precise. krimayo rudra-sankhyakah ‘ The germs and worms are of 11 lakhs of varieties. ‘pakshinam dasa laksyanam’- 10 lakhs varieties of birds and 20 thousands varieties of plants, 30 thousands varieties of animals. You have been adding? This is 80 lakhs and ‘manusyanam catur laksyanam’, the human species are 400,000 varieties, 4 lakh varieties. They are not all in this planet. Not necessary in this universe but wherever. This breakdown is there and of all the species the human species are most rare species.
Because this offers us the most rare opportunity of coming to the temple. Or coming to God or thinking of God or hearing about God. This dharma business, this religion business is only for human beings. I travelled long distance came from Pandharpur, not a cat has come. Not a dog has come. Only human beings have come. This is a proof that Bhagavatam is dharma, is Krsna. This chanting of the holy name , oh! This is only for human beings. Others can’t even think, it’s beyond them. Only human beings could think. So everyone, Prabhupada had said, is rotting in this material world. Everyone is rotting, suffering. I had to visit hospital in Nagpur few days ago. Terrible experience as I had to visit the Intense Care Unit. Wherever I could see, I don’t want even think …and then you die, Life is tough.

I was in New York; well I was in Nagpur few days ago. But few years ago, I was in New York. On the wall, someone wrote, some New Yoker he wrote his realization on the wall. He said, “Oh, life is tough, and then you die.” That was not all. He had another short line at the bottom. “Then you are born again. For another tough life, tough life, tough life”. Then you die and then born again and again and again and again. No one wants this, no one wants to die. Anyone here, when I had travelled and enquired in South Africa, I was there a few months ago. So, ‘No, I have not met one person, I don’t want to die, I don’t want to die.’ But everyone must die. I don’t want to die. I don’t want to suffer. But suffering is there. We were in Gaya just few weeks ago. Buddha was Siddhartha before? Siddhartha and He wanted to see the world. But His father would not let Him go. He had to stay within the palace compound. No going outside. But He insisted, ‘ No no father, I must go daddy no!’ ‘Okay boy go.’ So He was given a chariot and a chariot driver. They were going around and doing Bharata darshan. And what He saw was, you know. Someone was terribly suffering, lying on the footpath and flies…. He was very sick and what not.

‘Oh! What is wrong with this person?’
‘He is very sick, that’s why he is suffering.’
Siddhartha said, ‘Does everyone get sick?’ Sure. ‘Will I get sick also?’
‘Yes, one day sure no problem.’

And then, move on move on. Someone is struggling to cross the road. He was not only having two feet but another support stick. ‘Hey please help, help me to cross the road.’ He had trembling body. He was falling down and getting up. ‘Hey, what’s wrong with this person chariot driver?’
‘Oh, he is old man, he is weak, invalid and blind now. That’s why he is struggling.’
‘Does everyone get old?’
‘Oh for sure.’
‘What about me?’
‘You also, no problem you will also get old.’

And then he said, carry on carry on.
‘Oh what is this? Rama naam satya hai, Rama naam satya hai. Hey what is happening here? I see that one person is enjoying nice ride (Laughter). While everyone is walking in hot sun. One person is just… They are throwing flowers on him. He must be a special person. But everyone is saying Rama naam… but he is not.’
‘Oh, he is dead person.’
‘What do you mean?’
‘They will bring him to the ghat and going to burn his body.’
‘What!! Does everyone die?’
‘Sure.’
‘And what about me?’
‘No problem (Laughter), you will also die one day.’

So He had just little darshan as he was going around. Father didn’t want Him to see this. That’s why he was keeping him within the palace. So Siddhartha said, ‘ Okay chariot driver, it’s enough. I have seen the world enough, no more now I don’t want to see the world. Bring My chariot back to the palace.’ Chariot back to the palace and that night, very night…. He was young man, young wife, young son also, Rahul yes? That’s the name. He has a son called Rahul. So He took off in the middle of the night. He goes to Gaya. He becomes enlighten, he wanted to find solution. ‘Oh, I know the four problems. I have made list. Not 40, not 400 problems but My problems are four.’

‘janma mrtyu jara vyadhi duhkha dosanudarsanam (B.G 13.9)
He had made a list. ‘I have four problems that I will be facing. And if I don’t solve them in this life, I’ll have to come back again. Again those four problems and again if I don’t tackle them in that life, then another life and another. I want to put full stop to this suffering!’ So severe austerities and meditation and He becomes enlighten. He becomes Buddha. And then He wants to enlighten others. He was incarnation, one of the ten incarnations of the Lord, Buddha Dev. Don’t think He belongs only to the……. He is also our incarnation. So this Lord Buddha, He made this list for us. These are four problems. Krsna says this in Bhagavad Gita. Prabhupada is talking here. We are rotting here in this material world suffering. So, is there alternative to this suffering? The way out, is this only something that we scare people, so they have hard time even when sleeping at night? Do scriptures talking of only negative things and pointing out suffering of the world and humanity and individuals? No, that’s not the case. There is way out and that way out is realization. I am a soul, I am atma, I am atma. I am spirit soul. I am Krsna’s. I belong to God, I am His part and parcel and I must meet Him. There is so much knowledge about these matters. The soul and the Supreme soul and there is yet another kingdom of the Lord; spiritual kingdom of the Lord. No one knows about it, Krsna knows. And hundreds and thousands of pure devotees have confirmed this fact. Pure devotees, they have no tendency to cheat anybody. Narada Muni, Madhavacharya, Tukaram Maharaj, well just named few. There are thousands of them. Hundreds and thousands say the same thing over again and again and again. They only think of the welfare of others, these great personalities. And they are confirming these facts which have been said by Krsna in Bhagavad Gita or described in Bhagavatam.

Scientists do not know, of course well why should scientist know? Just because you are scientist, you should know everything? There was one honest scientist. He was again talking of only material knowledge, was Newton or Einstein or something. He took one particle of sand on the beach. He was on the beach. ‘I know only just one particle. I don’t know about all the particles around me. That much knowledge. There is so much more to know. I know only little bit, this tiny bit.’ We all have tiny brains, with the tiny brain how much could you know? All that people are knowing is about the matter. But there is so much to know about the spirit soul and the spiritual world. The Russian scientists came to conclusion, ‘Oh, if there is a matter, there must be anti matter also. Then is a complete combination.’ They came to this conclusion. If there is matter, there must be anti matter also. Well, you may know something something from this world. You wanted to become javan or kisan or doctor or engineer or some kind of professional. Well fine, we all do that. We know about this trade, that brands about the computers or constructions or cloth making or building, whatever different different things each one of us. But there is one thing that everyone must know about and that is the soul. About soul, everyone should have knowledge. About this world and worldly things, I may know something. And he knows another thing and he knows another thing. He is a science student, he is artist, he is biologist, he is a physicist, he is a geologist, he is a botanist. I am finished with the list. Cosmology, astronomy okay like that. There are so many departments of knowledge. And he belongs to this department, that department. But there is one department which is common for all the souls. There is one knowledge that everyone must study.

Prabhupada was taken on a tour of Boston University and he visited all the departments, 20-30 big tour. And at the end he said, ‘Where is that department that talks about the soul? You don’t have such department? It is incomplete.’ Where is the branch of knowledge? Where is the faculty that teaches about ‘Who am I’? I am studying everything else in the world but I do not know who am I. This is the cause of suffering. This sense of so called enjoyment is there on the surface level which does not last very long. ‘ehi samsparsah ja bhoga duhkha yona ya evate’ Anyone who is enjoying must suffer. This is the law also of this world. Those who wish to enjoy, we don’t stop you. Go ahead enjoy but be prepared to suffer. You may not want to suffer but you must suffer. You have to suffer. These two things go together. This is part of knowledge. This Gita will teach. Be prepared, be aware. You want to enjoy? Okay but you will be suffering. It is not possible to enjoy only. It is also not possible to suffer only. The complete package is two types of seasons. Sukha season and then dukha season. Every body’s life has these two seasons. But Krsna consciousness is talk about going above. No sukha, no dukha only anand which has origin in the soul and the Supreme soul. By nature we are blissful. We talked about God and soul and Bhagavad Gita, Bhagavatam.

“Oh, but is it accepted or proven by the scientist? Is this scientific? What you are talking, is this scientific?’ Of course, it is scientific. Krsna is Supreme scientist and many more could be said. So why science has to put stamp of approval on what Krsna has to say, what sadhus have to say, what Bhagavad Gita, Bhagavatam has to say, why? Is this scientific? Could you prove it scientifically? Could be proven, It is a science. To begin with this is a science, original science, the best science. Science of the soul, science of God, sastra.

‘yah sastra vidhim utsrjya vartate kama karatah na
Sa siddhim avapnoti na sukham na param gatim’ (B.G 16.23)

So anyone studying, continue your studies. Study physics, study chemistry, study this, study that. Study germs, worms (Laughter). So many persons, they take one germ and the whole life, they are focused on one tiny germ. The movements, the life span the tendencies, likings and disliking of that germ. Whether germ or something of that sort. We are studying whole life. Study little bit of that but lot of times we invested in studying who we are. Who is God? Where and how we exist and what is my relationship with Him? And once we have Him, we have everything.
Srila Prabhupada used to say so, one department, another knowledge, another property, this that. Different different zeroes. There is no ‘1’, then all these zeroes put together and one big zero. Okay I’ll stop. Any questions? Quick questions. There is so much to talk about. I am sure Radheyshyam prabhu, another prabhus have been talking to you and you have been discussing this. We are happy to see so many students from all over the planet. All over the country have assembled here. This is a rare opportunity for us to see such a scene. Young people, of course why should we wait for our body are rotten and then make an offering of rotten. The fresh flower, fresh fruits of this season. And you are the fresh fruits of this season, of this world. And all of you should be offered at the lotus feet of Sri Krsna.

Tamal Krsna Goswami Maharaj used to talk like this, a garland of jivas. ‘Prabhupada, we have come from the West and here are 108 new bhaktas.’ As if they are like a garland and they are being offered to Srila Prabhupada. Please offer them to Sri Krsna. Bring them to Sri Krsna, offer them garland of flowers or garland of fruits. So here we see nice offering. Why you should be serving Maya, you should be serving Krsna. This is the proposal of Krsna, this is the proposal of all the great sages and saintly persons and our ancestors have talked like this. Only when we started imitation of the West and as they made us the slaves for almost 1000 years by the Muslims and the Britishers and then the Dutch and French. Then we lost the track, we get distracted. Even after the independence. Okay we have independence so that we could have Rama raja. We’ll establish the principles of Rama, Krsna. This was the vision. but again forgotten as soon as we had the first Prime Minister of India. He said, ‘Oh this dams, the bridges and the factories, these are our temples. These are the places of worship or us.’ Although born in a Brahmin family, as he was born in a Brahmin family, but he was brought up and his education in the West, he was very much influenced by the West. He used to get his cloths ironed in Paris. And they used to bring his cloths to Delhi from Paris, ironed cloths. Then he would put on his cloths. He was influenced like that. He wanted his whole country like that. Again the modern science, we are modern scientific and industry and technologies, the way to go. So many promises made by technology and the industrialist civilization have been not fulfilled. And the ill effects of that modern technology and industrial lifestyles are about to… in front of us. 10% of all Indians are having kidney trouble. Well because I just happened to read this two days ago. One of every 10 Indians is having kidney trouble. And heart trouble, so many other kinds of troubles. Someone else kidney trouble, but someone else with some other kind of troubles. Soon Indians to be on the top of the list of HIV, the Aids we are leading. We are getting there, we’ll be number one. I was in Africa, the life span of south Africa has been reduced to 33 years. With more than half the population is suffering with the Aids. Shame! Matter of shame.

The most sick country in the world is America and the terrorism. We cannot have a sleep at night. You have nice bed, you could buy bed but not sleep. You could buy food but not hunger. There is no hunger, no sleep because of anxiety or so many things. This is the spirit of enjoyment. It is the result of enjoyment. Suffering is here catching up with us. We should wake up. If we cannot wake up everybody, we could start by waking up few people. I can see here, good gathering here, woken up or waking up. ‘tamaso ma jyotir gamaya’ Get out of the darkness, go to the light. Light of what? Light of Supreme Personality of Godhead is light. Krsna is ‘surya sam maya hai andhakar’. Light of Bhagavat, light of Bhagavad Gita, be knowledgeable. Know who you are then proceed. Stop, think and proceed.
So this is the proposal of International Society for Krsna Consciousness. This was what Prabhupada all life long, he was talking this language on behalf of Krsna. And in only 40 years ago, there was just him by himself. And you will be happy to know, I am sure you know. Already so many hundreds and thousands millions of followers… The Krsna Consciousness has reached 160 countries in 40 years. It’s good news or no? Haribol!! And it’s just the beginning. That means people around the world; Krsna Consciousness is in big demand. And it is the only alternative. There is no other way. There is no other way. There is no other way. Krsna is the only way, Krsna Consciousness is the only way. The holy name is the only way to get Krsna. So continue with your studies and whatever else you have been doing in your life. But add Krsna, know Krsna and spread this knowledge of Krsna around which is called Krsna Consciousness. This will do good to you, your family. This is good for your family. Because your family is also souls, family of souls. This will do good to our country, to the humanity. And all the living entities will be benefitted by this message of Bhagavatam. By knowing that, that refers to knowing Bagavatam, knowing Bhagavad gita, one can return to Him, return to Krsna and personally meet Him. That is what we said in the beginning. This is nice proposal, wonderful proposal of meeting with the Lord. And Narada Muni is speaking from his personal first time experience. Such meeting is possible and this is our birth right to meet Krsna.

Prabhupada’s spiritual master said, ‘This political freedom is not that important. More important is to make the soul free from the shackles of this bond of this material existence.’ That is why in 1922, Prabhupada was about to join Mahatma Gandhi’s freedom movement. He had already started wearing kadhi cloths and attending meeting. Also going to Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose, his underground meetings. And as he met with Bhakti Siddhanta Sarasvati, he said, ‘ No no, its more important to take up the mission of Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu seriously. And make people free from illusion. Free from ignorance. Ignorance is cause of suffering, make them knowledgeable.’ And Prabhupada took that instruction very very seriously. Thank God that this instruction was given by Bhakti Siddhanta and he took it seriously also Prabhupada. As a result, what is happening? As a result we are sitting here today. Someone is talking and others are hearing and others will also talk further about this. So it started in 1922 with Prabhupada taking this mission very very seriously; spreading the knowledge, making the people knowledgeable. I am sure you will like not to forget Krsna. We can’t forget. He is so wonderful, how could you forget Him. Forget everything else. It’s all rubbish, all temporary cause of suffering. Embrace Krsna, go for Krsna. Meet Krsna, personally meet Krsna, Start meeting, Radha Kunjabihari is Krsna. See Him, see with the knowledge what you have heard and stand before Him. And chant His glories, chant His holy names in front of Radha Kunjabihari. Take Krsna Prasad and every person that you care… I care for my parents. I care for my friend. I really want to care, do something useful. If you are thinking like this, please share this Krsna Consciousness with them. Then and then only you have done something tangible, substantial for them. Otherwise this ‘ahara nidra bhayam maithun’ business goes on. Don’t think this eating, sleeping, roti, kapra, makaan, everyone is provided.

Whether in the bird society, animal society. Just because they don’t have university, they don’t have parliament, they don’t have Super bazaar or big bazaar like in Pune; they have big bazaar now. Is this big bazaar going to make Pune happier? Don’t be in illusion. We guarantee Pune will be more suffering in years to come. Pune vasi show us hand and ask us, ‘Please give us your predictions.’ So we will say, you are enjoying? Yes yes. You want to enjoy? Yes yes. Material way? Yes yes. You will suffer!! (Laughter).

We don’t have to curse anyway. Why should we be cursing? But we could only speak the truth. We guarantee suffering. Well, I don’t have to do anything. It is all programmed. It is all planned. So curb down this enjoying spirit independent of Krsna. Of course there is so much enjoyment in relationship with Krsna. So much enjoyment. So much to enjoy. We are not inviting you to come and suffer with us. Radheyshyam is not inviting, he is going all over the country and bringing young people and preaching to them. So that they would nicely suffer (laughter) He is not envious. Don’t think he is suffering and he wants us also to suffer. In fact, he is enjoying and he wants to see that everyone else also will enjoy. Enjoyment all the way, only enjoyment. ‘pratipadam purnamrtasvadam svadhu svadhu pade pade’. We guarantee that kind of happiness for everybody. Whole humanity could be enjoying for following this path shown by Sri Krsna described in Bhagavad Gita and Bhagavatam. And could be realized by chanting Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.

Questions:
Question by devotee: Hare Krsna Maharaj, please accept my humble obeisance’s. So many times we hear about this philosophy, we should love God. We should serve God. We will be happy. But at the time of chanting the holy name, we are not able to concentrate. We are not able to relish. It is like a burden for us. How can we improve in our process of hearing so that sufficient effect will be there?

Maharaj: There is nothing wrong in Holy name. The same Holy name that Narada Muni chanted has been handed down to us to this day. Same potency, ‘krsna caitanya rasa vigraha naam cintamani rasa vigraha’. Its full of juice and full of anand. How you apply is important. What is the other way? Okay, you are in a boat. The boat is in the ocean. Well, some difficulty with the boat or something. Should you be jumping in the ocean again? Is that how you will be saving yourself? Fix the boat, repair the boat or just… Something wrong with the boat. Just fix it. Then you will survive to cross over. Not that there is something wrong with the boat, so I’ll just jump off the boat. And then you will be in the deep trouble of the deep ocean. So having faith in chanting the holy name, that is also required. So anyone who could give us that faith, association of those faithful devotees.
Prabhupada gave the example of the jaundice. Someone has the jaundice, sugar candy is the way. The person eats sugar candy but he says, because of the sickness of the jaundice, the sugar candy even taste very bitter. He says, ‘No, get me another type of medicine.’ You want to be cured. This is the only medicine. And if the person goes on eating that sugar candy, then he will be cured. And as he is cured, he will also experience the sweetness of that sugar candy. And the time will come when he will say, ‘Hey get me more, get me more sugar candy.’ Its finished, “No no go buy it!’ So Holy name is very very sweet. There is list of ten offences in Nectar of Devotion one should be avoiding.
‘aparadh sunya hoi lao krsna nama’

So become free from aparadhs. Endeavor to become free from aparadh. Faithfully keep chanting to the Holy names of the Lord. Caitanya Mahaprabhu took to the chanting and He went mad. We will say same thing. Narada Muni was enjoying, Caitanya Mahaprabhu also was enjoying and He goes to His Guru maharaj. “The Holy name is so sweet. What kind of mantra you have given to Me? ‘japite japite mantra karila pagal’ I become pagla baba. I become pagal, mad man by chanting these Holy names. ‘kiba mantra dila gosani kiba tara bala’. (CC Adi 7.81) So much bala, so much strength, so much sweetness in this chanting. I have gone mad, I can’t just sit. I have to get up and dance. What is this?” So the same mantra. This chanting of the Holy name is same mantra deliver, very kindly delivered to us by Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu. The properties of the Holy name and the soul are very similar. They are of similar characteristics. They belong to same world, same family. They have eternal connection, relationship. So just push yourself, don’t stop. Keep going, keep chanting. You could discuss further. Maybe take advice what changes could be made in your some habits or some lifestyles, your dealings with other matters or of the world. The Holy name is potent and sweet. So we encourage everyone to chant. Don’t stop, success is not in stopping. Beg Holy name. “My dear Holy name, please I beg You. Please reveal unto me. Please forgive my offences. Give me intelligence oh Holy name so that I can avoid offences”. You could be personal with the Holy name. Because Holy name is Lord Himself. You could reveal your heart to the Holy name. And the Holy name is very very kind. He will listen to your sincere prayers.

One more question?
Question by devotee: Please accept my humble obeisance’s, Maharaj you talked about Lord Buddha. We know that God is God from eternity. Nobody becomes God. But still in case of Lord Buddha, we see that at a certain point of time He gets enlightenment. And He performs austerities…What is the purpose of His behavior in that matter, like He went out and sees things and then He performs austerity. He neither went to gurukul nor anywhere.

Maharaj: Maharaj laughing, Well, He is God. He doesn’t have to go to any gurukul. But on other hand, to become God realized, He is performing austerities, the penances and meditation. He is teaching by His example, ‘yad yada carati srestas’. Buddha didn’t go to gurukul and became disciple of spiritual master. And Krsna went to Ujjain and He became disciple of Sandipani Muni. It was not necessary. He is God, not necessary for Him to become disciple. He is source of all knowledge. Rama, He also became a disciple. Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu, He also had His guru. He found His guru in Gaya, in the same town. Caitanya Mahaprabhu had gone to Gaya. Buddha was enlightened in Gaya. Same Gaya Caitanya Mahaprabhu met His spiritual master. So They don’t need to accept spiritual masters. But they are playing these roles, setting examples so we could learn from that. But as a God, They may not sometimes follow the whole thing, all the steps, so in case of Buddha. Some formal acceptance of spiritual masters, other gurus also, who was it? 24 gurus, Dattatreya, He had 24 gurus. Even a prostitute, a child and a whole list, a pigeon, earth, water, fire like that… There are 24, so He is learning from them.

Caitya guru, Lord in the heart, paramatma in the heart is the first guru. In fact, because we do not listen to Him, Lord in the heart, then He comes out. Or comes in front of us in the form of spiritual master. Or Lord speaks His message through somebody through His pure devotee who plays the role of spiritual master. So Lord would like to talk to the soul. The soul and Supreme soul, they are sitting to each other. Katha Upanishad describes how this body is like a tree and on this tree there are two birds. One is atma, other one is paramatma. They are just next to each other, they are neighbors forever. In everybody the soul gets, embodied soul, the Lord is there. So He is speaking. But we are so dull headed and what not. So we do not listen to what He has to say. The same Lord is then trying to teach us through the agency of the spiritual master. And there are so many other agencies around that we could learn from. Lord Buddha did not accept the formal initiation. He is Lord, He doesn’t have to…for He heard the Lord in the heart. For what He saw, He came to conclusion. Those things, the dead body was His guru, made Him think seriously. Is that okay?

Question: What about the austerity? Like it appears that, if we follow Him then one need to perform austerity to get enlightened. Austerity in a different way.

Maharaj: Sure, without austerity you cannot achieve anything. One of the big big austerity in this world these days is to stay together. Staying together is a big austerity. The wife and husband, they don’t want to perform that austerity. Or so many other nations are getting broken into pieces. The big crowd, even brahmacari ashram is hard. That’s one austerity. There are varieties of austerities to be performed. By body, some by tongue, vaca, some by mind. Austerities one must perform in every Satya, Treta, Dwapar, Kali. There are different means to achieve that goal for purification. Austerity are there, with the austerity comes the purification.

‘tapo divyam putraka yena sattvam suddhyed
yasmad brahma sauthyam tu anantam’ (SB 5.5.1)

As one performs austerities, tapa, tapa. Brahma heard these two words in the very beginning. He didn’t know, what I should be doing. What is my goal. What is expected of me. And he was curious to know. ‘athato brahma jijnasa’. He heard two words, two letters ‘ta’ ‘pa’. And as he put those two words together, ta…pa, ta…pa, tapa while he performed austerities. He goes back to the lotus, he sits there and he performs austerities. So the very first and only being at that time in the whole universe, he starts his spiritual life with austerities. And that tapasya purifies one and with that comes the real anand, real bliss, real life. So tapasya is for cleansing, cleansing body, like to make our talk refined. It should be refined in our speech. Of course no vulgar language, no nasty dirty things. Speak the truth, this is austerity. Be kind, with the mind, of course whole thing starts with the mind. If the mind is not purified, through the word and body, we’ll be committing sin and offences. So the austerity of mind is there, of the speech, of the actions. Krsna describes this in Bhagavad Gita. So austerities that He performed, Buddha performed and we also perform. Chanting of Hare Krsna, this is tapa. This japa is tapa. This japa is yajna. This japa is archana, this japa is dhyan. Tapa is there,

“samo damas tapah saucam ksantir arjavam eva ca
jnanam vijnanam astikyam brahma-karma svabhava-jam” (BG 18.42) Krsna is talking.

Venue: ISKCON Juhu

Dated: 16-10-2011

‘Om namo bhagavate vasudevaya’

Sri Sri Radha Rasabihari ki jai!!

Srila Prabhupada ki jai!!

Grantharaj Srimad Bhagavatam ki jai!!

“tam agatam ta utthaya pranipatyabhinandya ca
pujayitva yathadesam sukhasinam athabruvan” (S.B 4.31.4)

Translation and short purport as by Srila Prabhupada, Srila Prabhupada ki jai!!

Translation:
As soon as the Pracetas saw that the great sage Narada had appeared, they immediately got up even from their asanas. As required, they immediately offered obeisances and worshipped him, and when they saw that Narada Muni was properly seated, they began to ask him questions.

Purport:
It is significant that all the Pracetas were engaged in practicing yoga to concentrate their minds on the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

pracetasa ucuh

“svagatam te surarse adya distya no darsanam gatah
tava cankramanam brahmann abhayaya yatha raveh” (S.B 4.31.5)

pracetasah ucuh-the Pracetas said; su-agatam-welcome; te-unto you; sura-rse- O sage among the demigods; adya-today; distya-by good fortune; nah-of us; darsanam-audience; gatah-you have come; tava-your; cankramanam-movements; brahman- O great brahmana; abhayaya-for fearlessness; yatha-as; raveh- of the sun.

Translation and purport again by Srila Prabhupada ki jai!!

Translation:
All the Pracetas began to address the great sage Narada: O great sage, O brahmana, we hope you met with no disturbances while coming here. It is due to our great fortune that we are now able to see you. By the travelling of the sun, people are relieved from the fear of the darkness of night-a fear brought about by thieves and rogues. Similarly, your traveling is like the sun’s, for you drive away all kinds of fear.

Purport:

Because of the night’s darkness, everyone is afraid of rogues and thieves, especially in great cities. People are often afraid to go out on the streets, and we understand that even in a great city like New York people do not like to go out at night. More or less, when it is night everyone is afraid, either in the city or in the village. Ok village is also there, I was thinking of my experience of the village, getting scared, not only cities, Prabhupada is writing, in the village also. Jaya Radha Rasabihari ki jai!! However, as soon as the sun rises, everyone is relieved. Similarly, this material world is dark by nature. Everyone is afraid of danger at every moment, but when one sees a devotee like Narada, all fear is relieved. Just as the sun disperses darkness, the appearance of a great sage like Narada disperses ignorance. When one meets Narada or his representative, a spiritual master, one is freed from all anxiety brought about by ignorance.

(Maharaj repeating the verse and translation again)

I remember, one thing came to my mind that we also have travelled to Mathura by train and then to Radha Damodara temple. This was in ’72 and just now we have, we have darshan of deities there. We went into quarters of Srila Prabhupada small and as we were sitting around, about dozen devotees from Mumbai, our leader was Pancadravida prabhu and he was going to be swami during that Kartika. So we had arrived and I was also, I was Raghunath and I was going to become Lokanath that month, anyways a small thing. As we were sitting around Srila Prabhupada, it was Panchadravida prabhu; it is only appropriate as we see here the etiquette. The Pracetas as they are sitting at the feet of Narada Muni and as he has taken his seat, they are questioning, they are also glorifying him.

So in that mood, Panchadravida, he was glorifying Srila Prabhupada and it was morning hours, sun had just risen as we were going from Mathura station to Radha Damodara, sun was rising in the east and as we arrived in Prabhupada’s quarters, he started glorifying Srila Prabhupada.

‘Srila Prabhupada, you are brilliant like sun’ I do not remember more but he has, I don’t know maybe he got this idea from Pracetas, that Narada Muni was compared- ‘abhayaya yatha raveh’ just like, your travelling is like the sun’s travelling and he drives away all kinds of fear. So very similar the mood or expression was there, addressing on our behalf, our leader was addressing Srila Prabhupada and comparing him, ‘you are like a sun, you are brilliant like a sun’, Srila Prabhupada ki jai!!

‘svagatam’ at the time, Srila Prabhupada welcomed us in Vrndavana and he was inquiring. ‘How was your travelling, we hope you made no disturbances while coming here’, that is Pracetas talking to Narada Muni. So in Vrndavana, Srila Prabhupada was also making inquiries, how was our journey, in fact, another time in Mayapur, we walked from Vrndavana to Mayapur and as we arrived there in Prabhupada’s quarters. Prabhupada inquired from all the padayatris bullock cart Sankirtan Party, ‘how was the journey?’, Prabhupada asked, ‘how was the journey?’ and I remember me replying saying, ‘it was easy journey to Mayapur planet Prabhupada’. The title of the book, Easy Journey to Other Planets, so I put that into, it was easy journey to Mayapur planet Srila Prabhupada. We had travelled in both of these cases, so Srila Prabhupada was very kindly inquiring how was the journey, how was the travels.And here Pracetas were inquiring as we always do; how was the travel, how was the flight.

‘svagatam’ and you are welcome, ‘svagatam te’- we welcome you and who are you, ‘sura rse’ you are sage among the Demigods, the few verses earlier was also described as the ‘sura – asura’ he’s the sage among the suras and asuras. ‘dhiradhira jana priyau priya karau manyau saranyakarau’ like that the six Goswamis, ‘dhiras and adhiras, gentlemen and ruffians, in both the camps, six Goswamis were very popular or honoured, so was Srila Narada Muni. ‘distya no darsanam gatah’- it is our good fortune that we have darshan of yours, we are getting your audience, we have your audience, ‘darsanam’ we’ll come back to this ‘darsanam’. ‘tava cankramanam brahman’, ‘cankramanam’ – going round and round and round, you are ‘cankramanam’, you are going around, ‘yatha raveh’ -it is just like ravi, ravi is sun. Today is Ravivar, today is Sunday, today is sun’s day, so today is called Ravivar and tomorrow is Somavar, someone else’s day and Mangal’s var. We have 7 days each one for attributed to different Personalities. Today is the sun’s day, Ravi’s var, Ravivar today so ‘yatha raveh’ just like sun. Your wandering around is just like sun and not only you are wandering like sun, that is also something else also like sun that you do, what does the sun do? He disperses darkness, disperses darkness, ‘krsna surya sam maya hain andakar, jahan krsna vahan nahin maya andakar‘ -where there is sun, there is no darkness, where there is Krsna, there is no Maya.

So where there is sun, there is no darkness. So as sun disperses the darkness, drives away darkness and as the result ‘abhayaya’ immediately people are relieved, as soon as the sun rise, they get relieved, relief from the darkness and what causes, darkness causes fear, fear from thieves and rogues and what, serpents’ lot of parties. The ghosts, they also appear at night time, terrorists may come take advantage of darkness, the dark activities, activities in mode of ignorance take place at night time. There is ‘tama’ what is that? ‘evanukampartham aham ajnana jam tamah‘ Lord Krsna says in Bhagavad Gita 10th chapter, 11 verse- that when I am kind to somebody, what do I do? ‘anukampartham’ My ‘anukampa’ -My compassion to somebody, in what form? ‘aham ajnana jam tamah’ I- aham, ‘ajnanajam tamah’ ‘tama’ the darkness born from ‘ajnana jam’. Ajnana- the ignorance, ja- the birth, ignorance gives birth to tamah- the darkness, ‘ajnanajam tamah’ ‘aham ajnanajam tamah’ what do I do? ‘nasayamy’ – I destroy that ignorance caused by what? ‘tamah’ ‘aham ajnana jam’ ignorance, darkness caused by ignorance, ‘nasayamy’ I destroy how do I destroy? ‘nasayamy atma bhava stho jnana dipena bhasvata’- I light the lamp within the heart of that person and ‘bhasvata’ immediately there is the light, ‘bhasvata’ . ‘Bha’ is light, ‘bhaskara’ sun is also called Bhaskara, ‘kara’ means doer, he is a doer of what? ‘bha’, the light. He is a doer of the light. He is a spreader of the light; he spreads the light, so sun has another name called Bhaskara. As also Bharata, people of the nation which are those who are ‘rata’ are absorbed in ‘bha’ the light, the light of torch, light of knowledge and they are Bharatiya not just because of their passport, I have Indian Passport, I am Bharatiya, I am Indian, no. By definition, if you are absorbed in light coming from Bhagavata and Bhagavad Gita, then you are Bharatiya, then you should have Bharatiya passport otherwise we should surrender all the passports (Laughter).

So as that sun spreads the light, drives away the fear and that is what you do also, O! brahman, Narad Muni has been addressed as first of all, you are a ‘sura-rse’ – you are sage among the demigods, that is one address and you are also brahman, you are brahman translated as ‘brahmana’. And who is the Brahman ? ‘brahma janati iti brahmanah’ ‘brahma janati’ – when one knows brahman, brahma is a brahmana. And in this case, he not only knows ‘brahmeti paramatmeti bhagavan’ he also knows Bhagavan, so you are knower of the Truth, you are knower of the Truth, O! how lucky we are. ‘distya’ we are very fortunate that today we have ‘ady’- today we have ‘darsanam gatah’, we have your darshan, we have your audience, ‘svagatam’- you are welcome. Such Personality as you are, we welcome you, ‘su svagatam, “svagatam krsna …..……svagatam” we welcome you.

When King Pariksit welcomed Sukadeva Goswami to the large audience of sages sitting on the bank of Ganga, sitting around King Pariksit and wondering what to do, what process he should follow and whole deliberation is going on. And while that was on, there Sukadeva Goswami arrives and the children in Hastinapur and other folks they didn’t know. So that time King Pariksit said also; ‘yesam samsmaranat pumsam sadyah sudhyanti vai grhahi’ (S.B 1.19.33) just like this, just like, what happens? This ‘sadyah’ means today, as adya and sadyah. Pracetas are using word ‘adya’ and King Pariksit says sadyah means today, now and here what happens? ‘suddhyanti’ there is a purification, ‘grha’ homes are purified, people in this home are purified instantly ‘yesam samsmaranat’ just by remembering you, just remembrance of you is sufficient for the purification. But ‘kim punah’ but is all good fortune, King Pariksit said, ‘kim punar darsanam’ you are giving us darshan, remembrance was enough but today we have your darshan, ‘kim punar darsanam sparsa‘. We are able to see you, we’ll be able to touch your lotus feet, ‘pada sauca’ we’ll be able to wash your lotus feet, ‘asanadibhih’ and we’ll be able to offer you exalted seat and ‘adibhih’ and that’s not all. ‘adibhih’ lots of many other things we’ll be able to offer to you, a big feast for you and when you lie on the bed, we’ll be able to massage you, do this for you, do that for you. O! how good, its good fortune of all of us assembled sages and of course myself King Pariksit. That is his mood, he has welcomed Sukadeva Goswami and he says ‘tava darsanam’ Your darsanam and not only darshan, sparsa, pada, sauca, asana adibhih, O! how fortunate I am today, King Pariksit said. So ‘darsanam’ Pracetas are talking of darshan, King Pariksit is talking of darshan ‘distya no darsanam gatah’.

So this darshan when, of course we used to have a darshan, is this darshan time? Could we go see Srila Prabhupada, is this darshan time? Yes Yes darshan time. In Bombay we were very fortunate. To be in Bombay was a great good fortune for us, we Bombay brahmacaris, this being Srila Prabhupada’s office. He spent more time in the office right? People spent lots of time in the office. So Srila Prabhupada spent lot of time in his office more than, Mayapur not as much in fact. If you go through biography, he spent little time, only doing festivals in between the festivals, hardly ever was there may be just few times. I wrote a book and did a little research about it but he spent lots of time here and Srila Prabhupada used to come all the time coming from London, coming from Los Angeles, coming from Tokyo, coming from here, coming from there and also coming- going and we used to be here. Srila Prabhupada used to be for months together in Bombay. One time he spent 3 months, 3 months and every morning there was the Bhagavatam class by Srila Prabhupada! Haribol!!. There was no need for announcement, today Bhagavatam class, no announcement (Laughter).

Srila Prabhupada was in town, every morning and classes is one of the items. Every morning, morning walk, every morning he would return from this road, this building was not there. Temple was where this tower, one of these towers, temple was right there and as Srila Prabhupada returned from the beach; one time also I was the pujari, head pujari, Prabhupada always coming on time, before time, waiting and greeting of the deities, ‘govindam adi purusam’ then asana. Srila Prabhupada used to take his asana, we used to offer him Guru Puja, not just some smaranam, not just smarana, not just remembrance, he is to be right there sitting in his asana ‘Vyas asana’. And we offering him Guru Puja and kirtans and offering him flowers and toward the end he is throwing flowers and we used to jumped to catch those flowers. And Prabhupada is signaling us, we were already dancing but he would do like this, ‘jump high, high, jump high’, we were thinner or lighter those days especially I was (laughter). So flying high was easier, now we can’t even lift our 80 or 100kgs or and then ‘jaya radha madhava kunjaihari’ his style of ‘jaya radha madhava’ and drums and then Srila Prabhupada very intensely with his eyes closed and singing ‘jaya radha madhava. And we would see sometimes the tears from his eyes gliding down and then ‘jaya om visnnupada….’ obeisances and ‘om namo bhagavate…..’ class and then during the day we would go do preaching, making life members and again we used to have darshan. Those buildings don’t exist now, now we have, heaven has cropped up or heaven has descended, they were different buildings and Prabhupada stayed in one of those buildings and then around I think 5 o’clock or so after we returned from preaching, again darshan of Srila Prabhupada on the roof top.

We used to bring some life members and friends others also, darshan on the roof and then Bhagavad Gita class everyday he used to give Bhagavad Gita class. So day in and day out, hundred times, hundred morning walks, hundred times he returned for Radha Rasabihari darshan, a hundred Guru Puja, hundred Bhagavatam classes and during the day some other interactions, more darshan and on and on and on such a great good fortune of ours to have Srila Prabhupada amongst us with us and not only we had darshan, but sparsa- the touch and ‘asana adi bhih’ and all that we had able to do. So there used to be darshan hours, O! darshan hour!

So there is a talk of darshan here, so when we go for darshan or when we have darshan of the spiritual master and of great acharyas, we have darshan of maha bhagavata darshan. Why do we call that as a darshan? Is it only we are able to see him and you take some photographs also go away, we have darshan, we captured him. Seeing, well that is one kind of darshan, it’s just limited. Meaning of that “darshan”- darshan is what he speaks, that is darshan. His speech is darshan, ‘tad viddhi pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya’ and then what happens, ‘upadeksyanti te jnanam jnaninas tattva darsinah’ (B.G 4.34). When we go for darshan we have audience, he speaks and he gives darshan, ‘tattva darshan’ he is ‘tattva darsinah’, he gives darshan of the Tattvas and ‘darsanam tattva’ is not different from darshan of the Lord. He gives darshan, even the ‘sad darshans’ the six schools of thoughts or philosophies, Sad Darshan they are called. Vedanta darshan and Sankya darshan different darshans not just philosophy. They are darshan, they are helping you, they are giving you darshan, ultimate darshan of the Lord. They are so transparent, transparent via medium that you look at them, you look through them and they do not stand between you and the Lord. You look at them, you hear them and you see the Lord. As they give the vision to see the Lord, so that you could have darshan of the Lord. So you are taking darshan of the spiritual master or exalted personality like Narada or Srila Prabhupada is the darshan of the Lord.

One time, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura was in Calcutta in his Gaudiya Math talking to a group of disciples. He begin the talk giving some darshan or some philosophical darshan, Tattva darshan and then one disciple, he got up he went away and he returned after some times and when he returned, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvate Thakura Maharaj inquired. ‘Oh! Where did you go?’, ‘ Guru Maharaj I went for darshan, I went for darshan’. He went into the temple room and he had come back and he thought ‘if I give this reason I had gone for darshan, ok ok thank you, good, you had gone for darshan, sit down.’ He was expecting that kind of response, ‘ My Guru Maharaj will be pleased that to know that I had gone for darshan but Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura was displeased with the disciple. “Oh! You went for darshan? And as you stood in front of the deities, you opened your eyes, right?’ yes I did, ‘and you closed your eyes’ yes I did ‘ and opened and closed’. So Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura he said, ‘ so how was your eyes exercise? (Laughter) how was your eyes exercise, you open your eyes every time, you close your eyes, so how was your eye exercise?’ and he rebuked his disciple.

‘You fool! I was giving you darshan here, right here I was arranging darshan, I was giving you eyes to see the Lord and you prefer to go away and take darshan on your own with your eyes, carma caksu, carma caksu, with eyes made up of leather, the skin. ‘cakshu dan dilo jei janme janme prabhu sei’ ‘cakshu dan’ so when there is darshan given by great personalities, Mahatmas, ‘mahatmanas tu mam partha daivim prakritim asritah’ (B.G 9.13). Those who have taken shelter of ‘daivim prakriti’. When we take darshan , they are giving us ‘drishti’, they are giving us vision to see the Lord, that way they give us darshan. That is why we say, ‘om ajnana timirandhasya jnananjana salakaya caksur unmilitam yena tasmai sri guruve namah’. What does this verse say? ‘om ajnana timirandhasya’, ‘ajnana’ again, ‘ ajnanajam tamah’ what Krsna says in the Bhagavad Gita, ‘ajnanajam tamah’ ignorance is coming from ajnana, the darkness is coming from ajnana, ignorance. So ‘timirandhasya’ – I was in total darkness, what did my spiritual master do? ‘ om ajnana timirandhasya jnananjana’, ‘ jnanajana salakaya’ – the doctor those who do operation, ‘salakaya’ take scissors, they take different instruments, ‘salakaya’ he used, ‘ jnananjana salakaya’ and ‘caksur unmilitam’, ‘caksur unmilitam’- he opened my eyes. I was totally blind, covered with ignorance and the darkness and he opened my eyes and he gave me, showed me the light of the day, light coming from Krsna, he has showed me the Lord or showed me the path, showed me the technique, the process how to see the Lord, to meet the Lord.

‘jiv jago jiv jago, gauracanda bole’, so that my jiva, my jiva, its I am jiva I am living entity not my living entity could we say? No..I cannot say my living entity, Krishna could say we are His living entity. ‘mamaivamso’ but when we talk, we cannot say my jiva, I am jiva, I am jivatma not that I have jivatma, you understand the difference? It’s not my jivatma. So ‘jiv jago jiv jago’ that song by Bhaktivinoda Thakura says, ‘jiv jago’ – wake up sleeping soul. What do we say? wake up sleeping soul and not wake up sleeping body. Body wakes up and body hungry finally. After 10 hours of sleep, when you are hungry, body wakes up, time to go to the office, body wakes up or this that or some call, someone knocking at the door. Paper! Paper! Newspaper or raddi paper and then we wake up but even after that kind of waking up, jiva- the soul keeps sleeping all day and all night. Soul never wakes up, completely covered all over.

So who wakes up the soul, we say ‘jiv jago jiv jago gauracanda bole’, now Gaurachanda has come and Gaurachandra is calling, that is why, what you should do?. ‘kota nidra jao maya pisacira kole’, that is how long I am going to sleep in the bed, but you are out of the bed, you are woken up but this call says, how long am I going to sleep in the lap of witch called Maya? . So, one gets up, gets out of the bed, you are out of the bed, you have jumped out of the bed but you continue to be still in the bed, in the lap of Maya. So ‘jiv jago’ hence O! Soul, wake up sleeping soul- wake up sleeping soul. So that waking up is done by Narada Muni, Srila Prabhupada and all the representatives of the Lord are here to wake us up all. And after we have woken up, they give us darshan, ‘ distya no darsanam gatah’ they give us darshan, they give us eyes to see, they give us Tattva Darshan so that we could see things as they are.
Now what time is it? ok…

So that’s Lord arrangement, Lord comes personally also, ‘sambhavami yuge yuge’ and then next yuga again He comes, next age and next in between what happens? He sends His devotees, He sends His representatives. And His people, they act on His behalf, they are empowered, they have Power of Attorney from the Lord and they represent Him. ‘mam ekam saranam vraja’, Lord says “surrender unto Me” and they come and what do they say? Surrender unto Krsna. Is there any difference? Prabhupada used to ask this question, ‘Is there any difference?’ Krishna says ‘mam ekam saranam vraja’- You surrender unto Krsna, surrender unto Me Krsna says and spiritual master says surrender unto Krsna, any difference? There is no difference. So this is also Bhagavad Gita As It Is.

Let Krishna speaks, you shut up, you shut up, let Krishna speaks. So this is request, they let Krsna speaks otherwise everyone is speaking, everyone is speaking, speaking, talking, talking, talk has become cheap now. The bills are much smaller now,telephone bills, the mobiles bills, what they talk is cheap and the bills also, phones are cheaper, bills are cheaper bills and talk is very very cheap talk, cheap talk. Everyone is talking, no one is hearing, everyone is talking. God has given us 2 ears and 1 mouth, should we be hearing more or talking more? 2 ears 1 mouth, hear more, talk less. Sometimes we should stop talking and listen then again of course depends whom do you talk to. Whatever little talk you talk, talk you hear that hearing, so give your ears to the Lord. In fact, this is how we take darshan. Taking darshan is not with the eyes; darshan is with the help of the ears. If you are interested in seeing or interested in darshan, you use the ears to hear, “come near- sit here- do not fear- I am here” Krsna could say. ‘abhayaya’ fearlessness; so as soon as we are with the Lord, then there is no more fear. So we take darshan of these great Personalities and we become fearless because ignorance is destroyed, driven away and Maya is replaced with Krsna. ‘nirvidya mananam akuto bhayam, icchatam akuto bhayam’, those who wish to become fearless, ‘harer namanu kirtanam’ there is some verse like that in the 2nd canto. You want to become fearless, all the sages have come to conclusion, you should chant “Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare” this was conclusion 5000 years ago.

“etan nirvidyamananam icchatam akuto bhayam
yoginam nrpa nirnitam harer namanukirtanam” (S.B 2.1.11)

Sukadeva Goswami says all the sages after lot of thinking and thinking and churning, they have come to conclusion, ‘nirmitam yoginam nrpa’, O! King all the yogis have concluded, what is the conclusion? ‘harer namanukirtanam’ 5000 years ago Sukadeva Goswami said that and by doing so what happens? ‘akuto bhayam’, one becomes ‘yadi icchati’, if you are expecting, desiring fearlessness, those who wish to be fearless, anyone here wants to become fearless, interested in becoming fearless? Everyone! Everyone wants to be fearless. So the prescription here is in this age of Kali, you take shelter of the holy name. 5000 years ago it was declared by Sukadeva Goswami and he said ‘it’s not me, it’s not me, so many sages have said the same thing, I am just repeating the conclusion of the sages, thinkers’. This is the age of Kali, “harer nama harer nama harer namaiva kevalam”, so chant Hare Krsna and be happy, don’t be afraid anymore. “mam ekam saranam vraja, aham tvam sarva pabebyo moksayisyami ma sucah”, do not fear, do not fear, Lord has guaranteed, so surrender unto Me. So in this age of Kali, Lord also appears, “kali kale nama rupe krsna avatara”. Lord takes His avatara in the form of Harinaam. Harinaam is avatara, Harinaam prabhu, ‘namasraya kori jatane tumi thakaha apana kaje’ and taking shelter of the holy name.
On the battlefield of Kurukshetra, Krsna said, surrender unto Me and in the age of Kali there is surrendering unto the holy name of the Lord, ‘namasraya kori’ take the ‘asraya’ shelter of the holy name. So is this contradictor or there is some connection between Krsna speaking on the battlefield? And asking of surrender unto Me, surrender unto Me and you are also supposed to be surrendering unto the holy name. So is that Krsna and the holy name, are they two different things, two different Personalities? Same! ‘abhinatva nama namino’ ‘abhina’ not different. That Lord Sri Krsna who appeared 5000 years ago, spoke Bhagavad Gita has now appeared as the holy name.
So we hear we hear we hear the sound ‘sabdh, sabdh brahma’ and from the sound, our philosophy from sound comes the form. From sound comes the form, so from Hare Krsna Hare Krsna sound comes the form or again comes or not comes, sound is the form. It is a little spiritual technology here, sound is the form and this Hare Krsna is the Lord. Or as we chant chant chant but not only chant, what else we have to do? Hear and hear and hear. What happens if it is done properly? ‘sravanam kirtanam smaranam’ and then more things. You could do ‘smarana’ remembrance, remembrance of what? remembrance of the form of the Lord, remembrance of the qualities of the Lord, the pastimes of the Lord, abode of the Lord; all that we are reminded of as we chant the holy name of the Lord. As so the process is supposed to be very easy and very sweet and all that, so we get this darshan.

Narada Muni in fact, he wanted to take darshan of Brahma at the beginning of the age of Kali and after he had darshan. Narada Muni had darshan of Brahma and Narada Muni inquired, ‘now, now this is a new age, what is the process for this age?’ O! Chant the Holy name, chanting the Holy name, Harinaam. ‘could you be more specific? There are so many names, there also Visnu Sahasranaam, thousand names, could you say which name?’ and Brahma gave darshan. He gave Tattva darshan, he made this point; Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.

“iti sodasakam namnam kali kalmasa nasanam,
natah parataro payah sarva vedesu drisyate” (2nd verse Kali Santarana Upanisad)

This is Brahma speaking from the sky, ‘you know dear disciple, dear child’ Narada Muni is son of Brahma, Narada Muni is disciple of Brahma so he is addressing, “my dear child, my dear disciple, I want to tell you that in this age of Kali, this Hare Krsna mahamantra, ‘iti sodasakam namnam kali kalmasa nasanam, kali kalmasa nasanam’, all the flaws, all the faults are destroyed, ‘kali kalmasa, natahparataro, sarva vedesu’ I am the knower of the Vedas” Brahma says, You know I am not just any Tom Dick and Harry as they say, I am somebody, who am I? “Tene brahma hrda adi-kavaye” I am the adi kavi, I am the first one to hear the Vedas. There was a time there was just Lord and myself, only two of us in the entire universe. Only two persons and that time. Lord spoke to me, He revealed all the knowledge of the Vedas, essence of the Vedas was revealed unto me and that person is talking to you, you understand? And this is what I have to say, the knower of the Vedas. This is what I have to say that ‘natah parataro’, ‘paratara’ means better, upaya- solution, ‘sarva vedesu’ in all the Vedas, ‘drisyate’ as far as I could see, I could understand, there is nothing but the chanting of the holy name and he specified which name to be chanted, Hare krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.

So let us all chant, take the shelter of the holy name and be happy and be fearless. We just have to do this chanting properly, if we just do this chanting properly. The goal is darshan of the Lord, Goal is darshan of the Lord, the goal is to have audience of the Lord, the goal is as once Srila Prabhupada said or wrote that the goal is to join the dancing party of Radha and Krsna. So try to achieve that goal, the means is there to achieve the goal. You have a means and the right means; sadhan and sadhya, sadhya is joining dancing party and sadhan is ‘ harer namaiva kevalam’. So just do the sadhan properly, then don’t worry if you are on the right path, doing the right things, right mantra, right darshan, Tattva darshan, everything just right, right means then we will achieve the goal. If you are sitting on the right train (Laughter) and if you want to go to Chennai but you sitting in train going to Kolkatta, will you go to Chennai? Did you understand? So if you are sitting on the right train, right mudra, right everything is right, the means is right then the goal is achieved.

The chanting of Hare Krishna has to be done attentively. You hear about that? How should the chanting be? Attentive chanting, attentive chanting, attention. Not being attentive, so after 10 offences we say, those who wish to achieve the goal of this human form of life, which is? Krsna prema, goal is Krsna prema. Those who wish to achieve that goal, what do they have to do? Chant attentively; hear the holy name attentively avoiding all the offences against the holy name. And Bhaktivinoda Thakura says that we continue to commit 10 offences if our hearing is inattentive. If we are not chanting with full attention, then you are bound to commit offences. So this is the most serious offence. Avoiding this, avoiding that but attentive chanting is not done, attentive chanting does not happen then we’ll continue the breeding round, the inattentive chanting becomes the breeding ground for the offences.Well this is not the time for Japa Reform Seminar or Japa Retreat; you should attend around the world, now devotees are going through this Japa Retreats, Japa reforms seminars.

So attentive chanting, ‘ Harinaam Chintamani’ by Bhaktivinoda Thakura, there comes the topic of discussion, Inattentive chanting. I won’t give the whole seminar but there is one thing that I will, I will like to share which I have learnt from one of the seminar or that while we are chanting our japa, “Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare”. In order to have our chanting with full attention or attentive chanting, something else is on our mind, in our thought has to be got rid of or drive away, stop that so that we could end up hearing. We chant, that happens very very well uttering the name, then it just bounces off our mind. You throw the ball and then the ball does not go in or stick to the wall, what happen, the ball just bounces back, the ball. So lot of times that happens, we chant “Hare Krsna Hare Krsna” but it just bounces back because we are not free to hear, we are busy.

Another thing came as soon as I said busy, This is when I was a new devotee myself and in old temple, this is very small temple now, our President Giriraj dasa brahmacari, that time Maharaj he was brahmacari, he was chanting and some big life member had come to see him and I found out that someone wanted to meet Giriraj prabhu that time our President, so I went. He was chanting in the temple and I mentioned to him that such and such life member want to see you and his response was, ‘tell him that I am busy’. And my thought was what! You are not busy (Laughter), you are just sitting and only chanting, you are not busy!(Laughter). This was my mind talking inside; I didn’t speak out (Laughter). I didn’t dare to speak to my President like that, you are not busy. That I was thinking, you are not busy, what excuse just because you don’t want to see that person, you are coming up with the excuse you are busy.

But much later, I didn’t know when, took quite some time for me to realize that this chanting is supposed to be a business not in a mundane sense business. It is a serious thing, you are preoccupied, you are busy with something, you are busy with chanting and of course we say, chanting is a time when you have appointment with the Lord. Chanting is a time when your appointment is with who? With Krishna, your appointment is with the Lord. So that you meeting Him, having some dialogues with Him, isn’t that a business, a serious thing?

So anyways, we have to realize this chanting of Hare krsna is, is serious thing and we should be only chanting while chanting and we do also. We don’t do lots of things during chanting and we sit and chant and even if we are doing that, we still may not be, we still may be busy inside. We are not talking with others, not on mobile, not doing this that, not busy in that sense but even sitting and chanting but still we are too busy, too busy to hear the holy name. We have no time, we are busy. Japa mala is making rounds, one round, two rounds or mind is making rounds around the world million dollars, go round around the world, around the home or around the man, around the woman, around around the car or mind is making rounds of the car, doing pradakshana of the car that we have just purchased this or that or…And we are just not free.

Let chanting go on, round is going on just outside but it is not entering us. It is not touching our souls or soul is not hearing, ‘jiv jago’ the soul has to wake up, soul has to hear. But there is something else between the chanting which is the holy name, which is the Lord. Hare Krsna is the Lord and the soul is the recipient of that mercy, the target of the chanting is, the chanting should reach the soul but then what happens? In the middle there is the mind like the stumbling block.

‘mana eva manusyanam karanam bandha moksayoh’

Mind could become the cause of bandhan or moksa, this is the verdict of the sastra. The mind could become the cause of bondage or liberation. So what is, where is the mind, what is the mind doing during chanting. This mind is also part of the process of hearing and chanting or mind is having some wanderings and thoughts, some kalpa vikalpa and accepts this and rejects that.

So anyways, here is what I had heard during, Mahanidhi Maharaj in fact in his seminar, he was talking that when we go to shopping mall or some shopping center. Usually, there is music, they play music and it is called ‘mood music’, mood music to get into the mood, mood music. So that is in the background the music is on and lots of people are talking, buying, shopping and they are also hearing that music and getting into the mood of what they, they have to do their shopping there. So he was pointing that two things are happening simultaneously. The mood music is going on and something else is also going on. So while we are chanting, the mind’s mood music is on and it just doesn’t allow you to hear this music of the chanting music “Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare”.

It just doesn’t penetrate, this does not go in there and that music goes on and on and on. So chanting and hearing that chanting and then remembrance and the whole guidelines what thoughts you should have during chanting the holy names. So attentive chanting, attentively hearing the Holy name, each word, each mantra. Our other Japa Reform Party or person says, hear the whole mantra, one mantra at a time. Bhurijana prabhu talks, hear the mantra from beginning to end, the 16 words make sure you are chanting 16 words first of all. Make sure your mantra is not 14 word mantra or 12 word mantra or not just snik snik Hare Hare. Prabhupada says snik nik Hare Hare snik snik Hare Hare. That’s all you hear snik snik Hare Hare snik snik Hare Hare. So then you go to some snik loka (Laughter).

So be fully alert, opening of the mouth and tongue vibrating, ears are hearing, get out all the stumbling blocks, clear the mind, get all the thoughts out, ‘yato yato niscalati, tatah tatah’ (B.G 6.26) wherever the mind goes, from there you drag the mind and fix that on the holy name wherever it goes. Don’t follow the mind, drag it back. When it is going to Krishna, don’t stop, don’t drag it back but elsewhere it is going, bring it back. So chanting is not the time that you are just sitting around, within the time our body, our mind, our intelligence,our soul, everything absorbed everything busy. ‘sumedasah’ this process of chanting will be glorified or the Lord will be glorified in the form of His holy names, which kind of people will glorify or worship the Lord in the form of His holy name? ‘sumedasah’- intelligent. So sharp intelligence being very alert, keeping watch on the movements of the mind.

Ok I’ll stop here. So just some homework for you, all of us.
Grantharaj Srimad Bhagavatam ki jai!!

S.B
2.5.34

“varsa-puga-sahasrante
tad andam udake sayam kala-karma- svabhava –stho jivo jivam ajivayat”

Translation
and purport by Srila Prabhupada, Srila
Prabhupada ki ……………jai

TRANSLATION-
Thus all the universes remained thousands of eons within the water [the Causal
Ocean], and the Lord of living beings, entering in each of them, caused them to
be fully animated.

PURPORT- The Lord is described
here as the jiva because He is the
leader of all other jivas (living entities). In the Vedas He is described as
the nitya, the leader of all other nityas. The Lord’s relation with the
living entities is like that of the father with the sons. The sons and the
father are qualitatively equal, but the father is never the son, nor is the son
ever the father who begets. So, as described above, the Lord as Garbhodakasayi Vis?n?u or
Hiran?yagarbha Supersoul enters into each and every universe and causes it to
be animated by begetting the living entities within the womb of the material
nature, as confirmed in the Bhagavad-gita (14.3). After each annihilation of
the material creation, all the living entities are merged within the body of
the Lord, and after creation they are again impregnated within the material energy.
In material existence, therefore, the material energy is seemingly the mother
of the living entities, and the Lord is the father. When, however, the
animation takes place, the living entities revive their own natural activities
under the spell of time and energy, and thus the varieties of living beings are
manifested. The Lord, therefore, is ultimately the cause of all animation in
the material world.

“varsa-puga-sahasrante
tad andam udake sayam kala-karma- svabhava –stho jivo jivam ajivayat”

The
animations are very popular these days and that’s considered to be very
advanced or very intelligent thing to do. Animation in television they get
different dolls to fight with each other, they seem to be talking or running
after each other. The Disney world you know in America the most famous
animation are by Disney world in North America. So we are parts and parcels of
the Lord and like father – like son, the ability of the Lord is also in us in
minute quantity and this is little minute animation that we become the cause of
or off course we create little children, Lord has created all of us and we
create few children.

Lords
begets living entities within this womb of material nature “mama yonir mahad brahma” (B.G 14.3)
Lord makes “mahat tattva” that is
the womb and Lord glances, He glances upon that total Material energy mahat
tattva in front of  Him, He doesn’t even
have to touch it, just by looking at it He does the impregnation and how many
countless living entities they get animated as per kala-karma-svabhava, their karmas which they had committed during
previous creation and that bhava, their inclinations, their tendencies.

So
we create few living entities or we not create living entities they always
exist we gave bodies become cause of giving bodies to few children. But look at
the Lord how much He could create “tasmin
garbham dadhamyaham sambhavah sarva bhutanam tato bhavati bharata” (B.G
14.3). He becomes the cause of sarva
bhutanam of all the living entities and giving them bodies also first of
all they are His parts and parcel. So when it’s difficult to trace the history
when the living entities were created “mama
amsa” from purna- some amsa, some parts and parcel were created we don’t
difficult to find out. So that creation of living entities then later on giving
them bodies also to sarva bhutanam- all the living entities.

I
(maharaja saying) never heard this creation as lila- srusti lila, Devananda
prabhu was explaining different incarnations have different lilas  or even there is lila, I never for first time
I was thinking this is also lila of the Lord, creation is also lila – srusuti
lila and the 3 purusa avataras put together are performing this lila. So what
we do little bit it’s not described as lila we also have little creations few
children ok, big house ok or housing colony that’s kind of creation, big bridge
we built, little space Apollo 8 or Apollo 11. there are unlimited oceans, night
time we see so many planets floating like dust particles float in the air, they
we send little sputnik floating. So these are tiny creations of tiny living
entities, so they are not described as lilas. but when Lord performs herculean
tasks –big big tasks, creation of the universes not just one but unlimited
universes and then within each universe so many planets and so much variety and
you just, Jai Sri Sri Guar Nitai
ki…………………….jai.

For
a tiny living entity as we are from where we are sitting or where ever we are
existing from there you take a look at the universe that so many universes and
beyond that is another kingdom – the spiritual kingdom. And how much living
entities tiny and the tiny living entities brain is further tiny brain Prabhupada used to call tini brain, he
would describe so that tiny brain how much that could understand. What we know
is very very little there is a planet – there is a space- so many planets in
that space – the ocean- whole world out there or in there in the ocean. So many
varieties of entities in there of the total creation of the Lord all that exist
how much does living entities know? How much does living entities know? Just a
fraction who was that? It was Einstein – he said the knowledge meaning- you
admit how much ignorant you are, if you could admit that I am so much ignorant
means you are kind of knowledgeable. But one who thinks oh! I know everything
that is how the ignorance is described I who thinks I know everything that
means you are ignorant, but if you admit yes yes I am ignorant infact I don’t
know so many things, O! He is knowledgeable at least he knows that he doesn’t know.
So this scientist Ensitein he was admitting “you go to the beach and take one
sand particle from that beach Juhu beach, Prabhupada used to walk and then you
admit that my knowledge is this one particle that now I am holding within my
pinch just one particle may be that much or even less than that I know compared
to the number of the sand particles are there on this beach or there are so
many beaches also.

So
how much could living entity know? Not much so when Lord He performs His lila
of srusti lila the creation then it is just mind boggling, it’s just “acintya” just beyond the grasp the
capability of living entity to know it. But in order to make living entity knowledgable
or at least know as much as living entity could to the extend they could know here
in this section of Srimad Bhagvatam the creation has been described not just
the theory of creation the facts of creation have been described. I was
thinking how Narada Muni he has gone to the authority in the creation next to
the Lord or Lords right hand man, Lord is cause of all causes that’s the
chapter here we are dealing Lord is
cause of all causes sarva karana karnam.

So
the popular fact is that Brahma is the creator but even Brahma had to be first
created by the Lord before He creates more things. So Lord is cause of all
causes, cause of Brahma, who is kind of secondary cause of the creation. Lord
is first sarga then visarga, we were hearing and understanding yesterdays
lecture also. So Brahma is certainly has a big role if anyone has role to play
besides the Lord that is Brahma, he has a big big role to play in creation of
the Lord or creation of Brahmanda. So what Narada Muni is doing he is going all
the way to the top person, the top authority in this creation who is
responsible for creation, he goes there ok Brahmaji give us some – it’s like a
interview, we heard of those 10 questions yesterday which are at the beginning
of this chapter “yad rupam yad
adhisthanam” and total number of 10 questions were raised.

So
Narada Muni who also has inferior position he is going to the superior
authority he is going to his father, Narada Muni is son, Brahma is the father.
O! Father, father daddy daddy could you please tell me explain to me be kind
upon me. So these things human being should know or they should know these
things even as Lila of the Lord, creation is Lila of the Lord and O! my dear
father Brahma ji and he is asking all these questions all possible questions
that human being could possibly would want to know about the creation. Those
questions have been raised by Narada Muni probably he sat in Badrikasrama some
point and he I was making a list or these questions probably people from Delhi
would ask, these questions from New York, people from here there would ask and
he made a list and Badrikasrama because that is his headquarter, Narada Muni,s
head quarter is Badrikasrama, Badri-Narayana he worships in Bharatavarsa. “Narayana Narayana Narayana” when you
see Narada Muni you remember Narayana or he reminds everybody of Narayana, he
gives out Narayana, so Badrikasrama is his place.

So
he made a list and he is approaching Brahma “could you please tell us about
this creation? This, this ………different
10 questions”. And what we are hearing these days in the Bhagvatam class
including today’s verse is a reply, is a response to Narada Muni,s questions.
The person who is asking questions who has made the list of questions is a top
notch authority himself, pure and he is the representative of all the people.
Or he has to go around and O! What if somebody ask me about the creation, you
know I go everywhere I better know I better equip myself with answer to these
questions otherwise it could be very embarrassing position as those yamadutas
were embarrassed. Prabhupada writes if you are representing someone before you
out to represent you better be knowledgeable about the representation.

So
Narada Muni he is a world preacher and he is going to the top most authority
and wants to know all the things about creation. And the answers given are
nothing but the truth if anybody knows about the creation of course Lord knows
and there is and there is another person who knows and that is Brahma because
he is directly involved with the creation. So that person had been interviewed
by Narada Muni and these are facts “facts are facts” it is the truth for all
the time to come. Brahma and Narada Muni they wanted to go on record and that
record is here this Srimad Bhagvatam several chapters many many chapters
dealing with creation “sarga, visarga” very in-depth mystical also and so many
great details and very interesting details about the creation of the Lord.

So
this is it if anyone, anywhere, at any time is interested in knowing about the
creation of the Lord, creation which is out there, this is the place, this is
the source you go into Bhagvatam and vedic text, Upanisadas, Puranas, essence
of all that is here in Amala-Purana –
Srimad Bhagvatam Purana and you hear this you read this and you become
knowledgeable about the creation of the Lord. The creator mentioned here is
jiva “jivo jivam ajivayat” flows very nicely sounds very nice “jivo jivam
ajivayat” one jiva, jiva also means life, o! This is nirjiva they say- this
does not have jiva – this does not have life. So the first person Prabhupada
describing that person as leader of the all the living entities, but  he is also jiva because  he is full of life in fact life comes from
life which Prabhupada made that bold statement “life come from life” so that is
right here jivo. In the beginning there was jiva the supreme living entity and
he is cause of all causes from that jiva that life rest of the life has come in
to existence.

“hiranyagarhba antaryami” that jiva has
been described as “hiranyagarhba, “hiranyagarhba” that is Garbhadakshai Vishnu
that jiva has been also described as antaryami, antaryami Krishna the Lord in
the heart or supersoul “samsara
vyatirikta parmeswara”. Jiva is samsara vyatirikta – means someone whose is
beyond this samsara – this material existence this jiva doesn’t come from, it’s
not product of this samsara “samsara vyatirikta” and He is a Parmeswara, living
entity is also samsara vyatirikta beyond this material existence but He is not
only “samsara vyatirikta but he is “samsara vyatirikta parmeswara” He is
Supreme Personality of Godhead and He is creator. He creates brahmanda anda –
egg shape – brahmanda “mama yonir mahad brahma”.

So
brahmanda is the universe and He is also creator of panda another word has been
used for the living entity. Brahamanda is universe and the anda, one is anda
one is panda, anda – brahmanda its the material universe and pinda – each one
of us is pinda like we say “pinde pinde
matir bhinna” or “munde munde matir
bhinna” matti means intelligence, Devakinandan prabhu was also throwing
light on how each one is different, our thoughts are different everything is
different you could see he gave a class and I am also giving a class he said if
one of us could give class we would be talking but differently this is also
amazing creation of the Lord, no two persons look alike there are 100 of you
are sitting and each different looking except who? Jananivas and Pankajangri
even after 30 yrs I can’t figure it out, I have to take few minutes to understand
whom I am talking to (laughter) whom I am talking to is this Pankajangri or is
this Jananivas I think one has bigger sikha and one has smaller sikha, there is
some difference, difference is there but very subtle.

So
isn’t that amazing and sometimes we also hear its true from the beginning of
creation till now all the bodies created by the Lord, not two bodies are alike
not that the present batch each one different but previous batch and the
previous batch each batch no 2 bodies were created just alike there is at least
some slight difference, little scar something different and this is something
amazing that we could just sit and appreciate and become Krishna conscious.
If  we could just sit and be amazed instead
of going to Agra to see the wonder 8th wonder of the world, you could just sit
in Vrndavan and hear about the creation of the Lord and be amazed such a
wonderful Lord He is no that Krishna is wonderful Krishna, His pastimes are
wonderful, this chapter Prabhupada has given title as wonderful Krishna but he
is wonderful Maha Vishnu, wonderful Garbhodakasayi Vishnu, wonderful
Ksirodakasay  Vishnu, we don’t have to
only appreciate rasa dance and talk about the rasa dance, how amazing! And
appreciate but here this this srusti lila is such a amazing thing, you could
relish if you could go deeper and understand step by step the creation of the
Lord and the subtleties and the details and the flavor it’s just amazing thing
what Lord does, amazing, wonderful creation of the Lord.

The
Brahmanda that anda and this panda and all that is in anda is all in this
panda, all that is out there also in this body in minute quantity different
elements which are out there pruthavi, teja , vayu, akash “bhumir aponala vayuh kham” (B.G 7.4) out there in here also of the whole,
you want to sample just sample your body and analyze your body and by knowing
panda you could know lot about the anda whole brahmanda. So what attracted my
attention was also Prabhupada writes in the purport of the 2nd verse of the
same chapter and this is Srila
Prabhupada ki…….jai “contrary to
such mental speculative theories of creation however Narada Muni wanted to know
all the facts of creation in truth not by theories”.

So
many theories must be floating at the time Narada Muni also and big bang theory
and many other theories are there and Narada Muni just wanted to just smash
those or expose those or establish the fact not just go by theories but he
wanted to establish the truth about the creation. So Srila Prabhupada being a
representative of all the previous acharaya Brahma and Narada Muni, he is
really trying to attract the attention of the whole world. Are you interested
in knowing how the world was created? If
you say yes here Bhagvatam is the way. You may be studying theories which
is full of mental speculation but the facts are these, this was spoken by the
person who was involved with the creation right there and then. Millions of
years ago when the creation took place this person Brahma he was right there
not just witnessing but he was involved making his hands dirty. I have not
studied Bible in detail but what we hear from our devotees who are from
Christian background is the description of the creation of this world of course
the great thing is which we appreciate that they admit that this world was
created by the Lord that’s good thing first of all, this world was created by
the Lord not much detail and He took some 6 days to create and by that time He
was exhausted and then on the 7th day He took rest and that was Sunday and
following in the footsteps of God we took rest on the 7th day we are also of
course we are fighting for more rest. So besides Sunday now we have Saturday or
half day we want to work less and get more pay.

Or
in the beginning there was ad “sabda”
this is the part of the creation described, form sabda there was a sparsa,
rupa, rasa, gandha like that each of these 5 elements earth, water, fire , air
, ether, ether- has only sound, ether is more subtle creation or element and it
has only sound and the next only has sound and touch and like that you go to
the next one there are 3 things, 3 sense objects, 4th one has like that
………  So whatever is written in Bible is
also true giving credit to God His creation of course it’s His creation He
existed before the creation He was there at the time off creation, He created
it. But the only trouble is how much could you relish what is written in bible
that is also lila but described in such a summarized way that you could not
really relish and for the fact can’t
appreciate also unless you get into the details of the creation you
can’t appreciate it. So what is in the bible although truth but not much that
you could relish because so many missing links are there and some holes are
there and it doesn’t make sense sometime. So this is how a devotee is
explained. So this is what the Christians have to say or bible has to say. Then
very recently I came across statement from Quran about the creation. They kind
of agree with the description of creation which is described in the Bible the
Muslims agree with what is written in the bible only disagreement that they
have with the Christians or with the bible is they say O! come on you are
making God Alha kind of ordinary person, you are saying that He worked for 6
days to create then he was exhausted, he was tired com on God can’t be tired he
is never tired.

So
and then He created for 6 days, the 7th day he took rest they don’t agree with
this taking rest Lord taking rest doesn’t go together. And that’s the only
difference between what Christians and the Muslims have to say about the
creation of course both the parties fully agree that Lord has created this
world. But because what has been presented in bible and Quran is not a complete
and perfect and in great detail some place it doesn’t make sense and that has
given rise to the speculations of the scientist. The scientist or intelligent
being, intellectuals they always want to keep brain busy and active and so
exercise as other do exercise of the muscle or intelligent people the
intellectuals their power is in the brain muscle and they want to keep them fit
and active. So they were referring to this bible, Quran theories and that was
not convincing and then some intelligent theory had to be presented to the
world so they came with what is popularly known as big bang what is the theory?
Big bang What was big? The bang was big, the sound that explosion made they
kind of talk of some kind of mahat tattva or the mass of the matter was sitting
there, the matter was there and then nothing or suddenly or no prior cause or
notice or any person involved because there was no person according to them
before the creation just a big bang, big explosion took place and the whole
water scattered everywhere and came into a beautiful round shaped balls started
floating (laughs) but that’s not the experience when there is explosion, when
the terrorist came they also went to the twin tower – trade towers they exploded
those twin towers, some beautiful thing came out that you could take
photographs? O! What a beautiful creation or Americans got their karma.

In
Japan the most powerful bomb was exploded did some housing society, some
plants, some beautiful things came out of that explosion? So the experience
that we have of the explosion is that nothing beautiful, nothing wonderful,
nothing that could use comes into existence as a result of smaller big bang or
some explosion. So with this we reject, so behind every explosion there is a
person he is right there lighting the bomb may crude was y of lighting the bomb
with a candle may be that was being done some 50 yrs ago but now remote control
but still there is a remote, machine is there and person to push the button is
there. So no explosion is automatic unless some person is involved. So this is
how the big bang theory is down the drain. I also was thinking how because what
was available to the western world, the information or views or news of
creation from bible and Quran they did not satisfy the scientist or the
intellectuals and then they had to speculate and speculate and speculate to
their hearts content there was no one to stop them.

Generation
after generation they went on speculating and supporting this imaginary
theories big bang and some other theorizes and did this because the facts were
not available to them, the Bhagvatam theory was not made popular. Of course all
this big bang theory this is all in last 500 yrs or few thousand yrs there was
a time when this was the theory this was common knowledge. O! How was the world
created? Everyone knew you could stop any one on the street and ask them how
the world was created? And they would refer to conversation between Narada Muni
and Brahma or Maitre Muni and Vidura they knew because every student his
schooling began with the guru’s ashrama they all went to Gurus ashrama “brahmachari gurukule vasandanto gurur hitam”.
The perfect Narottamas, purified, through purified and honest persons as they
were they were only speaking truth and spreading the truth travelling
extensively where ever there was some black spot, some ignorance some were they
would go rush there with a torch light of knowledge and dispel the darkness by
discussing these topics of creation from Bhagvatam and some other Vedic
sources.

So
one time few thousand yrs ago in Sat-yuga, treta-yuga every single human being,
practically everyone knew how the world was created. So present theories are
just few hundred yrs old, concoctions and mental speculations which world is
buying because nothing substantial is being presented. But now the task has
begin with Srila Prabhupada entering the field of the whole world with the
original facts from Narada Muni and Brahma which are right there in the
Bhagavatam, which are being distributed far and wide. So this big bang theory
doesn’t have much future, not much longer into the future this big bang theory
would be accepted as something intelligent, like so many other theories are
being challenged, not only by Hare Krishnas but other intelligent being are
challenging theories one of such theory very popular theory is Darwin theory of
evolution being challenged all the time.

I
had read such report in the news paper before the challenges and the rejection
of the Darwins,s  theory of evolution but
something very recently a week ago, Darwin under attack by  U.S school board, American school boards are
attacking Darwin,s theory appeared in the front page in Sunday express on 2nd
if January and of course the whole news is from America printed as it is
(laughs) and God or Darwin report says God or Darwin choice is yours and this
U.S school board  they want to go for God
they want to reject this Darwin or at the most report says ok ok may be we
could accept this as a theory but not a fact may report also says, “I
definitely would prefer to believe that God created me” and I am not the or the
descendent of the apes, ape- the monkey, the Darwin is presenting that – the
most evolved being was apes-monkeys. Some 6 or 7 thousand yrs ago, the human
being from the monkey instead of using 4 feet he kind of stood up started
standing up gradually an d then his fore
limbs became his hands and his tail went inside from back and suddenly
he had hands, feet and tail, stood erect.

So
this all happened some 6 or 7 thousand yrs ago and then human beings first
edition, first version of the human beings were such uncivilized, uneducated
they were just  living in the caves -cave
men theory, the cave kings. And you know they used to fight a lot amongst each
other, men of one cave with men of another cave. They had no instrument they
just used rocks, throwing rocks at each other. The time of your battle field of
Kuruksetra where you describe amazing kind of weapons were used, the Mahabharat
war around that time, actually human beings had just now came into existence
and just even using rocks may be some sticks to beat each other and there were
no towns and cities and from that time the human being has further evolved and
he is becoming more and more intelligent and intelligent and more civilized
human being is the present version of human beings. So in brief in the
beginning was amoeba when the world was created in the beginning was amoeba not
Brahma (laughs) but amoeba.

So
that theory and there is little more into that and that’s theory of Darwin, Darwin’s
theory of evolution which was being taught in all the schools and colleges all
over the planet including in India unfortunately. I am sure even Mathura
university- vidyapitha is teaching the evolutionary theory of Darwin. Vaishnavs
never taught such theory Prabhpada would not even spit at such theories why
even spit and waste his spit at such garbage (laughter). He would just use his
boot to kick, he did not want to kick the face with is foot but with the boot
only. So one by one let us maintain staunch faith and some more patience and we
would relies that all those things which are presented as some kind of the
truth all over the world will be exposed and they would be proven wrong when
they know what is right and gradually there is a major change. I was talking
with Bhakti Swaropadamodhar Maharaj on phone just few days ago he conducted his
world conference- scientific conference in Rome in Italy just few days ago to
celebrate Prabhupada,s 108 birthday anniversary and he said there were so many
scientists but 32 of them he has a list of 32 scientist talking in favor of God
or Gods existence. There was a time, scientist means prove it, can you show me
God? If yes then I accept but now the same scientists are coming to the senses
gradually, gradually there is a global revolution in consciousness and

certainly the chanting of “Hare Krishna
Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare”
and study of scriptures the air is getting filled with the truth which is
defeating the myth and with that that
truth is inspiring so many individuals all over the planet now.

There
is a study first time, I was amazed to know, you would also be amazed first
time the research in consciousness being done.
Some scientists are doing research into consciousness you go beyond it’s
not just a matter something living, some consciousness they want to study the
consciousness though they may have different ideas what the consciousness is.
but at least they are coming to the conclusion that is world is not just dead
matter as darwin was also trying to prove- This is a bunch of chemical and
interaction of these chemicals life comes into existence. No, this verse is
talking that original jiva that samsara vyatirikta parmeshwara the Supreme
Personality of Godhead who was full of life He put life into everything else
around into living entities and got them into going, working as per their karma
and svabhava and ajivayat He becomes the cause of giving life to others, life
comes from life.

So life is being studied as consciousness for
the first time, this is happening of course you know Prbahupada in easy journey
to other planets  Prabhupada writes the
scientist are coming to the conclusion if there is a matter O! Possibly there
must be antimatter also, there is material there must be something ant material
also. What is antimaterial? There is a sprit, matter is matter then anti matter
is sprit. So some scientist are waking up to the reality it is good fortune and
good fortune of so many others because in this day and age the scientist have
become the Gurus of the masses, the Gurus or acharyas position has been taken
by the scientist. The scientist says something everyone Prabhupada says double
standard, sadhus is talking the acaryas is talking  you are challenging show me prove it but when
scientist say something lot of things which are not proven people don’t ask
those questions any more O! Could you prove it, their speculations they are
just blindly accepting it. And Prabhupada says double standard you are asking
us to show me, you are not asking the similar question to the scientist to
prove it.

So
it is very important for this spread of Hare Krishna movement over the planet
the scientist are a big stumbling block because they are taken as authority.
They have presented so many bogus
theories they dnt know to begin with thathey are souls or anybody is a
soul and to become scientist you dnt have to be man of any kind of
character….no, you could be women hunter, you could be meat eater, you could be
speculator and what else? What did I miss? Drunkard you could have a wine
bottle in one hand and you are punching the keys you are typing on the screen
its fine, its fine they can be Murderers, they may be terrorist could be
anything, no questions raised only their theories are accepted because with
those theories you get to exploit this material world and that is when you
could be ‘ishwaro-aham”, That you could declare but practically be that Ishwar-
the controlees, the enjoyer. So it’s a good team scientist are making the job
easy, facilatiinng this demonic nature and giving them how to be the enjoyer,
the ishwaro – aham. So from ishwaro-aham status that human being want to
achieve they want kingdom of God without God. Srila Prabhupada ki…jai wonderful
Prabhupada has made he was the first one to speak this kind of language, most
relevant statement Prabhupada has made. So from that position that human beings
are taking ishwaro-aham we have to bring them down to “daso- aham” “dasosmi”
not “boss-asmi”. So theories and scientist they are exploiting and people are
getting distracted and as a result infact there are suffering. They want to
enjoy but there are sufferings. So last lecture series Prabhupada gave on the
planet in Mumbai was the present day modern civilization is a total failure
only alternative is Krishna Consciousness this was his topic from Mayapur he
went straight to Mumbai and everyday he was roaring like a lion although we had
to lift him literally we had to lift him and put him on Vyas ashan but once he
was on the microphone he was getting the audience trembling. He was very bold
and out spoken and this civilization is total failure, only solution is Krishna
Consciousness. So, so many myths are being spread but Prabhupada books are
everywhere do you know that, I am sure another
places also this holds true that Delhi distributed 86 thousand Bhagvad –
Gitas in Marathon (round of applause). Devotees   of Delhi, Punjabi Bagh – 86, 000 Bhagvad-
gita and so like that it’s  just one city
score and wait till you hear about what Bombay did and other temples did to
distribute books and spread this knowledge. So this is Prabhupada,s program so
that the truth is established, the dharma “dharma sansthapanar thaya” and then
“sarve sukhina bhavantu” people would be happy and in real sense be prosperous
and that’s life that’s real life. So let us push on Prabhupads program,
Prabhupadas movement spreading the holy name and Bhagvatam knowledge based on
Bhagvatam this will spread the truth and whole world would be benefitted and
this is the topmost welfare work Prabhupada used to say.

Thank
you very much