Preach more and more


Preach more and more
Islamabad Karachi
4th July 2021

Should I speak in English or Hindi? Okay, I do not know Urdu but thank you Shyamanand Krishna Prabhu and Rama Yajna Prabhu who have always been in my association from the beginning and I also remember one time that I had addressed the devotees of Pakistan.

Ram Yajna Prabhu has remembered me again and so by his endeavour and request I am today meeting you all in Iskcon Pakistan and I am meeting the devotees of Gaura-Gaura Bhaktas. It is a meeting which is quite difficult as we do not meet often and have not met much before. We may have met a few of us before, either at Mayapur or Vraja Mandala.

Do you come to Mayapur or Vrindavan or Jagannatha Puri Dham ki jai! Some are saying that they come to the holy places from Karachi so there is a possibility that we have met. Anyway whatever it may be, we are meeting now and I am very happy to be meeting you all. You are all spirit souls and now you are a part of Gaudiya Vaisnavism by the mercy of Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.

You are becoming Gaudiya Vaisnavas. You are either becoming Gaudiya Vaisnavas or have become Gaudiya Vaisnavas. So therefore it is natural that when one Gaudiya Vaishnava meets another Gaudiya Vaishnava – we are constantly meeting other people in this world. There are so many different types of people all belonging to different religions.

There are people with different Karma, different situations and they have so many different problems but out of all these people are Vaishnava- actually Vaisnavas are from different Sampradaya’s, sects but to be a Gaudiya Vaishnava is the greatest thing. It is better than any other thing, the topmost thing and Gaudiya Vaisnavas will be found in Vaikuntha as well. Hindu, Muslim, Christian and whatever else is of this material world.

These labels are binding and they are false designations, but to be a Vaishnava is not just another designation. This is the actual recognition of the living entity, to be a Vaishnava. Those who worship Lord Vishnu are called Vaisnavas and these Vaisnavas you will find in Vaikuntha. There are also the Lord’s abodes like Ayodhya and Saket where you will find Vaisnavas.

Then there is Goloka where you will also find the Vaisnavas and these Vaisnavas in Goloka will be called ‘Gaudiya Vaisnavas.’ So amongst the Vaisnavas also, the best of Vaisnavas are Gaudiya Vaisnavas, the followers of Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.

So I am meeting today the topmost of all Vaisnavas and we are meeting just now and so it is natural that because we are meeting, this has become a festival. This can be am called a ‘Milan Uttsava’ as we are meeting one another and so yes, it is a festival.

satam prasangan mama virya samvido (SB 3.25.25)

In the association of pure devotees, discussion of the pastimes and activities of the Supreme Personality of Godhead is very pleasing and satisfying to the ear and the heart.

So this then becomes a festival. Sat Sanga, a meeting of Sadhu’s becomes a festival and ‘mama virya samvida. This is where they remember or speak of my activities, pastimes and my beauty.’ So some of you are in Karachi or some are in Rawalpindi, then some of you are in Hyderabad. There may be other places as well where some of you are from but anyway I cannot remember any other names of places.

So many places, towns and villages were put together and it was all named Pakistan but actually all living entities are brothers. ‘Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai.’ In saying this I have remembered that when I was young, yes when I was young and was studying in school – this is in around 1962 or 1963.

At that time China and Bharat, India were at war with each other and Bharat is always dedicated to the motherland but there is the feeling of brotherhood with everyone. This is the specialty of India and Indians. So at that time they were teaching the children throughout India a poem. What was this? ‘Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai. Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai.’

Maybe you have heard it or read it somewhere or probably you were not even alive at that time so you wouldn’t know but I was there and I was so small. And as you heard they would say this and in one village which is not so far from here in Pandharpura I was born and we would all shout this ‘Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai.’ We were saying this, all us children but we understood that Hindi is a language and Chini means sugar in Hindi language.

But it was said ‘Bhai Bhai’ brothers, so it wasn’t making any sense. How could sugar and the language of Hindi be brothers? But as we got older we began to understand that Hindi meant the people of Hindustan and Chini meant the people of China. So we understood this much and so we put together that these two kinds of people are brothers.

But I was thinking at that time and anybody else would think as well that when can these two kinds of people actually become brothers? What should be the common factor? The father should be the same, one common father and then they will be brothers. So I could not understand how the people of Hindustan and the people of China could be brothers and have one common father.

How could we have one common father and if we did then who was that personality? Was it Modi or some president, the president of China? ‘Is he the father of the Hindustani and Chinese people?’ So I was not getting the answer to this question but when I joined the Hare Krishna movement and reached the lotus feet of Srila Prabhupada and he was reading Bhagavad Gita then I understood.

aham bija pradah pita (BG 14.4)

I am the seed giving father.

Krishna has said that ‘I am the seed giving father of all the living entities.’ This is the translation in English. I am the father, mother, grandsire.’

tvam eva maataa ca pitaa tvam eva
tvam eva bandhush-ca sakhaa tvam eva (saranagati gadyam)

You truly are my mother and you truly are my father.
You truly are my relative and you truly are my friend.

The Lord is the mother and father and all of us Hindu’s and all of the Chinese people. Their father is one and that is the supreme Lord and so we Hindu’s and Chinese become brothers in this way. So I was saying as a boy that we are all brothers, Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai, but we have to understand that it is not just us Hindu’s and Chinese that are brothers.

Actually the people of Hindustan are brothers with the people of Pakistan or Balochistan or Afghanistan or Khalistan (laughter). As many ‘stan’s’ there may be like America-stan or Autrailia-stan, all the people of all these places have one common father. For this reason we must know this and understand that we are all brothers and sisters.

We can say that this knowledge is derived from Bhagavad Gita or in Gaudiya Vaishnavism and we can say that this knowledge is of the religion of God. This is knowledge of Sanatan Dharma, or it is knowledge we attain as Indians and in the same Indian culture we hear:

ayam nijah paro veti gananaa laghuchetasam
udaar charitaanam to vasudhaiwa kutumbakam (Maha Upanisad ch.6)


Only narrow minded persons have two different outlooks towards common matters relating to themselves and others, whereas for noble and broad minded persons the entire world is like their own family.

So in this verse we see that some people say ‘these people are my own! These Pakistani people are my own people, long live Pakistan! And these people of Hindustan, they are outsiders- death to Hindustan!’

So these feelings of ‘my own and outsiders, ayam nijah, these are my people and these are outsiders’ gananaa laghuchetasam, these thoughts and outlooks are of those who are laghuchetasam, these are people whose thoughts are narrow minded. People who think like this have a small heart as well as narrow-minded thoughts. So this verse is speaking about these sort of narrow minded people.

Udar charitanam vasudhaiwa kutumbakam

But those who have good character are ‘Guru’ which means heavy- laghu means light and Guru is heavy. So those who are ‘Guru’ have high thoughts and are noble hearted and they see things from far. Udaar charitaanam to vasudhaiwa kutumbakam. Their thoughts are ‘as many people there are on this whole planet, they are all my family members.’

Of course that means the that they feel that not only humans but other living entities such as animals and birds and all living beings and a part of their family. Vasudhaiwa means the earth and ‘so all the living beings of this earth planet are my family. This is my family and each family has a head of the family and so the head of this family is Lord Krishna or Allah.’

Allah means god is great and how to say this in one word? Allah. God is great, why not? So we say ‘Krishna’ and we say ‘Allah’ as well, but our Muslim brothers will never say ‘Krishna.’ We will say ‘Allah’ but they will never say ‘Krishna.’ This is of course their misunderstanding and Krishna means Ya karhati sa Krishna. So one who attracts everyone is Krishna and so this is the supreme Lord.

So everyone will have to accept-all Muslims and Christians and actually they do accept that the Lord is all attractive. Everyone will accept this but we will not call the all attractive Lord ‘Krishna.’ We will accept for sure that the Lord is Lord of all the foundational knowledge which this world has of religion but this has now been distorted and there are deviations.

Aside from this the world has become divided in the form of different countries and partitions and also therefore in the form of different religions. The other partition is of those who say ‘we are religious’ and those who claim ‘we are atheist.’ The other partition is ‘we are Hindu and we are Muslim!’

‘You are Hindustani’s and we are Pakistani’s! We are black and you are white people.’ If someone is a woman then someone a man. If someone is poor then someone is wealthy and we are being crushed by these dualities. Okay so your problem here is that these Hindu’s and Muslims who are actually brothers are fighting at present. We have forgotten and so we are not Krishna conscious at the moment.

We are not even Allah conscious and there is no love of god. When we are truly Allah or Krishna conscious we will embrace one another. We are ignorant and have forgotten the Lord and we have forgotten each other. We are brothers and eternal friends but here in this material world we become the greatest enemies of each other and in Kali Yuga this is happening more and more.

Kali Yuga means the Yuga, the time of Kali and the two characteristics of this are one, hypocrisy which is so prominent and the other is quarrel in which there is constant fighting. These two activities are happening all over the world. So wherever you are there will be present these dualities. Krishna has said

yadrccha labha santusto
dvandvatito vimatsarah (BG 4.22)

He who is satisfied with gain which comes of its own accord, who is free from duality and does not envy, who is steady both in success and failure, is never entangled, although performing actions.

So to be free from dualities one has to rise above that duality. This means black and white and actually the world is full of dualities. Between woman and man, poor and rich, East and West, Hindu and Muslim, communism and capitalism and this and that. There are thousands of different dualities, mine and yours, countrymen and foreigners, insiders and outsiders and high class people and low class people.

So the situation you are in, wherever you may be there will be a type of duality. So you are trapped in these dualities and there are definitely problems due to this. Just like you can understand that there is communism which is there in Russian and the devotees there face so much pain and trouble due to this. They have had to go to jail and they have been arrested and beaten.

In Africa black people are being beaten up and so this discrimination is continuing in each part, each corner of this world. There is always some turmoil, some problem due to religion and problems in other places due to money or because of being black or white. Women say that ‘we are women and we want equality’ and in this way women are fighting.

So in all places to more or less degrees there is this discrimination. And the more we perform devotional service to Lord Krishna and preach devotional service in the most quarrelsome places and most difficult situations, as we are doing now, these tough situations propose to us a preaching opportunity.

The Lord becomes happy to see a devotee performing devotional service in normal conditions when they are in a happy situation and there are no political restrictions to performing that service and sadhana. So this is good and the Lord is happy to see this naturally, but devotees like yourselves in your situation which is not very favourable and you don’t have freedom, the Lord has made your circumstances a little difficult to perform devotional service so he is more happy to see you perform devotional service in your situation.

I am sure that you all have so many challenges and so you should
all stay united and be together. United we stand and divided we fall. In this way we can face any challenge just like you are doing. In doing this, please understand that you are not alone because the Lord is with you! The devotees are with you as is Shyamanand Prabhu who is always standing behind you.

Gopal Krishna Maharaja is there for you and I am here. I may not be there physically but my blessings and thoughts are always with you. All desires that we have in devotional service are there by the blessings of Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and this mission is that of Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.

ajanu-lambita bhujau kanakavadhatau
sankirtanaika pitarau kamalayataksau
visvambharau dvija varau yuga dharma palau
vande jagat priyakaro karunavatarau (Caitanya bhagavata 1.1.1)

I offer my respects unto Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Sri Nityananda Prabhu, whose arms extend down to Their knees, who have golden yellow complexions, and who inaugurated the congregational chanting of the Holy Names. Their eyes resemble the petals of a lotus; They are the maintainers of all living entities; They are the best of brahmanas, the protectors of religious principles for this age, the benefactors of the universe, and the most merciful of all incarnations.

This Karuna Avatar, merciful incarnation is Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and sankirtanaika pitarau, the founding fathers of the Sankirtan movement are Gauranga and Nityananda Prabhu. They are the ones who are reestablishing the principles of religion. Guru Gauranga Jayataha, we say.

There is the pradarsaka guru, then siksha guru and diksha guru and then there is the Chaitya Guru which is Krishna in your heart. So in this way they all support you and are with you and the situation you are currently in over here at the moment is the same situation they previously had in Mayapur and Navadwipa, Bengal. The Muslims had reached over there and they are there even now and that is where Chand Kazi was also.

When Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s kirtan party would start Sankirtan over there –

udilo aruna puraba bhage?
dwija mani gora amani jage,?
bhakata samuha loiya sathe,?
gela nagara braje (Arunodaya Kirtana 1)

When the rising sun appeared in the East, the jewel of the twice-born, Lord Gaurasundara, awakened, and, taking His devotees with Him, He went all over the countryside towns and villages

When the Lord at sunrise would take many devotees with him and would come out,

‘tathai tathai bajalo khol,?ghana ghana tahe jhajera rol

The mrdangas (khol) resounded “tathai, tathai,” and the jhanjha (large metal karatalas that look like small cymbals) in that kirtana played in time

mukunda madhava yadava hari,?bolena bolo re vadana bhori

All the devotees chanted the names Mukunda, Madhava, Yadava and Hari, their mouths being filled with the vibrations.

The devotees are singing mukunda madhava yadava hari and they are chanting

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare

Just as they were chanting like this the agents of Chand Kazi came and stopped the kirtan, broke the Mrdangas and they had no problem in breaking the devotees’ bones. This is right there at the time of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. Not only this but if you see the history of this and what was happening five hundred years back in Bengal, in Navadwipa, in Mayapur you will find that despite all this, Sankirtan never stopped.

So go on chanting and go on practicing Krishna consciousness and carry on celebrating the festivals like Jagannatha Rathayatra Mahotsava and Janmastami. So you know very well, what a state those bad, sinful people made of Haridas Thakur. They dragged Haridas Thakur through twenty two market places.

But he told them that ‘you can break my body into pieces but I will keep chanting the holy name wholly and fully.’ And indeed he did just this and he did not leave the chanting of the holy name. So once Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu gave a special darshan to the residents of Mayapur, Navadwipa.

He gave darshan for twenty one hours to different devotees and it was a very special darshan in which everyone was getting different realisations of the Lord. So when the Lord met Haridas Thakur at this time, Haridas Thakur noticed that on the Lord’s back there were many marks and indents of being hit by a stick.

So Namacarya Haridas Thakur asked the Lord, ‘what is this? What kind of marks are these?’ So Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu answered, ‘do you remember when the agents of Chand Kazi were beating you mercilessly? I could not tolerate this and so I took all that beating on my back.’

So in this way the Lord helps his devotee. He promises to always protect his devotee and the Lord is true to his promise. So go on practicing and preaching, the Lord is with you and so are the Vaisnavas. Also expand your preaching and stay in each other’s association and come together for Sat Sanga, stay in touch.

dadati pratigrihnati
guhyam akhyati pricchati
bhunkte bhojayate caiva
shad vidham priti lakshanam (Upadesamrita 4)

Offering gifts in charity, accepting charitable gifts, revealing one’s mind in confidence, inquiring confidentially, accepting prasadam and offering prasadam are the six symptoms of love shared by one devotee and another.

Rupa Goswami Prabhupada has said ‘dadati pratigrihnati’ offer gifts in charity and accept gifts. And if there is anything a devotee has on his mind then he should reveal his mind and you can help them. You can also be that devotee who needs to reveal their mind and in this way you can take help.

guhyam akhyati pricchati, if there is something close to or pleasing to the heart or something confidential you may inquire about it confidentially, guhyam akhyati pricchati – inquire and reveal your mind. Bhunkte bhojayate caiva, feed Prashad and take Prashad yourselves. Not just that you go to others’ homes to take Prashad yourselves.

You can also call those Vaisnavas to your homes and you can offer them Prashad and by taking Prashad together and performing devotional service together, doing Kirtan together and having Sanga’s together and giving Prashad, by doing all these things our relationship with each other will become stronger, solid relationships.

And this is what is needed and then when you come together you will be able to do many more amazing, magical things. In the jungle if a buffalo is attacked by a tiger, if it is alone then it will be a little difficult for the buffalo but one more buffalo comes and then another. When three or four buffaloes come then even the tiger will run away.

It’s the same thing with us so you all to have to be united and be together to support one another and to have common vision. The goal is obviously the same, to attain the lotus feet of Lord Krishna and to serve the Lord’s lotus feet. Do this in support of one another and expand the preaching. At least those who are Hindu, you can bring them back to the path of Krishna consciousness.

They are Hindu by birth and by their Karma and activities only, but this is not the way to attain devotional service so engage these people and attach them to the activities of Iskcon and to the movement. Because we are talking about Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu I will say that he had said before he departed that he was the only gardener.

‘How many fruits can I pluck alone and being all alone how many fruits can I gather? How many can I distribute alone?’ So Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is saying ‘distributers wanted! Come and take the fruits of Krishna Prem.’ just like you would fill baskets with fruits in the same way come and fill your book bags with books and go out and distribute them!

Otherwise fill your baskets with prashad and distribute it! ‘How much can I distribute alone?! You all come and bring more. Distribute this all!’ So this is Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu ki jai! This is his movement and his order. So this is how he is thinking and this is his strategy.

This is the strategy that Srila Prabhupada has implemented throughout the whole world. So the world has made this distinction that ‘these are people from Hindustan and these are from Pakistan.’ This is all that has been done now but at one time the whole earth was under one banner called ‘Bharat.’

The emperors were those such as Raja Parikshit and King Yudhushtira and grandfather Bhishma. Their kingdom was Hastinapura, the headquarters of the whole world, Bharat, but it became partitioned slowly more and more and now we have a UNO in New York, United Nation of organisations.

Whenever Prabhupada would go to New York and pass this UNO building in the car- he was not driving the car himself but when he would pass in the car he would say ‘hey! One more flag and another one! What kind of United Nations is this?! It is the disunited nations!’ At one time there was just one flag, one Bharat and everybody was under that one nation, and mthey were known as Bharatiyas.

Every human being and every citizen was from the same one country and Bharat was the name of that country of which we all belonged. But in this Kali Yuga the policy is that of divide and rule and so the time factor is dividing the people under different banners, countries and under different religions, different this and different that.

So before sixty, seventy years ago India and Pakistan were one country and it could be that at that time the people of Afghanistan must have been saying ‘oh those people who are on the other side of the river Sindhu.’ Do you know the river Sindhu?

gange ca yamune caiva godavari sarasvati
narmade sindhu kaaveri jale asmin sannidhim kuru

Oh Holy Rivers Ganga and Yamuna, and also Godavari and Saraswati,
Oh Holy Rivers Narmada, Sindhu and Kaveri; Please be Present in this Water (and make it holy).

So the seven most pure rivers in Bharata Varsa are remembered even today and amongst them is Sindhu Maiya ki jai! So there is Ganaga Maiya and Sindhu river where the kingdom of Sindh is where Gandhar was. Where Gandhari was from and in Mahabharata there is description of this. So everything was under one flag and then we all divided it and split it all up.

Just like when the children of the family are small and all living together but when they become older what happens? They become separated and then they stop meeting one another. They do not even look upon each others’ faces. Once a man asked his friend, ‘do you ever meet your brother of not?’

The friend answered ‘yes, sometimes we meet. Whenever we have a court case to attend or a settlement we see each other there’ (laughter). Do you all understand? Those who used to meet at their home and play in the garden and embrace each other, without whom life became difficult to live and therefore they used to be together and live together always. And now, ‘yes, we meet.’

‘Where do you meet?’ ‘In court.’ So this is Kali Yuga. So wherever you may be in this situation, just expand your preaching

yare dekha, tare kaha ‘krsna’ upadesa (CC Madhya lila 07.128)

Instruct everyone to follow the orders of Lord Sri Krsna

Preach to as many people as you can. I keep getting reports of rathayatra in Karachi and in Pakistan and here and there. This news is then printed in Indian newspapers and with great pride the Indians read this and talk of this to others. ‘There was Jagannatha Rathayatra in Pakistan! In Pakistan this and in Pakistan that.’

So think and see how you can use ideas and leadership management to preach in this way. The leaders and organisers there like Shyamanand Krishna, you are a zonal supervisor or something, yes? So there are these managers of the temples and you must have so many festival committees.

I’m not sure but do you organise Padayatra or not? Actually this is a different thing. Bangladesh at one point was the same as Pakistan. There was West Pakistan and East Pakistan and Bangladesh was East Pakistan but Bangladesh was the popular part of Pakistan which has now become Bangladesh.

And actually there is so much Iskcon preaching in Bangladesh, have you heard or read about this or not? So there are thousands of devotees there and I myself have gone many times there and when there was rathayatra in Dhaka I attended. This was five, ten years ago and I saw that there were so many followers of Iskcon, Gaudiya Vaishnavism.

There were so many people in that rathayatra of a Muslim country-Bangladesh, Dhaka and as you may or may not know, I travel the whole world and I perform so many padayatra’s and am a part of so many rathayatra’s but the rathayatra I saw in Bangladesh, in Dhaka, I have not seen anywhere else outside India.

In India in Jagannatha Puri and Calcutta many people come together and my experience was that there were so many people in Dhaka also that the police who were all Muslims were controlling the crowd. There is also Padayatra happening there and I think we have over one hundred centres over there with many Namahatta’s in Bangladesh.

There is so much youth preaching and festival celebrations with book distribution happening and this was where the popular part of Pakistan, Bangladesh is. There is so much preaching over there and maybe this much preaching is not happening even in West Bengal. In India, as much Iskcon preaching as there isn’t even in West Bengal there is in India’s East Bengal, in Bangladesh.

So in this way you can see how you can take inspiration from all this and from these devotees. At one time they were also part of Pakistan and you are also Pakistani’s here. Actually you are all Vaikuntha Vasi’s, residents of Vaikuntha, not Pakistani’s and you know that the spirit soul has no connection with Pakistan or Baluchistan or Afghanistan.

But as I was saying that the people of Afghanistan may have been saying previously, ‘do you know those people, those on the other side of the river Sindhu? They are in Hindustan.’ So where they were pointing towards, the people of Afghanistan, that was also Pakistan because that was a part of Hindustan at the time. And Nepal was there as well as Lanka and Burma, all a part of Hindustan.

So get a little organised and increase your preaching online. Due to the coronavirus, all travelling and preaching has stopped and I am in Pandharpura for the last one and a half years. In my whole life I have never been in one place for such a long time and actually just maximum three days I have stayed in one place since taking Sannyasa.

Then next, next, next. So I have been stopped here and not only me but the whole world has stopped and there’s no movement. But along with this a good thing has happened and the government is also encouraging this working from home. So there is no need to go to office from home and we can stay there and so all your office work you do at home.

E-commerce and E-that and online this and online that but this was all happening. Now at least in India they are slowly opening things up again and so there was a demand in India. ‘We want wine! We want wine! What kind of life is it without alcohol?’

So what is the first thing that the Indian government did? They opened all the liquor shops. The thing which is most needed, the most essential thing, if we start contemplating on all such essential things then the first thing will be the liquor shops. So everything is happening online and the whole world is online so along with the world the Hare Krishna people are doing their preaching work online.

Just like you can see with Shyamanand Krishna and everybody else, we are in business right now, we are in business. Our preaching is happening although there is a lockdown. So as much as I have been stuck here now in Pandharpura, I have never stayed anywhere else before but as much preaching I have done in the previous one and half years or two years, I have never done before.

At the moment I am preaching here in Pakistan and in the afternoon I will be addressing another country at addressing another temple, another state in India and there are different meetings also. Today we have a meeting of Indian bureau in the evening but there is nowhere to come and go. We are stationed in one place and the social media such as zoom is the medium through which we can reach very far.

So at one time we were saying that the whole world has become one global village and that this internet has made the whole earth one village. Just like how we can easily go from one village to another and talk with the villagers there, in the same way we can do that now and we are doing that through the internet. So in the same way all you followers and organisers of Iskcon Pakistan use this internet as a medium and increase your preaching, communication and community.

You can even use Amazon to increase book distribution and in this way, preach. Ram Yagna Prabhu was saying to me that nobody comes to Pakistan to preach. Sarvabhauma Prabhu used to come but now since three, four years he hasn’t come.

Shyamanand Krishna who I was speaking about comes for half the year. So I was thinking that online Sanga and addresses or whatever else we can do, take advantage of this and you can invite senior devotees from all over the world and all over India who can address you all and you can have Sat-Sanga.

This could happen and by this happening you will get more inspiration and knowledge as well as devotion through preaching. Then you can preach more and this will definitely happen if you have more interaction with senior devotees from different parts of the world and from India.

Okay so like that keep performing kirtan

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna
Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama
Rama Rama Hare Hare

Chant your prescribed number of sixteen rounds daily with attention and follow the four regulative principles strictly. What else will you do? Read Srila Prabhupada’s books and distribute Prabhupada’s books. Honour Prashad, distribute prashad and go to Iskcon temples. First you make your own homes a temple and in this way reside in Vaikuntha.

There must be an altar and I am sure that you have one and Tulsi Maharani can be placed there. Can you also keep a cow, yes? Do you keep a dog? You can keep a dog but you cannot keep a cow, this is the problem (laughter). So give your full support to Iskcon, to Iskcon means give support to the supreme Lord and his service.

So whatever is happening, this Harinama is happening in the whole of Pakistan, this is the prediction of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.

prithvite ache yata nagaradi grama sarvatra prachara haibe mora nama.

In as many towns and villages as there are on the surface of the earth my holy name will be preached.

So just as Mahaprabhu said, this is happening and will continued to happen. This Harinama preaching will spread and it will expand. It seems very difficult, ‘how is it possible? What?! In Pakistan and in Russia?’ Why not? Mahaprabhu has said ‘sarvatra prachara haibe mora nama’ and so this will definitely happen.

So there is no doubt about it. So I should stop now? Okay I can take some questions.

So wherever there is a temple you can have a Sunday school for the children like a Prahlad school and just like I said, make your homes a temple and the parents can put that example before their children. So by seeing this the children will become good-mannered and good children.

Prabhupada used to tell us that when he was a child he used to be sleeping and his father Gaur Mohan De would perform mangal arati and there would be the sound of ringing the bell and blowing of conch. So with these sounds small Abhay would awake and he would listen to mangal arati and watch the arati. So from his childhood Abhay had this spiritual training.

So you can do something like this maybe in the future when circumstances become favourable. You can run a farmhouse or something and have a farm community. There you can have Gurukula and Goshala. I don’t know if you have anyone here who can organise this or not. So you can think about this okay? Next question.

So you have worries that when we go to Vaikuntha will you have small children or not? Will you have your wife or not? ‘If this is the case then I will not go to Vaikuntha!’ You do not have worries like this, I hope? Okay so over there our soul is the one residing there in the spiritual world and the soul has a form and the soul has a name and a certain duty to fulfill.

The soul is a personality and it is not just a lump of mud , no the soul is
solid and has a form. So when we get liberated and we reach Vaikuntha or Goloka, whatever paintings we see of the Lord with his friends in the spiritual world, we see the devotees in the paintings, all these are the pure spirit souls, not the body.

There is no material body there, just spirit which is the body. The material body of five elements stays here and finishes here and the pure spiritual body is left which is the spirit soul and that spirit soul is what the Lord brings back to Vaikuntha loka and the soul stays there. Each spirit soul has a relationship with the Lord and each has a different Rasa, mellow with the Lord.

There are Santa rasa, Dasya rasa, Sakya rasa, Vatsalya rasa and Madhurya rasa which are the five prominent mellows and Rasa’s and then there are seven indirect Rasa’s. So all these different mellows have different flavours and that’s why they are called Rasa’s (juice). So each and every living entity has a relationship in a certain Rasa with the Lord.

In this way each Jiva stays with the Lord and the Lord plays with a particular devotee in a certain mellow or Rasa. In pastimes the Lord also needs the devotee, right? So along with the soul there is the supersoul, the supreme Lord and the Lord enjoys his pastimes in the spiritual world with his devotees. Over there all the relationships exist and there are the families of all the Jiva’s.


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