Attitude of a Preacher

Hari bol!!

“Om Namo Bhagvate Vasudevaya”

So today is very last, this is very last day of the whole session (laughter) time for celebration, finally. You’re happy that you have learned a lot or happy that you’ve finished? Studies never finish I was talking the other day it’s a long life long process, ever learning remain students for rest of your life, keep learning. What is the topic? Surrender. What is the big topic? What is the subject that you study? Or we all study? What is the subject or object of our knowledge? Krishna.

So much to know, every time you know you become joyful properly situated ‘Sthitosmi gata sandeh’ (B.G 18.73) this goes on every day, every day you know more sthitosmi, sthitah-asmi properly situated more properly situated grounded, otherwise ‘kamala-dala-jala jivana talamala’ (Laughter) can’t settle may be tilting, collapsing, sinking, terminating but with the knowledge hearing which is bhakti yoga a person is svarupena, finally ‘sva-rupena vyavasthitih’. Svarup, sva- our, own rupa our own form in relationship with the Lord not that we separately situate ourselves. We situate ourselves at the lotus feet of the Lord. ‘dhuli-sadrisham vichintaya-sthitah, tava pada-pankaja-sthita’ sthiosmi-situated where? At the lotus feet. And acting not just sitting situated sitting acting kayena- acting with the body, manasa-with the mind, budhya-with the intelligence. kevalya indriyerapi- even all the senses are active engaged employed in the service of the Lord. “Yoginah karma kuruvanti” – yogi’s act this is how they become Bhakti yogis. One kind of Yogi’s they are jnani’s, so they attain only shanta-rasa, they are Jnani Bhaktas and they attain shanti, peace.

“The Gopis are never peaceful” (laughter).

Always running where is Krishna where is Krishna? When I am going to see Him? Where I am going to get flowers for Him on the banks of Kusum sarovar. When we meet Him? Is someone going to interrupt our meeting? Or is Madhumangal going to be coming? O! I got rid of Madhu, O! I got rid of Madhu.

You know that pastime at Premasarovar, Madhumangal comes with a stick for bumble bee that was disturbing Kishor-Kishori. He thought why is this bumble bee bothering the divine couple? So he came with a stick and droves it away. And while it was going away, O! I got rid of Madhu I got rid of Madhu. Then Radharani jumps into conclusion that he got rid of my Madhusudan. Finally we had met finally we had met and this rascal Madhumangal he got rid of my Madhusudan. She jumps to that conclusion and she is feeling all vacant without Madhusudan and She is into tears. Krishna was next to Her and He was like I am here I am here, He makes attempt, she was gone no external consciousness she was deep within. So He could not convince that He was next to Her. Seeing Radharani in that sorry state of existence Krishna, He was influenced He was overwhelmed and He was into tears seeing Radharani’s state of mind and the separation. And Radha’s tears and Krishna’s tears they were flowing down they were mixing and flowing and they were filling up a lake. Filling up a whole lake with tears of Radha and Krishna. So that lake is still there today in between Barsana and Nandgaon. That lake is called Prema sarovar. So the Gopis life is not that peaceful.

So Bhakti yogis are busy engaging their body, mind, intelligence, sense whatever else is in their possession. So ‘tvadiya vastu govinda tubhyam- eva samarpaye’, this is the attitude, we are talking of attitude or person in knowledge he comes to conclusion that ‘Tvadiya vastu Govinda’ Hey! Govind all these vastu all these things in my possession are yours. Hence what do I do? I offer them back to You. Engage them in your service. Oh! Then I become free become liberated. Otherwise it’s just big burden. Some people don’t mind that burden they go on increasing burden.

Srila Prabhupada once told humorous story of an old lady carrying a big bundle of stick. Wind coming blew away her bundle of sticks. Started telling ‘Please Please God wherever you are please appear here. When God appeared, ‘Yes lady what could I do for you? Please help. Don’t you see this bundle of stick this is mine I had collected them. Please help so God was helping kept the bundle on head, lady was in business and Bye!..(Laughter).
The Karmis or others may not offer everything to the Lord. They may need help just to increase their burden. Karma, karma is performed by karmis and Karmis are into furtive activities furtive results. So there is karma mishra and jnana mishra. The knowledgeable person as we heard this morning Kapil dev instructs his mother he performed devotional service, surrender everything unto the Lord it is His.

“Appropriate attitude of a preacher in reference to Nectar of Devotion”

Here is the attitude, the author of Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu, Srila Rupa Gosvami, very humbly submits that he is just trying to spread Krishna consciousness all over the world, although he humbly thinks himself unfit for this work. So we are Rupanugas, anuga means one who goes after Acharyas, go and then anu behind you go then you become Prabhupadanuga –Rupanuga- Acharyanuga.

So “sri-caitanya-mano-bhistam sthapitum yena bhtu-tale, svayam rupah kada mahyam dadati sva-padantikam”. So Rupa goswami and like him the other Acharyas they know ‘Sri Caitanya mano abhistam’- what is on the mind of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu they know. Caitanya Mahaprabhu was reciting very confidential verse at the time of rathayatra. It was in the mind of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and later on Caitanya Mahaprabhu found out the kutir of Rupa goswami He found a piece of paper maybe some leaf and that verse which He was thinking of was found He was surprise, how come, and who is it? Who read my mind? And there was none other than Rupa goswami. That time when Mahaprabhu had arrived at Rupa goswami’s kutir Rupa goswami was in the ocean taking his noon bath and as he returned, are you the one? Is this yours? So Rupa goswami had access to the mind of Caitanya Mahaprabhu- Sri Caitanya mano abhistam. Because Lord is cause of all causes including this one, Caitanya Mahaprabhu revealed this verse into the heart of Rupa Goswami.

So Acharyas they know the mind of the Lord, mission of the Lord they execute the mission. But they always humbly think that they are unfit to do this work. That should be the attitude of all preachers in Krishna conscious movement. That is all you all are preachers propagators of Krishna consciousness. Brahmins, learned brahmins and pandits what does pandit Brahmin do? Pathan-paathan. Pathan-paathan he studies and he teaches this is a primary function of brahmin. Adhyan-Adhyapan studying shastras keeping his life simple not complicating otherwise he will have to work. There is no time of studies, no time for sharing the knowledge. So he keeps his life simple bare minimum necessities. His thoughts are high; life is simple, simple living high thinking.

So what is high thinking? What is highest thought?

Krishna Conscious related thoughts, Krishna’s thoughts in Bhagvat Gita this is high thinking, Bhagvatam this is high thinking. So when those high thoughts are there then we could also one could also manage with simple living without high thinking simple living is not possible it’s difficult. Those who wish to be live simple simply not just simply living (laughter) simple living and simply living there is difference. So you should take note of what is high thinking. We keep on saying high thinking high thinking simple living high thinking, what is high thinking? Krishna consciousness. Think like God thinking like god, so our father is our Lord of course just little fraction of all that God things we could, we have limits we could only choose so much, store only so much thoughts accumulate, assimilate or capability capacity small same thought just some bits of those thoughts God’s thoughts. God’s thought thinking like God, Godly person who becomes godly doesn’t become god. He becomes godly because his thoughts are like God. They are good godly then they are good for that person who is thinking and others those who come into his contact those who listen to him whole welfare.

We should never think of ourselves as great preacher but should always consider that we are simply instrumental to the previous acharyas and simply by following in their footsteps we may be able to do something for benefit of suffering humanity, so that kind of attitude. We are never independent we are dependent or interdependent or independently thoughtful. Prabhupada said he would like to see his followers independently thoughtful. Srila Prabhupada that Markine Bhagvata and Srila Prabhupada is in Boston and when he saw people in Boston when he saw the rat race. Like a rat people are moving backwards and forwards. Srila Prabhupada is there with the Caption Pandey of the Jaladuta boats captain- ‘Swamiji come we’ll go for a little walk.’ This is the first time Srila Prabhupada has touched the land of America, land of opportunities they say. By seeing the mood of the people there and Prabhupada was like oh! These people are not even stopping. How do I preach? But Lord You have brought me here and my Guru maharaj has desired that I go to the west and preach Krishna Consciousness in English language. And Prabhupada started praying he gets on the boat. Now boat is going from Boston to New York. Srila Prabhupada is with pen and paper in boat and he is writing.

“nachao prabhu nachao nachao sei mate ami to kasteir putali” – I am just a puppet in your hand my dear Lord make me dance Oh ! Lord make me dance as you feel make me dance, let me talk or dance as you feel. My name is Bhaktivedanta now you have to prove, do something so that Bhakti and Vedanta, I am supposed to be equipped with Bhakti and Vedanta the conclusion of the Vedas are known to this person he is embodiment of bhakti. So you get something done through me use me. That’s the mood he is praying to his Guru maharaj, praying to Shri Krishna. And always giving credit to his Guru maharaj ‘MY GURU MAHARAJ MY GURU MAHARAJ’. I am sure you have heard Srila Prabhupadas lectures when he makes reference to his guru maharaj the way he says “my Guru Maharaj” with his heart. He is proud and heartful, mouthful my guru mahraj and that if there is anything miraculous you are seeing westerners have taken to Krishna consciousness this is mercy of My Guru Maharaj. I feel his presence always as if My Guru Maharaj is next to me and asking me to do this do that he is watching.

Oh! Why he is Bhavktivedanta Swami Maharaj he passes by Bhaktisiddhant sarasvati Samadhi whenever he comes to Kolkata to Mayapur he does not get out, he doesn’t pay respect to his guru maharaj samadhi some of god brothers. Srila Prabhupads god brothers making comment like this and finally these comments reaches Prabhupada and (bang on the table) what do they think my guru maharaj and he is always next to me. So whether every time he got out of the car and offered his obeisance’s not, he said always my guru maharaj is next to me. He is present he is guiding me I feel his presence.

“krsna se tomara, krsna dite paro, tomara sakati ache, ami to kangala, krsna krsna boli, dhai tava pache pache”. This is the mood of the preacher or a follower, he humbly submits that Krishna is with you, you have Krishna you have Krishna, and you are competent to give that Krishna to me hence I am running after you ‘dhai tava pache pache’. I am just pauper and have no good qualities I am just made up of your mercy. All these quotes our Acharyas have beautifully written sung in the poetry of Bhaktivinod, Narottam Das thakur. So simply by following in their footsteps we may to do something for the benefit of suffering humanity. So on our own we don’t do nothing much, we are we do on behalf of our previous acharyas, our spiritual master then we are empowered and we are able to accomplish something. That mood is not there then we are cut off then dry branch of the Caitanya tree (laughter). That branch may be still on the tree and acting in some way but it is all dry. Not only the branch should be part of the trunk of the tree all the juice going through it then leaves and the flowers and the fruits and then one offers that to others. Ok so just little glimpse of that mood, we were contemplating our attitude appropriate attitude of the preacher of Krishna Consciousness.

And then what happens today were you given some home work? Ok. Students reading assignment Bhagvat Gita chapter 18 verse is 56 all the way to the end of the chapter. And then it says identify and discuss the relevant significance verses mentioned in the Bhagvat Gita that section last chapter. This sections this group of verses. So you have studied all these verses? What does that mean you have memorized kanthastha? Learned by heart or Learned by throat? Yeah these are really wonderful verses. One should put oneself himself at the position of Arjun and listen hear Bhagvat Gita.

Bhagvat Gita is targeted towards each one of us.

Then Arjun is asking question they are like our question. We don’t even know how to ask or what question to be asked. Arjun is doing all that perfect questions perfect answers that is what this dialogue is Bhagvat Gita. World has heard or seen how many dialogue right now how many dialogue are going on in the world? 100? (Laughter) everywhere every nook and corner wherever you go. On the earth, in the ocean, on the trees, in the sky, in the heaven, in the hell. Talk on mobile has become cheaper now so people are just talking talk it up Chat, chatting talk is cheap talking has become cheap now. Because it cost less talk is becoming cheaper and cheaper there is no quality no substance of people no quality people are just talking not even thinking just talking. They use to say just do it now it’s just talk it. So these are all dialogues they are all conversations and then this world has experienced one extra ordinary dialogue“samvadam imam adbhutam” that wonderful, astounding, amazing, divine conversation and that is this Bhagvat Gita.

“gita sugita kartavya kim anyaih sastra-vistaraih” what is the need of any other conversation any other dialogue any other sastra this is “ekam sastram devaki-putra-gitam”- One sastra is enough, one scripture is enough Bhagvat Gita.

So the Lord had come He did come and if He had gone and returned to His own abode without giving Bhagavt Gita then what would we be doing? Lord will stay on His spiritual sky and we would stay here on and on and on… He wanted us to follow Him. Get out of here go back to Him and to do that He has left this message behind in the form of Bhagvat Gita, Haribol Haribol Haribol. Meaning what? Spirit soul. So anyone wants to make some comments? Observations? You found something significant got some realization which you would like to share with us?

(Devotee asking question about sikha and feeling sleepy in class) (Maharaj says) It might be boring my presentation; you should tie your Shikha to the fan there and put it on, fan on (Laughter). In good old days the gurukulies they use to have their shikhas tied. So you are not the first one and only one it’s a tradition. Ya ok, you want something which will wake you up? Once and for all when you think you have to when you stop thinking then. One mantra wakes you up in ISKCON they say ‘maha-prasade govinde’ you wake up ‘Om namo bhagavate’ (Laughter).

Yes Prabhu (another devotee asking question) well, lot of time you are given instruction to do this. Spiritual master they give general instructions and he gives some specific instruction do this or do padayatra or print books or distribute books or preach in English language. Yes do scientific preaching life comes from life and not matter prove this to the dull headed scientist otherwise kick on their face. So once you are given this assignment and you are in the field to accomplishing it and this is when the attitude that we just talked about you are not independent. Because this activity of preaching is not a mundane material activity mercy factor is there. And current has to flow from Krishna to whole disciplic succession to you then you are empowered. “krsna-sakti vina nahe tara pravartana” what is the other part? “kali-kalera dharma hari nama-sankirtana” dharma for this age of kali is nama sankirtan and to propagate this sankirtan movement “krsna-sakti vina nahe tara pravartana” Krishna is shakti.

By mercy of spiritual master we get that shakti we get intelligence whatever it takes to do it.

As soon as again we think we think we are the doers I am the doer I don’t need anybody I can do myself and pride and all that then whole flow of that energy, flow of empowerment is blocked then your mind becomes a bad conductor. Electricity when it flows there some wires and metals are good conductor it is said some are bad conductor they creates resistance something that is flowing and something else resists it protects it or blocks it from flowing or coming to you. When fan has regulator and regulator is on 5 so fan is? (Fuhhhh) fastest speed so what does that what is happening there? What regulator is doing? Least resistance so current is coming from power house and to those wires and to your house. So the regulator on 5 means allows current to flow whatever current is coming all supplied to that fan. If it is in the middle it is blocked only so much current is allowed to go to the fan and move the fan. If it is on 1 it’s more resistance more blockage only little leakage little flow is allowed and then fan moves also slow and then when it is on 0 complete blockage and no flow of current, fan is there everything is there whole setup is there but no movement because everything is blocked.

So this attitude of mind intelligence how that function what we think or what is our mood with that either we allow parampara to act through us or we block that whole energy or flow whole mercy whole intelligence and then your pride and your this. So our capacity to function one could accomplish so much we should not think I could do only so much but if you allow Krishna to work through us than unlimited. See how much Prabhupada accomplished so it wasn’t just 70 year old man who is penny less and friend less as he appears externally. But he was neither penny-less he had wealth of the holy name and he was not friend less he had best friend with him that is Krishna and the holy name. Just see how much was accomplished otherwise this is 70 year old man who doesn’t even leave home what to speak of going overseas and.. Hmm is that enough?

(Another question from a devotee) Start thinking and a simple life would be a byproduct which you just follow. If you keep thinking high think of Krishna your bodily concept would be nil or just to keep body and soul together kind of philosophy and if that’s not the case than all the lust, all the greed, all the anger of the world will take over and there is no end to how much you have to accumulate to fulfill the desires. So this Mr. Anger Prabhupada says- Mr. Lust and he has younger brother he said called anger. ‘kamat krodho bhijayate’ (BG 2.62) from kama comes from krodha so first there is kama- lust and then from lust comes anger.

So this world is very busy it is accumulating and there is no end to all that greed. One thing is a need, Mahatma Gandhi said need is ok so basic need you need some little shelter, few set of cloth, food to eat like that basic needs you have right to fulfill your needs. But when the greed is taken over there is no end to it. So they try to do this family planning they try to decrease the number of people on the planet or in the country. So they think that each one will have enough if less people X amount of wealth. People are less so each one gets little more share let’s cut down the population cut down. But that is not really the solution. Finally say there are only 2 people cutting down cutting down now only 2. What do those 2 people think? You will think 2 is too many, 2 person is too many there should be only 1 and that’s me. Because you know I have to share 50:50 he gets the half of the wealth of the country or the planet goes to him only half I get. This is not fare because the condition soul ‘ishvaro aham’ that’s the disease. I am the controller and he is competing he is competing with the Lord right? Unknowingly living entity is competing with the Lord. So as much Lord has, no I should have that much. I cannot be half Lord I want to be full Lord. So if this high thinking is not there, proper thinking is not there Krishna Conscious thinking teachings of Bhagvat Gita one has not learned then there is no end. You are high living lifestyle and death style even I will die in a style.

(Question by a devotee) what does he say there and what verse is He saying? ‘yathecchasi tatha kuru’ (B.G 18.63) Krishna is Krishna may be giving option but we don’t. I was just listening it’s said that the spiritual master is more merciful than Krishna in one sense that Krishna gives choice but spiritual master just do the right thing just do this. Not this or that it goes ill together the spiritual life and material life and sense gratification and sinful life goes ill together. We cannot have one foot in one boat and one foot in another boat. It is very awkward. So you have to take off the foot from the other boat and just be in a boat that is going back to home we are going back to home tin tin tin tin some devotees play guitar we are going back to home (Singing).
So that means they have to come on this boat. Yeah so I mean first we encourage them to practice this devotional service high thinking and then they will give up the lower nature lower thinking. So when those young American boys and girls the early followers they were coming there were no screening on the door only pure devotees come in everyone else out, everyone was welcome and everyone was encouraged to chant and dance and sit down little philosophy and Prabhupada was personally feeding them prasad cooked by him, offered by him even washing pots afterwards. Then at certain point he introduced 4 regulative principle and those who wish to follow will join our mission you have to follow regulative principle are you ready? And they were ready by that time. So that is all step by step approach brings them higher and higher and higher.

So we know what the goal is ‘bhaktya mam abhijanati yavan yas casmi tattvata?’ (B.G 18.55) to know tattvatah. Lord is stressing herein verse 55 ‘tato mam tattvato jnatva’ one who knows Me tattvatah is very important to know tattva, siddhanta, philosophy or things as they are, then that person will enter ‘visate tad-anantaram’. “sarva-karmany api sada kurvano mad-vyapasrayah mat-prasadad avapnoti sasvatam padam avyayam” (B.G 18.56). So then that person will attain final destination eternal destination that’s Lord’s abode. ‘cetasa sarva-karmani’ (B.G 18.57) so with all intelligence full Krishna Consciousness you render all services ‘sarva-karmani sannyasya’, sannyasya giving up whatever is false.

‘buddhi-yogam upasritya mac-cittah satatam bhava” (B.G 18.57)

‘mac-cittah’ means Krishna consciousness in your chetana there is Krishna mac-cittah. I am in your consciousness you become like that 24 hours a day Prabhupada is translating ‘mac-cittah sarva-durgani mat-prasadat tarisyasi’(B.G 18.58) . So by Lord’s grace ‘mat-prasadat sarva-durgani’ durga, ga means going and du means dushkar very difficult to go or cross over transcend. So ‘mat-prasadat’–by my mercy you will be able to overcome. ‘atha cet tvam ahankaran na srosyasi vinanksyasi’ but you don’t listen to me because of your pride this is like towards the end, Krishna has been talking for past 40 minutes few more minutes to go before He would conclude His conversation then He says because of false ego if you don’t listen to Me then you will be lost.
‘yad ahankaram asritya na yotsya iti manyase’(B.G 18.59) I will not fight because if your false pride if you would take that stand I will not fight then by my nature you will have to be engaged in warfare and whole purport and nice things explained. Everyone has a propensity he is a kshatriya so fighting is natural for him. So if he doesn’t fight for Krishna doesn’t use his propensity for Krishna then he will use it for something else he will kill some sparrows some birds. It is in the blood in the system if he doesn’t do for Krishna then ‘isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese arjuna tisthati’ (B.G 18.61) very nice verse “bhramayan sarva-bhutani yantrarudhani mayaya” isvarah although isvarah parmeshwar Himself is talking so Krishna is talking as if you know He is Isvarah. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam, isvarah stays in the heart of all the living entity. He doesn’t say I reside elsewhere off course He had said that ‘aham sarvasya prabhavo mattah sarvam pravartate’.

“aham isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese”- desh also means country isvarah stays in a country called heart ‘hrd-dese’ this is a desh there is a one nationality one country called hridaya heart and isvarah, isvara resides there. Sarva-bhutanam and only yantra mentioned by Lord in Bhagvat Gita is body is yantra and soul is riding on that yantra and yantra is made up of maya and wandering around and isvarah is also next to him.

‘tam eva saranam gaccha’ tam-eva who is tam? to that ‘isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese arjuna’, tam unto that Lord or ‘tam eva saranam gaccha’ gaccha- go because he is scared of me (laughter) Kamsa says because he is scared he is gone into cave in the heart of living entity he is hiding and Shiva is in cremation ground and Bramha is this he is talking about and his followers are doing all this flattery, o! you are such a hero and we are with you. You don’t have to worry about this Vishnu don’t worry about this. Ya, so even they knew where the Lord is residing.

‘tat-prasadat param santim sthanam prapsyasi sasvatam’ (B.G 18.62) So shanti sthanam the abode of peace is Lord is achieved as one surrenders unto Him. Now He says I am going to tell you ‘guhyad guhya-taram maya’ I have explained confidential or even more confidential knowledge unto you. You should contemplate ‘vimrsyaitad asesena’ take your time deliberate upon all that I have said to you and then ‘yathecchasi tatha kuru’. Yes I know you have minute independence I am not going to force you, you have independence so fight -not fight it is up to you. That minute independence so Lord is giving there’s a scope to exercise that.

‘man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru’ (B.G 18.65) now this is called guhyatamam this statement ‘sarva-guhyatamam bhuyah srnu me paramam vacah’ (18.64) Now I have spoken something guhya confidential I say something guhyatar- something more confidential but now I am going to talk guhyatamam the most confidential. And what is that most confidential thing? ‘man mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru mam evais?yasi satyamte pratijane priyo si me’ come to me and man-mana four times here. Lord says, you do four things but every time He says His name is attached, man mana your mind fixed upon Me. ‘Man mana bhava mad bhakto’ take notes of this mad bhakta, man mana mad bhakta become My devotee. Mad-yaji when it comes to offering offer worship, worship Me. Mam namaskuru and obeisance’s also unto Me.

So there is no room for speculation it’s very clear person who is standing before Arjun just remember Me. Become My devotee, worship Me and your obeisance’s unto Me. And if you did so then? Mam evaisyasi, you will achieve Me. And this is the truth and I promise and I well because I love you I like you Arjun. So you come back to me, I would like you to come back to Me. And for sure you will come back I promise this so as we said we can put ourselves in the shoes or in position of Arjun and Lord is talking to us. You will you will come to Me ‘mam evaisyasi satyam’ there was no need for Lord to say I am speaking the truth because all that Lord speaks is only truth and nothing else but the truth.

Trisatyam Lord is described by those demigods when Lord was appearing in Mathura those prayers. And then now “sarva dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja” so give up Christianity give up Islam is it saying that? Yes or no? Give up or not give up? Give up Christianity? No could it refer is it possible? They did not even exist. Buddhism is 2500 years old. Krishna did not say but well it’s a big subject matter.

(Devotee asking question) well quickly in the first chapter Arjuna is concerned about different dharmas. Jaati dharma this dharma that dharma and whole first chapter Arjuna is talking about different obligations towards society towards that. So Krishna is -give up that all those dharma’s because those dharmas were keeping Arjuna from battling or fighting those things were coming in the way of executing the will of the Lord, which is devotional service of the Lord. So give up all those dharma’s then He had said when appears ‘dharma samsthapanarthaya’ Lord had just said I appear to establish dharma and next thing He says give up varieties of dharma. So there is some distinction Lord appears to establish the principles of dharma but there are some principles which are to be given up or secondary but then dharma is mentioned OK give up all the varieties of religion then what do I do?. ‘mam ekam saranam vraja’ that is dharma ‘mam ekam saranam vraj’ that is dharma. And everything else that comes in between stops you from surrendering unto Krishna including demigod worship, karmakanda, jnanakanda, this kanda that kandakevala vishera bhand they are part of the shastras then finally there was Gita and Bhagvat we were hearing this morning.

“So Bhagvatam has made easy only Bhakti no other thing”

So goal is to come to the level of bhakti. Bhakta performs bhakti and achieves Bhagavan so that’s the dharma of the soul. The soul is bhakta he performs bhakti devotional service and achieves bhagavan is Supreme Personality of Godhead. So everything extra and all that neeti and morality and this obligation that obligation that has to be given up. Jnana mishra and karma mishra bhakti.

“anyabhilasita-sunyam jnana-karmady-anavrtam anukulyena krsnanu-silanam bhaktir uttama”.
“na dhanam na janam na sundarim kavitam va jagad-isha kamaye mama janmani janmanishvare bhavatad bhaktir ahaituki tvayi”.

So this verse is also talking ‘na dhanam na janam na sundari’ this is no karma I don’t want to be karmi enjoy life this aspect that aspect and life and perform this yagya and get a beautiful wife and beauty or elevation to higher planets. I am not into that na dhanam this karma and karmi results of karma furtive activities which is part of dharma which is part of the sashtra, compete package it is there is listed. And then ‘mama janmani janmanishvare’ no karma no jnana ‘mama janmani janmanishvare’ I don’t want liberation either. I don’t want to be karmi furtive worker no karma no jnana and result of it liberation. Janmani janmani, I am willing to take birth I don’t mind taking birth but in each birth I would aspire for one thing and that is ‘bhaktir ahaituki tvayi’. Aspire for bhakti what kind of bhakti ahaituki tvayi no no motivation no ya it’s causeless devotional service.

So this dhanam janam this karma and this to mukti this is a part of a complete package of dharma. So some of these things are to be given up and that is ‘sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam’. So with this we will have to look at Quran as we look at Puran also. Some other things from puran are to be given up to go higher or to achieve the final destination Golok or Krishna’s lotus feet. So likewise we have to give up, Quran for sure they do stress on one, no demigods the cleansing is done some kind of ‘sarva dharman paritayajya’ and that aspect the demigod they did the marjanam, even at the time of Mohammad when he appeared they were worshipping some kind of 600 demigods they still have the list of 600. So they stress one of course impersonal for sure, they just have wall and they offer obeisances, there is no altar or no form.

‘mam janmani janmani ishware’ – I don’t want liberation, I am ready to take birth after birth, I don’t aspire to become liberated merge in Brahman, which is result of jnana, the jnanis are they have Brahman realization, merging into Brahman. Don’t mind taking birth but in each birth devotional service. Ok so this topic is big topic ‘sarva dharman parityajya’ this is the crux of the matter, in fact if this could be understood we should be understanding this thoroughly well this is like the essence. We should clear on what is Lord is talking about ‘Mam Ekam Saranam Vraja’.

Sometimes there is comment about this vraja, vraja means to go, vraj also means Brajmandal you go to Brajamandal. You take shelter of Braj and go to Braj. Give up all mundane material world just go to Braj, go to Vrindavan or go to Mayapur same. This Braj is equal to Mayapur and Braj non different. Love thy Lord with all their heart with all their strength. This is Bible, talking about love but then they also talk of, oh! Lord give us our daily bread. And Prabhupada said this is ofcourse that could be like “arto jijnasur artharthi jnani ca bharatarsabha” (B.G 7.16) 4 kinds of people come to me, those who are in need of artha some economic development.

So Srila Prabhupada was one time few of us were there in Mumbai and just before we were to leave for preaching he was explaining the difference that they pay to Lord O! God to give us or daily bread not pure. He appreciated at least they are approaching God but then he cited the example of Yashoda. Yashoda feeds bread and butter to the Lord. If He doesn’t come on time then she goes with a stick (laughter). Bread is ready butter is ready, instead you asking or begging give us daily bread, give us bread and butter. Here devotees says God eat bread butter.

So they are some seeds you will find in Quran and bible. Even 99 names of Allah are mentioned in Quran. That’s why when they chant on beads their beads have 99 beads not 108 because 99 names. But ‘namaste saraswati deve gaura-vani-pracharine nirvishesha-shunyavadi pashchatya-desha-tarine ‘. So trouble is with Hinduism included and Buddhism for sure and this Islam and Christianity this is all impersonalize voidism the karmi the karma you will find some karma in Puran and Quran as well. Jnana you will find there as well furtive activities. So in that sense this is to be given up, if the Hinduism is to be given up. I mean the essence of Hinduism is Krishna Consciousness. Whatever is not a substantial there is something secondary or something so those things are to be given up. And then you get something in return and that is ‘mam eka’, ekam-we. And we were hearing this morning they are so many incarnations of the Lord so Bhagavan but svayam Bhagavan is “ete camsa-kala? pumsah k?snas tu bhagavan svayam” (S.B 1.3.28). So there is difference between Bhagavan and svayam Bhagavan. So here svayam Bhagavan is ekam.

“Have you seen our Krishna?”

Krishna took temporarily form of Narayan and stepped in front of them and Namo Narayana they offer their obeisance and inquired, have you seen Krishna? And then this so called Narayan heard this enquiry, “have you seen our Krishna?” This Narayana could not maintain His position (laughter). So Gopis kind of dragged Krishna from Narayana He was just playing doing little drama in humors ways, He added some hands here and there. He had hidden his flute but when heard their enquiry, “have you seen our Krishna?” Krishna ‘mam ekam’ their Krishna had to appear and His hands were dropped off. Krishna takes His flute and played the flute. So ‘mam ekam’ and then ok He did not make any progress.

And then after that ‘mam ekam sharanam’ yesterday we were dealing with Krishna don’t preach to those who are not austere and at least four conditions were mentioned. Those who are not into devotional service, those who are not bhaktas, those who are envious to them do not preach. And then, but He says those who preach they become very dear to Me. And Oh! Dhananjay you have heard this with attentive mind. He is again enquiring Arjun all that I am talking now have you heard did you hear with attention? You are with Me? You are focused? He is enquiring like that. We also have to see whether we were focused. So is your ignorance and illusion now dispelled? And this will happen only when hearing was with attention, focused. Result of such hearing oral reception receiving Krishna through ears. Seeing Lord also with the help of ears, we don’t see much with eyes, see with the ears. So have you done this? In response to that Arjun says yes yes, I did it. And as a result now “nas?o mohah” we talked yesterday or day before about that but we have been talking “O! Infallible one, my illusion is now gone, I have regained my memory by your mercy this has happened”. And I am now firm and free from doubt and I am prepared to act according to your instructions and dialogue ends there.

So there is no need whole talk started in the middle of the battle early morning hours on Moksada Ekadasi day at sun rise time Krishna had to talk army ready to go conch shells are being blown. And then Krishna had to get into this conversation because Arjun Dhanurdhar he is dharurdhar but not ready to fight. But now he is ready to fight so no need to talk further so Krishna stops.

As soon as Arjun yes ‘karisye vacanam tava’ then everything has stopped. So officially the dialogue the samvad ends here between Krishna and Arjun and you could count sometimes someone has counted Dhritarashtra speaks once only and Sanjay spoke so many verses Arjun I think some 70 or verses are somebody saying 80? So sounds 70-80 I forgot the exact numbers so there is number like that and then Krishna has spoken over 600 verses and then Sanjay is another dialogue going on his dialogue ended Kurukshetra dialogue has come to an end but Hastinapur continue. So this Sanjay uvaca is talking in Hastinapur and ‘roma-harshanam’. And what is happening to him as he was hearing? The hair standing on end as I have heard this conversation then he says I was able to hear this conversation “vyasa-prasadac chrutavan” (B.G 18.75) you should take note of this Sanjay says I was able to hear because of the mercy of Srila Vyasadev because Srila Vyasadev gave that extra ordinary power to see and hear this was given to Sanjay.
He was ready to give it to Dhritarashtra himself but Dhritarashtra declined, no no if I see now I’ll be seeing distraction of my sons only. So better I remain blind then Vyasadev had given special vision power, doordarshan television to Sanjay and this is ‘vyasa prasadaC’ I was able to hear directly ‘yogesvarat k?snat’ directly from Krishna I have heard and as I keep hearing this samvad ‘adbhut samvad drishyami’ I am becoming very joyous, Jolly happy. I take great pleasure and punah punah again and again as I remember also remember that “rupam adbhutam’ hari’s form. He is coming to my mind. And vismayah wonderful “hr?yami ca puna? puna?” and I am enjoying. So these are the reactions responses of Sanjay who also was a witness to this conversation he was directly hearing and relating that with Dhritarashtra.

In the beginning Dhritarashtra enquired “Kim kurvat sanjay” First verse chapter one text one ‘O! Sanjay please tell me please tell me’. What did they do? So what did they do? Means who is winning who is losing the battle? So this is beauty of Bhagvat Gita the circle is getting completed. The note on the note that Bhagvat Gita started now it is ending on that note. And Sanjay is reply to Dhritarashtra he says wherever or you wanted to know Kim kurvat what is happening at the battle and I must tell this to you. And wherever this Yogesvar Krishna and this partha this dhanurdhatra there you will see 4 things ‘tatra srir vijayo bhutir dhruva nitir matir mama’ (B.G 18.78). As far as my mati goes my intelligence functions as far as I know the shastras and have done experience I must tell you this that who is going to be victorious who will win in the battle? Because battle is just now starting but he is ready to give the conclusion from his experience.

“Their victory is guaranteed”

Although this battle is going be won by? Arjun party. “Pandavas vijayastu pandu-putranam yesham pakshe janardana”. Vijayastu pandu putranam. So Pandu putra’s vijay is guaranteed. Sons of Pandu will be victorious why? Esham pakshe janardhana, Janardhana is on their side, so their victory is guaranteed. So this is wise man like Sanjay could from their experience their realization they could draw conclusion like this. And the first word of Bhagvat Gita is? “Dharma” last word is “mama” so this Bhagvat Gita is mama dharma my dharma. This is Krishna’s my dharma. I have given this dharma. My dharma is Bhagvat Gita. Laws of the Lord, dharma is laws of the Lord. Laws are given by Me in Bhagvat Gita from “dharma to mama”. First word Dharma last word Mama in between it is dharma mama dharma.
So “6 items of Surrender” someone could write 6 items of surrender? Who knows what are they one by one? Ok

Whatever is favorable you accept that’s first, of course listing is one thing it’s not easy to know what is favorable there could be big debates and fights on what is favorable

2) Whatever is unfavorable you reject. Kick out that’s easy right? That’s how it is again same thing discrimination determining what is unfavourable. Because mind is going to be playing big role always accept -reject ‘sankalpa-vikalpa’ at every moment mind is doing this. So above the mind is? Intelligence, and above that is soul and super soul. So with the help of Caitya guru and with the help of our superiors Spiritual Master we’ll have to come to right conclusions what is unfavorable for me. What is favorable for me? Food for someone could be poison for others. Each varna each ashram that quite of wide variety of list. Favorable list unfavorable acceptance rejection.

3) Having firm faith that Krishna will protect. We struggle even in does God exist? Then we have to get over that first. Does God exist? So not only god exists but He will protect us, that’s the sign of Surrender.

4)Krishna is only maintainer our only Visvambhar, Vishvambhar ok maintenance is also His portfolio G.O.D – He is Generator He is Operator He is Destroyer. So God Vishnu maintains Krishna maintains specially maintenance of our devotion not just feed our body which animal’s bird’s bodies are also fed and eating sleeping is going on. Our maintenance devotee maintenance is not just soap and toothbrush and life insurance these days you are working on. ‘Yogakshena vahavyam’ so it’s not just material needs but body mind soul has needs and maintenance.

5) Self surrender -full surrender, ‘atma nikshep’ OK what is atma nikshep? Fully surrender as per His wishes you act.

6) And on the top of that we have to be humbl
e, is that difficult? How big is the soul? Not big. By nature we are humble by nature we are humble but we take false position being centre of the universe.

Question: Is there difference between to maintain and protect?

One is maintain and one is protect are part of this, there is difference subtle difference.
Question: All these are symptoms of Surrender and one of the items there is surrender so what is the difference?
Answer: Fully surrender it says, yes Bali Maharaj surrendered everything surrendered everything other things are different from that being humble is also surrender. When the thief surrenders to the police, he agrees to surrender I am going to surrender my gun, I am going to surrender my stealing robbing tendencies and you just order me I will act as per your wishes and we’ll listen to you. So we are also some kind of culprits like that disobeying the laws of the Lord disobedient stubborn what not. So we want to surrender, our wealth also everything.

‘tvadiya vastu govindam tubhyameva samarpaye’ –all belongs to You
, lets offer back to You. Take humble position means also we are surrendering that ignorance taking a false position of being somebody “ishvaro aham” as soon as you become humble then ishvaro aham that bhava you have surrendered that bhava that attitude or false pride you are renouncing you are giving up kicking it is unfavorable also. You may say whatever is unfavorable you reject so this Ishwar bhava is unfavorable you also give that out. As you give it up you become humble is also sign of surrender. They are interrelated as they explained like that and the result ‘mam ekam sharanam vraj’ kind of surrender. “Sarvadharman paritagya” give up varities of religion or so called religion or secondary principle of religion give up.

So that is also giving up “anukulyasya sankalpah pratikulyasya varjanam” whatever is ‘pratikul’- against contrary ‘varjanam’- give up. So I think we have as I said we have a limit I think we have to now move on to the next topic. Of you doesn’t mind ok what is the next one?

“Substantiate the importance of surrender to Krishna through the bonafied Spiritual Master, coming in disciplic succession appropriate reference to the shastras”

Transparent via media is Spiritual Master

Transparent- what is transparent? You could see through you look at spiritual master and you see through him. Who do you see? Krishna he shows you Krishna or you see through him Krishna he doesn’t block your vision. Others could be acting like a cloud you are here and the cloud in the middle sun is other side and you don’t see sun anymore. ‘Krishna surya sam’ He is also like a sun Krishna is like a sun. So some people come in the middle especially women comes in the middle or men could come in the middle something comes in the middle and you are illusioned. Your ignorance and darkness you stop seeing, you go blind I mean one little entity is enough to keep, just see the power of maya. “balampashyame mayaya” Kapil dev said to mother just see the power of my Maya specially in the form of women “strimay yam” just one women or one men or someone he could be keeping you away from the Lord. But then Spiritual master comes in the picture comes in front of you and he doesn’t block your path or vision no illusion you see through him with his help everything becomes clear ‘cakhu-dan dilo jei, janme janme prabhu sei divya-jnan hrde prokasito’.Divya jnana transcendental knowledge is revealed.

So this is the Lord’s arrangement. With the help of this arrangement this is big part of dharma infrastructure the whole facilitation that Lord does so that living entity conditioned soul is freed sadhus and shastras acharyas. The Guru the Spiritual Master has a big role to play and Krishna says surrender unto Me, Prabhupada says there is no difference if Krishna says surrender unto Me and spiritual master says surrender to Krishna. He is not talking; this is as it is Bhagvat Gita as it is. For some other so called spiritual master may one day declare I am God, don’t look beyond me, don’t look through me, some one behind me. So then such so called guru has to be rejected. He is unfavorable sign of surrender whatever is unfavorable you reject. Again Bali Maharaj rejected Shukracharya he was not letting Bali Maharaj surrender unto Vaman dev he rejected spiritual master because he was acting low some motivated or not transparent. The importance of surrender could be the “tad viddhi pranipatena” (B.G 4.34).
So Krishna has personally recommended this, so this is Lords divine scheme strategy arrangement and there are different spiritual masters – Shiksha Guru, Diksha Guru, Vartmapradarshak Guru, Caitya guru variety. And each one is to be understood they have roles to play. Shiksha guru could be prominent in someone’s life and Diksha Guru he is a torch light of knowledge spiritual master. “tamaso ma jyotirgamaya” – get out of the ignorance go to the light.
That light is coming from Krishna. So that’s the role of spiritual master.

The forth topic is “Substantiate the importance of surrender to Krishna as ultimate conclusion of Bhagvat Gita”
With reference to some other Bhakti shastras importance of surrender to Krishna has ultimate conclusion of Bhagvat Gita. This is the conclusion of Bhagvat Gita. What is the conclusion of Bhagvat Gita? lot of time you say what ‘sarva dharman paritayjya’ the importance of surrender what is the importance of surrender? ‘ mam ekam sharnam vraja’- Surrender unto Krishna.

Is it important? How? Why? Freedom through Surrender in this material. ‘mam eva ye prapadyante mayam etam taranti te’ again to me only ‘mam eva prapadhyante’- those who surrender unto Me only what happens? ‘taranti te’- they are liberated. Any other thoughts? Let us surrender this life anyway we have to surrender so why not surrender, begin surrendering get used to this surrender and then attain perfection. At the end will be forced to surrender whether you want to or not to you will be forced. So why not be wise and voluntarily surrender.
(Question by devotee) Surrendering unto Him “jnanavan mam prapadyate” more you know Lord more you will surrender unto Him, there is a connection. ‘jnanavan’ –one who is knowledgeable you will surrender unto Lord those who do not surrender what is their position?

“ye sastra-vidhim utsrjya vartate kama-karatah
na sa siddhim avapnoti na sukham na param gatim” (B.G 16.23)

(Question by devotee, Maharaj says Haribol!! Quite powerful logical). Even Demigod big big Demigods are surrendering unto the Lord. Bramha with the tears in his eyes prays to the Lord and he had committed some offence and he had comeback. Like that Indra also come to surrender he came with Surabhi Cow, he came to Godrum dvip. Bramha had come to Antardvip performing austerities then he was given this Haridas Thakur Bramha is Haridas Thakur position incarnation. So Demigods take the dust of Krishnas feet on the head, while Krishna who is around in the forest of Vrindavan taking care of the cows bare foot Krishna goes barefoot serving cows playing with his friends. The Lakshmi and the Demigod they seek the dust of Krishna’s feet take that on their head. In that kind of Krishna is nice wonderful Krishna He is serving cows, He is playing with His friends. Yashoda could chastise Him, knowing that kind of Krishna lot of people don’t know that Krishna, Vrindavan Krishna. Ok so it was nice being with you, talking to you.

Thank you.
Lokanath Swami Maharaj Ki Jai!!




Krishna the Judge above all judges

Venue: Germany Bhavat Saptha (Ajamil Katha series – Seventh Session)

We are in the beginning of 3rd chapter of the 6th canto, Ajamil has already gone back to Godhead, that’s good news (Maharaj laughs) by hearing story of Ajamil you felt inspired and blessed. (Maharaj says correlating with the last session the sixth and addressing the devotees) The tree crash Maharaj is making the connection; yesterday as we are describing Ajamil’s departure for the spiritual sky, big-bang crash was there. So like that you will be sending all the tress one by one. Yes these trees are not ordinary trees here. Very fortunate! Trees and the peacock and the deer and specially all of you very special souls – residents of ‘Goloka Dham’. You don’t have to go anywhere just stay here. Ok we have quite a big ground to cover here. We have about half of chapter half of 3rd chapter for now and the other half of this for the final session. Rajo uvacha that is king Pariksit said, in fact enquired

“nisamya devah sva-bhatopavarnitam pratyaha kim tan api dharmarajah
evam hatajno vihatan murarer naidesikair yasya vase jano yam “ (S.B. 6.3.1)

He would like to know ‘nisamya devah sva-bhatopavarnitam’ this demigod Yamaraja heard ‘sva-bhatopavarnitam’ Bhatah – servant, Yamaraja’s servants, his own servant’s “varnitam” whole reporting, whole description of their first hand experience what just happened up there, must be up-there because they went down there. so from up there what just happened ‘pratyaha kim tan api dharmarajah’ after hearing the report and specially report of ‘evam hatajno’ that his order Yamaraja’s order while being executed that order was foiled was nullified and his dutas his representatives were defeated.

And this was done by ‘murarer naidesikair’ this was done by Muraris, Murari the killer of Mura demon, His order carriers defeated and foiled the attempt of bringing Ajamil to hellish planet. So while all the reporting was done to Yamaraja, What did he have to say? Right! Question is clear? This is King Pariksit is asking for our benefit. Ok he is curious wants to know more. Ok Ajamil went back home what happened to capital of Yamaraja please tell? Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura says although the statements of the Yamadutas were fully upheld by Vedic principles, the statements of the Visnudutas were triumphant. This was confirmed by Yamaraja himself (now he will be doing that). Although the statements of the Yamadutas were fully upheld by Vedic principles they have spoken kind of truth, still the Visnudutas were triumphant. They were victorious, they had the upper hand.
“yamasya devasya na danda-bhangah kutascanarse sruta-purva asit”(S.B. 6.3.2)

And King Pariksit further states that the order of Yamaraja and they were defeated. They were foiled ‘kutascanarse sruta-purva’ we never ever heard such a thing, this never happened. First time ever we are hearing such an unprecedented news.

“etan mune vrscati loka-samsayam”(S.B. 6.3.2)

And this certainly has caused the doubt in my mind and certainly “loka-samsayam” lot of people must have similar doubt right now, they must be doubting, wondering.

“na hi tvad-anya iti me viniscitam”(S.B. 6.3.2)

And I personally don’t think anyone else competent to show some light on this matter. Clarify this issue no one other than you. O! Shuka Muni, could eradiate this doubt “vrscati loka-samsayam” no one else could do, only you. Hence, I am approaching you please clarify.
O great sage, never before has it been heard anywhere that an order of Yamaraja has been baffled. Therefore I think that people will have doubts about this that no one but you can eradicate. Since that is my firm conviction, kindly explain the reasons for these events.

sri-suka uvaca
“bhagavat-purusai rajan yamyah pratihatodyamah
patim vijnapayam asur yamam samyamani-patim”(S.B. 6.3.3)

Yes! Rajan my dear king ‘bhagavat-purusai rajan’ the purusah the people of Bhagavat the Supreme Personality of Godhead the four handed Vishnudutas ‘yamyah pratihatodyamah’ when Vishnudutah had defeated the people, the servant of Yamadutas, they went straight to ‘samyamani-patim’ Samyamani the capital of Yamaraja. As Amravati is capital of Indra, so samyamani-patim ‘pati’ the master of his capital and ‘patim’ also ‘patim’ has come twice. ‘patim’ is also master of so many living entities. So after reaching capital and approaching their ‘pati’ the master Yamaraja ‘vijnapayam asur’ they informed him this.

And next text number four “yamadutu ucuh” Yamadutas spoke like this, these questions they raised, question number one this is how they begin,

“kati santiha sastaro jiva-lokasya vai prabho
trai-vidhyam kurvatah karm phalabhivyakti-hetavah” (S.B. 6.3.4)


‘kati’ how many ‘santiha’ there are ‘sastaro’ the controllers. How many controllers are there? What’s going on? How many controllers are there? ‘jiva-lokasya vai prabho’ our prabhu our master ‘jiva-lokasya’ this plents where human beings reside. How many? How many controllers are there? ‘trai-vidhyam kurvatah karm’ and how many causes of the manifestation? ‘trai-vidhyam kurvatah karm’ the living entity is in ‘jivlokah’ in the human beings planet they perform activities as per sattva, rajo, tamo ‘trai-vidhyam kurvatah karm’ so the manifestation of the result, how many causes are there of that result. How many causes responsible for manifesting various results of activities performed under three modes of material nature? We will understand this better as we read the purport.

Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura says that the Yamadutas, the order carriers of Yamaraja, were so disappointed that they asked their master, almost in great anger, whether there were many masters other than him. Furthermore, because the Yamadutas had been defeated and their master could not protect them, they were inclined to say that there was no need to serve such a master. If a servant cannot carry out the orders of his master without being defeated, what is the use of serving such a powerless master? Who would like to serve? So they are seeing one master here they were thinking he was the one but does not look like, hence the question ‘kati’ how many are there? How many masters are there? They continued their reporting and presentation and questions.

<strong>“yadi syur bahavo loke sastaro danda-dharinah
kasya syatam na va kasya mrtyus camrtam eva va” (S.B. 6.3.5)

And if there are ‘yadi’ if there are ‘bahavo’ many ‘sastaro danda-dharinah’ the controllers and the persons responsible for taking decisions and punishing the culprit then ‘kasya syatam na va kasya mrtyus camrtam eva va’. Either more than one according to Yamadutas they think that will create lot of difficulties. You need only two or two parties so many in each party or just one in each party, then translation says it very clearly lets go for that. ‘If in this universe there are many rulers and justices who disagree about punishment and reward, their contradictory actions will neutralize each other’. Two judges are fighting with each other and their judgment may get neutralize and no one will be punished in the process or rewarded. That’s one scenario otherwise if there are contradictory acts failed to neutralize each other then everyone has to be both punished and rewarded. Like if there are two temple authorities and they are fighting over a bhakta one says, ”no no he should stay.” other one says, ”Out ! My way or the highway”. (You heard of that) My way or Highway. So if they are fighting if actions will neutralize each other of these two authorities then neither stay, no decision, neither stay nor leaving. But if their act fail to neutralize each other of the two ISKCON authorities then that bhakta will have to go and stay it’s quite confusion to understand it’s quite confusion.

So because the Yamadutas had been unsuccessful in carrying out the order of Yamaraja, they doubted whether Yamaraja actually had the power to punish the sinful. Although they had gone to arrest Ajamila, following Yamaraja’s order, they found themselves unsuccessful because of the order of some higher authority. Therefore they were unsure of whether there are many authorities or only one. If there are many authorities who gave different judgments, which could be contradictory, a person might be wrongly punished or wrongly rewarded, or he might be neither punished nor rewarded. According to our experience in the material world, a person punished in one court may appeal to another. Thus the same man may be either punished or rewarded according to different judgments. However, in the law of nature or the court of the Supreme Personality of Godhead there cannot be such contradictory judgments. The judges and their judgments must be perfect and free from contradictions. Actually the position of Yamaraja was very awkward in the case of Ajamila because the Yamadutas were right in attempting to arrest Ajamila, but the Visnudutas had baffled them. Although Yamaraja, under these circumstances, was accused by both the Visnudutas and the Yamadutas, he is perfect in administering justice because he is empowered by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Therefore he will explain what his real position is and how everyone is controlled by the Supreme controller, the Personality of Godhead.

Even his judgment was right according to him but now he is going to explain that its “not just me, you know, there is some other than me and that was his decision so I am helpless”. And this will clarify the doubt of his servants. Because they always thought he was only one no one equal to him, no one above him. But now their boss, their master is going to reveal unto them about no..no that’s not the case! This was my decision but my boss intervened and Vishnudas were there and that is perfectly all right with me.

“kintu sastr-bahutve syad bahunam iha karminam
sastrtvam upacaro hi yatha mandala-vartinam”(S.B. 6.3.6)

So Yamadutas they are thinking fine there could be more than one judge, different judges but there should be one judge above all the different judges. They are thinking that would be appropriate. ‘mandala-vartinam’ since there are many different karmis, or workers, there may be different judges or rulers to give them justice, but as one central emperor controls different departmental rulers, there must be one supreme controller to guide all the judges. And there is one which they don’t know or they thought they knew they were thinking that was Yamaraja but that’s not the case. Yamaraja is going to correct them. Yes! Yes! Such is the arrangement. There are so many controllers I am just one of them and there is one supreme above all of us.

Prabhupada writes, in governmental management there may be departmental officials to give justice to different persons, but the law must be one, and that central law must control everyone. Yamadutas could not imagine that two judges would give two different verdicts in the same case, and therefore they wanted to know who the central judge is. Yamadutas were certain that Ajamila was a most sinful man, but although Yamaraja wanted to punish him, the Visnudutas excused him. This was a puzzling situation that the Yamadutas wanted Yamaraja to clarify.

“atas tvam eko bhutanam sesvaranam adhisvarah
sasta danda-dharo nrnam subhasubha-vivecanah” (S.B. 6.3.7)

So Yamadutas say we always thought ‘atas tvam eko bhutanam sesvaranam adhisvarah’ you are the only one ‘bhutanam sesvaranam adhisvarah’ of all living entities you are the only controller. ‘sasta danda-dharo’ – you have a danda, you have a rod meant for punishment and you are ‘subhasubha-vivecanah’ of all human beings ‘subhah’ pious ‘asubha’ impious activities you would take into consideration and discriminate and come to the judgment. And we thought that was you. You are only one ‘tvam eko bhutanam sesvaranam adhisvarah’. But so that was our understanding, we assumed that. But now they say

“tasya te vihito dando na loke vartatedhuna
caturbhir adbhutaih siddhair ajna te vipralambhita” (S.B. 6.3.8)

But from what we experienced today is something different, we were convinced that you are the one but now your orders ordained by you, some directions, some assignment ‘O..go bring that person to me’. ‘na loke vartatedhuna’ that doesn’t work anymore. Your order is not final; this is our experience, firsthand experience. We were just there and someone else came, sounded like they had came from another authority higher authority. So your orders are not final anymore. They are being foiled and defeated. And they say this was done we saw ‘caturbhir adbhutaih siddhair’ four persons came they were ‘adbhutaih’ they were amazing ‘siddhair’ they seem perfect personalities and they had another order contrary to yours and they surpassed ‘vipralambhita’. They surpassed your order and so we have come to conclusion that your rule doesn’t work anymore. And they further state couple of things before they give floor to Yamaraja to speak.

“niyamanam tavadesad asmabhir yatana-grhan
vyamocayan patakinam chittva pasan prasahya te” (S.B. 6.3.9)

‘niyamanam’ we are just bringing him to you this Ajamil and this was ‘tavadesad’ your order. We were bringing him into ‘yatana-grhan’ the torture chamber; we were bringing him to the capital samyamani and bringing him to the torture chamber. But ‘vyamocayan’ but they liberated this ‘patakinam’ this sinful person. As we had tied him with the rope, these ‘chaturbhih’, ‘adbhutaih’, ‘siddhaih’ those four persons came they were amazing, effulgence, powerful, authoritative and you know they just cut the rope ‘chittva’ they just cut the ropes ‘prasahya’ by force and we were helpless. We could do nothing we just had to come empty handed, leaving that most sinful wretched person behind. And now what they really are interested to know is this. ‘tan’ they are only thinking all the way to Yamaraja’s abode and while being there and they are only thinking and only thinking of the four persons. They couldn’t get them off out of their head and mind. Although they were out of sight they were on their mind, in their mind stuck. They looked very beautiful, powerful and

“tams te veditum icchamo yadi no manyase ksamam
narayanety abhihite ma bhair ity ayayur drutam” (S.B. 6.3.10)

So ‘veditum icchamo’ it is our desire to know. You want to know about them. ‘yadi no manyase ksamam’ and if you think we are competent or qualified, deserving candidates to know about these matters then only, of course its upto you. If you think we are fit and appropriate that we know this then please explain about those people. They wanted to say about those people what they did was. ‘narayanety abhihite’ as this person Ajamil he said Narayana..Narayana…Narayana, they came ‘ayayur drutam’ instantly they arrived.

As soon as this Ajamil said,“Narayana..Narayana..” they were there. ‘drutam’ they did not lose up a second. And upon their arrival they took the side of Ajamil and they said, “Do not be afraid! Do not be afraid! No fear we are here. Don’t be afraid” ‘Ma bhayshtah ma shudhad ma bhaya eti’ They were comforting him and they said, “Don’t be afraid. Do not fear”. So we want to know about these people and other matters that we have concerned and confused!. The order carriers of Yamaraja, being very much aggrieved because of their defeat by the four Visnudutas, wanted to bring them before Yamaraja and, if possible, punish them. Otherwise they desired to commit suicide (Maharaj laughs and says Prabhupada writing..) they were desiring to commit suicide. Before pursuing either course, however they wanted to know about the Visnudutas from Yamaraja, who is also omniscient. Yamaraja is all knower so he wanted to know this, so if he is not satisfied we are going to commit suicide. If its not explained to us or we are going to resign. Here is our letter of resignation, we resign here we find another master, job, the powerful one whose order we could follow and execute.

<strong>sri-badarayanir uvaca
“iti devah sa aprstah praja-samyamano yamah
pritah sva-dutan pratyaha smaran padambujam hareh” (S.B. 6.3.11)

Sukhdev Goswami is making comment ‘iti’ – like this ‘ aprstah’ – questioned when he was questioned ‘praja-samyamano yamah’ Yamaraja master of Samyamani when he was questioned like this ‘pritah’ he seemed very pleased ‘sva-dutan’ with his own dutas, his representatives, his order carriers he seemed very pleased with them and ‘pratyaha’ he spoke. He is now about to give the reply and he is replying how ‘smaran padambujam hareh’ Yamaraja their boss is not surprised or furious. ‘Eh! What? This happened? OK! Let’s go, I will also join you, I’m very much disturbed with these developments. My order is not final anymore someone else interfered’. So this wasn’t the response, he was not angry. That was their idea or their expectations. Yamadutas are expecting that when Yamaraja listens to this he will finally understand what we are talking about. He is going to be furious, he is going to take some action and he is going to back us up. But nothing of this sort instead they see smile on his face. He is smiling he is happy pleased with all this reporting and not only that he gets into some hey..What are you? What are you doing? He immediately gets into the, he is remembering someone, praying to somebody, his mood changes.
He goes internal his feelings and Sukadeva Gosvami says ‘smaran padambujam hareh’ while remembering the lotus feet of Hari, Yamaraj now wants to reply. Not just whimsically or first of all now is important task so it had to be accompanied by prayers and remembrance of Lord so that the judgments and his word would be full of truth, full of knowledge, he wants to connect with the source of knowledge and then he is now.

paro mad-anyo jagatas tasthusas ca otam protam patavad yatra visvam
yad-amsato sya sthiti-janma-nasa nasy otavad yasya vase ca lokah” (S.B. 6.3.12)

As soon as he begins to speak first thing Yamaraja says admits, “Yes..Yes ! I would like to make it very clear in my opening dialogue”. ‘paro mad-anyo jagatas’ Yes yes there is someone ‘anyo’ is another one above me, yes such person exists you had some doubt about this but I want to confirm, yes there is someone above me and He is all pervading, all powerful, He is everywhere filling up this universe. ‘otam protam pat’ Yamaraj says like in cloth there are some threads going this way ‘otam’, some threads are going that way ‘protam’. So threads are everywhere some this way that way throughout the cloth, there is thread. So using this example, my Lord my boss someone above me He is ‘otam protam’ like that, that is His position.

‘yad-amsato sya sthiti-janma-nasa’ and just His partial expansions they undertake big big tasks like creation of this entire cosmic manifestation ‘Sthiti, Janma, Nasa’ the creation, maintenance and destruction is just handled by His expansion. He doesn’t even take part in this. He is that powerful personality. And ‘nasy otavad yasya vase ca lokah’ like a big powerful bull or oxen is controlled by pulling ‘nasy’ rope through nostrils, the plough-man could easily control the bulls just handling the rope. Likewise, ‘yasya vase ca lokah’ all the planets and their controllers like we have this rope in our nose and ropes are in His hands, He is the boss and we are just pets, like oxen that is just to turn this way turn that way.
Yamdutas suspects there was a ruler even above the Yamaraja, to eradicate their doubts Yamaraja immediately replied, “Yes! There is one supreme controller above everything”. Yamaraja is in charge of some of living entities namely human beings but animals who also move are not under the control not under his control. Only human beings have consciousness of right or wrong. And among them only those who perform sinful activities come under the control of Yamaraja. Therefore although Yamaraja is a controller, he is only the departmental controller of few living entities. There are other demigods who control many other departments. But above them is one Supreme controller Krishna. ‘isvarah paramah krsnah sac-cid-ananda-vigrahah anadir adir govindah sarva-karana-karanam’ (Bs 5.1) The Supreme controller is Krishna and Prabhupada is quoting Bhagvad-Gita- ‘mattah parataram nanyat kincid asti dhananjaya’ (B.G. 7.7) no one superior no one equal and like that.

‘aham mahendro’ ‘aham’ he is giving whole list, myself, ‘mahendro’ there is Indra, ‘nirrtih’ name of demigod, ‘Varuna’ controller of water, ‘pracetah’, ‘somo’ – moon ‘agnih’ that’s fire ‘isah’ – Shiva ‘pavanah’ – incharge of air [Pavan Pavansut Hanuman], ‘virincih’ – Brahma, ‘aditya’

aham mahendro nirrtih pracetah somo gnir isah pavano virincih
aditya-visve vasavo tha sadhya marud-gana rudra-ganah sasiddhah
anye ca ye visva-srjo maresa bhrgv-adayo sprsta-rajas-tamaskah
yasyehitam na viduh sprsta-mayah sattva-pradhana api kim tato nye” (S.B. 6.3.14-15)

He is giving whole big list but not complete of course. Complete list would have 33 crores, 330 millions demigods. He is saying all of us and that ‘na viduh sprsta-mayah’ we just don’t know Him fully well. He says some of us ‘sattva-pradhana’, some of us demigods are predominantly in mode of goodness but there are ‘upadevas’ the sub-demigods and there are other upadevas. And we have difficulty understanding Him. ‘api kim tato nye’ then what to speak of others? Even ‘sattva-pradhana’ like myself and several others have difficulty understanding. We cannot understand ‘na viduh’. His activities we cannot understand we just get bewildered and then we just don’t know Him fully well. ‘yasyantam na viduh surasura-gana devaya tasmai namah’ (SB 12.13.1).

And at end of Bhagvatam says, that Lord who is glorified ‘yam brahma varunendra-rudra-marutah stunvanti divyaih stavair’ (SB 12.13.1) that Lord who is glorified by Brahma, Varun, Indra, Rudra, Marut ‘stunvanti’ they praise Him ‘stunvanti divyaih stavair’ –like uttamsloka the choicest poetry, Mantras, Stutis, they employ they use to glorify the Lord ‘gayanti yam sama-gah’ and then there so many sastras ‘vedaih sanga kramopanisadair gayanti yam sama-gah’ and all the vedas, puranas, Upanishad they all ‘gayanti’ they are singing the glories of the Lord, chanting the glories of the Lord this is second thing. Third thing is ‘dhyanavasthita-tad-gatena manasa pasyanti yam yogino’ and Lord is glorified by the demigods, Lord is glorified throughout all scriptures and that Lord whom yogis are trying to capture within their heart or meditate upon Him within their hearts. ‘dhyanavasthita-tad-gatena manasa pasyanti yam yogino’ ‘manasa pasyanti yam’ with their minds ‘pasyanti’ visualize or with the transcendental vision they see Him within the heart. So that Lord ‘yasyantam na viduh’ this kind of Lord His ‘antam’ His end is not known to anybody that is why He is known as ‘Ananta anantsesa’ He is unlimited. ‘yasyantam na viduh’ Who do not know? ‘surasura-gana’. Of course! Demons do not know but even demigods do not know. ‘surasura-gana na jananti na viduh’ they do not know so same thing has being stated here by Yamaraja that we know Him something, somewhat but we don’t know Him fully and we are ‘sattva-pradhana’ and this is then what to speak of so many others, other demigods, what to speak of human beings and what to speak of Germans, Europeans and all those people in Los Vegas (Laughter).

Even those in mode of Goodness like many demigods and great rishis described in these verses cannot understand activities of Supreme personality of Godhead. There Prabhupada further clarifies in the purport. Prabhupada is also quoting Bhagvatam verse, “Oh! King!” Yudhisthira Maharaj stated by Bhismadeva to Yudhisthira Maharaj in first canto. “O! King, no one can know the plan of the Lord Sri Krishna. Even though great philosophers inquire an inquire exhaustively, they are bewildered.” (S.B. 1.9.16) and like that. And the next

“yam vai na gobhir manasasubhir va hrda gira vasu-bhrto vicaksate
atmanam antar-hrdi santam atmanam caksur yathaivakrtayas tatah param” (S.B. 6.3.16)

Translation -As the different limbs of the body cannot see the eyes, the living entities cannot see the Supreme Lord, who is situated as the Supersoul in everyone’s heart. Not by the senses, by the mind, by the life air, by thoughts within the heart, or by the vibration of words can the living entities ascertain the real situation of the Supreme Lord.

Purport – Prabhupada writes, although the different parts of the body do not have the power to see the eyes, the eyes direct the movements of the body’s different parts. The legs move forward because the eyes see what is in front of them, and the hand touches because the eyes see touchable entities. Similarly, every living being acts according to the direction of the Supersoul, who is situated within the heart. Eyes are directing all the wondering all the wondering of different limbs and body. Hand is working, feet are working because eyes are directing, eyes are seeing. So likewise living entities are like the limbs and Lord is like the eyes. So Lord shows then living entity moves makes move. So controlled like that.

“tasyatma-tantrasya harer adhisituh parasya mayadhipater mahatmanah
prayena duta iha vai manoharas caranti tad-rupa-guna-svabhava”
(S.B. 6.3.17)

So now after mentioning that Lord, Yamaraja wants to say something about the Vishnudutas because that was there…it was very much bothering and they wanted to know about those. So those Vishnudutas so Yamaraja says :

tasyatma-tantrasya harer adhisituh parasya mayadhipater mahatmanah’

“First of all you know their boss, Vishnudutas’ boss is just ‘atma-tantrasya’ He is just independent and no one above Him and it is self sufficient and fully independent and He has powers ‘mayadhipater’ He is adhipati of maya whole cosmic creation and like that ‘harer adhisituh’. He is just controller of Master of everything. He is master of illusionary energy. He is ‘mahatmanah’, He is supersoul ‘mahatmanah’. This is called ‘mahatmanah’, ‘Mahatma’ is living entity but here ‘mahatmanah’ is supersoul and you know this Vishnudutas that you enquired about. They are His dutas, they are His people, they are His representatives so certainly they are also independently powerful and ‘prayena duta iha vai manoharas’ they are very beautiful. My Lord is beautiful so they are also beautiful. Like father like son. If parents are beautiful then children are also beautiful. So my Lord is beautiful so His servants are beautiful but you are not so beautiful..look at in mirror you are not beautiful but ‘caranti’ and they are always wondering Vishnudutas are always wondering and they are empowered by such a Lord Supreme controller independently powerful. Lord has empowered them so His powers are also in them. But you are my representatives but I could invest as much power as I have. My powers in another word are limited. Do you understand now? My dear children.

He addressed them as Putra- so children do you understand? So Vishnudutas, Vishnu is their boss and I just described Him ‘yasyehitam na viduh’ there is no beginning, end and even I can’t understand Him fully. So they are His servants His representatives and you are my, I’m limited. I have limited powers so only that much power I could invest in you. And my Lord is ‘rupa-guna-svabhavah’ Lord has form, qualities and activities. Yaa! He is not impersonal He has personality. Yamaraja describing the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the Supreme controller. But the order carriers of Yamaraja were very eager to know about the vishnudutas who had defeated them in their counter with Ajamil.

Yamaraja therefore stated that Visnudutas resemble the Supreme Personality of Godhead in their bodily features, transcendental qualities and nature. They resemble because Lord has form, Lord has quality, personality and beauty. So they are resembled ‘tad-rupa’ like He has like Lord has likewise His representatives almost has similar qualities, beauty, personality and power. Yamaraja therefore stated that Visnudutas resemble the Supreme Personality of Godhead in their bodily features, transcendental qualities and nature. In other words, the Visnudutas, or Vaisnavas, are almost as qualified as the Supreme Lord. Yamaraja informed the Yamadutas that the Visnudutas are no less powerful than Lord Visnu. Since Visnu is above Yamaraja, the Visnudutas are above the Yamadutas. Persons protected by the Visnudutas, therefore, cannot be touched by the Yamadutas.

“bhutani visnoh sura-pujitani durdarsa-lingani mahadbhutani
raksanti tad-bhaktimatah parebhyo mattas ca martyan atha sarvatas ca”(S.B. 6.3.18)

Translation: The order carriers of Lord Visnu, who are worshiped even by the demigods, possess wonderful bodily features exactly like those of Visnu and are very rarely seen. The Visnudutas protect the devotees of the Lord from the hands of enemies, from envious persons and even from my jurisdiction, as well as from natural disturbances. Yamaraja is concluding. Prabhupada writes in purport Yamaraja has specifically described the qualities of the Visnudutas to convince his own servants not to be envious of them. Yamaraja warned the Yamadutas that the Visnudutas are worshiped with respectful obeisance’s by the demigods and are always alert to protect the devotees of the Lord from the hands of enemies, from natural disturbances and from all dangerous conditions in this material world. Sometimes the members of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness are afraid of the impending danger of world war. During Prabhupada’s time such was situation there (Maharaj says I know in Narsingh shetra devotees were making bombproof shelter in Germany. So I was told I was visiting soon after they attempted that). So there such a scare was there, the world was scared and so were the devotees. So they would bring this up to Prabhupada, their concerned. So this purport must have written around that time, so it’s just including devotees were afraid of impeding danger of world war and ask what would happen to them if war should occur? Prabhupada replied in all kinds of danger, they should be confident of their protection by the Visnudutas or the Supreme Personality of Godhead, as confirmed in Bhagavad-gita ‘kaunteya pratijanihi na me bhaktah pranashyati'(B.G. 9.31). If you recite this many times you will be convinced that His devotees never perish. Material danger is not meant for devotees, this is also confirmed in Srimad-Bhagavatam. ‘Padam padam yad vipadam na tesam’ (S.B. 10.14.58) in this material world there are dangers at every step, but they are not meant for devotees who have fully surrendered unto the lotus feet of the Lord. The pure devotees of Lord Visnu may rest assured that Lord’s protection, and as long as they are in this material world they should fully engage in devotional service by preaching the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Lord Krishna, namely the Hare Krishna movement of Krishna consciousness. So not to worry about the war just stay busy preaching the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Lord Krishna. This is text no. 18th of Chapter 3, 6.3.18 and this is our today’s last verse, this morning last verse. ‘Dharmam’ and first part Prabhupada quoted this word hundreds and hundreds of time. As you hear his lecture tapes you will hear ‘dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam’ there are three more lines but this verse this part he had always quoted most

“dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam na vai vidur rsayo napi devah
na siddha-mukhya asura manusyah kuto nu vidyadhara-caranadayah” (S.B. 6.3.19)

Real religious principles are enacted by Supreme Personality of Godhead that’s the meaning of this first line. ‘dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam’ that again real religious principles are enacted by Supreme Personality of Godhead. So much manufacturing goes in this world, so many religions has come into existence. So many religious principles so called religious principles which most of them just concoction just mere speculation and like that. So to defeat all these attempts and condemn them Prabhupada always quote this verse. No no! Religion cannot be manmade or some organization made it has to be God made and God enacted. ‘dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam’ that was his mantra.

‘dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam’ Lord is behind religion. The religion- dharma is creation of Lord and not concoction of some human being or demigod or no one else. Just one person and that’s Lord who is creator, enactor, designer of Dharma. The whole Bhagvad-Gita is dharma, given by Lord. The first word of Bhagvad- Gita is what? ‘Dharma’. The first word of Bhagvad-Gita is Dharma. First Chapter first text

<strong>’dharma-ksetre kuru-ksetre samaveta yuyutsavah mamakah pandavas caiva kim akurvata sanjaya” (B.G. 1.1)

The first word is Dharma and last word is 18th Chapter text number 78, is that 78? Last word is..Hurry up! Hurry up! Prabhupada would ask for references the disciple would quickly…..’mama’ Ok! So first word is ‘Dharma’, last word is ‘mama’. ‘mama’ means mine. So this whole Bhagvad-Gita is my Dharma. Given by me ‘Dharma mama..mama dharma’ whole thing is ‘mama dharma’. Gita is ‘Dharma’ the laws of Lord. Prabhupada defines ‘Dharma’ is laws of Lord, this is Bhagvad-Gita. ‘mama-dharma’ ‘Dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam’.

Translation – Real religious principles are enacted by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Although fully situated in the mode of goodness, even the great rishis who occupy the topmost planets cannot ascertain the real religious principles, nor can the demigods or the leaders of Siddhaloka, to say nothing of the asuras, ordinary human beings, Vidyadharas and Caranas. So Lord has all these parties no they can’t they can’t enact the religious principle, they can’t create. No demigod, no siddas, no vidyadharas, no human being also ‘manusyah asura siddha munyah devah rushyah’ na na you have to add na before everybody it is already there (repeat). ‘na siddha na asurah na manusyah’ they cannot. Only ‘dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam’ that’s all. Only Him is competent, Dharma is already there, you don’t have to create another one. Why take trouble? Why duplicate?

Purport: When challenged by the Visnudutas to describe the principles of religion, the Yamadutas said, veda-pranihito dharmah: the religious principles are the principles enacted in the Vedic literature. They did not know, however, that the Vedic literature contains ritualistic ceremonies that are not transcendental, but are meant to keep peace and order among materialistic persons in the material world.

So what they had said was correct but that ritualistic ceremony mentioned in Vedas and Prabhupada says they are not transcendental ritualistic ideas, proposals are not transcendental but still they had function/role to play in materialistic society to keep the society peaceful those things are emplaced. Real religious principles are nistraigunya, above the three modes of material nature, or transcendental. The Yamadutas did not know these transcendental religious principles, and therefore when prevented from arresting Ajamila they were surprised. Materialistic persons who attach all their faith to the Vedic rituals are described in Bhagavad-gita (2.42), where in Krishna says, ‘veda-vada-ratah partha nanyad astiti vadinah’ the supposed followers of the Vedas say that there is nothing beyond the Vedic ceremonies. Indeed, there is a group of men in India who are very fond of the Vedic rituals, not understanding the meaning of these rituals, which are intended to elevate one gradually to the transcendental platform of knowing Krishna ‘vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyah'(B.G. 15.15). Those who do not know this principle but who simply attach their faith to the Vedic rituals are called veda-vada-ratah.

Here in it is stated that the real religious principle is that which is given by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. That principle is stated in Bhagavad-gita. ‘Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja’ (not vrajaa..vraja). There are three ways you could say vraj, vraja, vrajaa. Some words are without ‘a’ ‘halant’, some are with a and some are with two ‘a’s. ‘rajan’ when you say ‘rajan’ there is no ‘a’. When you spell ‘rajan’ means king..O! king! ‘rajan’ it is without ‘a’ like that devotees also word ‘Rama’ they two ways ‘Hare Ram’ [correct pronunciation as far as our another project] so ‘mam ekam saranam vraja’ (not vraj). One should give up all other duties and surrender unto the lotus feet of Krishna. That is the real religious principle everyone should follow. Even though one follows Vedic scriptures, one may not know this transcendental principle, for it is not known to everyone. To say nothing of human beings, even the demigods in the upper planetary systems are unaware of it. This transcendental religious principle must be understood from the Supreme Personality of Godhead directly or from His special representative, as stated in the next verses.
And that will be stated at 11 o’ clock. So we are halfway through this 3rd chapter of 6th canto and Yamaraja will continue his pravachan, his talk, his dialogue, his conversation with his dutas and he is authority big authority he is. He is one of those twelve persons they know everything. So we will hear rest of the presentation by Yamaraja this mid-day.




Only strong sadhana can protect us from a fall-down like Ajamila’s

Venue: Germany
Bhagvat saptha (Ajamil Katha series – Forth session)
Bhagvat recitation, this is our third session we are still in the 1st chapter of the 6th canto, with this session, this morning’s 1st session, we will complete the 1st chapter that leaves us with two more chapters. So 2nd chapter we will do today between 2nd and the 3rd session of today, we will complete the 2nd chapter and remaining 3rd chapter we’ll relish here, study tomorrow.
So, Yamadutas have arrived and Vishnudutas also. Yesterday we heard of the brief life sketch. So, brief life sketch and who would study such a lifestyle. The husband is a prostitute’s husband. ‘dasi patir ajamilah’, he was named, he was addressed, introduced as ‘dasi patir ajamilah’. Then we have travelled long distances with great expense and inconvenience leaving asides so many important assignments we have come here just to study the life of dasi pati, the husband of this prostitute. Is it worth? Now you know what the topic is, you better go home, do something more important. So, there’s a contrast, there’s a lesson. Even dasi-pati was such a degraded person, there’s hope for even such a person. That’s the inspiration that we get, that we are not as fallen or not that bad like; we can’t match the style, lifestyle of Ajamila. So such fallen person but he chants Narayan and 4 Vishnudutas come and 3 were already there, 3 Yamadutas and Vishnudutas naturally want to stop the undertaking, the work and action by Yamadutas. It was not necessary, it is irrelevant they were thinking, the Vishnudutas were thinking. This person has chanted the name of Narayan, that’s it. At the time of death he had done so helplessly he cried out ‘bhartur nama maharaja sahasapatan’ (S.B. 6.1.30) when they heard name of their swami, their master Narayan sahasa means suddenly they appeared.
You could see how swiftly they must have moved, not losing even fraction of second. It is said that they are normally here; in the universe they are wandering, protecting Vaishnavas, picking up Vaishnavas, taking Vaishnavas back home back to Godhead, to Vaikuthloka. So, they were around the universe somewhere around the planet, somewhere and when they heard the name, someone chanting name Narayan they all appeared and they looked so beautiful, effulgent, that their appearance dissipated all the darkness and. So we went through description of their clothing and ornaments and the weapons they were carrying and this was just contrary to the ‘vakra-tundan urdhva-romna’ (S.B. 6.1.28), crooked faces and hair were standing on end and ‘ati-darunan’ very horrible looking. So, one coming from hell we could tell. Prabhupada wrote in one of the purports, just by looking at, before even foreigner is introduced, by his look or by his beauty, by his the way he is dressed, of course once he begins talking you would know more about him. He is just dressed or he is a fool no. 1 he is dressed like a gentleman you would find that out but not only they are good looking and well dressed but they are also highly intelligent, very wise persons. So when you would hear them talk or Yamaraja’s hear them speaking, they just left Ajamila behind and they proceeded to abode of Yamaraja. So, we were ‘sri-visnuduta ucuh’, so, Vishnudutas are challenging Yamadutas and they think maybe they are not even the representatives of Yamaraja, if they were truly representatives of Yamaraja they wouldn’t even hear, “Did you not hear the name Narayan that this person chanted?”, “Yes, we did”. “Still you are taking him to abode of Yamaraja? Doesn’t sound like you are Yamaraja’s representatives. You better double check with Yamaraja, telephone him (laughter) what you are doing is right or wrong. We are confident that you shouldn’t be here. You have nothing to do with this case. This is beyond your jurisdiction. What are you doing here? And if you truly are somebody from Yamaraja” then,
yuyam vai dharma-rajasya yadi nirdesa-karinah
bruta dharmasya nas tattvam yac cadharmasya laksanam” (S.B. 6.1.38)

So, we would like you to bruta, bruta means say…say it, yuyam vai dharma-rajasya yadi, if you are truly Dharmaraj’s, Yamaraja’s nirdesa-karinah, the order carriers nirdesa, Yamaraja gives some order and you execute, if that is what you people are then, bruta-say, dharmasya tattvam- we want to hear the truth about dharma. At the same time, yac cadharmasya laksanam, dharmasya tattvam yac cadharmasya laksanam, dharma, adharma both you have to explain; what is dharma? And what is not dharma? what is religion? What is not religion? Ok hurry up, say it. This enquiry by Vishnudutas to Yamadutas is most important. Prabhupad writes in the purport, a servant must know the instructions of his master. The servants of Yamaraja claimed to be carrying out his orders, and therefore the Visnudutas very intelligently asked them to explain the symptoms of religious and irreligious principles. The questions posed by the Vishnudutas are very suitable. One who represents someone else must fully know that person’s mission. If you are representing Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, if you are representing Srila Prabhupada, representing spiritual masters, then we have to know their mission, Prabhupada is pointing out here. The devotee in Krishna Consciousness Movement therefore must be fully aware of the mission of Krishna and Lord Chaitanya. Otherwise they will be considered foolish. All devotees, especially preachers must know the philosophy of Krishna Consciousness so as not to be embarrassed and insulted when they preach. To avoid the embarrassing, insulting and other kinds of situation, one should equip oneself, especially preachers with the philosophy, with the mission of the master authority that they represent and the next.
“katham svid dhriyate dandah kim vasya sthanam ipsitam
dandyah kim karinah sarve aho svit katicin nrnam” (S.B. 6.1.39)

Translation- What is the process of punishing others? Vishnudutas are enquiring, who are the actual candidates for punishment? Are all karmis engaged in furtive activities punishable, or only some of them? So, no one knows, right? These things, so, this we could know. Vishnudutas have enquired for our benefit. So the answer, we could be benefited by the answer. The answer is coming up. Good to know, who is candidate for punishment. So Yamadutas only punish Hindus’ or Germans’ also? One party, followers of buddha, they were part of their conversion campaign they were saying, “We don’t believe in this law of karma like Hindus do. So you should join our dharma. They are giving concession, our dharma is better. We don’t believe in law of karma. Come, please join us. Those who believe they have to suffer; as you sow, so shall you reap. This is a law, law of karma. If someone would tell, no no we don’t believe, so you should join our religion is much easy and you know. So is that the way? If someone says, no no we don’t believe in this law of karma, so is that person free from law of karma? Just because he says, oh! We don’t believe. So, in other words, Yamaduta’s Yamaraj has a jurisdiction over everybody. He’s coming up specially human beings for sure. So Prabhupad is pointing that out in this purport but I just want you to think, may be this question did not come up that Yamaraja and all these Yamadutas is only for Hindus’ and you know Chinese people have nothing to do with this. They have another, someone else, another Yamaraja or another system infrastructure. No, the same thing, its universal. One who has the power to punish others should not punish everyone. Very wise statement Prabhupada is making, one who has the power to punish others should not punish everyone, indiscriminately. There are innumerable living entities, the majority of whom are in the spiritual world and are nitya-mukta, everlastingly liberated. There is no question of judging these liberated living beings. This Yamadutas Yamaraja has no jurisdiction over all those living in the spiritual sky. Only a small fraction of the living entities, perhaps one fourth, are in the material world, right? tri paad vibhuti, one paad vibhuti spiritual sky is like a three forth of the kingdom creation and one forth is material world. So, Prabhupada is saying, perhaps only one fourth of the population, living entities are here. And the major portion of the living entities in the material world — 8,000,000 forms of the 8,400,000 forms of life — are lower than human beings. They are not punishable, for under the laws of material nature they are automatically evolving. So nobody from the spiritual sky is punishable and then out of the 8,400,000, 8,000,000 are other species. So they are also not punishable. A dog is not punished if he crosses when the red light is on, does police arrest the dog? He is just irresponsible. So he would never teach any tricks anything to the dog. So like that, so that’s remaining only 400,000 human beings who are advanced in Krishna Consciousness are responsible but not all of them are punishable. Those engaged in advanced pious activities are beyond punishment. So Prabhupada is just trying to analyze and say who are the only parties punishable. Only those who engage in sinful activities are punishable. Therefore the Visnudutas particularly inquired about who is punishable and why Yamaraja has to be designated to discriminate between who is punishable and who is not. How is one to be judged? What is the basic principle of authority? These are the questions raised by the Visnudutas. So this is very advance knowledge. So good to know these things. ‘Yamaduta ucuh’ okay now is the turn…so this morning we’ll just spend time listening to the Yamadutas (laughs) We have only time, that’s how the chapter ends the 1st chapter. Now we begin talking with the text no. 40 to text no. 68, there are 29 verses these Yamaduta ucuh. Why ucuh? Many. If it was only one Yamadut, only one then uvach. Then you see sometimes ucuh means many are speaking. Ucuh uvach so plural number gets ucuh. Yamaduta ucuh. Now you know. So it’s done. That ignorance is out. Now your knowledge, for rest of your life you know whenever there’s ucuh right? Next 30 40 years you know ucuh means many persons are speaking. Easy, right? Just spend 1 minute or half minute to understand something and then you know once and for all.
“veda-pranihito dharmo hy adharmas tad-viparyayah
vedo narayanah saksatsvayambhur iti susruma” (S.B. 6.1.40)

So, they have defined it is veda-pranihito, the vedas. What is prescribed in the vedas or done things as per prescriptions of vedas that is dharma. And tad-viparyayah just opposite of that is adharma, irreligion. They are defining like this. Vedo narayanah saksat, vedas are sakshat Narayan, this is Sanskrit. We should be capable to understand this much. Vedas are sakshat narayan, ya directly Narayan. ‘Sakshat haritven samasta shastrey’ we sing every day. Sakshat hari, sakshat means Himself directly. So vedas are sakshat Narayan. ‘Svayambhur iti susruma’ and ya we have heard this. We have heard this from Yamaraja.
Purport – The servants of Yamaraja replied quite properly. Prabhupada is giving his judgment, Prabhupad is satisfied; Yamarajas’ replies quite properly. They did not manufacture principles of religion or irreligion, no manufacturing. Instead, they explained what they had heard from the authority Yamaraja. ‘Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah’: one should follow the Mahajana, the authorized person. Yamaraja is one of twelve authorities. They said susruma, Prabhupada is writing. They said right? This word susruma. They said we have heard this. But but we saying this to you that this vedo narayanah saksat iti susruma – we have heard this. Ofcourse we have heard this from Yamaraja. Susruma, so this is the right way to acquire knowledge. Injunction of dharma emanate from breathing of Narayan. And Srila Madhvacarya also makes a comment here, the transcendental words of the Vedas emanated from the mouth of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Therefore the Vedic principles should be understood to be Vaishnava principles because Vishnu is the origin of the Vedas. The Vedas contain nothing besides the instructions of Vishnu, and one who follows the Vedic principles is a Vaishnava. So Vedas are also known as ‘apaurushaya’ they call ‘apaurushaya’ means not spoken by a ordinary human being ‘apaurushaya’. Yamadutas continue
“yena sva-dhamny ami bhava rajah-sattva-tamomayah
guna-nama-kriya-rupair vibhavyante yatha-tatham” (S.B. 6.1.41)

Yena sva-dhamny ami – this is Narayan. Narayan resides in His own abode, they say. And although He resides in His own abode through the agency of rajah-sattva-tamo, He is creating this whole existence which is full of guna that is qualities, nama that is names, kriya that is activities, rupair that is forms. This world full of forms, qualities, activities is a creation of Narayan which He creates with the help of sattva-rajah-tamo. Although He is not personally here, yena sva-dhamny although in His own abode, He’s creating everything. All these manifestations are, thus Narayan is the cause of entire cosmic manifestation. Is that correct also? These Yamarajas are they correct? Not correct? Getting good marks. He is able to remain in His own abode, Prabhupada is writing, He (i.e. Narayan) is able to remain in His own abode and without endeavor supervise and manipulate the entire cosmic manifestation through the interaction of the three modes of material nature — sattva, rajo and tamo. These interactions create different forms, bodies, activities and changes, which all occur perfectly. This is Lord’s creation, everything’s perfect and having said that much now Yamadutas are going to list of witnesses. So when one commit sin, before they are sent to carry out the order whether he is to be punished or rewarded to which body he gets next. This all has to depend on, you know, the actual facts about that person’s dealings, activities. So there has to be witnesses. Someone to witness the activity of that person. So they say, so please take note of the witnesses. Lot of times we just look around, there’s no one here, just me and then we go. Just do it. You feel good, just do it, don’t even think. Just see no one around, ok no one around. But the Yamadutas say
suryo gnih kham marud devah somah sandhyahani disah
kam kuh svayam dharma iti hy ete daihyasya saksinah” (S.B. 6.1.42)

Sakshi Gopal, you know, Sakshi Gopal, witness Gopal. Gopal who witnessed. So saksinah, daihyasya saksinah, daihi- we are daihi, embodied. So of daihi that is daihyasya. Daihyasya saksinah – these are the witnesses of the activities performed by the conditioned soul. so who are they; surya-sun, agni-fire, kham-ether, shabdah khe, marud sound is in ether, shabdah khe, khe means ‘in’, so in ether there is sound that’s another statement of Krishna from the 10th chapter of Bhagvat Gita. So marud-air, wherever you are there’s always air right? Could you go to somewhere where there’s no air? You could go but not come back (laughter). So even air is a witness. Air is given, you think air is just passing by but air gathered all the news (laughs) That air will go to Yamaraja and somehow pass the news on to him. Devah-demigod, somah-moon, sandhya-evening, sandhya-evening time sandhyakal, ahani-the day, dishah-directions, how many directions are there? 10; purva, pashchim, dakshin, uttar, agneya, nairrti, vayavya, ishanya, urdhva, adho. These are the ten names of ten directions. So, the ten directions, they are also witness. Kam i.e. water, kuh i.e. land, svayam dharma Yamaraja himself is also witness. So like these are the witnesses.
Now Prabhupada is writing the purport – once we had a discussion with a learned Christian professor who argued that although people are generally punished after the witnesses of their misdeeds are examined, after the witnesses of their misdeeds are examined, ok, witnesses are examined. Someone committed misdeed and then witnesses are there right? Yes I was there, I saw, I took the photograph also and recording, I was right there. So when all these witnesses are examined then there should be punishment. This was the argument of this Christian gentleman who was talking with Prabhupada, arguing with Prabhupada, where are the witnesses responsible for one’s suffering reactions of past karma? Oh! Your Yamaraja punishes people, Hindu people or all the people but you know where are the witnesses are? We committed sin, may be in a cave, in a secluded place or here there wherever. So how they have to examine the witnesses, gather correct facts then only the judgement is going to be right otherwise it will go wrong. Understand the argument of this priest; if you understand the argument of the priest then you will understand the reply. Ya understood? His point was normally the judgment comes after hearing the witnesses about someone’s misdeed. So many people, so many living entities they are punished but where are the witnesses? So judgment is not going to be wrong. It is going to be wrong according to him.
Ok then Prabhupada is now, to such a person the answer by the Yamadutas is given here. Prabhupada is not giving any answer himself. The Yamadutas have given answer to the question or argument of this Christian professor, a conditioned soul thinks that he is working stealthily. Stealthily? Stealing you know stealing like a thief. Stealthily is working without anybody noticing while any action is being performed. So soul thinks, conditioned soul thinks that he is working stealthily and that no one can see his sinful activities, but we can understand from the sastras that there are many witnesses, we just find out from sastras witness is like sun, fire, like that, sky, air, moon and like that but doesn’t different witnesses. Where is the dearth of witnesses? The witnesses and the Supreme Lord both exist, and therefore so many living entities are elevated to higher planetary systems or degraded to lower planetary systems, including hellish planets. There are no discrepancies, for everything is arranged perfectly by the management of the Supreme God (svabhaviki jnana-bala-kriya ca). See how the creation of God works. we get to know this. Ok, they continue
etair adharmo vijnatah sthanam dandasya yujyate
sarve karmanurodhena dandam arhanti karinah” (
S.B. 6.1.43)
Translation – The candidates for punishment are those who are confirmed by these many witnesses to have deviated from their prescribed regulative duties. Everyone engaged in furtive activities is suitable to be subjected to punishment according to his sinful acts. Questions were raised, who are the candidates for punishment? And Yamadutas say that everyone engaged in furtive activities is going to be punished according to the sinful acts. So the witnesses, the different ones, they say yes yes we know that this person deviated from the prescribed regulative duties. He is a brahmin and this prescribed duty and he is kshatriya, he is a brahmachari, here’s this, here’s that and each one has prescribed duty and all these personalities appointed to act as witnesses, they have been trained, they know what are the regulative principles, what is dharma and what is not dharma and all that. So through the eyes of the scriptures and keeping all these prescribed duties, knowledge in forefront of their mind, they are looking at different personalities. And as soon as they go against, they deviate from the prescribed duty, immediately who is sleeping there in middle of Bhagvatam this will be reported right? Speaker may not take notice but there is, the witnesses are around. The news is all the time the communication is and for each one of us there is one file. Yamaraja has super computer and the data is all the time updated and plus minus because person may leave anytime so report has to be ready (laughter). Not that he is dead and pending file and do review and do all calculations who knows. No as soon as the person is no more which could be anytime, so the data has to be ever ready, perfect. Prabhupada just said, Lord’s management is perfect, no delays.
“yena yavan yathadharmo dharmo veha samihitah
sa eva tat-phalam bhunkte tatha tavad amutra vai” (S.B. 6.1.45)

‘Yena yavan yathadharmo dharmo veha samihitah’ so according to the activities dharmic-religious or irreligious we perform then that persons gets the phalam-the fruit, either bitter fruit or sweeter sweet fruit, amutra vai-in the next life accordingly he gets the body. ‘Karmana daiva netrena sat asat janma yonishu’, karmana daiva netrena- the karma, they have eyes, daiva netrena, sat asat janma yonishu- yoni means specie sat means higher specie, asat means lower specie. According to one’s karma, one gets higher body or lower body. In proportion to the extent of one’s religious actions in this life, one must enjoy or suffer corresponding actions of this karma in the next. Srila Prabhupada is quoting verse from Bhagvat Gita, “urdhvam gacchanti sattva-stha madhye tisthanti rajasah jaghanya guna vrtti-stha adho gacchanti tamasah” (Bhagavad-gita 14.18). Urdhvam gacchanti- upwards go, sattva-stha- person situated in mode of goodness they go upwards. Then madhye- in the middle, tisthanti rajasah- persons in the mode of passion, they stay in the middle and adho gacchanti- adho means down gacchanti means go tamasah- people in mode of ignorance go down mode of passion stay? Where? Middle and Goodness upwards. So goodness means pious activity so they go to heaven, the tamasic sinful activity they go the hellish planets and rajasah the passionate ones, they stay in the middle, this planet, we know the planet system. So this is 14th chapter 18th verse of Bhagvat Gita. So Prabhupada has quoted that verse supporting Yamaduta’s statement. Like that they just as the spring time the omnipotent Yamaraja is as good as Brahma they say, they talk about their master Yamaraja. For while situated in his own abode or in everyone’s heart like Paramatma, he mentally observes past activities of a living entity and thus understands how living entity will act in future lives. Such is a power of Yamaraja, he could just think of his present and past activities and he could immediately visualize that he would act like this in future and then accordingly he has given the bodies. One should not consider Yamaraja an ordinary living being, he is as good as Lord Brahma, he has competent, co-operation of Supreme Lord who is situated in everyone’s heart and therefore by the grace of Supersoul, he can see the past, present and future of all living beings from within, from within himself, he could see this. The actual decisions concerning next lives of entities are made by Supersoul and they are carried out by Yamaraja. So there is a co-operation, they work as a team or Lord has a final say, Supersoul has a final say in the matter then Yamaraja does the execution of the will of the Lord. We are skipping some verses here for some time constraints are there. So,
“pancabhih kurute svarthan panca vedatha pancabhih
ekas tu sodasena trin svayam saptadaso ’snute” (S.B. 6.1.50)

The living entity enjoys or suffer. They say conditioned soul has five working senses, five objects of senses are there and five knowledge acquiring senses i.e. fifteen; five, five, five and then what is the sixteenth item is mind and seventeenth is a living entity himself. So like that, the seventeen together they have connection with the subtle body and so according to knowledge acquired and particular kind of knowledge acquired, actions perform they enjoy or suffer differently. So some enjoy shoka that’s lamentation, harsha, bhaya, artidam (S.B. 6.1.51). The subtle body is endowed with sixteen parts — the five knowledge-acquiring senses, the five working senses, the five objects of sense gratification, and the mind. This subtle body is an effect of the three modes of material nature. It is composed of insurmountably strong desires, and therefore it causes the living entity to transmigrate from one body to another in human, animal life and life as a demigod.
So, and there are few more verses, no, they are not many more but few, just then replying to the questions raised by Vishnudutas and towards the end now, last 10 verses. Vishnudutas are going to describe in more detail, giving some more details of the life, sinful life of Ajamila, this dasi-pati Ajamila. And then in conclusion they say yes, this is the reason, this is the reason we want to bring him to Yamaloka. So they want to make their case. So they have given some reading through philosophical explanations and now life history again. We are studying the life of this dasi-patir ajamilah.
“Ayam hi sruta-sampannah sila-vrtta-gunalayah” (S.B. 6.1.56)
He was…ya, so pay attention, important details are there. So do not miss anything, Yes so they say he was sruta-sampannah- means he used to hear a lot from right sources ‘Sravanam kirtanam visnoh smaranam’ (SB 7.5.23). He was doing this, nityam Bhagvat sevaya, studying shastras, vedas, he was doing this regularly. Sila-vrtta-gunalayah- he was well behaved, he had a very bright character and he was full of so many good qualities, dhrta-vrato- following so many vows, he used to fast on ekadashi and like that. We have also taken vrat, what is our vrat? Katha vrat, katha-vrati, we have katha-vrati. Right now we are following vrat of katha, katha vrat. There is brahmachari vrat, ekadashi vrat, different vratas. Right now there is a month of ‘Purushottam mass’. You heard of that? ‘Purushottam mas’ every after 3 years, one additional month appears called Purushottam and lot of people if you go to Vrindavan now, it’s so crowded. Started 3 weeks ago, 1 more week to go. So this month is considered very very auspicious especially for hearing and chanting. People drop their routine businesses and go to the holy places, stay there for whole month, following different vows, eating; they follow lot of eating restrictions. If you don’t eat salt, you’ll have a sweet voice and this and that, if you don’t drink milk, it gives benefit like that. So people follow lot of different vows and minimize their bodily demands and increase the spiritual practices during this month. All the holy places are crowded right now in India. Go to any and every holy place, people are coming in big numbers for darshan of the deities and taking holy dip, of course that’s the favorite pastime. Let’s take a holy dip, as soon as they come they want to find where have to take bath, bathing ghat, bathing ghat, snan, there’s a snan ghat, bathing ghat.
So, different vratas. Purushottam mass follow, this is also another vrat. So he was ‘dhrta-vrato’- he used to follow lots of vows. And ‘mrdur’- he was very mild person. Now he was arrogant but one time and ‘dantah’- he was sense and mind controller and he had mind and controlled his mind and senses to great extent and ‘satya-van mantra-vic chucih’ (S.B. 6.1.56)- yes he was very clean, always speaking truthfully, speaking truth, no lies, talking about the previous, before coming in contact with the prostitute, he was like that and they have information about that. How are they saying this? How did Yamadutas came to know this? How? Supersoul? Witnesses, Yes, so many witnesses, good news also, they are informed, not that only sinful activities, someone is doing good, that is also reported, that is also on the computer screen, that also appears. And he used to be very respectful and he had service attitude. “Guru-agny-atithi-vrddh” (SB 6.1.57) four parties mentioned he used to serve, be respectful, serving Gurus, fire, guests and old people and other parties and these people respecting agni is what? Light the fire and do swaha swaha or use the fire for cooking for the Lord i.e. worshipping, serving fire and guests should be treated as God, old people are wise people hence they are useful people in Vedic culture. So they should be respected, looked after not because they have become old now, just kill them it’s useless you know; get a gun wipe them out, no…old is gold, they have so much experience and so they could just sit down, they cannot run around so much but they can…they have brain they have experience in Vedic times. So they have been practicing how they overcame different difficulties in their life, this obstacle that maya, this that so they are seasoned so they could share their knowledge. So that’s a wealth to have such access. Sometimes we say in our Krishna Consciousness movement, we don’t have grand old mothers, grand old fathers, mostly young people or just 1st generation or one and half generation only but…so we are lacking to some extent and we have Prabhupada, the whole living experienced people gone through ups and downs and thick and thin of the life. Such people they help us, advice us, guide us, inspire us.
So this Ajamila used to be very respectful. As soon as old person walks into the bus, young people should stand up and please take the seat or some Sanyasi comes, now they don’t care (Maharaj laughs) we keep standing they don’t know, they don’t even know this is Sanyasi, they see he is carrying dand, they think he is also going for fishing (laughter) they don’t know what he is carrying, fishing rod fishing rod. We say yes yes fishing. This is an ocean of material, this is ocean so we fish, fish out people of this ocean so fisherman. So they don’t even know we are Sanyasi what to speak of respecting him or offering a seat or anything of service. So that’s the state of affairs. So more of his qualities are mentioned here that he was non envious- anasuyakah and mita-vag and there’s a mita-bhuk, vag means speach mita-vag means just speaking only when it is necessary. He was not just talkative, talking talking he was mita-vag. They say because God has given us two ears and how many mouths? One mouth. So hearing should be twice compared to talk. Normally we do other way round. We talk more, hear less. We don’t want to hear, we only talk. So this person, he was mita-vag. Sarva-bhuta-suhrt – he was very friendly to all living entities and sadhur – was very gentle person. So these are…that’s why he is said, described as sruta-sampannah – he was sampanna, well educated in Vedic knowledge. So having described his good qualities during his youthful days, now comes, so then what happened, ekada (S.B. 6.1.58) once upon a time he vanam yatah he was going into the forest garden pitr-sandesa-krd dvijah and he was going there because his father had sent him to do what? Adaya tata avrttah- to go and collect some phala- friuts puspa- flowers and grass samit then kusan there are two kinds of grasses required for the puja.
So while he was out there on a mission of collecting flowers and fruits and special grass required for puja, something happened. Dadarsa (S.B. 6.1.59) he saw “kaminam kancic shudram saha bhujisyaya” he saw one shudra- person in company of a prostitute and the prostitute has been described here as a “pitva ca madhu maireyam madaghurnita-netraya” and she had taken, she had drunk so much vodka, vodka? Russia what do they drink, vodka vodka or German bear she had taken so much “pitva ca madhu maireyam” that her eyes were rolling, she was just intoxicated like anything eyes were rolling. He was seeing this; this person was seeing all this. “Mattaya vislathan-nivya vyapetam nirapatrapam” (S.B. 6.1.60) and as a result her body was not…she was not even aware which part of her body is covered with clothes which parts are naked and vyapetam nirapatrapam – she was shameless. So either under the influence of the intoxication, the drink she had drunk, she had taken so much of that or purposely she was just not covering herself properly and what else? Kridantam – she was playful and gayantam – she was singing glories of the sudra, this person, low class person, oh how beautiful how this how that hasantam – laughing, anayantike – so together all they were busy like that. Does that sound familiar? Yes, we don’t have to read in Bhagvatam. This is…just go down the street and it is all there, worse than this. Prabhupada writes, while traveling along the public way, Ajamila came upon a fourth-class, not even third-class, fourth-class man and a prostitute, who are vividly described here. The drunkenness was sometimes manifest even in bygone ages, although not very frequently. Previous ages some drunkenness would manifest. In this Age of Kali, however, such sin is to be seen everywhere, for people all over the world have become shameless.
Long ago, when he saw the scene of the drunken sudra and the prostitute, Ajamila who was a perfect brahmacari, was affected. Nowadays such sin is visible in so many places, and we must consider the position of a brahmacari student who sees such behavior, Prabhupada is concerned. For such a brahmacari to remain steady is very difficult unless he is extremely strong in following the regulative principles. Nevertheless, if one takes to Krishna consciousness very seriously, he can withstand the provocation created by sin. In our Krishna consciousness movement we prohibit illicit sex, intoxication, meat-eating and gambling. In Kali-yuga, a drunk, half-naked woman embracing a drunken man is a very common sight, especially in the Western countries, and restraining oneself after seeing such things is very difficult. Nevertheless, if by the grace of Krishna one adheres to the regulative principles and chants the Hare Krishna mantra, Krishna will certainly protect him. So, difficult but not impossible, Prabhupada is trying to…like that, things are difficult.
“drstva tam kama-liptena bahuna parirambhitam
jagama hrc-chaya-vasam sahasaiva vimohitah” (S.B. 6.1.61)

So drstva tam kama – so first he was described what a nice person he was full of so many qualities. The next thing is seen. He had to see this sudra and prostitute embracing that scene. Drstva – by seeing this kama-liptena – full of kama, full of lust and parirambhitam i.e. hand, arms, they were embracing each other jagama hrc-chaya-vasam – he followed that, his thoughts went, he contemplated and he was taken over by this scene, the desire aroused within him and he became bewildered. Thus see what more he is doing.
stambhayann atmanatmanam yavat sattvam yatha-srutam
na sasaka samadhatummano madana-vepitam” (S.B. 6.1.62)

So he was trying to use his intelligence. What he was seeing, he was trying to stay transcendental. Atmanatmanam, atmana means using his intelligence, he was trying to ‘uddhared atmanatmanam natmanam avasadayet’ (B.G 6.5) in 6th chapter of Bhagvat Gita Krishna advices that one should lift himself, not physically but use of intelligence ‘atmanatmanam natmanam avasadayet’ – make sure you we don’t fall down. ‘Atmaiva hy atmano bandhur atmaiva ripur atmanah’ – the mind is one’s best friend or the mind could be best enemy, this is 6th chapter Bhagvat Gita. So with the mind one should try to, with the intelligence try to keep oneself on higher level and make sure mind is not degrading oneself ourself, this is Krishna’s advice. So mind could be enemy, mind could be friend. So under the circumstances he is trying he struggled used all his spiritual strength. Yatha-srutam – because he was trained he was told he had been hearing katha and all that. So all the techniques, all the knowledge under the circumstances what to do he was trying to apply that to this particular situation. Na sasaka samadhatum – however he did not become successful, he fall prey to the strong maya situation and mano madana-vepitam – his mind started more hesitation, fluctuation and it became stronger than the intelligence. Intelligence stopped functioning, mind took over madana i.e. lust, madana-vepitam, madanamohan. This kama the arrows pierced and he couldn’t take them out and then,
tan-nimitta-smara-vyaja- graha-grasto vicetanah
tam eva manasa dhyayan sva-dharmad virarama ha” (S.B. 6.1.63)

So in the same way that the sun and moon are eclipsed by a low planet, the brahmana lost all his good sense. Taking advantage of this situation, he always thought of the prostitute, and within a short time he took her as a servant in his house. Haribol, done deal, deal closed. Means lot more happened, he contemplated, he bewildered and then he took all the necessary steps, all the actions and he took her into his house, abandoned all the regulative principles of a brahmana and as prostitute entered his home, that was end of all the brahmanical practices at home. By speaking this verse, Sukadeva Gosvami wants to impress upon the mind of the reader that Ajamila’s exalted position as a brahmana was vanquished by his association with the prostitute, so much so that he forgot all his brahmanical activities. At the end of his life, by chanting the four syllables of the name Narayana, he was saved from the gravest danger of falling down. ‘Svalpam apy asya dharmasya trayate mahato bhayat’ (B.G 2.40) so only because he had performed those activities, pious and some spiritual activities before coming in contact with prostitute. So that, some progress that he had made, he was saved. He was able to chant and Lord saved him. So he has chanted, he has chanted Narayan few times, finished. I am going to do the same thing, now I know; like that people give some ideas. In India, people say, ohh…so practice low then forget it all and then say Narayan Narayan, when Yamadutas come, Narayan Narayan. Go back to Godhead. It may not work like that (laugh) that is cheating. That’s not the lesson this Bhagvatam is teaching us. Ok, few more verses. Thus Ajamila began spending whatever money he had inherited from his father to satisfy the prostitute with various material presentations so that she would remain pleased with him. He gave up all his brahmanical activities to satisfy the prostitute. Pitryenarthena (S.B. 6.1.64) – his father’s property, father’s money and he spend that on his prostitute.
“vipram sva-bharyam apraudham kule mahati lambhitam
visasarjacirat papah svairinyapanga-viddha-dhih” (S.B. 6.1.65)

Now, so ya, he married. He was already married to a brahmana’s daughter. So he threw her out, Brahmana’s daughter he threw her out and replaced her with the prostitute. This is what Yamadutas are saying this, that’s why we want to punish him. He even gave up the company of his very beautiful young wife, who came from a very respectable brahmana family. Although born of a brahmana family, this rascal…this rascal, bereft of intelligence because of the prostitute’s association, earned money somehow or other, regardless of whether properly or improperly, and used it to maintain the prostitute’s sons and daughters. ‘Nyayato ’nyayato dhanam’ (S.B. 6.1.66) legal illegal means he earned money and spend it on. So they say this brahmana irresponsibly spent his long lifetime transgressing all the rules and regulations of the Holy Scripture, living extravagantly and eating food prepared by a prostitute. Therefore he is full of sins. He is unclean and is addicted to forbidden activities. (S.B. 6.1.67). Purport – Food prepared by an unclean, sinful man or woman, especially a prostitute, is extremely infectious. Ajamila ate such food, and therefore he was subject to be punished by Yamaraja. And here is the final statement and conclusion of proposal by Yamadutas.
“tata enam danda-paneh sakasam krta-kilbisam
nesyamo ’krta-nirvesam yatra dandena suddhyati” (S.B. 6.1.68)

We want to purify him, but how? Yama-danda, the stick of Yamaraja. When he gets all the beating, then he’ll come to the senses. Want to straighten him out, that’s the only way he could be cured and rectified. This man Ajamila did not undergo atonement. Therefore because of his sinful life, we must take him into the presence of Yamaraja for punishment. There, according to the extent of his sinful acts, he will be punished and thus purified. So they are sticking to their proposal, they are convinced. This is what to be done with this Ajamila. The Visnudutas had forbidden the Yamadutas to take Ajamila to Yamaraja, and therefore the Yamadutas explained that taking such a man to Yamaraja was appropriate. Since Ajamila had not undergone atonement for his sinful acts, he was to be taken to Yamaraja to be purified. When a man commits murder he becomes sinful, and therefore he also must be killed; otherwise after death he must suffer many sinful reactions. Similarly, punishment by Yamaraja is a process of purification for the most abominable sinful persons. Therefore the Yamadutas requested the Visnudutas not to obstruct their taking Ajamila to Yamaraja.
Thus end the Bhaktivedanta purports of the Sixth Canto, First Chapter, of the Srimad-Bhagavatam, entitled “The History of the Life of Ajamila.”
So take a break for one hour and then…so you could digest this much. Contemplate on the life of Ajamila and then when you come back we will now listen to Vishnudutas. Vishnudutas are going to give befitting reply. Just see how they could sort this out.